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eccos December 29th 03 05:53 PM


"Crazy George" wrote in message
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| Ummmm, it would help if you were a little more careful with your
| phraseology.

You are right. Sorry.

| The connections go: Dish - DSS box - TV, right?

Correct.

| Below, you write:
| "I simply unplug the receiving cable from the dish to the tv,"
| Which leaves out a relatively significant component. While all those
cable
| connectors are interchangeable, connecting the right cable to the right
box
| makes a difference, as you have observed.
|
| Which DSS (what you call "dish") do you have?

Dish Network



| What are the cable connectors on the rear labeled? Do you have the manual
for it?

No, I don't have a manual.

On the rear of the TV? There is only one connector, and it's labeled
ANTENNA, and to which a cable is connected that comes from the DDS receiver.
That connector on the rear of the receiver is labeled TV SET OUT. Let's
call this "scenario 1", where I switch my TV set to Channel 3, and from
there I can select the various programming available.

[I am a little afraid I am not explaining this properly, again. Please bear
with me.]

Now, the problem occurs when I connect a cable from the DDS receiver
(connector labeled TV ANTENNA/CABLE IN) to the TV (connector labeled
ANTENNA). I use a splitter to accommodate that makes the two connections I
just described. Let's call this "scenario 2," where I can view DDS
programming on Channel 3, or local TV station on other channels, say, 12,
18, 58, etc. Well, when I swith to these "other" channels, the reception is
poor. The reception improves dramatically if I remove the DDS connection to
the TV set, and connect to it a cheap indoor antenna.

Wheew. Does this make sense?

[You know, now that I just got done explaining this, I think I know what the
problem may be. In "scenario 1" I have no antenna help whatsoever. Whereas
in "scenario 2," however cheap, I have some antenna, and for this reason the
reception is better. Duh! If my assumption is correct, then the question
is how to add an indoor antenna to "scenario 1."]




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| Crazy George
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| "eccos" wrote in message
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| " Uncle Peter" wrote in message
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| | Your are powering off the satellite receiver when attempting to
| | receive local channels, right?
|
| No, I usually don't. I simply unplug the receiving cable from the dish
to
| the tv, and plug the cable of the indoor antenna.
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Richard Clark December 29th 03 06:17 PM

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:53:32 GMT, "eccos" wrote:

In "scenario 1" I have no antenna help whatsoever. Whereas
in "scenario 2," however cheap, I have some antenna, and for this reason the
reception is better. Duh! If my assumption is correct, then the question
is how to add an indoor antenna to "scenario 1."]


Hi OM,

Successful engineering consists of explaining the problem correctly
(because it is also the answer).

Connect your cheap antenna to the DSS connector labeled TV
ANTENNA/CABLE IN (which is an input, you were using it as an output)
and when you turn off the DSS, it should allow cable or antenna
signals through to be tuned by your TV. This means that the DSS acts
as the splitter you are trying to add to this problem.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

eccos December 29th 03 07:21 PM

| Hi OM,
|
| Successful engineering consists of explaining the problem correctly
| (because it is also the answer).

Are you saying that I WAS able to get my point across (albeit somewhat
roughly)?
|
| Connect your cheap antenna to the DSS connector labeled TV
| ANTENNA/CABLE IN (which is an input, you were using it as an output)
| and when you turn off the DSS, it should allow cable or antenna
| signals through to be tuned by your TV. This means that the DSS acts
| as the splitter you are trying to add to this problem.

Thanks. Why didn't I think of that?

|
| 73's
| Richard Clark, KB7QHC



eccos December 30th 03 02:52 PM


"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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| On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:53:32 GMT, "eccos" wrote:
|
| In "scenario 1" I have no antenna help whatsoever. Whereas
| in "scenario 2," however cheap, I have some antenna, and for this reason
the
| reception is better. Duh! If my assumption is correct, then the
question
| is how to add an indoor antenna to "scenario 1."]
|
| Hi OM,
|
| Successful engineering consists of explaining the problem correctly
| (because it is also the answer).
|
| Connect your cheap antenna to the DSS connector labeled TV
| ANTENNA/CABLE IN (which is an input, you were using it as an output)
| and when you turn off the DSS, it should allow cable or antenna
| signals through to be tuned by your TV. This means that the DSS acts
| as the splitter you are trying to add to this problem.
|
| 73's
| Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard,
I tried your suggestion, and I get damn near perfect reception. Wow!
Thanks again.



Richard Clark December 30th 03 03:43 PM

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 14:52:09 GMT, "eccos" wrote:


Richard,
I tried your suggestion, and I get damn near perfect reception. Wow!
Thanks again.


Hi OM,

Give yourself more credit. Like I said, the answer is usually in the
question when you put your mind to it. You were already on the trail.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

eccos December 30th 03 11:27 PM


"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
| On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 14:52:09 GMT, "eccos" wrote:
|
|
| Richard,
| I tried your suggestion, and I get damn near perfect reception. Wow!
| Thanks again.
|
|
| Hi OM,
|
| Give yourself more credit. Like I said, the answer is usually in the
| question when you put your mind to it. You were already on the trail.
|
| 73's
| Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Forgive the ignorance, but what's OM?



Roger Gt December 31st 03 12:34 AM


"eccos" wrote in message
y.com...

"Richard Clark" wrote in message
...
| On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 14:52:09 GMT, "eccos" wrote:
|
| Richard,
| I tried your suggestion, and I get damn near perfect reception. Wow!
| Thanks again.
|
| Hi OM,
|
| Give yourself more credit. Like I said, the answer is usually in the
| question when you put your mind to it. You were already on the trail.
| 73's
| Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Forgive the ignorance, but what's OM?



Ham Speak! "Old Man" an title of respect!



eccos December 31st 03 08:20 AM


wrote in message
...
| On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 00:34:44 GMT, "Roger Gt"
| wrote:
|
|
| "eccos" wrote in message
| gy.com...
|
| "Richard Clark" wrote in message
| ...
| | On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 14:52:09 GMT, "eccos" wrote:
| |
| | Richard,
| | I tried your suggestion, and I get damn near perfect reception.
Wow!
| | Thanks again.
| |
| | Hi OM,
| |
| | Give yourself more credit. Like I said, the answer is usually in the
| | question when you put your mind to it. You were already on the
trail.
| | 73's
| | Richard Clark, KB7QHC
|
| Forgive the ignorance, but what's OM?
|
|
| Ham Speak! "Old Man" an title of respect!
|
|
| Also a merchant marine abbreviation for a ship's Master.

My kids call me "old fart." So this is a tremendous improvement.




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