Did a lot of Elmering too, but that's what ham radio is about. Also glad
that we weren't outnumbered by appliance operators. With them, when a
computer goes down it's like the end of the world.

sc

Slow Code wrote:
Did a lot of Elmering too, but that's what ham radio is about.
nah you can't nobody could learn much with manner

an old friend wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
Did a lot of Elmering too, but that's what ham radio is about.
nah you can't nobody could learn much with manner
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You sure didn't learn English, retard.

I know what you mean about Elmering. Many of the new hams had to Elmer
the old CW only hams who had no idea how to operate a computer or even
use all the great new digital modes. Some of the dinos had trouble
trying to figure out the solid state rigs. They kept looking around for
things to tune like it was some boat anchor tube rig - LOL!!!

It's amazing how the dinos can operate a key, but they can't get the
hang of a mouse. We eventually had to give up. Can't teach the old dogs
new tricks so the younger and newer hams used the digital modes and the
old dinos stuck to their CW.

Although the CW types were amazed how PSK31 could be copied even when
you could not hear the other station. They admitted that you can't copy
CW if you cannot hear it.

I think we made a lot of progress on FD. Finally the dinos admitted that
there are modes that are better and more capable than CW.

One old guy even said we should give up on the CW testing and test new
hams how to use a computer and the new digital modes and that was more
relevant for today's ham radio.

Slow Code wrote:
Did a lot of Elmering too, but that's what ham radio is about. Also glad
that we weren't outnumbered by appliance operators. With them, when a
computer goes down it's like the end of the world.

sc

Not a very good attempt at trolling. I know absolutely no one like the
people you describe.

"J. D. B." wrote in message
...
I know what you mean about Elmering. Many of the new hams had to Elmer the
old CW only hams who had no idea how to operate a computer or even use all
the great new digital modes. Some of the dinos had trouble trying to
figure out the solid state rigs. They kept looking around for things to
tune like it was some boat anchor tube rig - LOL!!!


Everyone operated solid state and semi-solid state rigs with no problems.
All knew how to operate the computers.


It's amazing how the dinos can operate a key, but they can't get the hang
of a mouse. We eventually had to give up. Can't teach the old dogs new
tricks so the younger and newer hams used the digital modes and the old
dinos stuck to their CW.


Not at our site. It's the older hams that have the expertise in connecting
the computers to the radios.

Although the CW types were amazed how PSK31 could be copied even when you
could not hear the other station. They admitted that you can't copy CW if
you cannot hear it.

I think we made a lot of progress on FD. Finally the dinos admitted that
there are modes that are better and more capable than CW.


Any really experienced ham knows that each and every mode has conditions
under which it is "the best". Ever try to work PSK when the auroras are
running wild? Digital won't get through but CW will and occasionally even
voice will get through even though all the digital modes fail.

You must have a very weird club.

One old guy even said we should give up on the CW testing and test new
hams how to use a computer and the new digital modes and that was more
relevant for today's ham radio.


I doubt it. Computers are nice (I use one all the time) but they are not
one of the basics.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"J. D. B." wrote in
:

I know what you mean about Elmering. Many of the new hams had to Elmer
the old CW only hams who had no idea how to operate a computer or even
use all the great new digital modes. Some of the dinos had trouble
trying to figure out the solid state rigs. They kept looking around for
things to tune like it was some boat anchor tube rig - LOL!!!

It's amazing how the dinos can operate a key, but they can't get the
hang of a mouse. We eventually had to give up. Can't teach the old dogs
new tricks so the younger and newer hams used the digital modes and the
old dinos stuck to their CW.

Although the CW types were amazed how PSK31 could be copied even when
you could not hear the other station. They admitted that you can't copy
CW if you cannot hear it.

I think we made a lot of progress on FD. Finally the dinos admitted that
there are modes that are better and more capable than CW.

One old guy even said we should give up on the CW testing and test new
hams how to use a computer and the new digital modes and that was more
relevant for today's ham radio.


I know you're right.

They where doing great until the computers crashed then the new hams
looked at us old hams, blank stares on their faces wondering what to do.
They thought Field day was over at the point. Then us dino's took over
and showed them what ham radio really was. Some nickle extra's even said
they were going practice building their code skills again. They saw you
can work stations on code that you can't work on phone or PSK31. We
taught them how to solder on PL-259s and tune portable antenna & trim wire
antennas.

We laughed when they lifted up the tri-bander and then had to take it down
again to connect up the coax. That was funny.

SC

Wow, you guys must have been part of the most ignorant group of
individuals ever put on this earth using the most crappy computers and
equipment. All the computers crashed? Wow, how could that have happened?

I am surprised that the newbies are still using ham radio after hanging
around with you dinos. Computers broke down and you could not help fix
them. That's right, the computers don't run on tubes and that is the
extent of your knowledge as dinos.

Now anyone that uses PSK knows that you can work a station that you
cannot hear with the human ear. Anyone that knows CW knows that you
have to hear CW in order to copy it. So as a dino, you are showing your
ignorance of technology and probably have never heard, seen or used PSK
or you would never have made that statement.

My Field Day group had a good laugh when I pointed out your message to
them. They said you obviously don't know what you are talking about -
at least concerning anything modern.

So you old, used up, worthless dinos laughed at the newbies, belittled
them, and you could not fix or use anything modern. And you think those
newbies are going to stick with ham radio? Probably not. Old thinking
buggy whip hams like yourself need to stay locked in your shacks talking
only with other dinos about your illnesses and the like, and stay away
from the younger technology savy crowd as they might be really
interested in ham radio and your old crap is going to scare them away.

They don't want to learn about buggy whips when they are interested in
driving a modern car - get it old timer?

Slow Code wrote:


I know you're right.

They where doing great until the computers crashed then the new hams
looked at us old hams, blank stares on their faces wondering what to do.
They thought Field day was over at the point. Then us dino's took over
and showed them what ham radio really was. Some nickle extra's even said
they were going practice building their code skills again. They saw you
can work stations on code that you can't work on phone or PSK31. We
taught them how to solder on PL-259s and tune portable antenna & trim wire
antennas.

We laughed when they lifted up the tri-bander and then had to take it down
again to connect up the coax. That was funny.

SC

"J. D. B." wrote in
:

Wow, you guys must have been part of the most ignorant group of
individuals ever put on this earth using the most crappy computers and
equipment. All the computers crashed? Wow, how could that have
happened?

I am surprised that the newbies are still using ham radio after hanging
around with you dinos. Computers broke down and you could not help fix
them. That's right, the computers don't run on tubes and that is the
extent of your knowledge as dinos.

Now anyone that uses PSK knows that you can work a station that you
cannot hear with the human ear. Anyone that knows CW knows that you
have to hear CW in order to copy it. So as a dino, you are showing your
ignorance of technology and probably have never heard, seen or used PSK
or you would never have made that statement.

My Field Day group had a good laugh when I pointed out your message to
them. They said you obviously don't know what you are talking about -
at least concerning anything modern.

So you old, used up, worthless dinos laughed at the newbies, belittled
them, and you could not fix or use anything modern. And you think those
newbies are going to stick with ham radio? Probably not. Old thinking
buggy whip hams like yourself need to stay locked in your shacks talking
only with other dinos about your illnesses and the like, and stay away
from the younger technology savy crowd as they might be really
interested in ham radio and your old crap is going to scare them away.

They don't want to learn about buggy whips when they are interested in
driving a modern car - get it old timer?



I know you're right.

These new modernized hams want everything to be easy just like flipping
the on-off switch on an appliance. We try and tell them that ham radio is
more than just operating an appliance, but they won't listen. Then when
murphy's law kicks in they don't know how to deal with it. I feel sorry
for them, but it's really not their fault that licensing has been dumbed
down over the years. The phonies did notice after we put the broken
computers in the dumpster that the bands sounded much better without all
the computer generated noise on their receivers. And their contacts per
minute increased. They realize now that when equipment fails it's nice to
have skills you can fall back on that will let you keep communicating.
Especially important during emergencies. Hams wouldn't look good if
during an emergency we couldn't communicate.


SC

Slow Code, I think it is time you put up or shut up. If the skills among
you dinos were so great, then you had to finish at the top of your
category. So tell us now, what group were you part of, what section,
and what category did you compete in?

Then, when the results are published, we will compare your standings
with those other groups who had the modern, technically trained operators.

We'll see if the dinos are extinct or if modern humans have triumphed.

Slow Code wrote:


I know you're right.

These new modernized hams want everything to be easy just like flipping
the on-off switch on an appliance. We try and tell them that ham radio is
more than just operating an appliance, but they won't listen. Then when
murphy's law kicks in they don't know how to deal with it. I feel sorry
for them, but it's really not their fault that licensing has been dumbed
down over the years. The phonies did notice after we put the broken
computers in the dumpster that the bands sounded much better without all
the computer generated noise on their receivers. And their contacts per
minute increased. They realize now that when equipment fails it's nice to
have skills you can fall back on that will let you keep communicating.
Especially important during emergencies. Hams wouldn't look good if
during an emergency we couldn't communicate.


SC

Slow Code wrote:
Hams wouldn't look good if
during an emergency we couldn't communicate.

So exactly how do hams communicate with failed
equipment?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp