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Rick July 20th 06 07:15 PM

Morse Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and- Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?
 
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:14:13 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
If you can copy CW, you can copy CW.


I can copy CW, but I cannot copy CW when the receiver
is in AM mode and there's no CW tone. I'm glad you're
that good but I am not.
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp




Hey Cecil,
Would you do me a favor, please.
Note this thread has been being crossposted to all of these
newsgroups,

rec.radio.amateur.antenna,
rec.radio.amateur.policy
rec.radio.scanner,
rec.radio.swap
,rec.radio.shortwave

I don't know which one you are reading and posting to it from, but I
assume the antenna newsgroup. I am onlt posting this to the antenna
group.

This topic really only belongs in the policy newsgroup, so would you
please edit your replies and delete out all of the other newsgroups
where this topic is not relevant?

Then the subject will either die out, or it will be propagated over in
a newsgroup where people care about something rather than antennas.
For me, I wish crossposting was not possible....... why do we have
separate newsgroups?

Thanks very much, keep up the great antenna postings,

Rick K2XT

Telamon July 20th 06 08:16 PM

Morse Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and- Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?
 
In article ,
Cecil Moore wrote:

Al Klein wrote:
You can hear the change in noise as a carrier goes on and off. It's
extremely difficult to copy high speed CW like that if the signal is
strong, but a weak signal or slower CW is just as easy to copy as
noise as it is to copy as a pure tone. T1 doesn't mean uncopyable, it
just means ragged tone.


So now amateurs and SWL's should be Morse code proficient
not only using tones but using the swishing sound made when
a BFO is not present?


The swishing sound is coming from aliens. Try making the same sounds
back to them. You might get a more intelligent conversation going than
the one in this cross posted thread.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Dee Flint July 20th 06 10:04 PM

Morse Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and- Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?
 

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
et...
Al Klein wrote:
If you can copy CW, you can copy CW.


I can copy CW, but I cannot copy CW when the receiver
is in AM mode and there's no CW tone. I'm glad you're
that good but I am not.
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


I am not good at code but I can do it. You just listen to the rhythm.

Dee, N8UZE



an old freind July 20th 06 10:11 PM

Morse Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and- Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?
 

Dee Flint wrote:

I am not good at code but I can do it. You just listen to the rhythm.

your point ? if any Dee

Dee, N8UZE



RHF July 20th 06 11:12 PM

Why Should Only White Males "Know" CW ? ? ? - Women and Minorities Need CW Too ! ! !
 

Cecil Moore wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
You can hear the change in noise as a carrier goes on and off. It's
extremely difficult to copy high speed CW like that if the signal is
strong, but a weak signal or slower CW is just as easy to copy as
noise as it is to copy as a pure tone. T1 doesn't mean uncopyable, it
just means ragged tone.


So now amateurs and SWL's should be Morse code proficient
not only using tones but using the swishing sound made when
a BFO is not present?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


CM,

OK - Lets make "CW" 5 WPM a High School Graduation Requirement
and Start the Nation-Wide Testing of Every Child at Every Grade Level
to Ensure that Our Kids Know "CW" ! ! !

We can call it the Uniform Education "Code" {CW} Law -and-
Require that No Child Is Left Behind the "CW" Learning Curve !

Why should only White Males 'know' CW ? ? ?
Equality Demands that Women and Minorities "Know" CW Too ! ! !
- - - We need an Urgent National Federally Funded Program
to Close the "CW" Gap [.]

oops - am i ranting ? ? ? . . . oh never mind ! ~ RHF

[email protected] July 20th 06 11:38 PM

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

Dirk wrote:

Ham's care more about operating appliances than knowing how to save a lives.

:-(


This ham know CPR.

I wonder how many a retired old-timer who decided to join ham radio
stroked out instead while doing speed runs trying to get to 13/20wpm on
CW?

CW kills.


Slow Code July 21st 06 12:23 AM

Morse Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and- Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?
 
Cecil Moore wrote in
.net:

Slow Code wrote:
SWL's should learn CW too.
You never know when you might stumple across a station in distress
sending an SOS and you might be the only one that hears it and can get
help.


SWL's normally listen to AM stations.
How would they hear a CW station?



Many SWL's are Ute listeners. They are the ones most likely to stumble
across an SOS.

Just like a person isn't a real ham unless they've passed a code test, a
shortwave listener isn't a real SWL unless their receiver has a BFO.

(SWL's who listen to shortwave with antique receivers are exempt.)

SC



Cecil Moore July 21st 06 12:31 AM

Morse Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and-Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?
 
Dee Flint wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote:
I can copy CW, but I cannot copy CW when the receiver
is in AM mode and there's no CW tone. I'm glad you're
that good but I am not.


I am not good at code but I can do it. You just listen to the rhythm.


How does a deaf person do that?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

clfe July 21st 06 12:41 AM

Morse Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and- Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?
 
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
.com...
Dee Flint wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote:
I can copy CW, but I cannot copy CW when the receiver
is in AM mode and there's no CW tone. I'm glad you're
that good but I am not.


I am not good at code but I can do it. You just listen to the rhythm.


How does a deaf person do that?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp


Using a series of flashes of light OR vibrations...........



Al Klein July 21st 06 02:39 AM

Morse Code -plus- Continuous Wave (CW) Radio Transmission -and- Semaphore Signals ? Do They Defining Amateur Radio ?
 
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:31:02 GMT, Cecil Moore
wrote:

How does a deaf person do that?


How does a blind person read the computer screen?


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