If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 

jawod wrote:
If MENSA membership is important to you, fine. Most of us find it a bit
pretentious and downright silly.

Ditto for the Morse code testing requirement.
That was the whole point.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
om...
Truth is, I got into MENSA because someone lost a bet and
paid for my exam and dues. I am not presently a member of
MENSA because the yearly dues exceed my threshold of pain.
But I am a member of OOTC and FISTS, #8741. :-)

Question (this is not a flame):.

1. Is the ability to decode Morse Code transmissions, in one's own wet modem
(brain), at high speed, proportional or even relevant in any possible way to
one's ability to pass a mensa test and be accepted for membership? Is mensa
membership useful? Is mensa membership a measure of Morse wet modem
throughput?

Cecil, I think you already answered all of the above as 'no'. That doesn't
mean I like the the brand of motorcycle you drive. I do not. I like BMW's
that don't require a toolkit for every 100 miles on the road.

2. Or, (as I suspect), is Morse ability only useful after you have
purchased one's HF equipment, now that one has passed the test (whose
investment you otherwise would not have made until you passed the trivial
but compulsory 5wpm test for Morse code proficiency) to have to have fun and
prevent future alien attacks?

I am an extra class op who passed 13 wpm several years ago, can do 25 wpm
now and getting better all the time just because of heavy (and fun) Morse
action on the cw sub-bands, and wanting to know what people are saying and
being able to communicate back; in fact, CW is almost as good as psk31.

3. Just the same, how much does this mensa thing cost? Is it worth a dinner
for 4?

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that persondie?
 

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
1. Is the ability to decode Morse Code transmissions, in one's own wet modem
(brain), at high speed, proportional or even relevant in any possible way to
one's ability to pass a mensa test and be accepted for membership? Is mensa
membership useful? Is mensa membership a measure of Morse wet modem
throughput?

Rusty, let me answer you this way. In my humble opinion, a MENSA
level IQ is worth magnitudes more to its possessor than is Morse
code skill even within the Amateur Radio Service. If all the coded
hams with IQ's less than 100 were transformed into nocode techs
with MENSA level IQ's, the ARS would be much better off and a lot
less prone to silliness. The ARRL might even stop publishing those
gross technical errors, e.g. reflections don't exist.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

I wish everybody here would use their MENSA and take this thread and the
other non swap related garbage out of rec.radio.swap.

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
...
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
1. Is the ability to decode Morse Code transmissions, in one's own wet
modem
(brain), at high speed, proportional or even relevant in any possible
way to
one's ability to pass a mensa test and be accepted for membership? Is
mensa
membership useful? Is mensa membership a measure of Morse wet modem
throughput?

Rusty, let me answer you this way. In my humble opinion, a MENSA
level IQ is worth magnitudes more to its possessor than is Morse
code skill even within the Amateur Radio Service. If all the coded
hams with IQ's less than 100 were transformed into nocode techs
with MENSA level IQ's, the ARS would be much better off and a lot
less prone to silliness. The ARRL might even stop publishing those
gross technical errors, e.g. reflections don't exist.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

David 01 wrote:
I wish everybody here would use their MENSA and take this thread and the
other non swap related garbage out of rec.radio.swap.
either use your ignore thread comnad if you don't have one just try not
reading it

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

David 01 wrote:
I wish everybody here would use their MENSA and take this thread and the
other non swap related garbage out of rec.radio.swap.
either use your ignore thread comnad if you don't have one just try not
reading it

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

"jawod" wrote in message ...



In the example YOU give - Cecil - it could be taken either way. In the
case of the "frequencies" you're to operate on for a given license and
band - YES - you could simply "memorize" (not really commit to memory)
those frequencies - for the exam purposes and just refer to a chart from
there in. OR you COULD "memorize" them (actually committing to memory)
for the purpose of NOT having to use a chart! However, once you use those
frequencies after a while - especially if active - then you "would" tend
to "memorize" (for life) those frequencies. Yes, it is definately
splitting hairs!

L.
that makes no sense. to memorize is to commit to memory, by definition.

RE-READ IT - there were TWO people here in the beginning "splitting hairs"
about the use of or perhaps MIS use of the word "memorization. One was
leaning towards "memorizing" "ANSWERS" purely to satisfy an exam....... i.e;
ABCD.......... it isn't quite that simple. On the other hand, the other
argument was in the "true" sense of the word - TO MEMORIZE (commit to memory
for life).

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

L. wrote:
"jawod" wrote in message ...



RE-READ IT - there were TWO people here in the beginning "splitting hairs"
about the use of or perhaps MIS use of the word "memorization. One was
leaning towards "memorizing" "ANSWERS" purely to satisfy an exam....... i.e;
ABCD.......... it isn't quite that simple. On the other hand, the other
argument was in the "true" sense of the word - TO MEMORIZE (commit to memory
for life).
what it has been about is that couple of folks want to make out that
somehow the NoCodeTechs are some how doing something altogether
different from what has been done for years

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
t...
jawod wrote:
If MENSA membership is important to you, fine. Most of us find it a bit
pretentious and downright silly.

Ditto for the Morse code testing requirement.
That was the whole point.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Let me set something straight. "I" was NOT beating my chest about "CODE". I
was only in the argument with regard to the use/misuse of the word
"Memorization". "I" think code has its place - but not as it once did. It
sure isn't keeping the bands clean by keeping it in place. "I" don't use
code - that often. I think also, it "can" be fun to learn for those who may
want to try it. Some people may - as has been proven, still - others won't -
which also has been proven. THAT IS MY stance on code. As to the
"mis"spelling of "genius", hey - what can I say - I'm human, I DO make
mistakes. I don't rely on "spell check" techniques - so ............ an
error does tend to sneak through from time to time. It doesn't matter one
iota to me if you do code or not. "I" surely am not here to pass judgement
on you or anyone else by that ability or inability (since some DO have
trouble getting it). OR lack of interest "may" be more specific. I have
quite a few people I talk to on the bands who are "NO CODE Techs. They're
not interested in the code - OR wanting to climb any higher in license
class. Its cool with me....... That is their thing - not mine. It sure
doesn't mean we can't have a decent conversation - be it on the air via
repeater, simplex, computer mode or face to face.

:)

L.

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?
 

L. wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
t...
jawod wrote:
If MENSA membership is important to you, fine. Most of us find it a bit
pretentious and downright silly.

Ditto for the Morse code testing requirement.
That was the whole point.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Let me set something straight. "I" was NOT beating my chest about "CODE
you are however enging a deabte flaming people on side of the map that
tend to get you "counter battery fire sir

face it or not as you choose