What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states,
leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is
the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United
States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with
out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from
the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though
surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also
have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use
because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs
to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a
little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non
problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated
paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide
whether he wants to bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the
South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours,
I think that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross
posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad
audience.

Paul

--
Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS
long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec
lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec
Maidenhead Locator DO33gk

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

USPS Air to South Africa takes 4 days from California. Customs is handled by
them and it is extremely easy to use. Great service.

Americocentric sellers maybe?

--
Pete . .
ZS5ACT

Top poster & proud of it!
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Paul Hinman" wrote in message
news:aLfEg.400583$Mn5.137675@pd7tw3no...
I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states,
leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is
the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States
Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any
problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the
"lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though
surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have
UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the
often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we
don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a
little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non
problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated
paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide
whether he wants to bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the
South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I
think that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross
posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad
audience.

Paul


Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings that
(even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US military
APO/FPO addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even more often
than any of the above named locations. So much for supporting the troops
as it were.-- Say no to institutionalized interference.Just say NO to
HD/IBOC!

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

Hmmm???

Hawaii is too hot?

Canada is too big?

Alaska is just right!!

But this doesn't respond to the hypothesis.

/s/ DD

Paul Hinman wrote:
I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states,
leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is
the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United
States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with
out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from
the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though
surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also
have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use
because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs
to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a
little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non
problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated
paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide
whether he wants to bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the
South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours,
I think that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross
posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad
audience.

Paul

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

Brenda Ann wrote:
Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings that
(even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US military APO/FPO
addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even more often than any of
the above named locations. So much for supporting the troops as it were.--

That's because shipping to an an APO/FPO is no longer a service provided
by the U.S. government. At one time mail to an APO/FPO was delivered to
a U.S. millitary post office that then shipped it using U.S. milltary
transport, There was a good chance that the mail would actually arrive
and it would be undamaged. Now APO/FPO mail is sent via the regular
postal system, but the U.S. government picks up the tab.

Now, the chance of the mail arriving is much less as it stands out.

As for Paul's comments, they really don't hold any water. Small sellers
don't ship outside the continental U.S. because they don't want the risk.

If an item is lost, stolen, damaged, or takes a month or two to get delivered,
they can't afford to replace it, or "eat" the loss. Paul even has more problems
because Canadian customs may hold an item to determine its value, or if it
can be legally imported as long as they wish. They can also assess the
value for sales and other taxes.

Obviously he never has had any experience clearing an item through customs.
If he had he would have praised the low fees, speedy processing and general
reliablity of the courier services.

Considering the general quality of things sold on eBay, the sellers are
actually doing you a favor. While many of the sellers will attempt to
keep you satisfied, if you have to wait a month for something to arrive
and in Paul's case pay GST (general sales tax), import duty and customs
clearing fees, then have to send it back, he would loose a lot.

Besides paying for shipping both ways, he would have to pay customs clearing
fees at the U.S. border and prove that the item he is sending back was
actually being returned to the U.S. as a defective purchase and not scamming
the customs people by claiming it was.

This means that some items both of you either have to keep or pay for
and never get no matter what it costs. Where do you draw the line?
$100, $200, $500? If it costs $100 to ship a radio to you and $100 to
send it back, it does not make much sense.


Geoff.

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"Pete" wrote in
:

USPS Air to South Africa takes 4 days from California. Customs is
handled by them and it is extremely easy to use. Great service.

Americocentric sellers maybe?

I think so. And what happens to them is that they have to sell to a buyer
who might not be willing to pay quite as much as I am. Their loss. And

I've had more trouble with "ugly American" sellers than with any other
kind. One ripped me off outright for over $300 for some software. The
other is a non-shipper of some ham radio bits that I bought. I had less
trouble buying from Greece!

One thing I do tend to do is look for the same item in my own country
(Canada) for the simple reason that it's a straight pay-and-get-it-in-the-
mail kind of deal, whereas border costs can add to a price.

--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

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What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

The only possible problem is loss or damage. USPS air delivers in a few
days and for a reasonable border fee, most of which is sales tax at this


The issue is cost, I believe.

For some reason sellers dont want to pay the cost to the last two
states, EVEN IF THE BUYER IS FRONTING THE FEES DOnt know why.

I have shipped to Hawaii several times with no issues at all other than
time.

I have had no problems with Canada, other than time. Sometimes it
takes an inordinate amount of time . But you can accept that if BOTH
parties are good communicators.

Keep in touch with your seller or buyer, dont just fail to respond. It
makes them nervous, folks.

Mark
K8VF
Michigan

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Brenda Ann wrote:


Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings that
(even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US military APO/FPO
addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even more often than any of
the above named locations. So much for supporting the troops as it were.--



That's because shipping to an an APO/FPO is no longer a service provided
by the U.S. government. At one time mail to an APO/FPO was delivered to
a U.S. millitary post office that then shipped it using U.S. milltary
transport, There was a good chance that the mail would actually arrive
and it would be undamaged. Now APO/FPO mail is sent via the regular
postal system, but the U.S. government picks up the tab.

Now, the chance of the mail arriving is much less as it stands out.

As for Paul's comments, they really don't hold any water. Small sellers
don't ship outside the continental U.S. because they don't want the risk.

If an item is lost, stolen, damaged, or takes a month or two to get delivered,
they can't afford to replace it, or "eat" the loss. Paul even has more problems
because Canadian customs may hold an item to determine its value, or if it
can be legally imported as long as they wish. They can also assess the
value for sales and other taxes.

Obviously he never has had any experience clearing an item through customs.
If he had he would have praised the low fees, speedy processing and general
reliablity of the courier services.

Considering the general quality of things sold on eBay, the sellers are
actually doing you a favor. While many of the sellers will attempt to
keep you satisfied, if you have to wait a month for something to arrive
and in Paul's case pay GST (general sales tax), import duty and customs
clearing fees, then have to send it back, he would loose a lot.

Besides paying for shipping both ways, he would have to pay customs clearing
fees at the U.S. border and prove that the item he is sending back was
actually being returned to the U.S. as a defective purchase and not scamming
the customs people by claiming it was.

This means that some items both of you either have to keep or pay for
and never get no matter what it costs. Where do you draw the line?
$100, $200, $500? If it costs $100 to ship a radio to you and $100 to
send it back, it does not make much sense.


Geoff.



I recently recieved three packages, one from the US via FEDEX GROUND,
another from the US via USPS, and another from Canada via Canada Post.
They all arrived in less than a week, and I paid no customs. There are
no customs duties for ham radio equipment.

Paul

--
Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS
long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec
lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec
Maidenhead Locator DO33gk

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Paul Hinman wrote:

I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states,
leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the
problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal
Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I
realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the
same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may
be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which
we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing
more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with
brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little
longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If
the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he
needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to
bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South
Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think
that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross
posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad
audience.

Paul

My sentiments exactly Paul. Its ridiculous we either are part of
the USA or we are'nt. Those catalogs that say "extra chipping
costs to Hawaii/Pr/Alaska etc I give them the deep six.
Joe

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:39:34 GMT, Paul Hinman
wrote:

I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states,
leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is
the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United
States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with
out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from
the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though
surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also
have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use
because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs
to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a
little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non
problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated
paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide
whether he wants to bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the
South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours,
I think that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross
posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad
audience.

Paul
\

As for canada, there is a problem with tracking. At least a couple of
years ago, the cost of tracking a package, when possible, was
horrendously high. In the case of the US mail or Fedex, it was
impossible. I shipped to canada and the buyer said he didn't get it.
He sent a very impolite letter the day I noticed all other items
shipped that day arrived. I know he received it and later admitted
that it was shipped to the wrong address, which I know better.

Not being able to track makes for a risk that I was unwilling to
handle at the time, so I cut out shipping to canada.

As for hawaii and alaska, tracking and shipping costs were terrible to
those places as well. Some items can't be shipped by air and would be
shipped by ship requiring a time delay in which, again, thieves take
advantage of and get their refund.

The combination of eBay and Paypal creates a haven for thieves in
those areas and others. They favor the buyer and it will ultimately
cost the seller more in the long run.

APO and FPO can't be tracked either. Tracking is a requirement for
the eBay/paypal so-called protection.

I was once a gi. Gi's move. Sometimes it takes a long while for the
gi to receive mail that has to follow him/her.

I realize that the problems are caused by the 'few', but they create a
risk or null out certain protective clauses in contracts. SOme
businesses can afford to go through the extra effort, wait the extra
time or live with the occasional loss. A business that loses one sale
in a hundred can afford the loss better than an individual who stands
to lose one in the only one or two sales they make.

Ebay/paypal is too protective for the buyers and not the sellers. The
law is too difficult to motivate for most of the little sales that
originate from ebay. Thieves know this and take advantage of this at
every opportunity they can.

Buck
n4pgw

--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

My sentiments exactly Paul. Its ridiculous we either are part of
the USA or we are'nt. Those catalogs that say "extra chipping
costs to Hawaii/Pr/Alaska etc I give them the deep six.
Joe

But the costs are extra to those businesses. shipping to those
states/territories are higher than cross-continent shipping.


--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 01:07:58 -0400, Buck wrote:

As for canada, there is a problem with tracking. At least a couple of
years ago, the cost of tracking a package, when possible, was
horrendously high. In the case of the US mail or Fedex, it was
impossible. I shipped to canada and the buyer said he didn't get it.
He sent a very impolite letter the day I noticed all other items
shipped that day arrived. I know he received it and later admitted
that it was shipped to the wrong address, which I know better.

Not being able to track makes for a risk that I was unwilling to
handle at the time, so I cut out shipping to canada.

[snip middle details]

Ebay/paypal is too protective for the buyers and not the sellers. The
law is too difficult to motivate for most of the little sales that
originate from ebay. Thieves know this and take advantage of this at
every opportunity they can.

Buck
n4pgw

--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

Well explained. Not my issue anyway, but I never heard about all that.

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

Buck wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:39:34 GMT, Paul Hinman
wrote:



I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states,
leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is
the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United
States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with
out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from
the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though
surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also
have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use
because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs
to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a
little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non
problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated
paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide
whether he wants to bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the
South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours,
I think that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross
posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad
audience.

Paul


\

As for canada, there is a problem with tracking. At least a couple of
years ago, the cost of tracking a package, when possible, was
horrendously high. In the case of the US mail or Fedex, it was
impossible. I shipped to canada and the buyer said he didn't get it.
He sent a very impolite letter the day I noticed all other items
shipped that day arrived. I know he received it and later admitted
that it was shipped to the wrong address, which I know better.

Not being able to track makes for a risk that I was unwilling to
handle at the time, so I cut out shipping to canada.

As for hawaii and alaska, tracking and shipping costs were terrible to
those places as well. Some items can't be shipped by air and would be
shipped by ship requiring a time delay in which, again, thieves take
advantage of and get their refund.

The combination of eBay and Paypal creates a haven for thieves in
those areas and others. They favor the buyer and it will ultimately
cost the seller more in the long run.

APO and FPO can't be tracked either. Tracking is a requirement for
the eBay/paypal so-called protection.

I was once a gi. Gi's move. Sometimes it takes a long while for the
gi to receive mail that has to follow him/her.

I realize that the problems are caused by the 'few', but they create a
risk or null out certain protective clauses in contracts. SOme
businesses can afford to go through the extra effort, wait the extra
time or live with the occasional loss. A business that loses one sale
in a hundred can afford the loss better than an individual who stands
to lose one in the only one or two sales they make.

Ebay/paypal is too protective for the buyers and not the sellers. The
law is too difficult to motivate for most of the little sales that
originate from ebay. Thieves know this and take advantage of this at
every opportunity they can.

Buck
n4pgw



The tracking is not a problem, FEDEX tracking works across the borders
and the USPS and Canada Post tracking systems interface with each other
using the tracking number issued at the point of mailing.

--
Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS
long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec
lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec
Maidenhead Locator DO33gk

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On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:06:59 GMT, Paul Hinman
wrote:





The tracking is not a problem, FEDEX tracking works across the borders
and the USPS and Canada Post tracking systems interface with each other
using the tracking number issued at the point of mailing.

Things may have changed, but when I tried to get tracking and/or proof
of delivery, I couldn't get it and got ripped off.


--
73 for now
Buck
N4PGW

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

In article ,
Buck wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:06:59 GMT, Paul Hinman
wrote:





The tracking is not a problem, FEDEX tracking works across the borders
and the USPS and Canada Post tracking systems interface with each other
using the tracking number issued at the point of mailing.

Things may have changed, but when I tried to get tracking and/or proof
of delivery, I couldn't get it and got ripped off.

yea, don't believe FedEx when they say they deliver to Alaska....They
only deliver to Anchortown, Fairbanks, and Juneau..... for all the bush
villages and towns, FedEx gets turned over to the USPS in Anchorage
for delivery, and there is NO Tracking after that...... FedEx SUCKS
for Alaska delivery..... Lost a Laptop to there system, no refund,
or claim was ever paid. got a letter from the Manager saying,
"So Sorry for your loss, I feel your pain." I'd like to give him
a bit of my pain, right in the ***........

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"Paul Hinman" wrote in message
news:aLfEg.400583$Mn5.137675@pd7tw3no...
I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states,
leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the
problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal
Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem.
I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but
the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation
may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown
which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border
crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck
with brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a
little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non
problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated
paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether
he wants to bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South
Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think
that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross
posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad
audience.

Paul

Paul,

The reason is very straightforward. This is a boatanchor newsgroup
and it's mostly geezers who deal in old radios.

Geezers live in the past; WE don't think critically; the same tired
thoughts cycle through our heads. Even worse, many of us
hallucinate and make up reasons. You'll see several in this
thread.

Many geezers (to be fair, not all) are Xeno-phobic.

To them, Hawai'i is FAR away and never having been there, geezers
imagine that it's a foreign country with different laws a strange
language. In their minds, it's a not that far from Hawai'i to, say,
Nigeria or Pakistan. Even if they could call the Honolulu police to
report a deal gone bad, they would not be able to speak to them with
finding a translater.

On the other hand, a geezer thinks, OK, I'm in Virginia, if a
$30 deal in Kansas goes bad, I'll just get in the Biscayne and drive
over there tomorrow, demand my money. I have that recourse.

People! As Paul says, Hawaii and Alaska are U.S. States.
They have senators in Washington. They vote for the president. As
far as the U.S.P.S, FedEx, and UPS are concerned, those states are,
like, right over there.

To Sprint and other fone companies, after 7 or 8 PM, just pick up
your fone and those places are a free call. If you pay for wired
service, it's 5 or 7 cents a minute.

Here are some actual numbers from www.fedex.com


2 day service - 20 pounds

Virginia to Kansas - $61.85
Virginia to California -$65.83
Virginia to Hawai'i - $66.87

2 day service - 60 pounds

Virginia to Kansas - $151.93
Virginia to California -$166.63
Virginia to Hawai'i - $169.24

About the same price for 2nd day service.


FedEx Ground service - 20 pounds

Virginia to Kansas - $12.70 - 4 days
Virginia to California -$16.03 - 4 days
Virginia to Hawai'i - $48.22 - 7 days


FedEx Ground service - 60 pounds

Virginia to Kansas - $28.40 - 4 days
Virginia to California -$39.08 - 4 days
Virginia to Hawai'i - $114.63 - 7 days

Three days longer and more dollars going ground to Hawai'i. But
then Buyer Pays Shipping!

The same tracking and return receipt, the same laws govern the
business deal. It takes about the same amount of time.


The reason that they say "lower 48" is that they think it's still
1936. It just comes out. There's no reason other than old
thoughts cycling in old heads like regeneration in a triode.


It's like hollarin' out,

Kids these days!

You call that music!

Dag-nabbit!


I've bought items from Canada and sold to Canada. One thing I don't
like about it is that it's expensive to ship across the border. In
fact, it's cheaper to ship though Canada to Alaska.

But then, buyer pays.

I just had the experience of buying from China, a DEGEN DE1103. If
you don't have one, go over to the Bay and look up the seller LIYPN.
$44 for the radio and $24 shipping and insurance. Took about 8 days
to get here.

This is the best pocket shortware radio. Check out the reviews on
the web. 1 kHz readout, better than 1 uV sensitivity, stable, 4
and 6 kHz filters. Covers 100 kHz to 30 mHz continuous so you can
listen to AM broadcast, 160 meters, everything!

I can sit in my car, pull out the whip antenna and copy 7040 CW in
the evening. I heard W1AW CW the other day, this is in
Virginia.

SSB sounds good. Well, mostly good. I still can't understand the
hollarin' on 27,000.

While you're buying and enjoying the DEGEN, think about global
commerce and the fact that you just traded with a real foreign
country.

de ah6gi/4

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

kh wrote:
On the other hand, a geezer thinks, OK, I'm in Virginia, if a
$30 deal in Kansas goes bad, I'll just get in the Biscayne and drive
over there tomorrow, demand my money. I have that recourse.

While spending $400 for gasoline?
--
73, Cecil, http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

"kh" wrote ...
The reason is very straightforward. This is a boatanchor
newsgroup and it's mostly geezers who deal in old radios.

Geezers live in the past; WE don't think critically; the same
tired thoughts cycle through our heads. Even worse, many
of us hallucinate and make up reasons. You'll see several
in this thread.

Including your own posting, apparently.

I've bought items from Canada and sold to Canada. One
thing I don't like about it is that it's expensive to ship across
the border. In fact, it's cheaper to ship though Canada to Alaska.

But then, buyer pays.

Unless something goes wrong. The abuse of international
transactions is legendary. Even eBay, PayPal, et.al. seem
to acknowledge it. As another poster observed, if you are
a large-volume commercial vendor, you can "eat" the
occasional transaction gone wrong. But if you are selling
one-off things (boat-anchors or not) on eBay, etc. it has a
significant chilling effect, no matter what generation you
represent.

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

I ship to anyone that wants to pay for it. I do avoid APO/FPO shipping, and
not because of scams but because of very very poor delivery chances on
anything not a 1 ounce letter.

I sent several boxes of supplies to friends serving in Iraq with the US
Marine Corps...most of the boxes languished in a warehouse in Germany for
about 4 weeks before being hauled to Iraq...then it was another 2 or 3 weeks
befire they actually got the stuff. Needless to say, never ship a puppy or
kitten to a war zone. I have one realative that was in Iraq for a year (the
last time). I mailed him a Christmas package at the end of October. He got
home in February and still hadn't received it.

I ship DX but the buyer has to pay for the shipping.


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"Paul Hinman" wrote in message
news:aLfEg.400583$Mn5.137675@pd7tw3no...
I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items
currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states,
leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is
the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United
States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with
out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from
the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though
surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also
have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use
because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs
to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a
little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non
problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated
paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide
whether he wants to bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the
South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours,
I think that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross
posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad
audience.

Paul

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Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS
long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec
lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec
Maidenhead Locator DO33gk

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

What I've done sending goodies to our troops is to use the flat rate
Priority Boxes available free at the post office. All you can stuff
into it for the 2 pounds rate or $8.10. Mose have been delivered within
a couple weeks.

If interested might check out http://www.anysolder.com

73 Bob W7AVK

What is wrong with Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada
 

"Paul Hinman" wrote in message news:aLfEg.400583$Mn5.137675@pd7tw3no...
I frequently see postings in the ham radio related newsgroups for items currently being offered on E-Bay.

All to often I that items will be shipped only to the lower 48 states, leaving hams in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada out of the picture. What is the problem. In Canada we are well served by FEDEX and the United States Postal Service. Amateur radio equipment crosses the border with out any problem. I realize that Hawaii and Alaska may be a bit far from the "lower 48" but the same delivery services are available even though surface transportation may be a little bit slow. In the US you also have UPS, the folks in Brown which we Canadians prefer not to use because the often make the border crossing more difficult than it needs to be and we don't like getting stuck with brokerage fees.

So why the discrimination, if the buyer knows that delivery may take a little longer and is prepared to accept the fact then it becomes a non problem. If the seller is intimidated by the prospect of complicated paperwork, he needn't be. Please leave it up to the buyer to decide whether he wants to bib or not.

I can not speak for shipments to Europe, Africa, India, China, or the South Pacific but for fellow Americans, or friendly northern neighbours, I think that people should be prepared to deal with us.

Thanx for letting get this off my chest and I realize that I have cross posted this to four different newsgroups but I wanted to get to a broad audience.

Paul

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Paul S. Hinman - VE6LDS
long West 113 deg 27 min 20 sec
lat North 53 deg 27 min 3 sec
Maidenhead Locator DO33gk