Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

Rick wrote:
What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?

Age... The round emblem was the last emblem used.

The winged emblem is considerably nicer looking.

-Chuck

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

Rick ) writes:
What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?

It's age, and never having had a COllins, I can never remember which came
first.

But, the reason people differentiate is becasue the change of the emblem
is an easy way of determining when the unit was built, and there are
minor design changes that came with the emblem changeover. Again I
can't remember details, but it's on the level of one has plug-in relays
and the other doesn't.

People do not desire Collins equipment with certain types of emblems,
they desire the version of the equipment that comes with the specific
emblem.

This has come up before, and I know the differences were defined the
last time the question came out, which must have been within the
past two years, if that far back. Doing a search of the newsgroup
archives at google should reveal the last time this came up, and
the internal differences.

Michael VE2BVW

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:23:18 -0400, Chuck Harris
wrote:

What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?

Age... The round emblem was the last emblem used.

Other way round, isn't it?

-- Larry

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

Michael Black wrote:
Rick ) writes:
What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?

It's age, and never having had a COllins, I can never remember which came
first.

But, the reason people differentiate is becasue the change of the emblem
is an easy way of determining when the unit was built, and there are
minor design changes that came with the emblem changeover. Again I
can't remember details, but it's on the level of one has plug-in relays
and the other doesn't.

Not true! The plugin relays were very early in the S-line, and were
gone long before the round emblem.

People do not desire Collins equipment with certain types of emblems,
they desire the version of the equipment that comes with the specific
emblem.

Also not true. The later winged emblem models had the same upgrades
as the round emblem.


It is purely a want for the youngest of the units.

-Chuck

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

pltrgyst wrote:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:23:18 -0400, Chuck Harris
wrote:

What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?
Age... The round emblem was the last emblem used.

Other way round, isn't it?

Sorry, no. The round emblem was the newest used on
the S-line series.

-Chuck

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

Chuck Harris wrote:
Michael Black wrote:
Rick ) writes:
What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and
the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?

It's age, and never having had a COllins, I can never remember which came
first.

But, the reason people differentiate is becasue the change of the emblem
is an easy way of determining when the unit was built, and there are
minor design changes that came with the emblem changeover. Again I
can't remember details, but it's on the level of one has plug-in relays
and the other doesn't.

Not true! The plugin relays were very early in the S-line, and were

~----------------^^^^^^ wired in

gone long before the round emblem.

People do not desire Collins equipment with certain types of emblems,
they desire the version of the equipment that comes with the specific
emblem.

Also not true. The later winged emblem models had the same upgrades
as the round emblem.


It is purely a want for the youngest of the units.

-Chuck

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

Actually, the last emblem used on the S-Line was the rectangular
Rockwell logo.

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

K3HVG wrote:
Actually, the last emblem used on the S-Line was the rectangular
Rockwell logo.

I had thought the S-Line was our of production before that change.
Learn something new everyday!

-Chuck

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

"Rick" wrote in message
...

What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?

Apparently -- age when they were made

For what it is worth see The evolution of the Collins emblem URL:

http://k9ham.cargodog.net/collins.htm

And for further research -- it sez: For more information on the Round
Emblem transition, please see the 1998 March/April issue of the Collins
Journal.

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

My understanding of the difference is that the round emblem appeared when
Rockwell acquired Collins Radio. Therefore, the winged emblem was used when
it was Art Collins &Co. and the round one was used for the later products
produced as a part of Rockwell.

If someone has a different understanding, I would be eager to learn about
it.

Joe
W5WBR
"Rick" wrote in message
...

What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?

Collins, meaning of "winged emblem"
 

"Joe Watson" wrote in message
...
My understanding of the difference is that the round emblem appeared when
Rockwell acquired Collins Radio. Therefore, the winged emblem was used
when it was Art Collins &Co. and the round one was used for the later
products produced as a part of Rockwell.

If someone has a different understanding, I would be eager to learn about
it.

Joe
W5WBR
"Rick" wrote in message
...

What is the difference between the "winged emblem" Collins radios and the
other kind ("round" emblem?)?



From URL:


Apparently -- age when they were made

For what it is worth see The evolution of the Collins emblem URL:


http://k9ham.cargodog.net/collins.htm

Sez:

The first Collins trademark, used in 1933, was a globe with lines of
longitude and latitude and two long, slim wings extending from it. The idea
was submitted by a Cedar Rapids firm for a letterhead on the first company
stationary.

The following year, the same idea reappeared with the grids removed, the
globe enlarged and shaded, and wings shortened.

By the 1960's, the Collins name was prominently displayed in a redesigned
trademark which replaced the wings with straight lines, now referred to as
the "winged emblem" in the ads.

In 1961, a new trademark was produced by Ken Parkhurst & Associates of Los
Angeles. The symbol was patterned after widening circles caused by dropping
a pebble into a pond. However, hams referred to this emblem as the rather
undignfied "meatball" reference.

After the acquisition of Collins by Rockwell International in 1973, the
Collins divisions adopted the trademark of the parent corporation. During
the transition, S/Line equipment and M-2 as seen in a 1975 brochure did not
have an emblem at all.

For more information on the Round Emblem transition, please see the 1998
March/April issue of the Collins Journal.


And for further research -- it sez: For more information on the Round
Emblem transition, please see the 1998 March/April issue of the Collins
Journal.


Lamont