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I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking at it -
the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB operation.
There is no "band select" switch on it.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple times. Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

So - my question is - "was" this made for 10 meters - which I'm assuming it
would be being a "single band", OR for 11 meters?

At any rate - I acquired it some time ago - the "Finals" were removed. I'm
not sure if they were smoked "or" someone was wanting to put bigger ones in
it to beef it up.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes about 3/4
of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC board, the
cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying to get
the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility for a
"multi-band" amp.

I would like to sell this thing for parts - whole or parted out. If anyone
has any info on it - so maybe the Transformer can be used otherwise - or is
interested in buying this, let me know.

Even if it were for "10 meters" - "I" have no use for it. Even as a Ham,
I've never used an Amp. Never needed to.

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Given the name, is there any question as to what market it was designed
for, at all?

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"K3HVG" wrote in message
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Given the name, is there any question as to what market it was designed
for, at all?


Well, I tend to agree with you - there - but just figured if I could get any
info on it - the transformer - at the least could be put to better use.

I am wanting to clear out a bunch of stuff from my shop and basement. I
won't let it go - to be put on 11m. IF that was the case, could have done
that long ago. I've only had the thing taking up space for about 10 years or
so.

I'm certainly not going to waste any more time asking about it - looking at
it - storing it. It will be miscellaneous parts by days end. I'll use the
cabinet for maybe a home brew power supply or something. That and the Tranny
is about the only two good things worth keeping of it all - parting it out.

Thanks!

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Most of those amps utilized TV sweep tubes -- would guess by the 200 (200
watts).

Sweep tubes are rather expensive to obtain nowadays, so your junk scheme
looks pretty practical.


"radiosrfun" wrote in message
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I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking at
it - the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB
operation. There is no "band select" switch on it.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple times. Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

So - my question is - "was" this made for 10 meters - which I'm assuming
it would be being a "single band", OR for 11 meters?

At any rate - I acquired it some time ago - the "Finals" were removed. I'm
not sure if they were smoked "or" someone was wanting to put bigger ones
in it to beef it up.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes about
3/4 of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC board,
the cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying
to get the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility
for a "multi-band" amp.

I would like to sell this thing for parts - whole or parted out. If anyone
has any info on it - so maybe the Transformer can be used otherwise - or
is interested in buying this, let me know.

Even if it were for "10 meters" - "I" have no use for it. Even as a Ham,
I've never used an Amp. Never needed to.

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Actually PJ, this used Transistors! It was all solid state.

"PJ" wrote in message
news:3xrij.298190$Fc.46638@attbi_s21...
Most of those amps utilized TV sweep tubes -- would guess by the 200 (200
watts).

Sweep tubes are rather expensive to obtain nowadays, so your junk scheme
looks pretty practical.


"radiosrfun" wrote in message
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I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking at
it - the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB
operation. There is no "band select" switch on it.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple times.
Any hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

So - my question is - "was" this made for 10 meters - which I'm assuming
it would be being a "single band", OR for 11 meters?

At any rate - I acquired it some time ago - the "Finals" were removed.
I'm not sure if they were smoked "or" someone was wanting to put bigger
ones in it to beef it up.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes about
3/4 of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC
board, the cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of
trying to get the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a
possibility for a "multi-band" amp.

I would like to sell this thing for parts - whole or parted out. If
anyone has any info on it - so maybe the Transformer can be used
otherwise - or is interested in buying this, let me know.

Even if it were for "10 meters" - "I" have no use for it. Even as a Ham,
I've never used an Amp. Never needed to.

Amplifier
 

radiosrfun wrote:
I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking at it -
the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB operation.
There is no "band select" switch on it.

This amplifier is for 11 meters. And also 11/3 meters and 11/5 meters
too of course.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple times. Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

Look for "Alabama Pillbox" and see if that's what you've got.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes about 3/4
of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC board, the
cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying to get
the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility for a
"multi-band" amp.

Is it intended for AC use or for 12V use? If it's for 12V use, the
transformer and inverter circuit may be useful for something. If it's
for AC power, the transformer is probably the only part worth salvaging.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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radiosrfun wrote:
I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking at
it -
the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB operation.
There is no "band select" switch on it.

This amplifier is for 11 meters. And also 11/3 meters and 11/5 meters
too of course.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple times. Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

Look for "Alabama Pillbox" and see if that's what you've got.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes about
3/4
of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC board, the
cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying to
get
the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility for a
"multi-band" amp.

Is it intended for AC use or for 12V use? If it's for 12V use, the
transformer and inverter circuit may be useful for something. If it's
for AC power, the transformer is probably the only part worth salvaging.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott,

It is for 120VAC. That is pretty much what I had said - the transformer and
cabinet. The Cabinet would make for a nice homebrew power supply or
something. Maybe - depending on the transformer - can use it for the same
project!

This transformer is pretty hefty. It is about 2/3 the weight of the Amp.

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On Jan 13, 3:55 pm, "radiosrfun" wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

...



radiosrfun wrote:
I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking at
it -
the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB operation.
There is no "band select" switch on it.

This amplifier is for 11 meters. And also 11/3 meters and 11/5 meters
too of course.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple times. Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

Look for "Alabama Pillbox" and see if that's what you've got.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes about
3/4
of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC board, the
cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying to
get
the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility for a
"multi-band" amp.

Is it intended for AC use or for 12V use? If it's for 12V use, the
transformer and inverter circuit may be useful for something. If it's
for AC power, the transformer is probably the only part worth salvaging.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott,

It is for 120VAC. That is pretty much what I had said - the transformer and
cabinet. The Cabinet would make for a nice homebrew power supply or
something. Maybe - depending on the transformer - can use it for the same
project!

This transformer is pretty hefty. It is about 2/3 the weight of the Amp.

It is a piece of cb junk, I wouldn't put it on the air.

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"cmdr buzz corey" wrote in message
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On Jan 13, 3:55 pm, "radiosrfun" wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

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radiosrfun wrote:
I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking at
it -
the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB operation.
There is no "band select" switch on it.

This amplifier is for 11 meters. And also 11/3 meters and 11/5 meters
too of course.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple times.
Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

Look for "Alabama Pillbox" and see if that's what you've got.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes about
3/4
of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC board,
the
cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying to
get
the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility for a
"multi-band" amp.

Is it intended for AC use or for 12V use? If it's for 12V use, the
transformer and inverter circuit may be useful for something. If it's
for AC power, the transformer is probably the only part worth
salvaging.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott,

It is for 120VAC. That is pretty much what I had said - the transformer
and
cabinet. The Cabinet would make for a nice homebrew power supply or
something. Maybe - depending on the transformer - can use it for the same
project!

This transformer is pretty hefty. It is about 2/3 the weight of the Amp.

It is a piece of cb junk, I wouldn't put it on the air.

It can't go there - "anymore"!

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"radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
"cmdr buzz corey" wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 3:55 pm, "radiosrfun" wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

...



radiosrfun wrote:
I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking
at
it -
the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB
operation.
There is no "band select" switch on it.

This amplifier is for 11 meters. And also 11/3 meters and 11/5 meters
too of course.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple times.
Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

Look for "Alabama Pillbox" and see if that's what you've got.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes
about
3/4
of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC board,
the
cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying
to
get
the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility for
a
"multi-band" amp.

Is it intended for AC use or for 12V use? If it's for 12V use, the
transformer and inverter circuit may be useful for something. If it's
for AC power, the transformer is probably the only part worth
salvaging.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott,

It is for 120VAC. That is pretty much what I had said - the transformer
and
cabinet. The Cabinet would make for a nice homebrew power supply or
something. Maybe - depending on the transformer - can use it for the
same
project!

This transformer is pretty hefty. It is about 2/3 the weight of the Amp.

It is a piece of cb junk, I wouldn't put it on the air.

It can't go there - "anymore"!

I had a "good" hunch that this crap was a 11m Amp - but I suppose I was
allowing the label of "Amateur" throw me off. As someone pointed out - the
fact "no" info existed - should have made that clear. What seemed strange to
me, was I've been able to find info (operating and/or schematics) on just
about every other amp out there - be it 10m, 11m or multi-band. This one -
nada. Anyway - the finals were removed before I got it. As I stated - not
sure if they were smoked or someone was desiring to put in heftier ones. At
any rate - I've junked it - will keep the useable parts
(cabinet/tranny/etc). I'll find some use for them.

Thanks to all who replied.

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cmdr buzz corey wrote:

It is a piece of cb junk, I wouldn't put it on the air.

Nobody in their right mind would. But somebody might gut the electronics
and build a nice audio amplifier or something into that case with that
power transformer.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
cmdr buzz corey wrote:

It is a piece of cb junk, I wouldn't put it on the air.

Nobody in their right mind would. But somebody might gut the electronics
and build a nice audio amplifier or something into that case with that
power transformer.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Yeah, I'd like to incorporate those two items - Scott. Too good to just
throw away! I'm going to skim through my box full of "Schematics"/"Projects"
that I've saved over the years from various magazines - to see if I can find
something I can use "especially" the Transformer for - and make good use
of - not just to be built and thrown aside.
I LOVE homebrewing - but don't like to build things just to do it. I try to
build "useable" items - to help in the shop. Have built a few things which
ended up saving me tons of time. THAT is worth it - alone.

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"radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
"radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
"cmdr buzz corey" wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 3:55 pm, "radiosrfun" wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

...



radiosrfun wrote:
I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking
at
it -
the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB
operation.
There is no "band select" switch on it.

This amplifier is for 11 meters. And also 11/3 meters and 11/5
meters
too of course.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple
times. Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

Look for "Alabama Pillbox" and see if that's what you've got.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes
about
3/4
of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC
board, the
cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying
to
get
the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility for
a
"multi-band" amp.

Is it intended for AC use or for 12V use? If it's for 12V use, the
transformer and inverter circuit may be useful for something. If
it's
for AC power, the transformer is probably the only part worth
salvaging.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott,

It is for 120VAC. That is pretty much what I had said - the transformer
and
cabinet. The Cabinet would make for a nice homebrew power supply or
something. Maybe - depending on the transformer - can use it for the
same
project!

This transformer is pretty hefty. It is about 2/3 the weight of the
Amp.

It is a piece of cb junk, I wouldn't put it on the air.

It can't go there - "anymore"!

I had a "good" hunch that this crap was a 11m Amp - but I suppose I was
allowing the label of "Amateur" throw me off. As someone pointed out - the
fact "no" info existed - should have made that clear. What seemed strange
to me, was I've been able to find info (operating and/or schematics) on
just about every other amp out there - be it 10m, 11m or multi-band. This
one - nada. Anyway - the finals were removed before I got it. As I
stated - not sure if they were smoked or someone was desiring to put in
heftier ones. At any rate - I've junked it - will keep the useable parts
(cabinet/tranny/etc). I'll find some use for them.

Thanks to all who replied.

Years ago, when I was doing bench work on marine radios in a shop that did
some cb work as well car stereos, Some one brought in a six meter amp that
had a tapped coil in it. There was a big label inside saying that if the tap
was removed from the coil that it would radiate around 26 MHz which would be
out side of amateur frequencies.

Leanne

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"Leanne" wrote in message
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"radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
"radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
"cmdr buzz corey" wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 3:55 pm, "radiosrfun" wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

...



radiosrfun wrote:
I have an Amplifier - Penetrater HB 200 - which is labeled "Amateur
Bi-Linear". It has a switch for on/off (power) - and without looking
at
it -
the other I believe either for the receive pre-amp OR AM/SSB
operation.
There is no "band select" switch on it.

This amplifier is for 11 meters. And also 11/3 meters and 11/5
meters
too of course.

I can't find a lick of info on this amp - have googled a couple
times. Any
hits I got were non-informative - unless I missed one.

Look for "Alabama Pillbox" and see if that's what you've got.

The "Transformer" in this thing is hefty and probably constitutes
about
3/4
of the weight of the Amp. Aside from the Tranny - there is a PC
board, the
cabinet, connectors - thats about it. I had always thought of trying
to
get
the Tranny info - and "maybe" - seeing if there was a possibility
for a
"multi-band" amp.

Is it intended for AC use or for 12V use? If it's for 12V use, the
transformer and inverter circuit may be useful for something. If
it's
for AC power, the transformer is probably the only part worth
salvaging.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott,

It is for 120VAC. That is pretty much what I had said - the
transformer and
cabinet. The Cabinet would make for a nice homebrew power supply or
something. Maybe - depending on the transformer - can use it for the
same
project!

This transformer is pretty hefty. It is about 2/3 the weight of the
Amp.

It is a piece of cb junk, I wouldn't put it on the air.

It can't go there - "anymore"!

I had a "good" hunch that this crap was a 11m Amp - but I suppose I was
allowing the label of "Amateur" throw me off. As someone pointed out -
the fact "no" info existed - should have made that clear. What seemed
strange to me, was I've been able to find info (operating and/or
schematics) on just about every other amp out there - be it 10m, 11m or
multi-band. This one - nada. Anyway - the finals were removed before I
got it. As I stated - not sure if they were smoked or someone was
desiring to put in heftier ones. At any rate - I've junked it - will keep
the useable parts (cabinet/tranny/etc). I'll find some use for them.

Thanks to all who replied.

Years ago, when I was doing bench work on marine radios in a shop that did
some cb work as well car stereos, Some one brought in a six meter amp that
had a tapped coil in it. There was a big label inside saying that if the
tap was removed from the coil that it would radiate around 26 MHz which
would be out side of amateur frequencies.

Leanne

I never "seen" any personally - but Lafayette Radio Electronics - I
"believe" made amps for 10m and 6m. I wonder if theirs had any "handy"
labeling and tapping - going on?

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"radiosrfun" ) writes:
"Leanne" wrote in message
...

Years ago, when I was doing bench work on marine radios in a shop that did
some cb work as well car stereos, Some one brought in a six meter amp that
had a tapped coil in it. There was a big label inside saying that if the
tap was removed from the coil that it would radiate around 26 MHz which
would be out side of amateur frequencies.

Leanne

I never "seen" any personally - but Lafayette Radio Electronics - I
"believe" made amps for 10m and 6m. I wonder if theirs had any "handy"
labeling and tapping - going on?

And they were on the CB page, and including the disclaimer "illegal for
class D Citizen Band use". I don't think they even bothered with
six metres, just from the bottom of the CB band to the top of the 10 metre
band. Needed only a couple of watts to drive them, and put out no more
than a 100watts (if that), making their purpose very apparent.

It was that sort of thing that led to the US amplifier rules, though
my remembrance is that the Big Catalog places may have made those
amplifiers disappear from the pages before, perhaps feeling a sense
of responsibility. Or maybe it's just the Big Catalog places like
Lafayette and Olson and such were out of business or fading by
the time the rules were brought in.

Michael VE2BVW