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David Thompson May 20th 08 05:49 PM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 
The reason I said either slicer or ssb adapter is as follows:

A slicer allows one to copy and select the sideband
on an older receiver such as the Hammarlund 129X.
The most prominent slicer was amde by Central Electronics there were two
versions, one just a slicer and another with a Q Multiplier which was
usually missing from older receivers. There were several other slicers on
the market. I had one called a VR
made in New England. RME made one to match the 4300/4350 receivers. This
was the only one that did not match 455 kcs IF's.

The best example of the ssb adapter was the Hammarlund HC-10 which added
another IF plus a slot and pass band filter. The SPC-10 was exactly the
same except sold to the DOD for six times as much as the HC-10. Frank
Lester (SK) designed these and helped incorporate them into several of the
Hammarlund receivers. TMC and several others made ssb adapters, too.

Both the slicer and SSB adapters made copying CW better too.

Dave K4JRB and still looking!



Tio Pedro May 20th 08 08:58 PM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 

"David Thompson" wrote in message
...
The reason I said either slicer or ssb adapter is as follows:

A slicer allows one to copy and select the sideband
on an older receiver such as the Hammarlund 129X.
The most prominent slicer was amde by Central Electronics there were two
versions, one just a slicer and another with a Q Multiplier which was
usually missing from older receivers. There were several other slicers on
the market. I had one called a VR
made in New England. RME made one to match the 4300/4350 receivers. This
was the only one that did not match 455 kcs IF's.

The best example of the ssb adapter was the Hammarlund HC-10 which added
another IF plus a slot and pass band filter. The SPC-10 was exactly the
same except sold to the DOD for six times as much as the HC-10. Frank
Lester (SK) designed these and helped incorporate them into several of the
Hammarlund receivers. TMC and several others made ssb adapters, too.

Both the slicer and SSB adapters made copying CW better too.

Dave K4JRB and still looking!



The B&W 370 includes a SSB crystal filter.



[email protected] May 20th 08 11:30 PM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 
On May 16, 3:18*pm, "David Thompson" wrote:
Sure a solid state one would be OK. *There is a solid state SSB adapter on
Ebay for the little solid state receivers ($40 or so). *Just need to get one
to match the 455 IF as I am betting the little Chinese RX has an odd ball IF
probably 30 mhz or higher!
Dave K4JRB


Those radios have a 455 if output to connect to that adapter.

COLIN LAMB May 21st 08 05:12 AM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 
My RME 4350 has a 455 kc if. Never owned the 4301, but expect it would have
taken the output after the 455 kc conversion.

73, Colin K7FM



Scott Dorsey May 21st 08 02:01 PM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 
In article ,
wrote:
On May 16, 3:18=A0pm, "David Thompson" wrote:
Sure a solid state one would be OK. =A0There is a solid state SSB adapter =

on
Ebay for the little solid state receivers ($40 or so). =A0Just need to get=

one
to match the 455 IF as I am betting the little Chinese RX has an odd ball =

IF
probably 30 mhz or higher!
Dave K4JRB


Those radios have a 455 if output to connect to that adapter.


What is this adaptor and this radio? Anybody got an actual name?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Richard Knoppow May 22nd 08 12:27 AM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 

"Edward Knobloch" wrote in message
news:KmoYj.505$ju1.354@trndny06...
Richard Knoppow wrote:
I found the handbook for the CE box on BAMA and will
have a look at what they are doing.


Hi,

The Central Electronics Slicer was based on the GE Signal
Slicer,
which appeared in GE Ham News, July-Aug 1951.

BANA has the issue, under the category gehamnews,
filename ge0604.pdf

The GE article shows how to build it, including the the 90
degree
audio phase shift network. It's pretty slick -
a selectable sideband adapter based on a phase shifting
circuit,
for any 450kc to 500kc i.f. receiver.

73,
Ed Knobloch



I have the full set of GE Ham News from the web so I'll
look for it. One of the patents is from R.B.Dome and was one
of those for the Dome stereo system for FM.


--
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA




Richard Knoppow May 22nd 08 03:18 AM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 

"Edward Knobloch" wrote in message
news:KmoYj.505$ju1.354@trndny06...
Richard Knoppow wrote:
I found the handbook for the CE box on BAMA and will
have a look at what they are doing.


Hi,

The Central Electronics Slicer was based on the GE Signal
Slicer,
which appeared in GE Ham News, July-Aug 1951.

BANA has the issue, under the category gehamnews,
filename ge0604.pdf

The GE article shows how to build it, including the the 90
degree
audio phase shift network. It's pretty slick -
a selectable sideband adapter based on a phase shifting
circuit,
for any 450kc to 500kc i.f. receiver.

73,
Ed Knobloch


I printed this out. The GE treatment is much more
informative than the CE handbook and the schematic is drawn
in a less confusing way.
This issue of GE Ham News does not have details of the
90degree network, it refers to an earlier edition which has
an artical on building a phasing type transmitting SSB
generator. That one does not appear to be on-line, at least
not on the BAMA site.
Its interesting to me that General Electric was hep to
SSB for ham use in about 1950 when it was still quite a
novelty. Of course SSB goes back into the 1930's for
commercial purposes, maybe even earlier. I don't remember
when AT&T began to use it for their transoceanic telephone
service.


--
---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA




[email protected] May 22nd 08 03:41 PM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 
On May 21, 8:01 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
In article ,

wrote:
On May 16, 3:18=A0pm, "David Thompson" wrote:
Sure a solid state one would be OK. =A0There is a solid state SSB adapter =

on
Ebay for the little solid state receivers ($40 or so). =A0Just need to get=

one
to match the 455 IF as I am betting the little Chinese RX has an odd ball =

IF
probably 30 mhz or higher!
Dave K4JRB


Those radios have a 455 if output to connect to that adapter.


What is this adaptor and this radio? Anybody got an actual name?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


E-Bay Item # 140138471416


k3hvg May 22nd 08 04:18 PM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 

E-Bay Item # 140138471416


Given the array of components, looks like a simple crystal controlled
BFO, not a product detector? Any idea of what the IF is?


[email protected] May 22nd 08 04:26 PM

WTB slicer or ssb adapter
 
On May 22, 10:18 am, k3hvg wrote:
E-Bay Item # 140138471416


Given the array of components, looks like a simple crystal controlled
BFO, not a product detector? Any idea of what the IF is?


455 KC


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