RadioBanter

RadioBanter (https://www.radiobanter.com/)
-   Boatanchors (https://www.radiobanter.com/boatanchors/)
-   -   Requesting Your Opinion on Boatanchors for AM work (https://www.radiobanter.com/boatanchors/4278-requesting-your-opinion-boatanchors-am-work.html)

Michael Black October 25th 03 11:26 PM

David Toepfer ) writes:

Any help with suggesting a good kW linear that would preserve a
hi-fidelity signal would be appreciated as well.

It was before my time, but I don't think anyone used linears much
for AM. Yes, it could be done, but I don't think it was done much.

What they'd do is take the exciter, and put it in CW mode (maybe pulling
the modulator tubes to decrease current drain and strain on the power
supply) and feed it into a high level stage that was plate modulated.
And of course, there was a really hefty plate modulator to go with it.

Michael VE2BVW


K3HVG October 26th 03 11:22 AM

I like and use Valiant I's. I have 2 of them and they sounds quite nice,
via the ER audio mods. One can have a Valiant for the same price as asked
for a Ranger. Rangers are horribly overrated! The extra 100 watts out of
the Valiant helps, too!! The DX-100 is a nice classic rig, if found in
suitable condition (read: wiring condition and corrosion). The VF-1
design VFO in the DX-100 may be quite problematic, too. But, they do
sound good, don't they?
Receiver wise? Yes, the SX-28 sounds nice but conditions require better
spectrum control. I use either a 75A4 or a National NC-303. Heck, an
SX-100 is quite fine, too. Or how about an HQ-170AC? Not general
coverage.. but can be had for a song and really work fine! But, like
Ford's and Chevy's, what we have here is what you like, personally..
de K3HVG




K3HVG October 26th 03 11:22 AM

I like and use Valiant I's. I have 2 of them and they sounds quite nice,
via the ER audio mods. One can have a Valiant for the same price as asked
for a Ranger. Rangers are horribly overrated! The extra 100 watts out of
the Valiant helps, too!! The DX-100 is a nice classic rig, if found in
suitable condition (read: wiring condition and corrosion). The VF-1
design VFO in the DX-100 may be quite problematic, too. But, they do
sound good, don't they?
Receiver wise? Yes, the SX-28 sounds nice but conditions require better
spectrum control. I use either a 75A4 or a National NC-303. Heck, an
SX-100 is quite fine, too. Or how about an HQ-170AC? Not general
coverage.. but can be had for a song and really work fine! But, like
Ford's and Chevy's, what we have here is what you like, personally..
de K3HVG




Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard October 27th 03 12:29 PM

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:22:09 -0500, K3HVG sent into
the ether:

I like and use Valiant I's. I have 2 of them and they sounds quite nice,
via the ER audio mods. One can have a Valiant for the same price as asked
for a Ranger. Rangers are horribly overrated! The extra 100 watts out of
the Valiant helps, too!! The DX-100 is a nice classic rig, if found in
suitable condition (read: wiring condition and corrosion). The VF-1
design VFO in the DX-100 may be quite problematic, too. But, they do
sound good, don't they?
Receiver wise? Yes, the SX-28 sounds nice but conditions require better
spectrum control. I use either a 75A4 or a National NC-303. Heck, an
SX-100 is quite fine, too. Or how about an HQ-170AC? Not general
coverage.. but can be had for a song and really work fine! But, like
Ford's and Chevy's, what we have here is what you like, personally..
de K3HVG



I like my B&W 5100-B. Although it doesn't do topband, it sounds
great, without having to mod the audio. My second choice is my Ranger
with a slight mod to match it to my voice range. It's been so long
since I did the mod I would have to dig out the manual and look at it
for the marked changes. Course the Ranger sound is heard better
through the Johnson Desk :}

Dan
www.outdoorfrontiers.com
REMOVE left x for direct e-mail reply

Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard October 27th 03 12:29 PM

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:22:09 -0500, K3HVG sent into
the ether:

I like and use Valiant I's. I have 2 of them and they sounds quite nice,
via the ER audio mods. One can have a Valiant for the same price as asked
for a Ranger. Rangers are horribly overrated! The extra 100 watts out of
the Valiant helps, too!! The DX-100 is a nice classic rig, if found in
suitable condition (read: wiring condition and corrosion). The VF-1
design VFO in the DX-100 may be quite problematic, too. But, they do
sound good, don't they?
Receiver wise? Yes, the SX-28 sounds nice but conditions require better
spectrum control. I use either a 75A4 or a National NC-303. Heck, an
SX-100 is quite fine, too. Or how about an HQ-170AC? Not general
coverage.. but can be had for a song and really work fine! But, like
Ford's and Chevy's, what we have here is what you like, personally..
de K3HVG



I like my B&W 5100-B. Although it doesn't do topband, it sounds
great, without having to mod the audio. My second choice is my Ranger
with a slight mod to match it to my voice range. It's been so long
since I did the mod I would have to dig out the manual and look at it
for the marked changes. Course the Ranger sound is heard better
through the Johnson Desk :}

Dan
www.outdoorfrontiers.com
REMOVE left x for direct e-mail reply

[email protected] October 29th 03 03:12 AM

Hi,

I own a SX-28A, which is similar to the 28. A fine looking old radio,
somewhat difficult to work on. Stable, but lacking in sens and
selectivity when compared to the other radios you mentioned. Remember
the SX28 and 28A were designed in the 30s.

I also own both an R390 and an R390A. If you want the ultimate in AM
performance, either of these beauties will do it for you. I perfer
the R390 because it tunes more smoothly and overall has a smoother
feel. On the air performance is similar in both, and of course both
have the famous mechanical dial.

I also own a SP-600 JX-17. Very fun radio, smooth tuning, but crowded
dial and not easy to interpolate the received frequency. Fine for
tuning the SW broadcast bands, not so fine for Ham bands.

Regards,

Bob

On 25 Oct 2003 06:33:19 -0700, (David Toepfer)
wrote:

In the future I would like to set up an AM station for the low bands
(just 160m, 80m, and 40m) and am doing some research as to what
equipment I should be looking for. I am looking to choose a good
quality Receiver and Transmitter to start with and stay with. I don't
have the space for a BoatAnchor collention right now, but would like
to set myself up with a station with nice hi-quality audio for AM
work. I am not looking to DX with them or contest with them. Just
looking to do some high quality domestic AM work.

To start I am looking for a good receiver, preferably with really good
fidelity for AM. From what I have been reading everywhere it seems
that the

Hallicrafters SX-28

is the receiver to have if you are looking for good sound. People say
it has good frequency stability. I was wondering how you would
compare it on these points as well as selectivity and sensitivity with
these other receivers which seem to be quite fine as well:

Collins R-390
Collins 51J-4
Collins 75A-4

Hammarlund SP-600

Or does anyone have any others to suggest as well?

Also, I am completely in the dark as far as transmitters go for the
same kind of work. I am likewise looking for good high fidelity witr
good frequency stability AM. But I don't know where to go (or is
building your own rack the best way to go for this kind of work?)

The transmitter I have come across for hi-fidelity AM work seems to be
the

Johnson Ranger and
Johnson Ranger II (not sure what is the difference between them)

Or is the Valiant or Viking better?
But I am sure there are others out there as well.

Any help with suggesting a good kW linear that would preserve a
hi-fidelity signal would be appreciated as well.

Are there any other things I should be considering as well that I have
missed asking because of my relative newness to this area?

This is a long term project and I am just in the information gathering
phases right now.

Any help would be appreciated.

73

dt
.



[email protected] October 29th 03 03:12 AM

Hi,

I own a SX-28A, which is similar to the 28. A fine looking old radio,
somewhat difficult to work on. Stable, but lacking in sens and
selectivity when compared to the other radios you mentioned. Remember
the SX28 and 28A were designed in the 30s.

I also own both an R390 and an R390A. If you want the ultimate in AM
performance, either of these beauties will do it for you. I perfer
the R390 because it tunes more smoothly and overall has a smoother
feel. On the air performance is similar in both, and of course both
have the famous mechanical dial.

I also own a SP-600 JX-17. Very fun radio, smooth tuning, but crowded
dial and not easy to interpolate the received frequency. Fine for
tuning the SW broadcast bands, not so fine for Ham bands.

Regards,

Bob

On 25 Oct 2003 06:33:19 -0700, (David Toepfer)
wrote:

In the future I would like to set up an AM station for the low bands
(just 160m, 80m, and 40m) and am doing some research as to what
equipment I should be looking for. I am looking to choose a good
quality Receiver and Transmitter to start with and stay with. I don't
have the space for a BoatAnchor collention right now, but would like
to set myself up with a station with nice hi-quality audio for AM
work. I am not looking to DX with them or contest with them. Just
looking to do some high quality domestic AM work.

To start I am looking for a good receiver, preferably with really good
fidelity for AM. From what I have been reading everywhere it seems
that the

Hallicrafters SX-28

is the receiver to have if you are looking for good sound. People say
it has good frequency stability. I was wondering how you would
compare it on these points as well as selectivity and sensitivity with
these other receivers which seem to be quite fine as well:

Collins R-390
Collins 51J-4
Collins 75A-4

Hammarlund SP-600

Or does anyone have any others to suggest as well?

Also, I am completely in the dark as far as transmitters go for the
same kind of work. I am likewise looking for good high fidelity witr
good frequency stability AM. But I don't know where to go (or is
building your own rack the best way to go for this kind of work?)

The transmitter I have come across for hi-fidelity AM work seems to be
the

Johnson Ranger and
Johnson Ranger II (not sure what is the difference between them)

Or is the Valiant or Viking better?
But I am sure there are others out there as well.

Any help with suggesting a good kW linear that would preserve a
hi-fidelity signal would be appreciated as well.

Are there any other things I should be considering as well that I have
missed asking because of my relative newness to this area?

This is a long term project and I am just in the information gathering
phases right now.

Any help would be appreciated.

73

dt
.



Scott Dorsey October 29th 03 03:53 PM

wrote:
the SX28 and 28A were designed in the 30s.

I also own both an R390 and an R390A. If you want the ultimate in AM
performance, either of these beauties will do it for you. I perfer
the R390 because it tunes more smoothly and overall has a smoother
feel. On the air performance is similar in both, and of course both
have the famous mechanical dial.


The RF performance on these radios cannot be beat. In my office at work
I have a Watkins-Johnson HF system that cost the government a few tens of
thousands of dollars and directly digitizes the IF for digital filtering
and demodulation. The R-390A is better at pulling weak signals out of
the trash (although the panadaptor display on the Watkins-Johnson is hard to
beat).

The problem with the R390 is that the audio quality just stinks. Great for
DXing, not good for casual shortwave listening. The filters ring like mad
and the distortion on the output stage is way too high for my taste. There
are some aftermarket AF decks for these but they don't solve the real problems.

But, my god, they pull stuff out of nowhere. And once they are warmed up,
they are stable enough to stay tuned on a RTTY station for weeks.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey October 29th 03 03:53 PM

wrote:
the SX28 and 28A were designed in the 30s.

I also own both an R390 and an R390A. If you want the ultimate in AM
performance, either of these beauties will do it for you. I perfer
the R390 because it tunes more smoothly and overall has a smoother
feel. On the air performance is similar in both, and of course both
have the famous mechanical dial.


The RF performance on these radios cannot be beat. In my office at work
I have a Watkins-Johnson HF system that cost the government a few tens of
thousands of dollars and directly digitizes the IF for digital filtering
and demodulation. The R-390A is better at pulling weak signals out of
the trash (although the panadaptor display on the Watkins-Johnson is hard to
beat).

The problem with the R390 is that the audio quality just stinks. Great for
DXing, not good for casual shortwave listening. The filters ring like mad
and the distortion on the output stage is way too high for my taste. There
are some aftermarket AF decks for these but they don't solve the real problems.

But, my god, they pull stuff out of nowhere. And once they are warmed up,
they are stable enough to stay tuned on a RTTY station for weeks.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Mike Andrews October 29th 03 04:02 PM

Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote:
the SX28 and 28A were designed in the 30s.

I also own both an R390 and an R390A. If you want the ultimate in AM
performance, either of these beauties will do it for you. I perfer
the R390 because it tunes more smoothly and overall has a smoother
feel. On the air performance is similar in both, and of course both
have the famous mechanical dial.


The RF performance on these radios cannot be beat. In my office at work
I have a Watkins-Johnson HF system that cost the government a few tens of
thousands of dollars and directly digitizes the IF for digital filtering
and demodulation. The R-390A is better at pulling weak signals out of
the trash (although the panadaptor display on the Watkins-Johnson is hard to
beat).


The problem with the R390 is that the audio quality just stinks. Great for
DXing, not good for casual shortwave listening. The filters ring like mad
and the distortion on the output stage is way too high for my taste. There
are some aftermarket AF decks for these but they don't solve the real problems.


But, my god, they pull stuff out of nowhere. And once they are warmed up,
they are stable enough to stay tuned on a RTTY station for weeks.


I throw my lot in with Scott on the R-390/R-390A for stability and
sensitivity. It's all technology that I understand, but it sure is
a lot like magic.

I don't have the reservations about fidelity and distortion that
he does: they sound about as good as my Yaesu FRG-100 and my Icom
PCR-1000.

Anyone who wants to give (or lend) me a recent-model WJ receiver is
welcome to do so; I'll happily do A/B comparisons for a year or two.

--
Mike Andrews, once WN5EGO, and hoping to be W5EGO

Tired old sysadmin


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:29 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com