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Bruce Lane January 24th 05 12:21 AM

Anyone know who made this?
 
In article . net,
says...

Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW



begin 666 comp1.jpg
M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0$`R #(``#_VP!#``,"`@,"`@,#`P,$`P,$!0@%!00$
M!0H'!P8(# H,# L*"PL-#A(0#0X1#@L+$!80$1,4%145# \7&!84&!(4%13_


snip

Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture.

Good luck identifying your unit.


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm --
www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"


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Trent Hancock January 24th 05 01:02 AM

Well, pardon the hell out of me. I'll try and not make a world shaking
mistake again on your news group!

Trent
"Bruce Lane" wrote in message
.. .
In article . net,
says...

Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW



begin 666 comp1.jpg
M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0$`R #(``#_VP!#``,"`@,"`@,#`P,$`P,$!0@%!00$
M!0H'!P8(# H,# L*"PL-#A(0#0X1#@L+$!80$1,4%145# \7&!84&!(4%13_


snip

Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture.

Good luck identifying your unit.


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm --
www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"


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Brian Goldsmith January 24th 05 01:26 AM


"Trent Hancock" wrote

Well, pardon the hell out of me. I'll try and not make a world shaking
mistake again on your news group!

***** I still cant read the gobbledegook you posted!

Brian Goldsmith.



Michael Black January 24th 05 02:04 AM


"Trent Hancock" ) writes:
Well, pardon the hell out of me. I'll try and not make a world shaking
mistake again on your news group!

Trent


It's not his newsgroup, but he's telling you the proper way to deal
with this. It has nothing to do with this newsgroup, it has everything
to do with every newsgroup.

Take note that here, your message didn't even arrive. It was a binary
post, and the newsserver didn't bother to grab it. Since binary messages
do take up a lot of space, this isn't going to be the only place that
deleted the message. Take note also that binary messages are not saved at
the google archive, so anyone who reads the newsgroup there will never see
your message.

If people don't see your message, then nobody will be able to help you.

If people don't see the binary, then there's no sense in sending it in
the first place.

YOu expected the photo to convey all the information, which some/many
will not see, yet you gave no detail in text that would take infinitely
less space than the photo. SOmeone might recognize the name, yet the
only way they'll find out is by looking at the photo.

And since were at it, what makes you think the unit is a boatanchor?
Does it use tubes?

Michael VE2BVW


"Bruce Lane" wrote in message
.. .
In article . net,
says...

Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW



begin 666 comp1.jpg
M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0$`R #(``#_VP!#``,"`@,"`@,#`P,$`P,$!0@%!00$
M!0H'!P8(# H,# L*"PL-#A(0#0X1#@L+$!80$1,4%145# \7&!84&!(4%13_


snip

Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture.

Good luck identifying your unit.


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm --
www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"


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Trent Hancock January 24th 05 04:07 AM

Did the Heathkit SB-303 use tubes? Nuff said there. The speech compressor is
housed in an aluminum cabinet painted gray, is about 5 in wide, 3 1/2 inches
tall and 7 inches deep.It has a black face panel with four knobs at the top
labeled left to right-Gain, Blanker, Level and Volume. At the bottom is a 4
pin male mic input on the left, a in/out, off/on switch in the bottom middle
and a 1/4 inch phones jack on the bottom right.

There are no names on the unit, inside or out. No model numer, serial number
or anything.

That is a basic description of what was in the picture. I posted to the
group with a picture due to the fact there were no names or any info on or
in the unit. I was not expecting to be jumped on like a piece of meat in a
lions den. Never dreamed hams could be so nasty. And I do post pics in quite
a few groups. If this one can't handle a pic for informational purposes,
what good is it? I look at it this way, if you don't like what I do, stay in
your own yard and don't look over the hedge row and I will do the same.
Thats the problem with the world today, everybody want to run something and
no one agrees on how to run it. Just ask Bill and Hillary Clinton.

And no, it does not use tubes, but one of the chips inside has a date of
1970, so it was built at the same time as many boat anchors. And yes google
does archive binary posts. Just looked at one a few minutes ago.

Trent
"Michael Black" wrote in message
...

"Trent Hancock" ) writes:
Well, pardon the hell out of me. I'll try and not make a world shaking
mistake again on your news group!

Trent


It's not his newsgroup, but he's telling you the proper way to deal
with this. It has nothing to do with this newsgroup, it has everything
to do with every newsgroup.

Take note that here, your message didn't even arrive. It was a binary
post, and the newsserver didn't bother to grab it. Since binary messages
do take up a lot of space, this isn't going to be the only place that
deleted the message. Take note also that binary messages are not saved at
the google archive, so anyone who reads the newsgroup there will never see
your message.

If people don't see your message, then nobody will be able to help you.

If people don't see the binary, then there's no sense in sending it in
the first place.

YOu expected the photo to convey all the information, which some/many
will not see, yet you gave no detail in text that would take infinitely
less space than the photo. SOmeone might recognize the name, yet the
only way they'll find out is by looking at the photo.

And since were at it, what makes you think the unit is a boatanchor?
Does it use tubes?

Michael VE2BVW


"Bruce Lane" wrote in message
.. .
In article . net,
says...

Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW



begin 666 comp1.jpg
M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0$`R #(``#_VP!#``,"`@,"`@,#`P,$`P,$!0@%!00$
M!0H'!P8(# H,# L*"PL-#A(0#0X1#@L+$!80$1,4%145# \7&!84&!(4%13_

snip

Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture.

Good luck identifying your unit.


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm --
www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"


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KU4YP January 24th 05 04:12 AM

waste bandwidth?

all the below b/s and nobody has helped the guy out yet. ever heard of
a helpful, friendly email? oh, i forgot, that won't publicly embarrass
the guy.

and friend, to attempt to answer your question, i would start by taking
off the covers and looking inside. from the picture, i can't identify
the unit, maybe the inside will give you some clues. markings on parts,
etc. also, possibly matching the circuit to something out of a handbook.
just a thought.

i would not rule out a VERY nice homebrew unit. granted, the nice front
panel may be a stretch. but if the looks place in the 1960'/70's range,
there were some very talented amateurs doing homebrew back then. it is
also true that many small outfits were making modulators and speech
processors.

i know it's nothing definite, but maybe a place to start. all the best
and good luck.

Mike Prevatt
KU4YP


Michael Black wrote:


"Trent Hancock" ) writes:

Well, pardon the hell out of me. I'll try and not make a world shaking
mistake again on your news group!

Trent



It's not his newsgroup, but he's telling you the proper way to deal
with this. It has nothing to do with this newsgroup, it has everything
to do with every newsgroup.

Take note that here, your message didn't even arrive. It was a binary
post, and the newsserver didn't bother to grab it. Since binary messages
do take up a lot of space, this isn't going to be the only place that
deleted the message. Take note also that binary messages are not saved at
the google archive, so anyone who reads the newsgroup there will never see
your message.

If people don't see your message, then nobody will be able to help you.

If people don't see the binary, then there's no sense in sending it in
the first place.

YOu expected the photo to convey all the information, which some/many
will not see, yet you gave no detail in text that would take infinitely
less space than the photo. SOmeone might recognize the name, yet the
only way they'll find out is by looking at the photo.

And since were at it, what makes you think the unit is a boatanchor?
Does it use tubes?

Michael VE2BVW



"Bruce Lane" wrote in message
...

In article . net,
says...


Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW



begin 666 comp1.jpg
M_]C_X `02D9)1@`!`0$`R #(``#_VP!#``,"`@,"`@,#`P,$`P,$!0@%!00$
M!0H'!P8(# H,# L*"PL-#A(0#0X1#@L+$!80$1,4%145# \7&!84&!(4%13_

snip

Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture.

Good luck identifying your unit.


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm -- www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"


----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet


News==----

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Newsgroups

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Ed Price January 24th 05 07:45 AM


"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
nk.net...

Did the Heathkit SB-303 use tubes? Nuff said there.


And no, it does not use tubes,


Trent



And somehow, this makes sense to you?

Ed
wb6wsn


Stan Barr January 24th 05 09:01 AM

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:02:07 GMT, Trent Hancock wrote:
Well, pardon the hell out of me. I'll try and not make a world shaking
mistake again on your news group!


I should also point out that many ISPs, including mine, don't forward news
containing binaries unless they're to a binary newsgroup. As my ISP provides
a news feed to a quite a few other news servers it meant your message didn't
even reach us.

--
Cheers,
Stan Barr stanb .at. dial .dot. pipex .dot. com
(Remove any digits from the addresses when mailing me.)

The future was never like this!

Trent Hancock January 24th 05 12:15 PM

Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This does not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land as hard.

Trent
KR4UW
"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:LI1Jd.94$Jt.71@fed1read02...

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
nk.net...

Did the Heathkit SB-303 use tubes? Nuff said there.


And no, it does not use tubes,


Trent



And somehow, this makes sense to you?

Ed
wb6wsn




Ed Price January 25th 05 10:48 AM


"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW
"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:LI1Jd.94$Jt.71@fed1read02...

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
nk.net...

Did the Heathkit SB-303 use tubes? Nuff said there.


And no, it does not use tubes,


Trent



And somehow, this makes sense to you?

Ed
wb6wsn




You may define equipment as you wish; however, your wishes are not
universally accepted fact.

I will take your advice about parachutes; you are obviously an expert on
inverted hard landings.

Ed
wb6wsn


[email protected] January 25th 05 05:13 PM


Ed Price wrote:
"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat

anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a

boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This

does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land

as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW



Trent - your response to the first post, which was written in a polite
and helpful tone, nor your responses to subsequent posts, does not
motivate one to go out of the way to help you.

Nevertheless, as it appears that it's probably a homebrew unit, I
recommend you open the cover and see what chip(s) it uses, then do some
research to reverse-engineer it. I have several pieces of homebrew
equipment that you'd swear were factory made - but in the case of a
synthesized VFO, the fact that it was the subject of a QST article back
in the 1960s was the only thing that gave it away as a homebrew unit of
extraordinary quality.

Signetics made some compressor/compandor chips back in the 1970s and
1980s - IIRC the NE571 is one such IC.

Good luck and 73, John W3JN


Trent Hancock January 26th 05 12:40 AM

My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained. Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group. I left chicken band in the
early 90's to escape the rude ill mannered people that were there and became
a ham due to what I heard on the bands. People talked with each other and
did not use foul language and call names and were polite. That is why I came
to the group to try and get some information on a piece of equipment. The
first response was a "YOU DID A NO-NO". What was written you may call
polite, but I beg to differ. The Usenet is just that, a Usenet. It is for
all of us to use and not for a select few to control.

On another note, I did open it up and it uses Motorola chips which I can not
cross. The dates on the chips are 1970 and it appears to operate off 15
volts using two 7 1/2 volt batteries. I did get it to operating and it seems
to work well on my Drake TR-4 and my SB-401. Got good reports and much
better PEP with little clipping.

Thanks for the help and I am sorry for blowing off some steam, but I am the
type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will jump back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.

Trent
wrote in message
oups.com...

Ed Price wrote:
"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat

anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a

boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This

does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land

as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW



Trent - your response to the first post, which was written in a polite
and helpful tone, nor your responses to subsequent posts, does not
motivate one to go out of the way to help you.

Nevertheless, as it appears that it's probably a homebrew unit, I
recommend you open the cover and see what chip(s) it uses, then do some
research to reverse-engineer it. I have several pieces of homebrew
equipment that you'd swear were factory made - but in the case of a
synthesized VFO, the fact that it was the subject of a QST article back
in the 1960s was the only thing that gave it away as a homebrew unit of
extraordinary quality.

Signetics made some compressor/compandor chips back in the 1970s and
1980s - IIRC the NE571 is one such IC.

Good luck and 73, John W3JN




Brian Goldsmith January 26th 05 01:43 AM


"Trent Hancock" wrote

I am the type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will jump
back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.


***You great pillock,just what do you think the following cut and paste of
the first reply to your post to is?
He couldn't have been more instructive or polite,he even wrote"please".

Bruce Lane wrote:-
"Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture."


Your arrogance is astounding!!

Bah.HUMBUG!!!!


Brian Goldsmith.





Trent Hancock January 26th 05 12:03 PM

THANK YOU!
"Brian Goldsmith" wrote in message
...

"Trent Hancock" wrote

I am the type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will

jump
back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take

kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.


***You great pillock,just what do you think the following cut and paste of
the first reply to your post to is?
He couldn't have been more instructive or polite,he even wrote"please".

Bruce Lane wrote:-
"Please don't post binaries to a text-only newsgroup. There are a
number of reasons for this, including (but not limited to):

(1) Many people, particularly outside the U.S., use a text-based
reader for Usenet that cannot handle binary images. Your encoded
information would have shown up as page after page of text gibberish to
them, which puts a real crimp in the possibility that someone overseas
might know an answer to your question.

(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
Usenet hierarchy expect them to stay that way.

(3) Perhaps most important: There are many folks, again outside
the U.S., who may not be able to get anything other than a dialup pay-
per-kilobyte-downloaded Internet hookup. By posting a binary to a non-
binary group, you are forcing them to download something that they may
not want to see, and that increases their connection cost.

The correct way to handle what you did here would have been to
post the picture of the device on a web site, then include a link in
your Usenet posting that points towards the picture."


Your arrogance is astounding!!

Bah.HUMBUG!!!!


Brian Goldsmith.







Brian Goldsmith January 26th 05 12:29 PM


"Trent Hancock" top posted (another news group NO
NO)

THANK YOU!


*** I wonder if the email address is real?Nah,nobody could be that stupid-or
could they?

Brian Goldsmith.





Doug Adair January 26th 05 12:40 PM

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:02:07 GMT, "Trent Hancock"
wrote:

Well, pardon the hell out of me. I'll try and not make a world shaking
mistake again on your news group!

Trent


Hey trent handcock....go suck some more ******
cock at the truckstop handoncock sissy.

























"Bruce Lane" wrote in message
. ..
In article . net,
says...

Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW



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(2) It wastes bandwidth. ISPs who carry the non-binary side of the
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Doug Adair January 26th 05 12:42 PM

Well now you learned something handcock faggot. Go
slurp more cum at the truckstop ya limpwristed
sissy.




On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:40:40 GMT, "Trent Hancock"
wrote:

My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained. Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group. I left chicken band in the
early 90's to escape the rude ill mannered people that were there and became
a ham due to what I heard on the bands. People talked with each other and
did not use foul language and call names and were polite. That is why I came
to the group to try and get some information on a piece of equipment. The
first response was a "YOU DID A NO-NO". What was written you may call
polite, but I beg to differ. The Usenet is just that, a Usenet. It is for
all of us to use and not for a select few to control.

On another note, I did open it up and it uses Motorola chips which I can not
cross. The dates on the chips are 1970 and it appears to operate off 15
volts using two 7 1/2 volt batteries. I did get it to operating and it seems
to work well on my Drake TR-4 and my SB-401. Got good reports and much
better PEP with little clipping.

Thanks for the help and I am sorry for blowing off some steam, but I am the
type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will jump back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.

Trent
wrote in message
roups.com...

Ed Price wrote:
"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat

anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a

boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This

does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land

as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW



Trent - your response to the first post, which was written in a polite
and helpful tone, nor your responses to subsequent posts, does not
motivate one to go out of the way to help you.

Nevertheless, as it appears that it's probably a homebrew unit, I
recommend you open the cover and see what chip(s) it uses, then do some
research to reverse-engineer it. I have several pieces of homebrew
equipment that you'd swear were factory made - but in the case of a
synthesized VFO, the fact that it was the subject of a QST article back
in the 1960s was the only thing that gave it away as a homebrew unit of
extraordinary quality.

Signetics made some compressor/compandor chips back in the 1970s and
1980s - IIRC the NE571 is one such IC.

Good luck and 73, John W3JN



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Simon January 26th 05 01:27 PM

Doug

It looks as if you have a ham call but I assume it is a fake email
address as I don't expect this sort of language from a licenced ham -
at least in VK, where this sort of language is confined to CB, but
maybe the US is different.

Simon VK2UA

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:42:28 -0500, Doug Adair wrote:

Well now you learned something handcock faggot. Go
slurp more cum at the truckstop ya limpwristed
sissy.




On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:40:40 GMT, "Trent Hancock"
wrote:

My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained. Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group. I left chicken band in the
early 90's to escape the rude ill mannered people that were there and became
a ham due to what I heard on the bands. People talked with each other and
did not use foul language and call names and were polite. That is why I came
to the group to try and get some information on a piece of equipment. The
first response was a "YOU DID A NO-NO". What was written you may call
polite, but I beg to differ. The Usenet is just that, a Usenet. It is for
all of us to use and not for a select few to control.

On another note, I did open it up and it uses Motorola chips which I can not
cross. The dates on the chips are 1970 and it appears to operate off 15
volts using two 7 1/2 volt batteries. I did get it to operating and it seems
to work well on my Drake TR-4 and my SB-401. Got good reports and much
better PEP with little clipping.

Thanks for the help and I am sorry for blowing off some steam, but I am the
type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will jump back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.

Trent
wrote in message
groups.com...

Ed Price wrote:
"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat
anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a
boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This
does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land
as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW


Trent - your response to the first post, which was written in a polite
and helpful tone, nor your responses to subsequent posts, does not
motivate one to go out of the way to help you.

Nevertheless, as it appears that it's probably a homebrew unit, I
recommend you open the cover and see what chip(s) it uses, then do some
research to reverse-engineer it. I have several pieces of homebrew
equipment that you'd swear were factory made - but in the case of a
synthesized VFO, the fact that it was the subject of a QST article back
in the 1960s was the only thing that gave it away as a homebrew unit of
extraordinary quality.

Signetics made some compressor/compandor chips back in the 1970s and
1980s - IIRC the NE571 is one such IC.

Good luck and 73, John W3JN



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Doug Adair January 26th 05 01:35 PM

Simon sez you're full of ****. My email addy works
just fine asshole. Flip that wrist, sissy.


On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:27:55 +1100, Simon
wrote:

Doug

It looks as if you have a ham call but I assume it is a fake email
address as I don't expect this sort of language from a licenced ham -
at least in VK, where this sort of language is confined to CB, but
maybe the US is different.

Simon VK2UA

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:42:28 -0500, Doug Adair wrote:

Well now you learned something handcock faggot. Go
slurp more cum at the truckstop ya limpwristed
sissy.




On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:40:40 GMT, "Trent Hancock"
wrote:

My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained. Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group. I left chicken band in the
early 90's to escape the rude ill mannered people that were there and became
a ham due to what I heard on the bands. People talked with each other and
did not use foul language and call names and were polite. That is why I came
to the group to try and get some information on a piece of equipment. The
first response was a "YOU DID A NO-NO". What was written you may call
polite, but I beg to differ. The Usenet is just that, a Usenet. It is for
all of us to use and not for a select few to control.

On another note, I did open it up and it uses Motorola chips which I can not
cross. The dates on the chips are 1970 and it appears to operate off 15
volts using two 7 1/2 volt batteries. I did get it to operating and it seems
to work well on my Drake TR-4 and my SB-401. Got good reports and much
better PEP with little clipping.

Thanks for the help and I am sorry for blowing off some steam, but I am the
type of person, that when jumped at with no explanation, will jump back. If
I do something wrong, tell me what I did wrong and ask me not to do it
again. Go the other way and I can get very hard headed. I don't take kindly
to being TOLD what I will do.

Trent
wrote in message
egroups.com...

Ed Price wrote:
"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
Perfect sense sir. Neither use tubes, but are considered boat
anchors. If
the use of tubes were the only determining factor as to if it was a
boat
anchor, then all currently mfgd. amplifiers are boat anchors. This
does
not
make sense.

Try putting a chute on the next time you jump and you will not land
as
hard.

Trent
KR4UW


Trent - your response to the first post, which was written in a polite
and helpful tone, nor your responses to subsequent posts, does not
motivate one to go out of the way to help you.

Nevertheless, as it appears that it's probably a homebrew unit, I
recommend you open the cover and see what chip(s) it uses, then do some
research to reverse-engineer it. I have several pieces of homebrew
equipment that you'd swear were factory made - but in the case of a
synthesized VFO, the fact that it was the subject of a QST article back
in the 1960s was the only thing that gave it away as a homebrew unit of
extraordinary quality.

Signetics made some compressor/compandor chips back in the 1970s and
1980s - IIRC the NE571 is one such IC.

Good luck and 73, John W3JN



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Scott Dorsey January 26th 05 02:41 PM

Trent Hancock wrote:
My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained. Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.


It's explained in news.announce.newusers. NONE of the big eight groups allow
any binaries. This is just so fundamental that anyone who has been through
the introductory material in news.announce.newusers has been told a dozen
times about this. Posting binaries to discussion groups is about the most
rude possible thing you can do on Usenet.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.


This "net" is just part of the big eight. If you did something equivalently
boneheaded to any of the other big eight groups you would have got a similar
response.

I'd mail this to you, but you seem to have some sort of goofy challenge/response
mail system.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Trent Hancock January 27th 05 07:54 AM

It is called a spam blocker and junk mail blocker.

Trent
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Trent Hancock wrote:
My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all

text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained.

Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.


It's explained in news.announce.newusers. NONE of the big eight groups

allow
any binaries. This is just so fundamental that anyone who has been

through
the introductory material in news.announce.newusers has been told a dozen
times about this. Posting binaries to discussion groups is about the most
rude possible thing you can do on Usenet.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of

turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.


This "net" is just part of the big eight. If you did something

equivalently
boneheaded to any of the other big eight groups you would have got a

similar
response.

I'd mail this to you, but you seem to have some sort of goofy

challenge/response
mail system.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."




Brian Goldsmith January 27th 05 10:21 AM


"Trent Hancock" wrote

It is called a spam blocker and junk mail blocker.



*** What a pity,it didn't work on your failed attempt to wrongly post to
this list!!!!!!!

Brian Goldsmith.



Trent Hancock January 27th 05 06:10 PM

Works perfect, lets me do what I want, but keeps you out!

Trent
"Brian Goldsmith" wrote in message
...

"Trent Hancock" wrote

It is called a spam blocker and junk mail blocker.



*** What a pity,it didn't work on your failed attempt to wrongly post to
this list!!!!!!!

Brian Goldsmith.





W4UDX January 28th 05 12:38 PM

I remember seeing ads for this unit in old QST magazines (you know, the
little ones...). I believe it was made by a small obscure company as a
speech processsor for the Collins KWM-2 radio gear. Maybe early Autek stuff?



"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW







W4UDX January 28th 05 12:49 PM

Trent,
I looked it up and I think it's a DX Engineering speech processor. They
made 2 units, one for Collins 32-Sx transmitters, and one for the KWM-2
transceivers. Here are the model numbers:

LC-1-32S (for transmiiters)
RF LC-2-TR (for transceivers)

I believe the "RF" model is a true RF speech processor, while the other one
is just an audio compressor.
Hope this helps....

73
Mark W4UDX


"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW







Edward Knobloch January 28th 05 04:46 PM

Mark, it's not a DX Engineering rf speech processor for Collins.
Those units were installed internal to the Collins equipment.
(You removed an i.f. amplifier tube, plugged the DX Engineering
device into the empty tube socket, and then plugged
the i.f. amplifier tube into the new socket on the DX Engineering device).

Trent's mystery device looks similar to a Comdel CSP-11
speech processor, but only because it uses the same cabinet
made by LMB.

The type of mic jack looks like that on a Drake TR-7.
I would guess this was a nice home-brew equivalent
of the Drake SP-75 speech processor,
with a headphone jack and volume control added for adjustment by ear.

73,
Ed Knobloch

W4UDX wrote:
Trent,
I looked it up and I think it's a DX Engineering speech processor. They
made 2 units, one for Collins 32-Sx transmitters, and one for the KWM-2
transceivers. Here are the model numbers:

LC-1-32S (for transmiiters)
RF LC-2-TR (for transceivers)

I believe the "RF" model is a true RF speech processor, while the other one
is just an audio compressor.
Hope this helps....

73
Mark W4UDX



W4UDX January 28th 05 11:09 PM

That's right! I forgot about that. They did install internally. I am pretty
sure I saw old ads for that compressor...


"Edward Knobloch" wrote in message
news:70uKd.132$me4.69@trndny04...
Mark, it's not a DX Engineering rf speech processor for Collins.
Those units were installed internal to the Collins equipment.
(You removed an i.f. amplifier tube, plugged the DX Engineering
device into the empty tube socket, and then plugged
the i.f. amplifier tube into the new socket on the DX Engineering device).

Trent's mystery device looks similar to a Comdel CSP-11
speech processor, but only because it uses the same cabinet
made by LMB.

The type of mic jack looks like that on a Drake TR-7.
I would guess this was a nice home-brew equivalent
of the Drake SP-75 speech processor,
with a headphone jack and volume control added for adjustment by ear.

73,
Ed Knobloch

W4UDX wrote:
Trent,
I looked it up and I think it's a DX Engineering speech processor. They
made 2 units, one for Collins 32-Sx transmitters, and one for the KWM-2
transceivers. Here are the model numbers:

LC-1-32S (for transmiiters)
RF LC-2-TR (for transceivers)

I believe the "RF" model is a true RF speech processor, while the other
one is just an audio compressor.
Hope this helps....

73
Mark W4UDX





Ed Price January 30th 05 12:20 AM


"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all
text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained.
Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of
turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group.



I'm not playing net-cop so much as logic enforcer. My News server trimmed
your attachment before I ever saw anything, so it's nothing to me.

However, YOU have a few problems, and they could be illuminated just by you
reading your own postings. You claim to be a long-term Usenet user, yet you
jump in and post a binary to a non-binary group. This is equivalent to
transmitting before checking the frequency. Doesn't say much for your
courtesy, experience or common sense.

But your real problem is humility; you just can't say something simple like
"oops, sorry". No, you have to hang in there and chew it death. And all the
while, new issues keep being added and the hostility level is ratcheting up,
and you're just displaying what an ass you are.

This isn't a good ol' boy issue; it's simply that this group doesn't easily
suffer the rude, ignorant, profane and hostile.

Ed
wb6wsn





KU4YP January 31st 05 10:08 PM

Ed Price wrote:

it's simply that this group doesn't
easily suffer the rude, ignorant, profane and hostile.

Ed
wb6wsn





i don't think i'd get too far out on that limb........................

73 ku4yp

Trent Hancock February 2nd 05 06:38 PM

In a reply to an e-mail I received from a reader of this group, I wrote the
following:

I have been a user of newsgroups since early 1991. Most users today are not
aware there was an internet then! We did not have Netscape, Internet
Explorer and Mozilla then. We relied on many other means to access the
internet. At that time, as is customary today, binary files continue to be
posted in many usegroups. Just because I was new to this paticular group, I
was hammered because I posted a genuine post asking for some help. What did
I get besides flames? There are some who replied to my question without
showing their bottom side and to them I give many thanks.

The usegroups are free for all to use and under the control of no one
individual or group of people. It was devised to operate in this manner to
prevent the very thing that happened to me from happening! Those guys are
just showing their true colors and I now realize they are to be ignored and
placed on the refuge heap with their comments!

Thanks,

Trent

KR4UW

And this is my last post dealing with this issue. My stance remains as it
was then and is now, the same!

"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:iLVKd.14$xt.7@fed1read07...

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all
text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained.
Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty

messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of
turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group.



I'm not playing net-cop so much as logic enforcer. My News server trimmed
your attachment before I ever saw anything, so it's nothing to me.

However, YOU have a few problems, and they could be illuminated just by

you
reading your own postings. You claim to be a long-term Usenet user, yet

you
jump in and post a binary to a non-binary group. This is equivalent to
transmitting before checking the frequency. Doesn't say much for your
courtesy, experience or common sense.

But your real problem is humility; you just can't say something simple

like
"oops, sorry". No, you have to hang in there and chew it death. And all

the
while, new issues keep being added and the hostility level is ratcheting

up,
and you're just displaying what an ass you are.

This isn't a good ol' boy issue; it's simply that this group doesn't

easily
suffer the rude, ignorant, profane and hostile.

Ed
wb6wsn







KC8QJP February 2nd 05 07:58 PM

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:38:36 GMT, "Trent Hancock"
wrote:


Trent Hand-cock. What a faggot name!
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Dbowey February 2nd 05 08:39 PM

the trolliam posted:

In a reply to an e-mail I received from a reader of this group, I wrote the
following:

I have been a user of newsgroups since early 1991. Most users today are not
aware there was an internet then! We did not have Netscape, Internet
Explorer and Mozilla then. We relied on many other means to access the
internet. At that time, as is customary today, binary files continue to be
posted in many usegroups. Just because I was new to this paticular group, I
was hammered because I posted a genuine post asking for some help. What did
I get besides flames? There are some who replied to my question without
showing their bottom side and to them I give many thanks.

The usegroups are free for all to use and under the control of no one
individual or group of people. It was devised to operate in this manner to
prevent the very thing that happened to me from happening! Those guys are
just showing their true colors and I now realize they are to be ignored and
placed on the refuge heap with their comments!

Thanks,

Trent

KR4UW

And this is my last post dealing with this issue. My stance remains as it
was then and is now, the same!

"Ed Price" wrote in message
news:iLVKd.14$xt.7@fed1read07...

"Trent Hancock" wrote in message
ink.net...
My problem with the whole mess was this: I had no idea this was an all
text,
no binary format news group. No where was this written or explained.
Another
fact is: there are other pics listed in this group, but no nasty

messages
posted to them.

As it appeared to me at the time, I had invaded a good old boys plot of
turf
and was being told I was not welcome. I have been a user of the Usenet
system for years and have never been treated as I have been on this net.
Does not say much for the users of this group.



I'm not playing net-cop so much as logic enforcer. My News server trimmed
your attachment before I ever saw anything, so it's nothing to me.

However, YOU have a few problems, and they could be illuminated just by

you
reading your own postings. You claim to be a long-term Usenet user, yet

you
jump in and post a binary to a non-binary group. This is equivalent to
transmitting before checking the frequency. Doesn't say much for your
courtesy, experience or common sense.

But your real problem is humility; you just can't say something simple

like
"oops, sorry". No, you have to hang in there and chew it death. And all

the
while, new issues keep being added and the hostility level is ratcheting

up,
and you're just displaying what an ass you are.

This isn't a good ol' boy issue; it's simply that this group doesn't

easily
suffer the rude, ignorant, profane and hostile.

Ed
wb6wsn


It's too bad you learned nothing. Top posting is still not the preferred
method to use. But then, the troll in your name says it all, I guess.

In my opinion you are being unnecessarily belligerent and you will continue to
be met in kind .



Cmd Buzz Corey February 10th 05 04:13 AM

Trent Hancock wrote:

In a reply to an e-mail I received from a reader of this group, I wrote the
following:

I have been a user of newsgroups since early 1991. Most users today are not
aware there was an internet then! We did not have Netscape, Internet
Explorer and Mozilla then. We relied on many other means to access the
internet. At that time, as is customary today, binary files continue to be
posted in many usegroups. Just because I was new to this paticular group, I
was hammered because I posted a genuine post asking for some help. What did
I get besides flames? There are some who replied to my question without
showing their bottom side and to them I give many thanks.

The usegroups are free for all to use and under the control of no one
individual or group of people. It was devised to operate in this manner to
prevent the very thing that happened to me from happening! Those guys are
just showing their true colors and I now realize they are to be ignored and
placed on the refuge heap with their comments!

Thanks,

Trent


Well, no one can force you from it, but it is against Usenet convention
to post binary files to non-binary groups. There are good reasons for
it. There are binary groups set up for that purpose and it is very easy
to point to your binary file that is posted to a binary group, and any
gentleman would be more than happy to abide by that convention.


Scott Dorsey February 10th 05 04:05 PM

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Well, no one can force you from it, but it is against Usenet convention
to post binary files to non-binary groups. There are good reasons for
it. There are binary groups set up for that purpose and it is very easy
to point to your binary file that is posted to a binary group, and any
gentleman would be more than happy to abide by that convention.


Yes, folks CAN force you. Your news admin can refuse to allow service to
you (or refuse to allow binary posting), and the site downstream can refuse
to accept traffic from your site if that does not take place.

These sorts of things don't happen today except in pretty egregious cases,
which is what has driven a lot of backbone sites just to drop all binaries
to discussion groups themselves.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

RadioGuy March 20th 05 02:26 AM


Trent Hancock wrote in message
ink.net...
Anyone know who made this speech compressor and maybe even what type
batteries it uses?

Thanks in advance,

Trent Hancock
KR4UW


Yes... I tend to agree... it sure looks like a Comdel speech processor (LMB
Box)---but I thought the Comdel name was on the front panel and had
different knobs... Check out the product review on the Comdel CPS-11 on the
ARRL website (I am not a member so I can't download it).

The Comdel was an exceedingly effective processor. It might be called an RF
speech processor (that's what Comdel claimed) since it took the mic audio,
convert it to an RF signal, process it, then demodulated it---output was
again an audio frequency.

A buddy WA9ZPR (where is he now) back in the late 1970's used one. That's
how I got to know him (we became ham buddies and had many skeds)... he was
on 20 meters as the band was about to go out demonstrating it to another ham
as I was listening. He would go from complete no copy to solid copy as he
would switch the device in and out.

RG




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