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This guy makes me sick! Rips apart GOOD rigs to sell the parts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. "Ready to install part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that effect. I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So you can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks he's clever and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit. Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll see what I mean. Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his radio and he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it. JOE |
His father was one of those hams who never paid any attention
to the kids because he was "playing radio." This is what he does for "therapy" ;-) JOE wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51 This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51 "Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll see what I mean. Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his radio and he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it." --- It really is too bad. I didn't count how many rigs in his list of items for sale have gone as parts, but it was a lot. On the other hand, he must be filling a need or the items wouldn't sell and he would go broke. It's a mixed bag. Don |
Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
Well, it makes some sense to me.....the parts from one rig can improve or
repair several. Besides, it is his rig and if he wants to part it out to sell so he can make more money out of it, power to him.....this is American free enterprise in action. Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. 73, Phil "JOE" wrote in message news.com... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51 This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. "Ready to install part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that effect. I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So you can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks he's clever and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit. Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll see what I mean. Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his radio and he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it. JOE |
Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts,
but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... Lou "JOE" wrote in message news.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
Well, I can't say I've sensed a shortage of HW-101s in ANY condition. I'd
hate to tell you how many get left in the dumper at the hamfest after NOBODY buys them. The SB-303 is a somewhat different story. I doubt that anybody is going to get rich doing this. Too, try to sell a "working perfectly" rig that has had holes drilled in it or some such. Most collectors will pay more for good cosmetics than they will for working units. The electronics are easy to fix and out of sight, but a cabinet that's all beat up and full of holes is a hard repair. "Lou" wrote in message ... Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... Lou "JOE" wrote in message news.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
Lou wrote:
Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped apart sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console ourselves with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd think that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor sets--would be worth more. jak Lou "JOE" wrote in message news.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at a
time. jakdedert wrote: Lou wrote: Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped apart sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console ourselves with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd think that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor sets--would be worth more. jak Lou "JOE" wrote in message etnews.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address for
my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to put food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd to tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say. There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to by pass common sense though - in many cases. Lou wrote in message ... Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at a time. jakdedert wrote: Lou wrote: Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped apart sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console ourselves with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd think that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor sets--would be worth more. jak Lou "JOE" wrote in message etnews.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
JOE wrote:
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. Etc. Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been consigned to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing? That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser. -- John Miller, thinking now of parting out a perfectly good Tek 465B Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm The party adjourned to a hot tub, yes. Fully clothed, I might add. -IBM employee, testifying in California State Supreme Court |
Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he had
a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd. Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and destroying a limited resource. Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles too.... "Lou" wrote in message ... And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address for my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to put food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd to tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say. There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to by pass common sense though - in many cases. Lou wrote in message ... Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at a time. jakdedert wrote: Lou wrote: Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped apart sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console ourselves with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd think that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor sets--would be worth more. jak Lou "JOE" wrote in message etnews.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
"I" am not defending it "entirely", but if the man pays for it, it is his to
do with as he pleases! As the anonymous one wrote to me, He is putting food on his table by doing so. That is HIS words, not mine. I only tore my **** apart because it was TOO BIG to ship and it was more acceptable to be sold by parts, which I DID do. ALL sold in a couple weeks. It was a USED item though. IF the guy feels it will bring in more to him dead than alive, that is his prerogative. It doesn't mean I, you or anyone else has to agree or disagree. It's his ****, he'll do with it as he pleases. Our opinions don't really mean dick in the end. Lou "JOE" wrote in message news.com... Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he had a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd. Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and destroying a limited resource. Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles too.... "Lou" wrote in message ... And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address for my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to put food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd to tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say. There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to by pass common sense though - in many cases. Lou wrote in message ... Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at a time. jakdedert wrote: Lou wrote: Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped apart sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console ourselves with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd think that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor sets--would be worth more. jak Lou "JOE" wrote in message etnews.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
Duh, go look in the mirror....your the loony tune here....
"JOE" wrote in message news.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
"JOE" wrote in message news.com... Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he had a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd. Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and destroying a limited resource. There seems to be a very limited resource instide your head there Joeboy! The fact remains that these are his radios and he can dump them in the ocean if he wants to. If he wants to make a bit of money by taking them apart that is his choice. Now go crawl back into your hole. Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles too.... "Lou" wrote in message ... And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address for my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to put food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd to tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say. There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to by pass common sense though - in many cases. Lou wrote in message ... Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at a time. jakdedert wrote: Lou wrote: Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped apart sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console ourselves with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd think that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor sets--would be worth more. jak Lou "JOE" wrote in message etnews.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
Killing Bald Eagles is a completely different issue. We are talking old
electronic junk in whatever form it is in that is all it is period. If you think it is something other than that then I believe you had better get a life. John JOE wrote: Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he had a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd. Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and destroying a limited resource. Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles too.... "Lou" wrote in message ... And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address for my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to put food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd to tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say. There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to by pass common sense though - in many cases. Lou wrote in message ... Parts are always worth more then the hole try buying a car a piece at a time. jakdedert wrote: Lou wrote: Not that I agree with stripping a "working" unit apart to sell the parts, but I have seen cases where an item was "close" to working condition, but to put money into it to get it to work was more expensive than had the person stripped it and sold it for parts - as the parts for that particular unit were hard to find and not necessarily cheap. The only time I've stripped working items to sell parts from, is if I could not sell it whole, or it was too expensive to ship and I found people interested in buying the parts. I did quite well that way. Maybe this guy "feels" he can make more parting it out than it is worth! This guy may have an axe to grind.. Maybe he doesn't like Ham and this is his revenge - or as another stated, his therapy. Who knows what may be the driving force...... I can understand the emotion. Seeing something perfectly good ripped apart sets my teeth on edge as well. I guess we all have to console ourselves with the idea that those parts will go on to make any number of 'not working' sets 'perfectly good' again...although given an option, I'd think that an original--not cobbled together with parts from donor sets--would be worth more. jak Lou "JOE" wrote in message ganetnews.com... Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! |
"John Miller" wrote in message ... JOE wrote: This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. Etc. Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been consigned to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing? That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser. It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a "pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition. BTW, 465s are a dime a dozen, not rare, and there are already hundreds of parts units available from dealers... I doubt you would gain financially from that venture... Pete |
I'm not a big fan of this behavior myself, BUT....
I've tried selling off my Heath HW-101 station. Works fine and decent cosmetics. I've been unable to sell it for $225, yet I see the speaker alone sell for about $100 and the power supply sell for $150. If I was like this guy, I'd sell the speaker and PS, yank out the tubes from the rig and junk it. Can't bring myself to do this so I'll keep dragging it to junkfests. Steve JOE wrote in message news.com... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51 This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. "Ready to install part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that effect. I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So you can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks he's clever and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit. Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll see what I mean. Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his radio and he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it. JOE |
first,
i always have to laugh at the "open forum" here. it's kinda like christmas as a kid, for me. you expect something new, but as always, same ****, different box. save the breath on free speech, i am done............... i can understand joe's reaction. 'most" people who frequent this group look at a junker radio and see what can be raised from the ashes. if you don't, you probably don't like boatanchors. yes, we scalp "junk" to keep the others living, however most take no pleasure in it. i, for one, am not proud of scalping old rigs. i'd like to save them all. truth is, we can't. and if i wish to continue to use and enjoy my heathkits, swans, hammarlunds..................i will have to do this from time to time. however, to take a perfectly working rig and dice it up for parts, is absurd. i can relate with joe's comments, i love old radios. any brand. for me, the monitary value does not matter. (flamers note: i said ME) i would venture to say "most" hams have one piece of equipment in the station that money simply can not buy. yes, it is his stuff. yes, he can do whatever he wants. yes, we will not stop it. blah blah blah. yes, it is sad to see. your milage may, and probably will vary. -- 73 de KU4YP Member Flying Pigs QRP Michael Prevatt #225 Bartow, Florida Member Florida Contest Group " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:rYbsc.4507$0d6.4465@lakeread03... "John Miller" wrote in message ... JOE wrote: This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. Etc. Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been consigned to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing? That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser. It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a "pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition. BTW, 465s are a dime a dozen, not rare, and there are already hundreds of parts units available from dealers... I doubt you would gain financially from that venture... Pete |
FWIW, we are talking about Ebay here! Does anyone actually believe that
a person is parting out a mint unit in the first place? Ebay is the home of " I can't find a power cord, and don't know how to hook up an antenna, so the unit is as-is" or I turned it on and the tubes light up, but don't know how to ...yada yada. Think about it. - Mike KB3EIA - Steve wrote: I'm not a big fan of this behavior myself, BUT.... I've tried selling off my Heath HW-101 station. Works fine and decent cosmetics. I've been unable to sell it for $225, yet I see the speaker alone sell for about $100 and the power supply sell for $150. If I was like this guy, I'd sell the speaker and PS, yank out the tubes from the rig and junk it. Can't bring myself to do this so I'll keep dragging it to junkfests. Steve JOE wrote in message news.com... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51 This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. "Ready to install part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that effect. I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So you can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks he's clever and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit. Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll see what I mean. Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his radio and he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it. JOE |
KU4YP wrote:
first, i always have to laugh at the "open forum" here. it's kinda like christmas as a kid, for me. you expect something new, but as always, same ****, different box. save the breath on free speech, i am done............... i can understand joe's reaction. 'most" people who frequent this group look at a junker radio and see what can be raised from the ashes. if you don't, you probably don't like boatanchors. yes, we scalp "junk" to keep the others living, however most take no pleasure in it. i, for one, am not proud of scalping old rigs. i'd like to save them all. truth is, we can't. and if i wish to continue to use and enjoy my heathkits, swans, hammarlunds..................i will have to do this from time to time. however, to take a perfectly working rig and dice it up for parts, is absurd. i can relate with joe's comments, i love old radios. any brand. for me, the monitary value does not matter. (flamers note: i said ME) i would venture to say "most" hams have one piece of equipment in the station that money simply can not buy. yes, it is his stuff. yes, he can do whatever he wants. yes, we will not stop it. blah blah blah. yes, it is sad to see. Just because it is a persons "right" to do something - and make no mistake about it, if he wants to crap in the radio, then run over it with his car - it is his to do it with. But that really doesn't make it right. A person that loves old radios would almost never tear apart a mint rig. But of course, we are talking about Ebay here. A person would do well to take any claims as to "mintness" with a big bag of salt! - Mike KB3EIA - |
Uncle Peter wrote:
It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a "pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition. I believe I understand both sides of this argument pretty well, and I don't have a dog in this fight, anyway, but just for the sake of thinking things through, rather than succumbing to assumptions... ....suppose you had one pristine radio and a dozen clunkers (total of 13, one working), and you whipped out your spreadsheet and found that you could end up with a total of six good working rigs if you left the pristine rig alone, but eight good working rigs if you parted it out. What then? -- John "hey, just asking" Miller Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's printed on." -Samuel Goldwyn |
The following is really not true. There are a lot of very nice radios on
eBay. Think of the guy that steals new cars and parts them out. Old radios have no real value to most of the population so does it really matter in 40 years or so they will all end up in the scrap yard anyway because there will be nobody around to use them and nowhere to use them . Ham radio is a dying Hobby period. I have determined there are a lot of people on this group that really do need a get a life. Robin Hood Mike Coslo wrote: FWIW, we are talking about Ebay here! Does anyone actually believe that a person is parting out a mint unit in the first place? Ebay is the home of " I can't find a power cord, and don't know how to hook up an antenna, so the unit is as-is" or I turned it on and the tubes light up, but don't know how to ...yada yada. Think about it. - Mike KB3EIA - Steve wrote: I'm not a big fan of this behavior myself, BUT.... I've tried selling off my Heath HW-101 station. Works fine and decent cosmetics. I've been unable to sell it for $225, yet I see the speaker alone sell for about $100 and the power supply sell for $150. If I was like this guy, I'd sell the speaker and PS, yank out the tubes from the rig and junk it. Can't bring myself to do this so I'll keep dragging it to junkfests. Steve JOE wrote in message news.com... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51 This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. "Ready to install part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that effect. I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So you can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks he's clever and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit. Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll see what I mean. Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his radio and he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it. JOE |
user posted:
" . Ham radio is a dying Hobby period. I have determined there are a lot of people on this group that really do need a get a life. ------ And I have decided you should be at the head of the line for a new life. Period! Don |
I am already there and it is great.
Dbowey wrote: user posted: " . Ham radio is a dying Hobby period. I have determined there are a lot of people on this group that really do need a get a life. ------ And I have decided you should be at the head of the line for a new life. Period! Don |
Why not looks like someone else is there already.
Dbowey wrote: user posted: " . Ham radio is a dying Hobby period. I have determined there are a lot of people on this group that really do need a get a life. ------ And I have decided you should be at the head of the line for a new life. Period! Don |
Is that directed at me? If so, I apologize for hitting 'reply' instead of
'reply group.' I must have been having a premature 'senior moment.' I expect they will become more common as I get more senior. jak Lou wrote: And the next time you write to my personal E-MAIL, leave a valid address for my reply. Share your comments with the group. Yes, maybe he is trying to put food on his table. No one would knock him for that. Just seems a bit odd to tear apart "working" units. That is all I think anyone is trying to say. There are reasons, I've had them as I've alluded to... It just seems to by pass common sense though - in many cases. |
KU4YP wrote:
snip however, to take a perfectly working rig and dice it up for parts, is absurd. i can relate with joe's comments, i love old radios. any brand. for me, the monitary value does not matter. (flamers note: i said ME) i would venture to say "most" hams have one piece of equipment in the station that money simply can not buy. For me, it's the Heath GR-54 mentioned just today in the thread about the AT-1. My brother and I built it while in high school...around 1966. When he passed away in 1993, I just happened to have possession...we had passed it back & forth over the years. I probably wouldn't have been able to bring it back on the airplane from Phoenix (where I went to arrange shipping of the body back to Missouri) had it been in his hands at the time. OTOH, the faceplate is cracked, and there's a knob missing...so, if anyone were parting out one--even a 'pristine, perfectly working example'--I'd be interested in those parts, and glad to have them. I guess this example represents both sides of the argument.... jak yes, it is his stuff. yes, he can do whatever he wants. yes, we will not stop it. blah blah blah. yes, it is sad to see. your milage may, and probably will vary. "John Miller" wrote in message ... JOE wrote: This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. Etc. Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been consigned to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing? That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser. It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a "pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition. BTW, 465s are a dime a dozen, not rare, and there are already hundreds of parts units available from dealers... I doubt you would gain financially from that venture... Pete |
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 17:20:27 UTC, "JOE"
wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51 This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs. "Ready to install part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that effect. I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So you can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks he's clever and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit. Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll see what I mean. Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his radio and he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it. JOE Let it go. He's kidding himself. The market is self regulating. The first time he breaks down a radio, folk who desperately need that one board, switch wafer, bezel, or knob will bid the prices of the parts way up. Last year I was in that situation for a Heath part. The second time he does it, a few bottom feeders will bid up the choice parts. That time or the third, he will saturate the market and most parts will go for less than the sum of the whole. By the time you factor in the eBay commissions, the time to break down the radio, manage the auction, and divide that into the "profit", he'd do far better to deliver pizzas or clerk at the 7-11. On the other hand, the winners are the restorers. If I need a knob or wafer switch (something hard to fabricate) I might pay ten or twenty dollars. That'd take my incomplete radio to "works great, looks great" and might double its value from say, $250 to $500. If he buys it and breaks it down, the first choice parts might go for big bucks, $10 for a knob, $20 for a wafer switch. That fools him into thinking that he has found a money machine. Pretty soon, he'll be left with a basket case, a "first fifty bucks takes it all". And so the cycle continues. But, he is providing a valuable service. It might seem like a ghoul who's grabbing young people off the street and selling their kidneys and heart to transplant surgeons but it's not. Every radio that he breaks down gives new life to perhaps a dozen others and at some point, he'll be stuck with an incomplete chassis and will lose money. He's speculating, gambling that there will be a buyer for the parts. Realize too that we are in an unusual situation. At least that's what I believe. Boat anchor radios are rising in price but the appreciation has just started. They were way undervalued. Some folk know this and are buying and restoring to preserve the history. At some point, there will be no more "I don't know what this is, but I'll take $20" deals. It will take *one* appearance of a 75A-4 or HQ-180 on an "Antiques-greed show" and overnight, every boat anchor will triple in value. This might not happen for 10 or 20 years, it might never happen but that is the nightmare that faces us. I've heard that already, there are circles of "known collectors" who will not sell radios to someone who will mistreat them. I've noticed that interesting workhorse radios have vanished from the hamfests. In the last 2 years, attending a dozen regional hamfests, I have not seen *any* Drake 2-B's, SX-101s, HT-37s, Thunderbolts, HW-monobanders, SBE-33s, Early Swans, SR-160, NCX-3, SB-200s, HQ-180s', NC-300s, NC-303s, Gonsets. The radios that have vanished are the mid-range, the ones that the average ham owned or aspired to; the radios that used to go for a hundred or a couple hundred bucks, take it. These are all locked away on the retro-shelf of private radio rooms. "Sell my SX-101? A lousy $300? That's 4 fill ups of the truck. I'm keeping it." You can still find high end stuff but not the mid-range or the low end. I've never seen an S-120, R-55, T-60, at a hamfest. "$60, that's two steak dinners? I'll take the radio and eat mac and cheese." check out my boatanchor page www.kiyoinc.com/heathstuff.html thanks and keep fixin' those anchors! |
Makes me sick, too. If you are desperate for some part, you can cruise swap
meets or bulletin boards and find a junker chassis or parts to get what you need. I have given away better stuff to fellow hobbyists than this guy is peddling to make an extra buck. Phil Nelson |
On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:11:51 GMT, "JOE"
wrote: Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit before he could disassemble it. Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up! 3? It seems the loon started this thread.... |
On Sun, 23 May 2004 21:43:06 GMT, "JOE"
wrote: Ripping apart a MINT radio (I've been watching this guy for months - he had a MINT SB-303 back a few months ago) is absurd. Defend it all you like. I still think it's just plain profiteering and destroying a limited resource. Maybe those who think this is right will allow hunting of bald eagles too.... Or selling the same gasoline for 25% higher than nationwide in San Francisco. Oops, they beat me to it. |
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