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Johnson Ranger
On a Johnson Ranger I :
With a relay added for antenna change over, what additional components are required ? How does it operate ? Wiring req'd. ? I have always used separate antennas for TX & RX and have no idea operating details. |
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Edward wrote:
On a Johnson Ranger I : With a relay added for antenna change over, what additional components are required ? How does it operate ? Wiring req'd. ? I have always used separate antennas for TX & RX and have no idea operating details. Hi, Edward The antenna relay output jack on the back of the Ranger has 115vac across the contacts when the Ranger is in c.w. mode, or a.m. mode. The voltage is not present in standby mode. If your Ranger has the optional internal push-to-talk relay modification added, then the 115vac for the antenna relay will appear in c.w. mode (at all times) or in a.m. mode only when the microphone push to talk button is pressed. You connect the Ranger's antenna relay output jack to the 115vac coil of a coaxial relay. On a Dow-Key coax relay, the coil connections are the two small pins on the metal cylinder. The coax from the transmitter rf output goes to the female coax jack opposite the coil of the Dow-Key coax relay. The receiver coax goes to the female coax connection next to the coil. The antenna coax goes to the female coax connection at the end of the coax relay. If your coax relay includes "auxillary" contacts opposite the coil, they can be used to mute your receiver. If your coax relay doesn't have auxillary contacts, you can wire another, cheap relay's 115vac coil across the coax relay coil, and use the contacts of the cheap relay to do the muting function. Some receivers are muted by opening a lead, some by closing a lead to ground. 73, Ed Knobloch |
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Thanks, Edward-
Thanks, Edward- Now I have to figure out what the relay mounted on ledge with the two small tubs is intended to do. I have problems tracing sets with no documents for revisions. On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:30:38 GMT, Edward Knobloch wrote: Edward wrote: On a Johnson Ranger I : With a relay added for antenna change over, what additional components are required ? How does it operate ? Wiring req'd. ? I have always used separate antennas for TX & RX and have no idea operating details. Hi, Edward The antenna relay output jack on the back of the Ranger has 115vac across the contacts when the Ranger is in c.w. mode, or a.m. mode. The voltage is not present in standby mode. If your Ranger has the optional internal push-to-talk relay modification added, then the 115vac for the antenna relay will appear in c.w. mode (at all times) or in a.m. mode only when the microphone push to talk button is pressed. You connect the Ranger's antenna relay output jack to the 115vac coil of a coaxial relay. On a Dow-Key coax relay, the coil connections are the two small pins on the metal cylinder. The coax from the transmitter rf output goes to the female coax jack opposite the coil of the Dow-Key coax relay. The receiver coax goes to the female coax connection next to the coil. The antenna coax goes to the female coax connection at the end of the coax relay. If your coax relay includes "auxillary" contacts opposite the coil, they can be used to mute your receiver. If your coax relay doesn't have auxillary contacts, you can wire another, cheap relay's 115vac coil across the coax relay coil, and use the contacts of the cheap relay to do the muting function. Some receivers are muted by opening a lead, some by closing a lead to ground. 73, Ed Knobloch |
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Edward wrote:
Thanks, Ed- Now I have to figure out what the relay mounted on ledge with the two small tubs is intended to do. I have problems tracing sets with no documents for revisions. A relay mounted on the shelf near the mode switch is the recommended (by Johnson) location for a push to talk relay. I'm pretty sure the mod appeared in later editions of the Ranger manual, and it appears on pages 18 and 19 of the Ranger II operating manual. The recommended Ranger II version uses a double-pole-double-throw relay, one pole for controlling the rf stages in a.m. mode, and one pole for switching the antenna relay control voltage at the rear panel jack. Since your Ranger has a push to talk (PTT) relay, it should have two connections plus ground at the mic jack. Grounding one of the mic jack connections, while the rig is in a.m. mode, should cause the relay to pull in, and the rig to transmit. My Ranger II has a nice addition: A previous owner used 4 pole PTT relay, and he used the extra two poles to switch the screen voltage to the modulator tubes, and to control the red indicator lamp on the Ranger II. By opening the screen supply to the modulator tubes in standby, the modulator tubes draw no current. The tubes last longer, and there is less heat in the cabinet. In fact, my Ranger II has the original Johnson-labeled modulator tubes. You can get a Ranger II Owner's manual, showing the PTT mod, at http://bama.sbc.edu This site is mirrored at http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/ Regards, Ed Knobloch |
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Thanks, Ed- I should have told you it is a Ranger I. The mic connection on chassis has only one center input. Base on this it is not a PPT relay per your explanation of requiring two connections. I also have no ac terminals on back of set for any relay. The relay does look like it is a double-pole double- throw. This set apparently has a lot of other mods based on tracing some of the wiring when I replaced all the caps. When I first tried to load into a 5o watt light bulb, it blew the fuse. It has been over 20 years since I loaded a tube transmitter. hi hi I changes fuse and tried again. It does not seem to load. The relay does click when I change from stand-by to fone or to cw. I used my key and sent some code and can hear faint clean cw signals on my Sony Sw RX set when tuned to the sending freq. There is no sound when I put on tune position during tune up. Does any of this give you any clews as to where I should look for the problem. I should also point out the relay and meter sometime do absolutely nothing. I suspect have a short somewhere ?? Ed On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:06:09 GMT, Edward Knobloch wrote: Edward wrote: Thanks, Ed- Now I have to figure out what the relay mounted on ledge with the two small tubs is intended to do. I have problems tracing sets with no documents for revisions. A relay mounted on the shelf near the mode switch is the recommended (by Johnson) location for a push to talk relay. I'm pretty sure the mod appeared in later editions of the Ranger manual, and it appears on pages 18 and 19 of the Ranger II operating manual. The recommended Ranger II version uses a double-pole-double-throw relay, one pole for controlling the rf stages in a.m. mode, and one pole for switching the antenna relay control voltage at the rear panel jack. Since your Ranger has a push to talk (PTT) relay, it should have two connections plus ground at the mic jack. Grounding one of the mic jack connections, while the rig is in a.m. mode, should cause the relay to pull in, and the rig to transmit. My Ranger II has a nice addition: A previous owner used 4 pole PTT relay, and he used the extra two poles to switch the screen voltage to the modulator tubes, and to control the red indicator lamp on the Ranger II. By opening the screen supply to the modulator tubes in standby, the modulator tubes draw no current. The tubes last longer, and there is less heat in the cabinet. In fact, my Ranger II has the original Johnson-labeled modulator tubes. You can get a Ranger II Owner's manual, showing the PTT mod, at http://bama.sbc.edu This site is mirrored at http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/ Regards, Ed Knobloch |
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Hi, Edward
It could be that someone changed the mic jack to a single- conductor type, in order to use a favorite non-push to talk mic he had on hand. He could then use the transmitter's mode switch to go from standby to transmit on a.m., as if the PTT relay mod was never done. This would be easily reversed, should he want to go back to push to talk - no need for him to remove the relay. Look at the wiring near the mic jack. Is there a wire which originated at the PTT relay coil terminated near the mic jack? It should be shorted to ground so the PTT relay will be pulled in on a.m. mode. The connection for the external antenna relay coil is the small 2 pin ceramic socket right above the a.c. power cord, at the back of the rig. It looks like a crystal socket for type HC-6/U crystals. I referred you to the Ranger II manual because I know it spells out the push to talk mod. The Ranger II is very similar to the Ranger, it merely adds another multiplier tube to reach the 6 meter band, and deletes the old 11 meter band. (The Ranger II also uses different modulator tubes). You should go over the manual's tuning procedure carefully. It is easy to damage the final if you transmit too long without having the final dipped. It's also possible to damage the final with too much grid drive. Look over the mode switch carefully. Are any parts of the switch damaged? It could be that the previous owner added the relay to substitute for burned out contacts on the mode switch (not very likely, though). 73, Ed Knobloch Edward wrote: Thanks, Ed- I should have told you it is a Ranger I. The mic connection on chassis has only one center input. Base on this it is not a PPT relay per your explanation of requiring two connections. I also have no ac terminals on back of set for any relay. The relay does look like it is a double-pole double- throw. This set apparently has a lot of other mods based on tracing some of the wiring when I replaced all the caps. When I first tried to load into a 5o watt light bulb, it blew the fuse. It has been over 20 years since I loaded a tube transmitter. hi hi I changes fuse and tried again. It does not seem to load. The relay does click when I change from stand-by to fone or to cw. I used my key and sent some code and can hear faint clean cw signals on my Sony Sw RX set when tuned to the sending freq. There is no sound when I put on tune position during tune up. Does any of this give you any clews as to where I should look for the problem. I should also point out the relay and meter sometime do absolutely nothing. I suspect have a short somewhere ?? Ed |
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When I was a Sophmore in High School, and a CB-er, I figured out how to do
this. Get a couple of relays and "git'er done"! Come on !!! "Edward" wrote in message ... On a Johnson Ranger I : With a relay added for antenna change over, what additional components are required ? How does it operate ? Wiring req'd. ? I have always used separate antennas for TX & RX and have no idea operating details. |
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