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nierveze February 12th 06 12:46 PM

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hello everyone,I need the schematic of the receiver part
of the scr522 ,I have found one schematic on the internet but it is
almost impossible to read.Thanks very much ,73 f1gqb

Litzendraht February 13th 06 12:58 AM

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I have the book on the SCR 522, but no way to scan and forward
schematics.

Do you have a specific question about the receiver? I am familiar with
the equipment. I used the BC 624 and 625 almost 45 years ago as my two
meter AM station.

John


nierveze February 13th 06 09:10 AM

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Litzendraht wrote:
I have the book on the SCR 522, but no way to scan and forward
schematics.

Do you have a specific question about the receiver? I am familiar with
the equipment. I used the BC 624 and 625 almost 45 years ago as my two
meter AM station.

John

Hello ,thanks for your answer.I have no precise question,I have bought
one on ebay ,it is electronically complete ,and without problem (maybe
the chemical condensers to change),and mecanically the mecanism of
tuning has been removed ,but not the variable condensers and coils.
I plan to do use it to do radio-astronomy ,yes it may seem a fool
project ,but one part of my hobby besides radio-amateur is
radio-astronomy ,and I wanted to use a receiver like they were at
the beginning of radio-astronomy on vhf just to know what was received
from the sun at that time .This is why I'd like to have the schematic
with values of resistors ,condensers etc,and the
connectors ,so I can use it and repair it .
Thanks very much,best 73 alain f1gqb

Lionel Sharp February 13th 06 11:13 AM

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nierveze wrote:
Litzendraht wrote:

I have the book on the SCR 522, but no way to scan and forward
schematics.

Do you have a specific question about the receiver? I am familiar with
the equipment. I used the BC 624 and 625 almost 45 years ago as my two
meter AM station.

John

Hello ,thanks for your answer.I have no precise question,I have bought
one on ebay ,it is electronically complete ,and without problem (maybe
the chemical condensers to change),and mecanically the mecanism of
tuning has been removed ,but not the variable condensers and coils.
I plan to do use it to do radio-astronomy ,yes it may seem a fool
project ,but one part of my hobby besides radio-amateur is
radio-astronomy ,and I wanted to use a receiver like they were at
the beginning of radio-astronomy on vhf just to know what was received
from the sun at that time .This is why I'd like to have the schematic
with values of resistors ,condensers etc,and the
connectors ,so I can use it and repair it .
Thanks very much,best 73 alain f1gqb


G'Day Alain

Ah memories - I used an SCR522 Rx & Tx on 2 metres way way back. They
were a great piece of gear and used by lots of hams.

Before you apply power to the receiver (or transmitter) check out the
..006mf mica HT bypass capacitors. Some of the sets used Micamold
capacitors which are dark brown in colour and are in fact paper not
mica. They used to break down with monotonous regularity.

Best to replace the lot (15 or so)in the receiver (and Tx). Some
SCR522's had good mica capacitors and if I remember they were light
brown in colour.

There were a couple of versions of the receiver that I know of. One
version had a squelch relay whilst the other version had electronic squelch.

I do have a manual but to copy the circuit it would be in 3 pieces and I
dont know how the small print would come out.Also have the wiring diagram.

There is a relative simple modification to make the RX tunable and not
crystal controled

You should be able to get a circuit locally if you hunt around, if not
let me know and will try sending you a copy.

73
Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS

Carter, K8VT February 13th 06 11:37 AM

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nierveze wrote:


I plan to do use it to do radio-astronomy ,yes it may seem a fool
project ,but one part of my hobby besides radio-amateur is
radio-astronomy ,and I wanted to use a receiver like they were at
the beginning of radio-astronomy on vhf just to know what was received
from the sun at that time .This is why I'd like to have the schematic
with values of resistors ,condensers etc,and the
connectors ,so I can use it and repair it .
Thanks very much,best 73 alain f1gqb


Good luck with the project. I also used a 522 on 2 meters. As I recall,
they were OK in their day, but pretty insensitive by today's standards.
On the other hand, the sun is a pretty powerful transmitter! ;-)

Have you tried copying Jupiter? It's around 21 MHz; nice web site about
it. Do a web search for "Project Jove".

73,
Carter K8VT

Litzendraht February 13th 06 08:56 PM

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nierveze wrote:
I plan to do use it to do radio-astronomy ,yes it may seem a fool
project ,but one part of my hobby besides radio-amateur is
radio-astronomy ,and I wanted to use a receiver like they were at
the beginning of radio-astronomy on vhf just to know what was received
from the sun at that time .This is why I'd like to have the schematic
with values of resistors ,condensers etc,and the
connectors ,so I can use it and repair it .
Thanks very much,best 73 alain f1gqb




Alain,
You might ask some of the older members of your local radio amateur
community for information and drawings of the 522. It was a very
popular set amongst hams in the post War years.

I am surprised that you will be attempting radio-astronomy work with
the BC 624. As someone mentioned, it is not a very sensitive receiver.
Most amateurs that used it began by rebuilding the front end for lower
noise and higher gain. One chap mentioned substituting 6AG5 tubes for
the 9003's. I used 6AK5's. It is a 4 channel crystal controlled unit
and perhaps for your purpose, just a few channels may be
acceptable.There are some simple changes that will allow it to be
continuously tunable from 100 to 156 Mhz without having to use quartz
crystals.

I'm sorry that I do not have ability to scan and forward information.

It might be of interest, when I was in the military, one of our search
radars operated in the "S" band (around 3000 Mhz), and I found if I
raised the antenna elevation and aimed towards the sun there was a most
dramatic increase in receiver noise.

Good luck with your project.
John


thierry_._stora_@_cegetel_._net February 13th 06 10:13 PM

scr522-bc624
 
wrote:

hello everyone,I need the schematic of the receiver part
of the scr522 ,I have found one schematic on the internet but it is
almost impossible to read.Thanks very much ,73 f1gqb



Hi Alain,

just send the schematic you need @ your email address.

Far from pefect scan in two parts, the original is large. Hope it will
help, with scissors and adhesive tape I think it can. Feddback
welcome, other request of this schematic also.

Schéma envoyé directement à votre adresse mail.... Etc!

Thierry Stora

http://www.chapelon.net

Don Bowey February 13th 06 11:45 PM

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On 2/13/06 12:56 PM, in article
, "Litzendraht"
wrote:


nierveze wrote:
I plan to do use it to do radio-astronomy ,yes it may seem a fool
project ,but one part of my hobby besides radio-amateur is
radio-astronomy ,and I wanted to use a receiver like they were at
the beginning of radio-astronomy on vhf just to know what was received
from the sun at that time .This is why I'd like to have the schematic
with values of resistors ,condensers etc,and the
connectors ,so I can use it and repair it .
Thanks very much,best 73 alain f1gqb




Alain,
You might ask some of the older members of your local radio amateur
community for information and drawings of the 522. It was a very
popular set amongst hams in the post War years.

I am surprised that you will be attempting radio-astronomy work with
the BC 624. As someone mentioned, it is not a very sensitive receiver.
Most amateurs that used it began by rebuilding the front end for lower
noise and higher gain. One chap mentioned substituting 6AG5 tubes for
the 9003's. I used 6AK5's. It is a 4 channel crystal controlled unit
and perhaps for your purpose, just a few channels may be
acceptable.There are some simple changes that will allow it to be
continuously tunable from 100 to 156 Mhz without having to use quartz
crystals.

I'm sorry that I do not have ability to scan and forward information.

It might be of interest, when I was in the military, one of our search
radars operated in the "S" band (around 3000 Mhz), and I found if I
raised the antenna elevation and aimed towards the sun there was a most
dramatic increase in receiver noise.

Good luck with your project.
John


The sun can be very helpful. At a Dew Line location where we had just
completed the Radar installations, two complete Radar equipments with
back-to-back antennas, the echo returns didn't look as we had expected, but
it was late in the day, so we gave up for the night. The next morning it
was observed that the sun was showing on the scopes, 180 degrees off.

Don


Litzendraht February 14th 06 06:16 AM

scr522-bc624
 

wrote:
Hi Alain,

just send the schematic you need @ your email address.

Far from pefect scan in two parts, the original is large. Hope it will
help, with scissors and adhesive tape I think it can. Feddback
welcome, other request of this schematic also.

Schéma envoyé directement à votre adresse mail.... Etc!

Thierry Stora

http://www.chapelon.net




Thank you Thierry for sending the schematic to Alain. I wish Alain well
in his radio astronomy ventures with 60 year old radio equipment.

John


Litzendraht February 14th 06 06:36 AM

scr522-bc624
 

Lionel Sharp wrote:
Ah memories - I used an SCR522 Rx & Tx on 2 metres way way back. They
were a great piece of gear and used by lots of hams.

Before you apply power to the receiver (or transmitter) check out the
.006mf mica HT bypass capacitors. Some of the sets used Micamold
capacitors which are dark brown in colour and are in fact paper not
mica. They used to break down with monotonous regularity.

Best to replace the lot (15 or so)in the receiver (and Tx). Some
SCR522's had good mica capacitors and if I remember they were light
brown in colour.

There were a couple of versions of the receiver that I know of. One
version had a squelch relay whilst the other version had electronic squelch.

I do have a manual but to copy the circuit it would be in 3 pieces and I
dont know how the small print would come out.Also have the wiring diagram.

There is a relative simple modification to make the RX tunable and not
crystal controled

You should be able to get a circuit locally if you hunt around, if not
let me know and will try sending you a copy.




Lionel,

Why don't we create an SCR 522 fan club? I eventually replaced the
832 PA with an 829B and ran about 70 watts, modulated with a pair of
1625's on two metres AM. Golly, those were my "wonder years". I was
still a kid in high school. I still have some 522 stuff about, but no
complete units. I do recall that all the equipment tags have the RAF
insignia.

John


nierveze February 14th 06 10:14 AM

scr522-bc624
 
Litzendraht wrote:
wrote:

Hi Alain,

just send the schematic you need @ your email address.

Far from pefect scan in two parts, the original is large. Hope it will
help, with scissors and adhesive tape I think it can. Feddback
welcome, other request of this schematic also.

Schéma envoyé directement à votre adresse mail.... Etc!

Thierry Stora

http://www.chapelon.net





Thank you Thierry for sending the schematic to Alain. I wish Alain well
in his radio astronomy ventures with 60 year old radio equipment.

John

Hello every one ,thanks for your precious help, thanks Thierry for the
schematics well arrived at home and well printed ,time will be long now
the bc624 come from Honolulu....yesterday I went to my garage and
got the bc 625 (transmitter) I already have ,it is in nice condition.The
reason I plan to use the bc624 in radio-astronomy is simple :it is a
radio-set I found on ebay at a reasonable price (shipping included )
(before ,I had looked at hamfests in France ,and did not find receivers
in vhf old enought-1960 was the oldest),I am a long time om ,and doing
radio-astronomy on the sun since 20 years with 'good' receivers,this
project is to test with the receivers of the time of the discovery of
radio-astronomy,nostalgia ...
For those interested there is a book 'The early years of
radio-astronomy' at Cambride university press ,that describes the
material used at that time it is very interesting . In fact Reber
at the beginning around 1939 used a 31 feet parabola and a trf amplifier
with 4* 955 acorn tubes amplifier,and a 953 acorn diode ....the bc624
is of the nearly same time but as a superhet will be more sensitive ,the
9003 input tube is the successor of the 955 acorn in an another 'box'.
This is for some explanations of all the questions.
Of course if a scr522 fan club is done ,count on me with the bc625 and
bc 624.
Thanks again all of you 73 alain f1gqb

Lionel Sharp February 14th 06 11:43 AM

scr522-bc624
 
Litzendraht wrote:
Lionel Sharp wrote:

Ah memories - I used an SCR522 Rx & Tx on 2 metres way way back. They
were a great piece of gear and used by lots of hams.

Before you apply power to the receiver (or transmitter) check out the
.006mf mica HT bypass capacitors. Some of the sets used Micamold
capacitors which are dark brown in colour and are in fact paper not
mica. They used to break down with monotonous regularity.

Best to replace the lot (15 or so)in the receiver (and Tx). Some
SCR522's had good mica capacitors and if I remember they were light
brown in colour.

There were a couple of versions of the receiver that I know of. One
version had a squelch relay whilst the other version had electronic squelch.

I do have a manual but to copy the circuit it would be in 3 pieces and I
dont know how the small print would come out.Also have the wiring diagram.

There is a relative simple modification to make the RX tunable and not
crystal controled

You should be able to get a circuit locally if you hunt around, if not
let me know and will try sending you a copy.





Lionel,

Why don't we create an SCR 522 fan club? I eventually replaced the
832 PA with an 829B and ran about 70 watts, modulated with a pair of
1625's on two metres AM. Golly, those were my "wonder years". I was
still a kid in high school. I still have some 522 stuff about, but no
complete units. I do recall that all the equipment tags have the RAF
insignia.

John

G'Day John
I am sure that many of those who used the SCR522 in the past have passed
on. When I used my SCR522 on 2 metres there was no TV and consequently
no TVI. I think that TV changed all that. Even had one that was
converted to 6 metres (the TX not RX).

There was a rather large mains power supply, the RA62 produced in the
USA for the military.

The RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force) also had mains power supply made
under contract and they are heeeavy.

The RAF and RAAF designations was the TR5043.

I believe it was descended from the RAF TR1143 VHF set which was used
very successfully in the early days of WW2 for fighter control. When the
Americans saw the successful use of VHF they took a TR1143 back to the
USA and "Copied" it and produced it as the SCR522.

Only ever saw one TR1143 in a surplus shop. I think that the TR1143
would be very rare nowadays.

Someone will correct me if I am wrong about this.

73
Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS

Chuck Harris February 14th 06 01:10 PM

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Lionel Sharp wrote:

I believe it was descended from the RAF TR1143 VHF set which was used
very successfully in the early days of WW2 for fighter control. When the
Americans saw the successful use of VHF they took a TR1143 back to the
USA and "Copied" it and produced it as the SCR522.


You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.

-Chuck

Scott Dorsey February 14th 06 03:21 PM

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Litzendraht wrote:

Thank you Thierry for sending the schematic to Alain. I wish Alain well
in his radio astronomy ventures with 60 year old radio equipment.


I have them all the time. Can't somebody DO something about Jupiter
and the sun? They're always causing interference for me. Can't the
FCC get them shut down or something?
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Lionel Sharp February 14th 06 08:54 PM

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Chuck Harris wrote:
Lionel Sharp wrote:

I believe it was descended from the RAF TR1143 VHF set which was used
very successfully in the early days of WW2 for fighter control. When
the Americans saw the successful use of VHF they took a TR1143 back to
the USA and "Copied" it and produced it as the SCR522.



You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.

-Chuck

G'day Chuck
No that was not the intention. Perhaps you can suggest another word that
is more to your liking
Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS

Litzendraht February 15th 06 02:19 AM

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Chuck Harris wrote:
You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.



Chuck,
I think it might have been more a case of "immitation is the best
form of flattery". I wasn't old enough to remember, but us Yanks were
probably using all HF radio in our fighters and bombers. But once we
got involved in the war effort, the success of the RAF and others with
VHF radio must have told us that we needed similiar equipment. We could
have certainly started from ground zero with our own designs, but
reliable aircraft communications was a vital factor at the time, and
VHF, being still a new form of transmission in those days, would have
taken months and months on the drawing boards and lab and field testing
to come up with a viable, operational unit.

I can see where it could have been quite desireable to take a known
working design, put our Yankee spin on it and get it into production.
We and the Allies had a big job ahead of us over there and time was of
essence. And yes,we were lending and loaning supplies, equipment,
manufacturing, (and fighting men as well), as a part of a team effort
to resolve a terrific world threat.

John


Chuck Harris February 15th 06 03:28 AM

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Litzendraht wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote:
You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.



Chuck,
I think it might have been more a case of "immitation is the best
form of flattery". I wasn't old enough to remember, but us Yanks were
probably using all HF radio in our fighters and bombers. But once we
got involved in the war effort, the success of the RAF and others with
VHF radio must have told us that we needed similiar equipment. We could
have certainly started from ground zero with our own designs, but
reliable aircraft communications was a vital factor at the time, and
VHF, being still a new form of transmission in those days, would have
taken months and months on the drawing boards and lab and field testing
to come up with a viable, operational unit.

I can see where it could have been quite desireable to take a known
working design, put our Yankee spin on it and get it into production.
We and the Allies had a big job ahead of us over there and time was of
essence. And yes,we were lending and loaning supplies, equipment,
manufacturing, (and fighting men as well), as a part of a team effort
to resolve a terrific world threat.

John


Hi John,

Everything I read says the SCR-522 was a redesign of the British TR-1123,
that was done to make it possible to mass produce it with US tooling.

Certainly the US used the TR-1123 design as a quick way of getting a working
VHF design into the war as quickly as possible. It was several years before
the much more capable ARC-1 came out.

My only objection was the way the OP stated that it was copy. It had the
familiar taste of US bashing. If I read the OP's intentions incorrectly,
and it sounds like I probably did, I am sorry.

-Chuck

Lionel Sharp February 15th 06 05:03 AM

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Chuck Harris wrote:
Litzendraht wrote:

Chuck Harris wrote:

You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.




Chuck,
I think it might have been more a case of "immitation is the best
form of flattery". I wasn't old enough to remember, but us Yanks were
probably using all HF radio in our fighters and bombers. But once we
got involved in the war effort, the success of the RAF and others with
VHF radio must have told us that we needed similiar equipment. We could
have certainly started from ground zero with our own designs, but
reliable aircraft communications was a vital factor at the time, and
VHF, being still a new form of transmission in those days, would have
taken months and months on the drawing boards and lab and field testing
to come up with a viable, operational unit.

I can see where it could have been quite desireable to take a known
working design, put our Yankee spin on it and get it into production.
We and the Allies had a big job ahead of us over there and time was of
essence. And yes,we were lending and loaning supplies, equipment,
manufacturing, (and fighting men as well), as a part of a team effort
to resolve a terrific world threat.

John



Hi John,

Everything I read says the SCR-522 was a redesign of the British TR-1123,
that was done to make it possible to mass produce it with US tooling.

Certainly the US used the TR-1123 design as a quick way of getting a
working
VHF design into the war as quickly as possible. It was several years
before
the much more capable ARC-1 came out.

My only objection was the way the OP stated that it was copy. It had the
familiar taste of US bashing. If I read the OP's intentions incorrectly,
and it sounds like I probably did, I am sorry.

-Chuck

G'day Chuck.

There was no intention of US bashing or of there being something evil in
my story. John (see above) stated the situation better than I and I
agree with his sentiments.

Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS

Andrew VK3BFA February 15th 06 06:10 AM

scr522-bc624
 

Lionel Sharp wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote:
Litzendraht wrote:

Chuck Harris wrote:

You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.



Chuck,
I think it might have been more a case of "immitation is the best
form of flattery". I wasn't old enough to remember, but us Yanks were
probably using all HF radio in our fighters and bombers. But once we
got involved in the war effort, the success of the RAF and others with
VHF radio must have told us that we needed similiar equipment. We could
have certainly started from ground zero with our own designs, but
reliable aircraft communications was a vital factor at the time, and
VHF, being still a new form of transmission in those days, would have
taken months and months on the drawing boards and lab and field testing
to come up with a viable, operational unit.

I can see where it could have been quite desireable to take a known
working design, put our Yankee spin on it and get it into production.
We and the Allies had a big job ahead of us over there and time was of
essence. And yes,we were lending and loaning supplies, equipment,
manufacturing, (and fighting men as well), as a part of a team effort
to resolve a terrific world threat.

John



Hi John,

Everything I read says the SCR-522 was a redesign of the British TR-1123,
that was done to make it possible to mass produce it with US tooling.

Certainly the US used the TR-1123 design as a quick way of getting a
working
VHF design into the war as quickly as possible. It was several years
before
the much more capable ARC-1 came out.

My only objection was the way the OP stated that it was copy. It had the
familiar taste of US bashing. If I read the OP's intentions incorrectly,
and it sounds like I probably did, I am sorry.

-Chuck

G'day Chuck.

There was no intention of US bashing or of there being something evil in
my story. John (see above) stated the situation better than I and I
agree with his sentiments.

Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS


For more details, check out www.aafradio.org - the Americans could not
communicate with t-he British who were using VHF in their aircraft, so
the SCR522 was a "copy" of the British design until the Americans could
do the necessary R & D. No slight on our American friends intended -
stop being so paranoid! - when we do want to insult you, you will be
left in no doubt hi hi

Andrew VK3BFA.


Litzendraht February 15th 06 07:39 AM

scr522-bc624
 
Well,
Chuck, Andrew, and Lionel,
I'm glad we got this topic resolved. And further discussion of the BC
624 and 625 can now begin.

My first two meter rig was a home brewed transceiver using a design
from the old 112mc. WERS (war emergency radio service) band. I used a
6C4 triode as a super-regen detector which reverted to an ultra audion
oscillator on transmit using a multi-section rotary switch. 6AT6 1st
audio/mic amplifier and 6V6 audio output/modulator. I had a buddy
across town that shared interest in two meters and he had a similiar
rig, but with a single 3A5 dual triode tube and it used batteries.

My rig ran on a 150 volt supply and would just light a #47 pilot lamp
as a dummy load. My friends rig on "B" batteries showed no output with
a lamp load. But it worked! We were about 3 or 4 miles apart and made a
solid QSO.

My first real two meter rig was a T23/ARC-5 transmitter that I bought
at a surplus dealer for $12. That prompted me to build a crystal
controlled converter using two 6AK5's and two 6J6's and used that ahead
of a Hammarlund HQ-129X receiver. Built a home made 5 element Yagi made
from old TV antenna hardware. I was on the air on two meter AM in fine
style.

The 522 came along a bit later when someone gave me a bunch old stuff.
I spent many hours replacing all those Micamold paper condensers in the
receiver. I had a lot of fun with the 522 and the T23 and learned a
whole lot about VHF. My present day knowledge has not advanced anything
beyond those days prior to 1960. Ha!

For you chaps down under, talking about old times motivated me to pull
an early log book. My first QSO with VK land was VK2EG on 14.065 mc. in
1957. I was running 100 watts input to a pair of push-pull 807's and a
ground plane antenna. And the HQ-129X receiver, of course.

Been a long day, I'm gonna grab a cold 807. Hi!

73, John


K3HVG February 15th 06 01:26 PM

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All,
In the late 50's, all of us who wanted to get on 2-meters used the '522
transmitter. I also seem to recall that we could, and did, trade the
finals either the 832A for an 829B, or vice versa, to get a bit more
power. I think there was a mechanical consideration, too.. but that was
a long time ago! That transmitter, plus a Tapetone or Tecraft receiver
converter, and you were on your way. de K3HVG


Chuck Harris February 15th 06 01:53 PM

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Andrew VK3BFA wrote:

G'day Chuck.

There was no intention of US bashing or of there being something evil in
my story. John (see above) stated the situation better than I and I
agree with his sentiments.

Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS


For more details, check out www.aafradio.org - the Americans could not
communicate with t-he British who were using VHF in their aircraft, so
the SCR522 was a "copy" of the British design until the Americans could
do the necessary R & D. No slight on our American friends intended -
stop being so paranoid! - when we do want to insult you, you will be
left in no doubt hi hi

Andrew VK3BFA.


Hi Lionel, Andrew, etal,

I am sorry for over reacting.

My first 2M rig was a decidedly breadboard contraption that used a
6J6 as a push-pull oscillator, and had a modified phonograph audio
output stage as the modulator. It had no xtal, and drifted so badly
that I could never be sure where I would end up. I ditched that
mess, and used a borrowed ARC-1 in its original 28V dynamotor condition.
The ARC-1 was pure pleasure to operate. It sounded nice (inspite of
its carbon microphone), and could change channels at a whim.

A lot of folks swapped 829's in for 832's in some of the vhf rigs, but
the ARC-1 was too compact for that treatment. The 829 was a fair bit
taller, and would run into the top of the bakelite socket assembly
the ARC-1 used.

-Chuck

K3HVG February 15th 06 05:19 PM

scr522-bc624
 
Still have an ARC-1. It one of those that Eastern Airlines (?)
converted to 50 channels. While working for Page Airways at DCA in the
mid-60's, I managed to get the unit and an original book with the ComCo
airline mod included.



Litzendraht February 16th 06 08:16 PM

SCR 522--BC 624
 

nierveze wrote:
the 9003 input tube is the successor of the 955 acorn in an another 'box'.



Alain,
I was pleased that you mentioned the 9003 being the successor of an
acorn tube. I started to mention that when I said I replaced the 9003's
with 6AK5's. There was a series of 7 pin minatures that replicated some
of the acorns.

I think the 9003 was actually the replacement for a 954 pentode acorn
and the 9002 (also used in the BC 624) replaced a 955 triode.

My B&W grid dip meter that I've had for a hundred years uses a 955
oscillator. And I did some tinkering in those early days with portable
2 metre equipment with 957 battery triodes. One small transmitter I
built used a single 957 ultra-audion oscillator and I modulated it with
a Shure magnetic microphone in series with the grid resistor ground
return. Pretty simple circuit. It sounded great on the BC 624!

What type of antenna array do you plan to use? Do you know the
frequency range that was used in the early experiments that you
mentioned?

John


nierveze February 17th 06 10:30 AM

SCR 522--BC 624
 
Litzendraht wrote:
nierveze wrote:

the 9003 input tube is the successor of the 955 acorn in an another 'box'.




Alain,
I was pleased that you mentioned the 9003 being the successor of an
acorn tube. I started to mention that when I said I replaced the 9003's
with 6AK5's. There was a series of 7 pin minatures that replicated some
of the acorns.

I think the 9003 was actually the replacement for a 954 pentode acorn
and the 9002 (also used in the BC 624) replaced a 955 triode.

My B&W grid dip meter that I've had for a hundred years uses a 955
oscillator. And I did some tinkering in those early days with portable
2 metre equipment with 957 battery triodes. One small transmitter I
built used a single 957 ultra-audion oscillator and I modulated it with
a Shure magnetic microphone in series with the grid resistor ground
return. Pretty simple circuit. It sounded great on the BC 624!

What type of antenna array do you plan to use? Do you know the
frequency range that was used in the early experiments that you
mentioned?

John

Hello John
first of all to share my happiness ,my bc624 is at home ,it took just a
week to come from Honolulu to France .This fact itself is
marvelous!!!It is in perfect good condition.It is marvelous to see 60
years old radio-set in such a nice condition ,it is nearly complete
,only the front panel mechanic to select channels ,has been removed .As
a begining I plan to use simple 2m yagi ,I have three of then 'tailored'
on 150 mhz that is an official band of radio-astronomy (shared with
other services ).In the beginning of radio-astronomy after several test
on microwave (around 3ghz) ,G.Reber finally used 169mhz ,a frequency
that is still in use in radio-astronomy
in several observatories .Here I have been using that frequency with
modified vhf radio-reciver (just cut one turn out of the input coils
,and tune again ,and tv antennas are ok)alas now there is lot of qrm by
vhf relais ,it is a local problem .I'll keep you informed .
You are right about the tubes ,I also have a gdo of that kind ,and
several acorn tubes .Thanks ,good bye 73 alain f1gqb

Michael A. Terrell February 17th 06 02:46 PM

scr522-bc624
 
Scott Dorsey wrote:

Litzendraht wrote:

Thank you Thierry for sending the schematic to Alain. I wish Alain well
in his radio astronomy ventures with 60 year old radio equipment.


I have them all the time. Can't somebody DO something about Jupiter
and the sun? They're always causing interference for me. Can't the
FCC get them shut down or something?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."



Yeah! Where is "Marvin the Martian" when you need him? I guess that
he is still looking for a Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Litzendraht February 18th 06 06:35 AM

scr522-bc624
 

Chuck Harris wrote:
My first 2M rig was a decidedly breadboard contraption that used a
6J6 as a push-pull oscillator, and had a modified phonograph audio
output stage as the modulator. It had no xtal, and drifted so badly
that I could never be sure where I would end up. I ditched that
mess, and used a borrowed ARC-1 in its original 28V dynamotor condition.
The ARC-1 was pure pleasure to operate. It sounded nice (inspite of
its carbon microphone), and could change channels at a whim.

A lot of folks swapped 829's in for 832's in some of the vhf rigs, but
the ARC-1 was too compact for that treatment. The 829 was a fair bit
taller, and would run into the top of the bakelite socket assembly
the ARC-1 used.

-Chuck




Chuck,

I feel your pain. My first attempt on 220 mc. was about 1965 and I
used a breadboard contraption with a push-pull 12AT7 and I used the
output section of an Olson reel to reel tape recorder as a modulator
and B+ supply. It worked OK. Maybe a watt if I was lucky.

I remember the ARC 1's and was there an ARC 3 or 4?, but the 522's
were very common. One of my high school buddies had a 522 in the
original equipment case with the contol box. When he changed
frequencies, what a sound! Kind of a clacking, ripping noise as those
shifter slides did there thing. But it worked and sounded good. And my
"S" meter kicked up when he talked. If you recall, the driver was
modulated along with the PA.

I used 829's (or 3E29's) in both my 522 and T23/ARC 5 rigs. In the T23,
I got rid of the PA turret assy and replaced it with a nice 4 turn
center tapped coil and butterfly tuning condenser (from a 522 with a
couple of plates removed).

Those were the days! They'll never return, but I'm glad I was there and
had the experience. Sorta like steam trains and "hot boxes". How many
people today have ever seen a hot box? I'm glad I have the memories,
and no one can take them away.

John



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