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Dave Edwards March 18th 06 12:57 PM

Is CB dead?
 
I have not had an 11 meter antenna up in the air since around 1972 or so. I
have a clear memory of all the heterodynes and yacking on every channel that
used to go on. I plugged one in again around 1985 or so, because a buddy of
mine had one in his boat, and used it keep it on channel 5. Not much
difference.
Anyway, last weekend...for yucks, I hooked one up to a longwire. I did not
hear a single person on any channel! Perhaps it is the cross polarized wire
antenna.
So, I shot a wire over a branch, and hoisted a CB vertical antenna ..Astron
or Antron...something like that...a pretty good fiberglass antenna!
Still, other than a general high noise level...no signals!
Channel 19 used to be jammed...even with a handheld whip antenna!

Is CB no longer??

Perhaps it might be useful again!!!

Anyone check the band out lately?

.....Dave



[email protected] March 18th 06 01:02 PM

Is CB dead?
 

Dave Edwards wrote:
I have not had an 11 meter antenna up in the air since around 1972 or so. I
have a clear memory of all the heterodynes and yacking on every channel that
used to go on. I plugged one in again around 1985 or so, because a buddy of
mine had one in his boat, and used it keep it on channel 5. Not much
difference.
Anyway, last weekend...for yucks, I hooked one up to a longwire. I did not
hear a single person on any channel! Perhaps it is the cross polarized wire
antenna.
So, I shot a wire over a branch, and hoisted a CB vertical antenna ..Astron
or Antron...something like that...a pretty good fiberglass antenna!
Still, other than a general high noise level...no signals!
Channel 19 used to be jammed...even with a handheld whip antenna!

Is CB no longer??

Perhaps it might be useful again!!!

Anyone check the band out lately?

....Dave



Jerry McCarty March 18th 06 01:38 PM

Is CB dead?
 
I've got one in the car. No idea if the transmitter works, but I get the
best traffic reports available by listening to the truckers. The accuracy of
of the broadcast station's reports leaves much to be desired.

Besides, it is always helpful to know where Smoky is hiding out :)

Rob Mills March 18th 06 03:05 PM

Is CB dead?
 

"Dave Edwards" wrote in message
...

Anyone check the band out lately?


I don't check it real often but I live less than a mile from I-44 were it
passes through Tulsa and about all I hear on ch 19 (27.185) is an occasional
trucker gabbing with another, nothing out of line as it once was. RM~



Caveat Lector March 18th 06 03:16 PM

Is CB dead?
 
We are near the bottom of the 11 year solar cycle
thus very poor "skip" conditions on the upper bands
See URL:
http://www.dxlc.com/solar/solcycle.html
Or

http://www.arrl.org/qst/propcharts/2006/04/mid.pdf

One might hear some local line of sight signals but not like the "old" days
--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






"Dave Edwards" wrote in message
...
I have not had an 11 meter antenna up in the air since around 1972 or so. I
have a clear memory of all the heterodynes and yacking on every channel
that used to go on. I plugged one in again around 1985 or so, because a
buddy of mine had one in his boat, and used it keep it on channel 5. Not
much difference.
Anyway, last weekend...for yucks, I hooked one up to a longwire. I did not
hear a single person on any channel! Perhaps it is the cross polarized
wire antenna.
So, I shot a wire over a branch, and hoisted a CB vertical antenna
..Astron or Antron...something like that...a pretty good fiberglass
antenna!
Still, other than a general high noise level...no signals!
Channel 19 used to be jammed...even with a handheld whip antenna!

Is CB no longer??

Perhaps it might be useful again!!!

Anyone check the band out lately?

....Dave




Rob Mills March 18th 06 03:39 PM

Is CB dead?
 

"Jerry McCarty" wrote in message
...

I get the best traffic reports available by listening to the truckers.


I'm a retired driver (Sears) and spent a lot of time driving at night in the
Ozark country of N.E. Okla, S.W. Mo and N.W. Ark back in the 60's and 70's.
In those days they still had open range, winding narrow roads that trucks
mirror brackets wouldn't each other by 6 in.. The big danger were "cows in
the road" or "truck jack knifed" just around that next curve. I'm convinced
I would have never survived that job with out the warnings I got over the CB
radio. RM~

PS, All truckers get a bad rap because of a very small minority who act like
idiots on the radio. Most are like you, they don't or rarely xmit.



gb March 18th 06 09:14 PM

Is CB dead?
 
"Dave Edwards" wrote in message
...
I have not had an 11 meter antenna up in the air since around 1972 or so. I
have a clear memory of all the heterodynes and yacking on every channel
that used to go on. I plugged one in again around 1985 or so, because a
buddy of mine had one in his boat, and used it keep it on channel 5. Not
much difference.
Anyway, last weekend...for yucks, I hooked one up to a longwire. I did not
hear a single person on any channel! Perhaps it is the cross polarized
wire antenna.
So, I shot a wire over a branch, and hoisted a CB vertical antenna
..Astron or Antron...something like that...a pretty good fiberglass
antenna!
Still, other than a general high noise level...no signals!
Channel 19 used to be jammed...even with a handheld whip antenna!

Is CB no longer??


The Citizens Band (CB) is one of several Personal Radio Services, regulated
by the FCC.
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...personal_radio

Outside of usage by trucking industry on the highway, "CB" as known by the
general public during the craze of the 1970s - is as dead as 8-track tapes
(still seen on TV series That 70s Show). Why?

Technology, Politics and Public has moved on .......the original needs
(requirements) that attracted the general public to CB have largely been met
by BETTER solutions for the general public.

1.) Reagan / Bush [41] Administrations, 1980s.
Low tolerance for foul language and unreliability of the communications that
the CB service became in late 1970s - especially with conservative family &
religious groups.
A number of new services were proposed and approved that targeted specific
requirements (e.g. groups that required personal communications
[short-range] without the "non-family" language and behaviors) -- this
became the Family Radio Service (FRS). GMRS and MURS added for small
businesses and organizations.
Most of these changes were completed around 1990.

REQUIREMENT: Quiet, safe communications for families - MET (FRS)
REQUIREMENT: Realizable safe short-distance communications for volunteer,
community and small business usage - MET (GMRS, MURS)

2.) Cellular Telephone development.
Motorola pioneered development of an "analog" (AMPS) cellular telephone
system in late 1970s and early 1980s.
As the nationwide cellular network was built up over the next 15 years --
the ability to have a mobile or car telephone became affordable to anyone.
Today, there are more mobile (cellular) telephones than wired phones in the
US.
In conjunction with the development of "911" centers throughout the US in
the late 1980s and 1990s.

REQUIREMENT: Emergency communications when traveling. MET
Cellular telephones provide a telephone that can call anywhere in the world.
911 service centers provides instant communications to local public-service
agencies.

3.) Global Positioning Systems (GPS).
Originally developed for the military by defense contractors
(Rockwell-Collins was one) in the late 1970s and 1980s.
Civilian usage of GPS was expanded in the 1990s. With President Clinton's
executive order in 1990s - the accuracy of the GPS system (only available to
the military) became available to the general public - worldwide. GPS
systems coupled with a map database is a common automobile option or feature
and readily available as a handheld device (e.g hikers, campers).

REQUIREMENT: Need for directions, when lost or in an unknown area. MET
(GPS)
In addition GM's OnStar system (as advertised on radio & TV) - combines # 2
and # 3 -- 24 hours a day/ 7 days a week.

4.) National WX Service Broadcast Service - Weather Radio
The small National WX broadcast system of the early 1980s was expanded to
cover the entire US. Additional system enhancements included digital alerts
and encoding - for textual information - in addition to the audio broadcast.
Handheld and home receivers readily available. Not yet see as option in US
automobiles.

REQUIREMENT: Notification of severe weather events MET (Expanded NWS)

5.) Internet - expansion and widespread usage.
Another military and research network, it was expended and made accessible
to the public in 1990s. Internet explosion occurs when coupled with
personal computers and with development of HTTP language (web pages) and
browser technologies (Mosaic, Explorer, Firefox). "WiFi" is the mobile
version. New solutions coming to market before end of 2008.

REQUIREMENT: Desire to public to congregate in small groups for incidental
communications and information sharing (including gossip). PARTIALLY MET
Internet Access, Bandwidth and Coverage is still expanding worldwide.

That's a start. Of course there is always propagation (solar cycle) - which
as you may have heard last week - we are better prepared to predict thanks
to observations satellites in solar orbit and computer models (originally
developed for military/Cold War and weather forecasting are applied solar
observation data.

w9gb



- exray - March 18th 06 09:19 PM

Is CB dead?
 
gb wrote:


The Citizens Band (CB) is one of several Personal Radio Services, regulated
by the FCC.
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...personal_radio

Outside of usage by trucking industry on the highway, "CB" as known by the
general public during the craze of the 1970s - is as dead as 8-track tapes
(still seen on TV series That 70s Show). Why?

1.) Reagan / Bush [41] Administrations, 1980s.
Low tolerance for foul language and unreliability of the communications that
the CB service became in late 1970s - especially with conservative family &
religious groups.


Oh my, I never realized that was the problem.

-Bill

gb March 19th 06 03:40 PM

Is CB dead?
 
"- exray -" wrote in message
...

Oh my, I never realized that was the problem.

-Bill


Congressional record is open for all citizens to read.

gb



KB2SMS March 19th 06 03:48 PM

Is CB dead?
 

"gb" wrote in message
...
"Dave Edwards" wrote in message
...
I have not had an 11 meter antenna up in the air since around 1972 or so.
I have a clear memory of all the heterodynes and yacking on every channel
that used to go on. I plugged one in again around 1985 or so, because a
buddy of mine had one in his boat, and used it keep it on channel 5. Not
much difference.
Anyway, last weekend...for yucks, I hooked one up to a longwire. I did
not hear a single person on any channel! Perhaps it is the cross
polarized wire antenna.
So, I shot a wire over a branch, and hoisted a CB vertical antenna
..Astron or Antron...something like that...a pretty good fiberglass
antenna!
Still, other than a general high noise level...no signals!
Channel 19 used to be jammed...even with a handheld whip antenna!

Is CB no longer??


The Citizens Band (CB) is one of several Personal Radio Services,
regulated by the FCC.

No **** Columbo. You are an asshat.



KB2SMS March 19th 06 04:22 PM

Is CB dead?
 

"gb" wrote in message
...
"- exray -" wrote in message
...

Oh my, I never realized that was the problem.

-Bill


Congressional record is open for all citizens to read.

gb

So is your picture, you look like a cow.



gb March 20th 06 12:08 AM

Is CB dead?
 
"KB2SMS" wrote in message
...

So is your picture, you look like a cow.

== WHOIS ==
zapto.org:
Nevada - Las Vegas - Vitalwerks Internet Solutions Llc
==TRACE===

Another person stealing / "bootlegging" a licensed callsign.

So what is your excuse?




gb March 20th 06 12:19 AM

Is CB dead?
 
"KB2SMS" wrote in message
...

"gb" wrote in message
...
"Dave Edwards" wrote in message
...
I have not had an 11 meter antenna up in the air since around 1972 or so.
I have a clear memory of all the heterodynes and yacking on every channel
that used to go on. I plugged one in again around 1985 or so, because a
buddy of mine had one in his boat, and used it keep it on channel 5. Not
much difference.
Anyway, last weekend...for yucks, I hooked one up to a longwire. I did
not hear a single person on any channel! Perhaps it is the cross
polarized wire antenna.
So, I shot a wire over a branch, and hoisted a CB vertical antenna
..Astron or Antron...something like that...a pretty good fiberglass
antenna!
Still, other than a general high noise level...no signals!
Channel 19 used to be jammed...even with a handheld whip antenna!

Is CB no longer??


The Citizens Band (CB) is one of several Personal Radio Services,
regulated by the FCC.

No **** Columbo. You are an asshat.


Yes, and you are not KB2SMS.

== WHOIS ==
zapto.org:
Nevada - Las Vegas - Vitalwerks Internet Solutions Llc
==TRACE===

X-Authenticated-User: leland



KB2SMS March 20th 06 10:34 PM

Is CB dead?
 

"gb" wrote in message
. ..
"KB2SMS" wrote in message
...

So is your picture, you look like a cow.

== WHOIS ==
zapto.org:
Nevada - Las Vegas - Vitalwerks Internet Solutions Llc
==TRACE===

That's where the news server traces to asshat. Can you be any more stupid,
you parade float looking slob?



KB2SMS March 20th 06 10:35 PM

Is CB dead?
 

"gb" wrote in message
...
"KB2SMS" wrote in message
...

"gb" wrote in message
...
"Dave Edwards" wrote in message
...
I have not had an 11 meter antenna up in the air since around 1972 or
so. I have a clear memory of all the heterodynes and yacking on every
channel that used to go on. I plugged one in again around 1985 or so,
because a buddy of mine had one in his boat, and used it keep it on
channel 5. Not much difference.
Anyway, last weekend...for yucks, I hooked one up to a longwire. I did
not hear a single person on any channel! Perhaps it is the cross
polarized wire antenna.
So, I shot a wire over a branch, and hoisted a CB vertical antenna
..Astron or Antron...something like that...a pretty good fiberglass
antenna!
Still, other than a general high noise level...no signals!
Channel 19 used to be jammed...even with a handheld whip antenna!

Is CB no longer??


The Citizens Band (CB) is one of several Personal Radio Services,
regulated by the FCC.

No **** Columbo. You are an asshat.


Yes

Glad to see we agree on something, parade float.



gb March 20th 06 10:58 PM

ID theft
 
The Citizens Band (CB) is one of several Personal Radio Services,
regulated by the FCC.

No **** Columbo. You are an asshat.

===
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I have notified the user that using another persons alias or email thru my
service is not recommended.
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Abuse at usenet.zapto.org
===
What other list would you like to be added to ?



gb March 20th 06 11:05 PM

Is CB dead?
 
"KB2SMS" wrote in message
...

Okay leland.
Can you actually write an opinion?
, or are you forever like that stolen ID you uses .. in SMS land.



W9MAP March 20th 06 11:24 PM

IM SO FAT - w9map the parade float.JPG (0/1)
 
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:58:05 -0600, "gb"
wrote:

The Citizens Band (CB) is one of several Personal Radio Services,
regulated by the FCC.

No **** Columbo. You are an asshat.

===
We are aware of the situation and monitoring.
I have notified the user that using another persons alias or email thru my
service is not recommended.

I'm so fat my old man has to roll me in flower to find the wet spots.

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Beech Creek March 26th 06 03:36 AM

Is CB dead?
 

"gb" wrote in message
...
Technology, Politics and Public has moved on .......the original needs
(requirements) that attracted the general public to CB have largely been
met by BETTER solutions for the general public.

1.) Reagan / Bush [41] Administrations, 1980s.
Low tolerance for foul language and unreliability of the communications
that the CB service became in late 1970s - especially with conservative
family & religious groups.


What a ridiculous crock.

The general public was never attracted to CB. Initially it was

It is true, technology has moved on just as it always does and always will,
but the CB craze of the late 70's was dead long before the technological
advances you mention were developed and it had NOTHING to do with
Reagan/Bush political intolerance for pete's sake.

It was a fad, mainly among teenagers, and like all fads it's lifespan was
destined to be a short one.

Was it Reagan/Bush that killed the Afro hair style, bell-bottom jeans, soul
music, parachute pants, etc.?

The FCC abandoned the CB service to the wolves and that's what took it over
and that's what will take it over again as soon as the sunspot cycle
permits.

What passing 90's fads are you going to blame on the intolerance of the Bush
43 administration?

WB5CYS



L. August 29th 06 05:06 PM

Is CB dead?
 
"Diana Satyr" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
"Beech Creek" wrote:

"gb" wrote in message
...
Technology, Politics and Public has moved on .......the original needs
(requirements) that attracted the general public to CB have largely
been
met by BETTER solutions for the general public.

1.) Reagan / Bush [41] Administrations, 1980s.
Low tolerance for foul language and unreliability of the communications
that the CB service became in late 1970s - especially with conservative
family & religious groups.


What a ridiculous crock.

The general public was never attracted to CB. Initially it was

It is true, technology has moved on just as it always does and always
will,
but the CB craze of the late 70's was dead long before the technological
advances you mention were developed and it had NOTHING to do with
Reagan/Bush political intolerance for pete's sake.

It was a fad, mainly among teenagers, and like all fads it's lifespan was
destined to be a short one.

Was it Reagan/Bush that killed the Afro hair style, bell-bottom jeans,
soul
music, parachute pants, etc.?

The FCC abandoned the CB service to the wolves and that's what took it
over
and that's what will take it over again as soon as the sunspot cycle
permits.

What passing 90's fads are you going to blame on the intolerance of the
Bush
43 administration?

WB5CYS


"In part" - the truckers, movies ("Smokey and the bandit" and such) and
songs - made CB popular as well. There was a market push back then - many
models being pushed - along with antennas and so on. The CB craze died as
the man said - long before Cell Phones and so on - came to be. Actually -
the predecessor to Cell - was "Mobile" phone - which was quite expensive and
perhaps not so reliable or widely available then as cells are today..... BUT
still "they" didn't shoot down CB either.

Some day - maybe not for a few years - Cell phones may be a fad........
There ARE still many CBers out there - just not as many as at one time. The
Truckers do still use them quite heavily and at that - some use modified
radios into 10m. Then too, there are some truckers who've acquired their Ham
Licenses and now use it to talk when all else seems dead - traffic wise and
so on. I see many homes I "used" to know people who were users with antennas
still up - but gave up CB due to what it had become. It was no longer
something suitable for "family" use. Maybe now - with WWF and so on
sprouting shows saying all sorts of words even with the knowledge of
children in the crowds, CB would fit right in - since those once virgin
ears are no longer virgin..........

First it was pagers - now cell phones which have taken over our younger
generation AND some of ours. Radio - be it ham, cb, 2 way, has all but been
forgotten by them. Where WOULD they be with out their Cell Phones? I'd hate
to see the reaction if we ever had a "major" catastrophy which knocked out
all the cell sites. Most of these people will be without their drug.

Then again - it could be interesting as history does tend to repeat itself
to a degree. Who knows, we could see another surge in radio if the right
gimmick comes along - accompanied by the right "marketing" techniques.

L.



Straydog August 31st 06 07:24 AM

Is CB dead?
 


On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, L. wrote:

"Diana Satyr" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
"Beech Creek" wrote:

"gb" wrote in message
...
Technology, Politics and Public has moved on .......the original needs
(requirements) that attracted the general public to CB have largely
been
met by BETTER solutions for the general public.

1.) Reagan / Bush [41] Administrations, 1980s.
Low tolerance for foul language and unreliability of the communications
that the CB service became in late 1970s - especially with conservative
family & religious groups.

What a ridiculous crock.

The general public was never attracted to CB. Initially it was

It is true, technology has moved on just as it always does and always
will,
but the CB craze of the late 70's was dead long before the technological
advances you mention were developed and it had NOTHING to do with
Reagan/Bush political intolerance for pete's sake.

It was a fad, mainly among teenagers, and like all fads it's lifespan was
destined to be a short one.

Was it Reagan/Bush that killed the Afro hair style, bell-bottom jeans,
soul
music, parachute pants, etc.?

The FCC abandoned the CB service to the wolves and that's what took it
over
and that's what will take it over again as soon as the sunspot cycle
permits.

What passing 90's fads are you going to blame on the intolerance of the
Bush
43 administration?

WB5CYS


"In part" - the truckers, movies ("Smokey and the bandit" and such) and
songs - made CB popular as well. There was a market push back then - many
models being pushed - along with antennas and so on. The CB craze died as
the man said - long before Cell Phones and so on - came to be. Actually -
the predecessor to Cell - was "Mobile" phone - which was quite expensive and
perhaps not so reliable or widely available then as cells are today..... BUT
still "they" didn't shoot down CB either.

Some day - maybe not for a few years - Cell phones may be a fad........
There ARE still many CBers out there - just not as many as at one time. The
Truckers do still use them quite heavily and at that - some use modified
radios into 10m. Then too, there are some truckers who've acquired their Ham
Licenses and now use it to talk when all else seems dead - traffic wise and
so on. I see many homes I "used" to know people who were users with antennas
still up - but gave up CB due to what it had become. It was no longer
something suitable for "family" use. Maybe now - with WWF and so on
sprouting shows saying all sorts of words even with the knowledge of
children in the crowds, CB would fit right in - since those once virgin
ears are no longer virgin..........

First it was pagers - now cell phones which have taken over our younger
generation AND some of ours. Radio - be it ham, cb, 2 way, has all but been
forgotten by them. Where WOULD they be with out their Cell Phones? I'd hate
to see the reaction if we ever had a "major" catastrophy which knocked out
all the cell sites. Most of these people will be without their drug.


_Drug_ is the right word for cell phones. And, its not just the kids.
Around my neighborhood we have a lot of retirees and cell phones are being
used by them as well, and quite often. Wife and I can't go to any
restaurant now and not have at least one or two or three people getting
interupted at whatever meal for very definitely nonessential
conversations. We can drive almost anywhere for any local trip and look at
drivers and at any given time we can see well enough to see about 20-30%
are holding something to one or the other ears, and if we are close
enough, can see them or hear them talking, too. Sure, I have one and its
turned off all the time (my justification is, at my age, if I have a
medical problem like chest pains, I want to try to get help, or some
emergency, I can turn the thing on, otherwise its off)

Then again - it could be interesting as history does tend to repeat itself
to a degree. Who knows, we could see another surge in radio if the right
gimmick comes along - accompanied by the right "marketing" techniques.


I think society is evolving in the direction of gadgets and nothing else.
I'm also seeing a lot of people with these little ear "bug" things now.
We're turning into the "Borg." And, there is some plan out there about
the govt going to inject some kind of chip into all of us someday.

Its all overkill, overboard.

L.




L. August 31st 06 01:18 PM

Is CB dead?
 
"Straydog" wrote in message
.com...


On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, L. wrote:

"Diana Satyr" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
"Beech Creek" wrote:

"gb" wrote in message
...
Technology, Politics and Public has moved on .......the original needs
(requirements) that attracted the general public to CB have largely
been
met by BETTER solutions for the general public.

1.) Reagan / Bush [41] Administrations, 1980s.
Low tolerance for foul language and unreliability of the
communications
that the CB service became in late 1970s - especially with
conservative
family & religious groups.

What a ridiculous crock.

The general public was never attracted to CB. Initially it was

It is true, technology has moved on just as it always does and always
will,
but the CB craze of the late 70's was dead long before the
technological
advances you mention were developed and it had NOTHING to do with
Reagan/Bush political intolerance for pete's sake.

It was a fad, mainly among teenagers, and like all fads it's lifespan
was
destined to be a short one.

Was it Reagan/Bush that killed the Afro hair style, bell-bottom jeans,
soul
music, parachute pants, etc.?

The FCC abandoned the CB service to the wolves and that's what took it
over
and that's what will take it over again as soon as the sunspot cycle
permits.

What passing 90's fads are you going to blame on the intolerance of the
Bush
43 administration?

WB5CYS


"In part" - the truckers, movies ("Smokey and the bandit" and such) and
songs - made CB popular as well. There was a market push back then - many
models being pushed - along with antennas and so on. The CB craze died as
the man said - long before Cell Phones and so on - came to be. Actually -
the predecessor to Cell - was "Mobile" phone - which was quite expensive
and
perhaps not so reliable or widely available then as cells are today.....
BUT
still "they" didn't shoot down CB either.

Some day - maybe not for a few years - Cell phones may be a fad........
There ARE still many CBers out there - just not as many as at one time.
The
Truckers do still use them quite heavily and at that - some use modified
radios into 10m. Then too, there are some truckers who've acquired their
Ham
Licenses and now use it to talk when all else seems dead - traffic wise
and
so on. I see many homes I "used" to know people who were users with
antennas
still up - but gave up CB due to what it had become. It was no longer
something suitable for "family" use. Maybe now - with WWF and so on
sprouting shows saying all sorts of words even with the knowledge of
children in the crowds, CB would fit right in - since those once virgin
ears are no longer virgin..........

First it was pagers - now cell phones which have taken over our younger
generation AND some of ours. Radio - be it ham, cb, 2 way, has all but
been
forgotten by them. Where WOULD they be with out their Cell Phones? I'd
hate
to see the reaction if we ever had a "major" catastrophy which knocked
out
all the cell sites. Most of these people will be without their drug.


_Drug_ is the right word for cell phones. And, its not just the kids.
Around my neighborhood we have a lot of retirees and cell phones are being
used by them as well, and quite often. Wife and I can't go to any
restaurant now and not have at least one or two or three people getting
interupted at whatever meal for very definitely nonessential
conversations. We can drive almost anywhere for any local trip and look at
drivers and at any given time we can see well enough to see about 20-30%
are holding something to one or the other ears, and if we are close
enough, can see them or hear them talking, too. Sure, I have one and its
turned off all the time (my justification is, at my age, if I have a
medical problem like chest pains, I want to try to get help, or some
emergency, I can turn the thing on, otherwise its off)

Then again - it could be interesting as history does tend to repeat
itself
to a degree. Who knows, we could see another surge in radio if the right
gimmick comes along - accompanied by the right "marketing" techniques.


I think society is evolving in the direction of gadgets and nothing else.
I'm also seeing a lot of people with these little ear "bug" things now.
We're turning into the "Borg." And, there is some plan out there about
the govt going to inject some kind of chip into all of us someday.

Its all overkill, overboard.

L.




I don't know if that "government chip program" is realistic or someone's
paranoia playing in - but if it "is" real - I think they may have a hard
time implementing it.

Otherwise, I'm in line with you. I too use a cell phone - BUT - I can't
stand being called for stupid things.
I have a business and am involved in some major things which require me to
be able to be contacted on a moments notice........ There "are" times I use
it to make calls on the go - as I often do a lot of traveling locally. Other
than that, I expect it to stay QUIET! I much prefer to listen to my stereo
in my vehicle. But, when talking, I have a "blue tooth" device so I can
maintain control of my vehicle. If need be, I'll pull over til I'm done. I'm
also not one to "talk with my hands" as many do - so they remain ON the
wheel! Personally, my conversations which I have "are" of my own business
and I try hard NOT to talk publicly so others can "hear" it. Some people
will rattle off there Social Security, Bank Accounts numbers, etc...... in
front of others. HOW DUMB.

But I can say - it SUCKS when you have like 5 or 6 conversations going on
around you when in a restaurant, movie theater, etc. It "used" to be, you
went to those places to GET AWAY FROM A PHONE and other hassles of life.
That the phone number there was given to a baby sitter or someone FOR
EMERGENCIES ONLY. A friend of mine often will ask me to join him for dinner
at a restaurant - but he usually ends up on his cell phone for the better
part of it, which I find a bit annoying. I can "always" eat by myself
without having to listen to others' conversations. He apologizes for it and
he's as busy as I am - but still - it is annoying as I try to use those
moments to catch up on things of mutual interest and need - where we are
involved in social issues.
Yeah boy, some days I wish cells were NEVER invented.

Back on topic - as for CB - as I said, it isn't "completely" dead - it is
still used - mainly by truckers. You still have those who use them at home
to "crash" for the evening - maybe a chat before bed or something. I know we
have a few channels here locally in use as such. I hear stations on SKIP on
a few channels and they must be unemployed with some big guns because I
ALWAYS hear them. Yes, though I do NOT "talk" on CB much anymore, I do tune
in from time to time - especially if bored. Sometimes I'll turn my H.F. rig
on in my vehicle which has a general coverage receiver and maybe tune around
while eating lunch.

In a way, CB is being wasted, it is still a very viable communications
device. It did serve its purpose for many people at some point - be it for
roadside help, picking up things at a store at a last minute on way home
when your spouse or significant other got on their radio to give the order,
road directions, smokey reports - can't forget those, and some even met up
and married after meeting on the CB.

IF there was anyone of interest for me to communicate with on the CB, I'd
get back on - no problem.
I didn't abandon it "just" because I got into Ham, I got off BECAUSE - most
of the idiots about that time were fighting constantly on the air. Most of
it was liquor doing the talking. A lot of my chat friends moved on in life
or died off, so -........................... thus ended my "active" cb days.

CB is only as dead as you want it to be. Hook up a radio and antenna and get
your friends back into it - save the "cell" costs and phone charges. If you
used it before and enjoyed, you still could today - since it seems most has
died off.......

Just my 2 cents.

L.




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