WJR no longer in stereo
 

While its stereo equipment may not be completely turned off, around 10
PM on April 2 I noticed that WJR-760 Detroit no longer has stereo
separation during its commercials, promos, ID and music. The switch to
mono was sometime between March 27 and April 2.

Could this have something to do with the station's recent posting of
an opening for a new Chief Engineer?

Given that WJR had broadcast in stereo for some 20 years, this is
hardly an encouraging sign for the status of AM Stereo within the
industry.

Steven Burns

Tom Betz wrote:

For how many of those 20 years has it been a talk station?

Back when I used to listen to it (60's through mid-70's) it had enough of a
variety of programming to make it worth using stereo, and none was
available. But who needs stereo on a talk station? It's a waste.

If for nothing else, then it's useful for the commercials.

Don't they still do a music program or two on weekends?

Back when I used to listen to it (60's through mid-70's) it had enough of a
variety of programming to make it worth using stereo, and none was
available. But who needs stereo on a talk station? It's a waste.

Why is it a waste? Spots are stereo. Jingles are stereo. Bumpers are
stereo and a creative programmer or engineer could easily make local
interviews stereo by panning each person slightly off center.

If you take most syndicated programming, you're out of luck.

Rich

Rich Wood wrote:

Back when I used to listen to it (60's through mid-70's) it had enough of a
variety of programming to make it worth using stereo, and none was
available. But who needs stereo on a talk station? It's a waste.

Why is it a waste? Spots are stereo. Jingles are stereo. Bumpers are
stereo and a creative programmer or engineer could easily make local
interviews stereo by panning each person slightly off center.

If you take most syndicated programming, you're out of luck.

Rich

How many talk stations use the creative programing you suggest?

Would not think the spots etc. are sufficient reason to have stereo if the main
program is null to stereo.

In article , says...

Why is it a waste? Spots are stereo. Jingles are stereo. Bumpers are
stereo and a creative programmer or engineer could easily make local
interviews stereo by panning each person slightly off center.

Back "in the old days" at my first commercial radio job we had a
Sunday morning program with a preacher and a trio or quartet at an FM
station in Urbana, Ohio -- COL since changed to Springfield. I would
set the preacher up on the left channel and the singers on the right
channel. I thought it sounded pretty cool at the time. But when you're
17 and in radio ANYTHING is cool.
The second or third Sunday I was there while the preacher was on the
air, his well endowed niece tried to corner me while I was choosing
records for my show (yeah, free format MOR!!). I was having a bit of
fun until she told me she was only 14. My first and only encounter with
a groupie.
I always wondered what happened to her.....

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Tom Betz wrote in message ...
(Steven Burns) wrote in :


Given that WJR had broadcast in stereo for some 20 years, this is
hardly an encouraging sign for the status of AM Stereo within the
industry.

For how many of those 20 years has it been a talk station?

Back when I used to listen to it (60's through mid-70's) it had enough of a
variety of programming to make it worth using stereo, and none was
available. But who needs stereo on a talk station? It's a waste.

Who needs a pathological liar talk show host like "you know who" in stereo either!

CA was in NJ SHOT_ON_SIGHT wrote in message ...
Tom Betz wrote:

For how many of those 20 years has it been a talk station?

Back when I used to listen to it (60's through mid-70's) it had enough of a
variety of programming to make it worth using stereo, and none was
available. But who needs stereo on a talk station? It's a waste.

If for nothing else, then it's useful for the commercials.

Don't they still do a music program or two on weekends?

Like I need to hear a pathological liar radio talk show host on WJR
(you know who)- IN STEREO

On 7 May 2004 17:25:26 GMT, (misterfact) wrote:

CA was in NJ SHOT_ON_SIGHT wrote in message ...
Tom Betz wrote:

For how many of those 20 years has it been a talk station?

Back when I used to listen to it (60's through mid-70's) it had enough of a
variety of programming to make it worth using stereo, and none was
available. But who needs stereo on a talk station? It's a waste.

If for nothing else, then it's useful for the commercials.

Don't they still do a music program or two on weekends?

Like I need to hear a pathological liar radio talk show host on WJR
(you know who)- IN STEREO

Geeze, you bashing Albom again?

Carl Navarro

misterfact wrote:

Like I need to hear a pathological liar radio talk show host on WJR
(you know who)- IN STEREO

Resurrecting a month-old thread to add nothing even remotely relevant to the
discussion is sure Bozo Sign.

Get out of the library.

"misterfact" wrote in message
...

Who needs a pathological liar talk show host like "you know who" in
stereo either!

WJR is carrying Air America now???

Does ANY station in the US broadcast in stereo anymore?
More specifically, any 50kw stations or at least something I can pick
up in the US midwest at night? I purchased an AM stereo campatible
tuner about three months ago and have never even seen a hint of stereo
on the AM band.

Michael Salmons

(misterfact) wrote in message ...
Tom Betz wrote in message ...
(Steven Burns) wrote in :


Given that WJR had broadcast in stereo for some 20 years, this is
hardly an encouraging sign for the status of AM Stereo within the
industry.

For how many of those 20 years has it been a talk station?

Back when I used to listen to it (60's through mid-70's) it had enough of a
variety of programming to make it worth using stereo, and none was
available. But who needs stereo on a talk station? It's a waste.

Who needs a pathological liar talk show host like "you know who" in stereo either!

Does ANY station in the US broadcast in stereo anymore?
More specifically, any 50kw stations or at least something I can pick
up in the US midwest at night? I purchased an AM stereo compatible
tuner about three months ago and have never even seen a hint of stereo
on the AM band.

There's one on 1660 in the NYC area but that won't do you a bit of good;
they don't speak English!

Roland

(Michael Salmons) wrote in message ...
Does ANY station in the US broadcast in stereo anymore?
More specifically, any 50kw stations or at least something I can pick
up in the US midwest at night? I purchased an AM stereo campatible
tuner about three months ago and have never even seen a hint of stereo
on the AM band.

For a comphrehensive worldwide list of AM Stereo stations, visit The
Official AM Stereo Web Site:

http://AMStereo.s5.com

In the Midwest at night, try 760 WJR from Detroit and 890 WLS from
Chicago -- both 50,000-watt AM Stereo stations with nighttime coverage
that extends for hundreds of miles. (Yes, despite the ill-named
thread here, WJR continues to broadcast in full AM Stereo to this day,
as do hundreds of other stations around the world.)

p.s. If your receiver has never triggered into Stereo mode on the AM
band, are you sure it truly has AM Stereo capability? More than a few
people have been fooled by ambiguously-labeled "FM/AM Stereo"
receivers which are actually only Stereo on the FM band. Check the
receiver list on the aforementioned web site to make sure yours is
listed.

In the Midwest at night, try 760 WJR from Detroit and 890 WLS from
Chicago -- both 50,000-watt AM Stereo stations with nighttime coverage
that extends for hundreds of miles. (Yes, despite the ill-named
thread here, WJR continues to broadcast in full AM Stereo to this day,
as do hundreds of other stations around the world.)


Thanks for that info.

p.s. If your receiver has never triggered into Stereo mode on the AM
band, are you sure it truly has AM Stereo capability? More than a few
people have been fooled by ambiguously-labeled "FM/AM Stereo"
receivers which are actually only Stereo on the FM band. Check the
receiver list on the aforementioned web site to make sure yours is
listed.

It's the Sony ST-JX520A, which is listed as being an AM Stereo tuner
on at least one of the AM Stereo web sites.

Michael

You can get a loud 120Hz hum from WFAN 660 NYC in forced stereo.
They're modulating the difference channel with it somehow.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Does ANY station in the US broadcast in stereo anymore?
More specifically, any 50kw stations or at least something I can pick
up in the US midwest at night? I purchased an AM stereo campatible
tuner about three months ago and have never even seen a hint of stereo
on the AM band.

WWKB in Buffalo lights the stereo indicator on my Delco radio, but the
programming seems to be in mono. They're pretty directional, so it's
not likely you're gonna get them in the midwest. Only other one I
know of is WILD, a daytimer in Boston. Supposedly, all the X-band
(1610-1700) stations broadcast in stereo. My stereo radio doesn't
tune that high.

It's the Sony ST-JX520A, which is listed as being an AM Stereo tuner
on at least one of the AM Stereo web sites.

It has to be the Canadian version (which specifically says "FM
Stereo/AM Stereo" on the front panel), though; the U.S. version is not
equipped with AM Stereo.

It's the Sony ST-JX520A, which is listed as being an AM Stereo tuner
on at least one of the AM Stereo web sites.

Michael

Only the Australian & Canadian models had the AM stereo. The US
version did not. This also applies to the ST-JX220A.

becko

This is accurate.

Clark Reid at KABL told me that he would turn off stereo too if it would
increase the range of the transmitter.

Too bad.

On a good receiver it is a nice sound.

Norm Howard


(Mark Roberts) wrotf:

Michael Salmons had written:
| Does ANY station in the US broadcast in stereo anymore?

KABL (960) in the San Francisco Bay Area. It appears to be the last one.
KFRC (610) dropped it four years ago. When I called up to ask about it,
they said it would be back. It wasn't. In other words, KFRC lied to me.

On 29 May 2004 00:18:48 GMT, (Mark Roberts)
wrote:

Michael Salmons had written:
| Does ANY station in the US broadcast in stereo anymore?

KABL (960) in the San Francisco Bay Area. It appears to be the last one.
KFRC (610) dropped it four years ago. When I called up to ask about it,
they said it would be back. It wasn't. In other words, KFRC lied to me.

KUZZ (AM) and KWAC in Bakersfield still run stereo. KABC in Los
Angeles was lighting the beacon last time I was down there. So was
their Radio Disney outlet, KDIS (the old KRLA, 1110).

Mark Howell

You've heard about France Bleu?
Its a 300,000W AM Stereo station which can be heard throughout Europe,
southern England and Ireland!!
And typical licenses are 5,000W!

Richard.

Try WBAP 820 from Ft. Worth, TX. 50KW Non-DA. Last check within a month or
so, still stereo. Other problem: talk format.

-G

"Michael Salmons" wrote in message
...
Does ANY station in the US broadcast in stereo anymore?
More specifically, any 50kw stations or at least something I can pick
up in the US midwest at night? I purchased an AM stereo campatible
tuner about three months ago and have never even seen a hint of stereo
on the AM band.

Michael Salmons

(misterfact) wrote in message
...
Tom Betz wrote in message
...
(Steven Burns) wrote in
:


Given that WJR had broadcast in stereo for some 20 years, this is
hardly an encouraging sign for the status of AM Stereo within the
industry.

For how many of those 20 years has it been a talk station?

Back when I used to listen to it (60's through mid-70's) it had enough
of a
variety of programming to make it worth using stereo, and none was
available. But who needs stereo on a talk station? It's a waste.

Who needs a pathological liar talk show host like "you know who" in
stereo either!