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Old July 13th 04, 05:48 PM
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Mark Roberts wrote:

What's next: analog radios with 2 kHz bandwidth so we don't hear the
buzzing noise placed there to serve receivers that don't exist?!?!?

I suspect this is the back door through which DRM will slip for
broadcast radio.


I STILL would like to know why we actually need IBOC.
On my car radio with AM stereo it sounded great.
Not to shabby either after the NRSC mask was mandated. But then who
really listens to AM for music?

Analog FM if processed reasonably is capable of holding its own
against the original product. I can see the advantage of IBOC
for FM, but not AM. I suspect the whole subject is just a scam
for someone to make money (hardware & licensing) and a way to
slip a *broadcast flag* on everything so it can't be copied.


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Charlie had written:
| Mark Roberts wrote:
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| What's next: analog radios with 2 kHz bandwidth so we don't hear the
| buzzing noise placed there to serve receivers that don't exist?!?!?
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| I suspect this is the back door through which DRM will slip for
| broadcast radio.
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| I STILL would like to know why we actually need IBOC.
| On my car radio with AM stereo it sounded great.
| Not to shabby either after the NRSC mask was mandated. But then who
| really listens to AM for music?

In San Francisco, if you want to hear an MOR station, you either
have an NCE-FM that has some limited coverage, or you have an AM
station (KABL) that still broadcasts in stereo.

In other cases, some specialty formats, mostly of the ethnic
variety, are available only on AM -- an exactly reversal of the
situation vis-a-vis FM 40 to 50 years ago.

| I suspect the whole subject is just a scam
| for someone to make money (hardware & licensing) and a way to
| slip a *broadcast flag* on everything so it can't be copied.

Precisely! The control freakery being exerted by content providers
is just going to end up chasing people away from the media.

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Old July 14th 04, 06:33 AM
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"Charlie" wrote in message ...
Mark Roberts wrote:

What's next: analog radios with 2 kHz bandwidth so we don't hear the
buzzing noise placed there to serve receivers that don't exist?!?!?

I suspect this is the back door through which DRM will slip for
broadcast radio.


I STILL would like to know why we actually need IBOC.
On my car radio with AM stereo it sounded great.
Not to shabby either after the NRSC mask was mandated. But then who
really listens to AM for music?

Analog FM if processed reasonably is capable of holding its own
against the original product. I can see the advantage of IBOC
for FM, but not AM. I suspect the whole subject is just a scam
for someone to make money (hardware & licensing) and a way to
slip a *broadcast flag* on everything so it can't be copied.


That's my take, too. I had no trouble getting an AM audio chain to sound pretty darn
good, mono or stereo, a situation which, from the assessments here (as well as the
samples provided by...was it Ron?) can't compare to what IBOC leaves you with.

The irony about your suggestion that IBOC is just a scam to get programming locked
down is that who would want to save the garbage that IBOC creates?

I gotta tell you....had I not quit the business in the 80s, I'd probably do so now.
There's just no future in it, considering the crackerjacks who are pushing this
"innovation". IBOC is D-O-A.
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