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Steveo September 27th 06 01:47 AM

Thought this was puzzling...
 
Frank Gilliland wrote:
And Viagra was designed to be a heart medication.

I thought it was for male pattern baldness initially.

U-Know-Who September 27th 06 02:06 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ups.com...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Wrong. The ceramic package isn't hollow; on the contrary, it contacts
more of the junction's surface area than the heat sink flange (which,
BTW, doesn't make "intimate contact" with any part of the junction
because it is insulated from the die by the Be Oxide substrate).



If the ceramic cap is tied so well to the heat source internal to the
transistor... then why don't you just attach the heat sink to the
ceramic caps on your new design?... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


You're a ****ing idiot dickhead. You simply don't have any common sense.



Steveo September 27th 06 02:08 AM

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"U-Know-Who" wrote:
www.telSLAP-electronics.com



You're a ****ing idiot dickhead. You simply don't have any common sense.

He gets to post his free google spam sig with every reply tho..

U-Know-Who September 27th 06 02:10 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
oups.com...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Actually, that's not such a bad idea. Computer processors and other
chips are encased in ceramic and the heat sinks are typically mounted
on top. Having an additional heat sink on the top of the transistor
certainly can't hurt. I'll check into this and see if it's do-able.


I hate to tell you that processor chips (and some others) are specially
designed to attach the sink on the top... the RF transistors we're
talking about are not.


You really are more of moron than thought.



U-Know-Who September 27th 06 02:12 AM

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"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
And Viagra was designed to be a heart medication.

I thought it was for male pattern baldness initially.


They all fix other two. Even if transplants are in order, the new esteem
will find the bills for the other two.



U-Know-Who September 27th 06 02:16 AM

Thought this was puzzling...
 

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"U-Know-Who" wrote:
www.telSLAP-electronics.com


You're a ****ing idiot dickhead. You simply don't have any common sense.

He gets to post his free google spam sig with every reply tho..


But I still love snipping it in my reply. Of course, he'll make another wise
and omnipotent statement he



Steveo September 27th 06 02:21 AM

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"U-Know-Who" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
And Viagra was designed to be a heart medication.

I thought it was for male pattern baldness initially.


They all fix other two. Even if transplants are in order, the new esteem
will find the bills for the other two.

Or once you start banging again in your old age, we can sell you some heart
medicine too. Billionaires.

Frank Gilliland September 27th 06 06:15 AM

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On 26 Sep 2006 16:10:26 -0700, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

LeIand C. Scot wrote:
http://perso.orange.fr/f6itv/p2032001.htm (look at location of diodes in
photo at right side)


Yes, this method is similar to a few "reference" designs shown in the
Motorola RF Data Manual . This is a poor method for two resaons. The
first is what I explained before... trying to get two diodes in
parallel to turn on together is very difficult... if not impossible on
a repeatable basis.



In the link above the diodes are not in parallel at all. Look at the
schematic.

In the link you initially provided they are indeed in parallel, but
that doesn't mean they are intended to conduct equal currents. If that
were the case then they would have current equalizing resistors in
series with each diode. From what I can see in the picture, it's clear
that only one diode will be working at any given time: the hot one.
And I'm sure that's exactly what was intended.


Second, the emitters you are feeding with the DC
bias are very low impedance.



Very low voltage, too. Some might even call it a "ground potential".
The bases, on the other hand......


This creates its own problem when
attempting to control the base current. This biasing scheme with temp
compensation is a "brute force" method that dissipates large amounts of
power... and plain doesn't work well.



Apparently it works well enough for a homebrew amp.


It's not the first time that
circuits shown in a reference manual are not production ready.



Hey, look what I found on a quick google search:

================
On 31 Jul 2005 15:58:33 -0700, "Professor"
wrote in
.com:


Frank... I wish I was like you... never wrong... and never had to be
corrected.



Yes, I already knew that, Brian. I tried to turn you onto the right
path years ago when you were hacking basic Motorola AN circuits that
were intended to be starting designs for engineers, not finished
products to be built by CB ampheads. But you were just too impatient
to get your "product" sold and get your share of that illegal market.
After damage control backfired in your face (because of your lack of
education) you vanished. Now you pop back up to spam the group every
time you think you have an improvement. You haven't made very many
changes, but look at the ones you -did- make -- all were suggestions
that I made when I told you all the reasons your amp sucked. Maybe you
learned those things from me or maybe somewhere else, but I was right
and you know it......
================

So contrary to recent opinion polls, it's clear that you -can- learn
things. You just can't admit that you learned anything from someone
else because that might be bad for business.


Motorola
also shows a much better method of temp comp bias in that same data
manual. It uses an op amp and sink mounted thermistor. I'm also using
an "active" approach to the temp comp bias in my amplifier... but a
totally different circuit using a bipolar transistor as the sense and
gain mechanism. I can hold the 500mA bias to 10% from -30 to +85C.



Hey Jan, wanna know why Brian won't cut loose his schematic? Because
Brian is a hack and his special bias circuit was most likely ripped
from this link, which was posted in this group a couple years ago:

http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek/tr-bias/tr-bias1.htm







Telstar Electronics September 27th 06 10:59 AM

Thought this was puzzling...
 
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Hey Jan, wanna know why Brian won't cut loose his schematic? Because
Brian is a hack and his special bias circuit was most likely ripped
from this link, which was posted in this group a couple years ago:

http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek/tr-bias/tr-bias1.htm


Yes Frank... look for an ally. Lord knows you need one... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


Telstar Electronics September 27th 06 11:05 AM

Thought this was puzzling...
 
Frank Gilliland wrote:
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek/tr-bias/tr-bias1.htm


Thanks Frank for posting this link. It supports what I've been saying
all along about the plain-old diode method working like crap. So why
don't you go ahead and use that method on your new amp... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com



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