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Aurora on 27 megs
Hearing many close-in stations due to the CME or Aurora. I don't recall the
last time I've heard Aurora on 27. A.E. 352 |
Aurora on 27 megs
"A.E. 352" wrote:
Hearing many close-in stations due to the CME or Aurora. I don't recall the last time I've heard Aurora on 27. A.E. 352 Things sound a bit wacky over here too. See this? http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...lar_storm.html |
Aurora on 27 megs
Hello A.E. 352:
What does the Aurors sound like???? Supposed to hit the upper USA tonight. Jay in the Mojave A.E. 352 wrote: Hearing many close-in stations due to the CME or Aurora. I don't recall the last time I've heard Aurora on 27. A.E. 352 |
Aurora on 27 megs
Aurora kinda' makes stations sound like they're talking underwater.
Generally, if a beam is pointed North it clears up the received audio a bit. "Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message ... Hello A.E. 352: What does the Aurors sound like???? Supposed to hit the upper USA tonight. Jay in the Mojave A.E. 352 wrote: Hearing many close-in stations due to the CME or Aurora. I don't recall the last time I've heard Aurora on 27. A.E. 352 |
Aurora on 27 megs
Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello A.E. 352: What does the Aurors sound like???? Supposed to hit the upper USA tonight. Jay in the Mojave A.E. 352 wrote: Hearing many close-in stations due to the CME or Aurora. I don't recall the last time I've heard Aurora on 27. A.E. 352 Hi Jay It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power supply behind their transmitter. |
Aurora on 27 megs
Hello A.E 352 and Steveo:
Ok that sounds like multi pathing to me! That is two or more signals of the same station arriving at the different times to the receiver. In FM its really bad. I once bought a FM Broadcast Band Directional Beam Antenna. I wanted to hear a FM Station over the hills in Santa Monica. It was KNAC heavy Rock n Roll Station, that no one could hear. I installed a mast next to the side of the front of the house. And pointed the beam towards Santa Monica to hear KNAC. I could hear several stations on the same frequency and a lot of distortion. After turning the beam away from the Santa Monica, and towards the mountains behind my house KNAC came in loud and clear, and full quieting, even had the "Stereo" Light come on. But station was a disappointment. http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/multipath.html But I did learn about multi path. I wonder if the radio signals are bouncing off the Aurora and having multipath? I know I have heard local power stations have their signal bounce off a local atmosphere, causing back scatter, and those signals wernt strong enough to miltipath. I think. Jay in the Mojave Steveo wrote: It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power supply behind their transmitter. |
Aurora on 27 megs
Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello A.E 352 and Steveo: Ok that sounds like multi pathing to me! That is two or more signals of the same station arriving at the different times to the receiver. In FM its really bad. I once bought a FM Broadcast Band Directional Beam Antenna. I wanted to hear a FM Station over the hills in Santa Monica. It was KNAC heavy Rock n Roll Station, that no one could hear. I installed a mast next to the side of the front of the house. And pointed the beam towards Santa Monica to hear KNAC. I could hear several stations on the same frequency and a lot of distortion. After turning the beam away from the Santa Monica, and towards the mountains behind my house KNAC came in loud and clear, and full quieting, even had the "Stereo" Light come on. But station was a disappointment. http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/multipath.html But I did learn about multi path. I wonder if the radio signals are bouncing off the Aurora and having multipath? I know I have heard local power stations have their signal bounce off a local atmosphere, causing back scatter, and those signals wernt strong enough to miltipath. I think. Jay in the Mojave It could have very well been the multi path you are describing Jay, it does make for some strange sounding audio for sure. Warble is the best way I can describe it. I just got done putting up my beam about a half hour ago and sat down for some lunch, and of course the band is quiet over here for the time being. Maybe we can stir 'em up later. Steveo wrote: It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power supply behind their transmitter. |
Aurora on 27 megs
Steveo wrote:
Hello Steveo: Tell us how the beam goes. When ya get a chance. Jay in the Mojave It could have very well been the multi path you are describing Jay, it does make for some strange sounding audio for sure. Warble is the best way I can describe it. I just got done putting up my beam about a half hour ago and sat down for some lunch, and of course the band is quiet over here for the time being. Maybe we can stir 'em up later. Steveo wrote: It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power supply behind their transmitter. |
Aurora on 27 megs
Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Steveo wrote: Hello Steveo: Tell us how the beam goes. When ya get a chance. Jay in the Mojave Hi again, Jay It's been scary quiet over here so far but it's the same in my portable. I did make a couple three local contacts tho, and tried both the horizontal and vertical elements with good reports. The swr barely moves on either too..so far so good.. I need a band opening to really try it out. I'll leave you know via the airwaves if it's really working, Jay. |
Aurora on 27 megs
Hello Jay
Dunno if that's you in HRHG, but 6 meters was really wild, I guess, from what I'm hearing. You need SSB (or possibly CW) to work it. Too much flutter otherwise. Too much multipath (and changing constantly at that) otherwise (for FM). Why is it that there is more intelligent conversation and discussion of more interesting modes in the cb group than the ham group? Curious minds and that :D 73 from Rochester, NY Jim "Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message ... Hello A.E 352 and Steveo: Ok that sounds like multi pathing to me! That is two or more signals of the same station arriving at the different times to the receiver. In FM its really bad. I once bought a FM Broadcast Band Directional Beam Antenna. I wanted to hear a FM Station over the hills in Santa Monica. It was KNAC heavy Rock n Roll Station, that no one could hear. I installed a mast next to the side of the front of the house. And pointed the beam towards Santa Monica to hear KNAC. I could hear several stations on the same frequency and a lot of distortion. After turning the beam away from the Santa Monica, and towards the mountains behind my house KNAC came in loud and clear, and full quieting, even had the "Stereo" Light come on. But station was a disappointment. http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/multipath.html But I did learn about multi path. I wonder if the radio signals are bouncing off the Aurora and having multipath? I know I have heard local power stations have their signal bounce off a local atmosphere, causing back scatter, and those signals wernt strong enough to miltipath. I think. Jay in the Mojave Steveo wrote: It made stations sound warbled sorta like when someone has a low power supply behind their transmitter. |
Aurora on 27 megs
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
Why is it that there is more intelligent conversation and discussion of more interesting modes in the cb group than the ham group? Curious minds and that :D 73 from Rochester, NY Jim Hello Jim Most ham radio operators are ex-CBer's right? |
Aurora on 27 megs
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:30:23 GMT, "A.E. 352"
wrote: Hearing many close-in stations due to the CME or Aurora. I don't recall the last time I've heard Aurora on 27. A.E. 352 A few years back I was pointed straight north and talked to a fellow that sounded like he was underwater. I found out that he was 100 miles due east. I then pointed directly at him and could barely hear him. I returned the beam due north and talked to him via the aurora without a problem other than the underwater sound. |
Aurora on 27 megs
Hello Jim:
HRHG? Don't know what this is??!?. I have built Interceptor 10K Antenna (left over tubing scraps) to the 6 meter band. I am not on a lot but once in a while make a contact. Usually above 50.125 USB, something like 50.150 to 50.200 USB. Yeah I guess a lot of the guys here have stopped replying to the goof balls here, as in other news groups. I read a few other news groups as well as this one. If we stop replying to the trolls they will go away, just like in school when the trouble makers didn't get any attention, or got socked in the eye they went away. Speaking of odd conditions and such. I was once went fishing in Las Vegas, Lake Mead area. One night after a great fish dinner, I hear one of the local guys from the Local Mojave Desert talking skip. His signal was strong enough to bounce off the atmosphere and back down into the Las Vegas area. Kind of wild I thought, thinking this was a back scatter signal. But me with a stock radio, and no microphone I could not reply. I have also heard signals from places just a few hundred miles away, they came in slowly strong, then slowly went away. What was that? Jay in the Mojave Its best to leave Cookies and Milk out Christmas Eve. Jim Hampton wrote: Hello Jay Dunno if that's you in HRHG, but 6 meters was really wild, I guess, from what I'm hearing. You need SSB (or possibly CW) to work it. Too much flutter otherwise. Too much multipath (and changing constantly at that) otherwise (for FM). Why is it that there is more intelligent conversation and discussion of more interesting modes in the cb group than the ham group? Curious minds and that :D 73 from Rochester, NY Jim |
Aurora on 27 megs
"Jay in the Mojave" wrote in message ... Hello Jim: HRHG? Don't know what this is??!?. I have built Interceptor 10K Antenna (left over tubing scraps) to the 6 meter band. I am not on a lot but once in a while make a contact. Usually above 50.125 USB, something like 50.150 to 50.200 USB. Yeah I guess a lot of the guys here have stopped replying to the goof balls here, as in other news groups. I read a few other news groups as well as this one. If we stop replying to the trolls they will go away, just like in school when the trouble makers didn't get any attention, or got socked in the eye they went away. Speaking of odd conditions and such. I was once went fishing in Las Vegas, Lake Mead area. One night after a great fish dinner, I hear one of the local guys from the Local Mojave Desert talking skip. His signal was strong enough to bounce off the atmosphere and back down into the Las Vegas area. Kind of wild I thought, thinking this was a back scatter signal. But me with a stock radio, and no microphone I could not reply. I have also heard signals from places just a few hundred miles away, they came in slowly strong, then slowly went away. What was that? Jay in the Mojave Its best to leave Cookies and Milk out Christmas Eve. Jim Hampton wrote: Hello Jay Dunno if that's you in HRHG, but 6 meters was really wild, I guess, from what I'm hearing. You need SSB (or possibly CW) to work it. Too much flutter otherwise. Too much multipath (and changing constantly at that) otherwise (for FM). Why is it that there is more intelligent conversation and discussion of more interesting modes in the cb group than the ham group? Curious minds and that :D 73 from Rochester, NY Jim Did you guys forget we also had a meteor shower? Could that be the missing link in all the weird contacts? |
Aurora on 27 megs
Hello UKW:
No It didn't happen during the recent meteor shower. I have seen some of the real nut cakes in the SUV's all loaded down with yagi beam antennas, trying to shoot some VHF & UHF DX off the rocket launches from Vandanburg. Man these SUV's are loaded with radio equipment, antennas, and I counted 7 external speakers. And many mic cords hanging down. And they where all on and loud!. Gives me a headache. Jay in the Mojave Its best to leave out Coockies and Milk on Christmas Eve. U-Know-Who wrote: Did you guys forget we also had a meteor shower? Could that be the missing link in all the weird contacts? |
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