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Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
Many times these are on in the same. It's not a secret that some Amateur
Radio operators (HAMs) have been critical of CB'ers, in the past, and most times unjustifiably. Sometimes correctly however a great many Ham Operators not only came from CB but are currently still operating CB'ers. Here though is the point of my post. With the FCC dropping the Morse Code requirement many that would have never before thought about becoming a HAM might give it a thought. Being a Ham, and CB'er (former KBD5746, yeah I actually had a CB License and still remember it) I know that HAM radio thrives because of the influx of new blood. That new blood is usually from the CB ranks. I can't say that you'll find better operators, you will in places and you won't on some bands, but it does open up additional avenues to experiment with areas of communications and the type equipment you would use (computers, satellite, FM etc) and also provides a lot more legal band space from which to work skip, or other stations all over the world. For truck drivers it is analogous to getting XM or Sirus Radio verses local radio channels. FM Repeaters can keep you in contact for Hundreds of miles apart and if you enjoy working challenging stations on low power then it is there also. Are there still "old Hams" that snarl at the thought of a CB operator? Sure there are just as there are CB operators that criticize and malign Ham Radio Operators. Many CB operators have Ham equipment that they are using now (Yaesu FT101s' and Kenwood TS520s or better). Ham Equipment is also affordable to the entry level operators that don't have a fortune to invest. It's not uncommon to find Yaesu's and Kenwood's going from $200 - $350.00 on eBay these days). Most Ham's make their own antenna out of copper wire and spend a minimal getting on the air. Without the code now the only barrier to obtaining that Ham License is taking a test of Electrical Theory (most interesting to know anyway), Operating Procedures, and Rules and Regulations. I for one think that the more activity we can keep going the better it is for all of us therefore the post I made today. |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
Gary KW4Z wrote:
Many times these are on in the same. Yes sir. Happy New Year, Gary. |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
I haven't given up my CB just because I've got a ticket. Sound reasoning. |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
I turned on my CB to catch Christmas CBer and to make that all important
first contact. It was pouring Monday so no one came out to try their CB. I did make a few random FRS contacts. Nice to have an FRS that scans. I expect the test sessions to be quite packed with all the fuss I've been hearing on my Parts 95 and 97. I haven't given up my CB just because I've got a ticket. The SSB net is now mostly hams. It wasn't that way five years ago. |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
I keep a CB in my jeep next to the 2m for when I get tired of
self-righteous hams and want to hear some infantile CB'ers |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
Nelson Blaha wrote:
I keep a CB in my jeep next to the 2m for when I get tired of self-righteous hams and want to hear some infantile CB'ers LOL www.telstar-electronics.com |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message oups.com... Nelson Blaha wrote: I keep a CB in my jeep next to the 2m for when I get tired of self-righteous hams and want to hear some infantile CB'ers LOL www.telstar-electronics.com Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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U-Know-Who wrote:
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message oups.com... Nelson Blaha wrote: I keep a CB in my jeep next to the 2m for when I get tired of self-righteous hams and want to hear some infantile CB'ers LOL www.telstar-electronics.com Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com LOL |
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"jim" wrote in message ... U-Know-Who wrote: "Telstar Electronics" wrote in message oups.com... Nelson Blaha wrote: I keep a CB in my jeep next to the 2m for when I get tired of self-righteous hams and want to hear some infantile CB'ers LOL www.telstar-electronics.com Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com LOL LOL!!!!!! Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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U-Know-Who wrote:
Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes. You're quite right... but it's really not because they are splatterboxes... as you put it. Really, they are quite linear with the fully temperature controlled AB-Biasing (active transistor tracking.. not just plain diode). It's usually because they can't afford one... www.telstar-electronics.com |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message oups.com... U-Know-Who wrote: Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes. You're quite right... but it's really not because they are splatterboxes... as you put it. Really, they are quite linear with the fully temperature controlled AB-Biasing (active transistor tracking.. not just plain diode). It's usually because they can't afford one... www.telstar-electronics.com I see. I suppose the kitchen production line is still giving you troubles? Just can't seem to find that magic balance between sales and costs? "LOL" Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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On 1 Jan 2007 15:52:12 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in .com: U-Know-Who wrote: Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes. You're quite right... but it's really not because they are splatterboxes... as you put it. Really, they are quite linear with the fully temperature controlled AB-Biasing (active transistor tracking.. not just plain diode). It's usually because they can't afford one... I've explained this to you many times before, Brian, but obviously it didn't sink in. So here you go: linearity -- 1. The relationship existing between two quantities when a change in a second quantity is directly proportionate to a change in the first quantity. 2. Deviation from a straight-line response to an input signal..... etc, etc, etc. Now look at the response curve in the spec sheet that -YOU- wrote for -YOUR- amp. Is that a straight line? No, not unless you are either drunk or using noneuclidean geometry. Your amp, by definition, is non-linear. |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
u-Know-Who wrote:
I see. I suppose the kitchen production line is still giving you troubles? Just can't seem to find that magic balance between sales and costs? "LOL" You are absolutely right... my production is extremely limited and I command a premium price. I produce around one amp per month now. With all the projects I have going now... that's just fine for my needs. www.telstar-electronics.com |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Now look at the response curve in the spec sheet that -YOU- wrote for -YOUR- amp. Is that a straight line? No, not unless you are either drunk or using noneuclidean geometry. Your amp, by definition, is non-linear. Frank... are you back on the sauce again? The line in the spec sheet looks awful straight to me... except at the 1dB compression point. That's the point where the linearity stops... hello Frank. Are you just playing dumb again? www.telstar-electronics.com |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
On 2 Jan 2007 05:21:19 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in . com: Frank Gilliland wrote: Now look at the response curve in the spec sheet that -YOU- wrote for -YOUR- amp. Is that a straight line? No, not unless you are either drunk or using noneuclidean geometry. Your amp, by definition, is non-linear. Frank... are you back on the sauce again? The line in the spec sheet looks awful straight to me... except at the 1dB compression point. That's the point where the linearity stops... hello Frank. Are you just playing dumb again? First, let's revisit one question that you have repeatedly ignored: The power gain of one transistor is 15 dB. Your amp is rated for 15dB. So why does it have two transistors? Now for the math. Staying within your "linear" region, here are the numbers from the last revision of your data sheet (can't seem to find the current sheet on your site; I wonder why....LOL!!!): Input: 1 watt Carrier: 47 watts 100% mod: 71 watts There's the base. Now let's look at the next line: Input: 2 watts Carrier: 84 watts 100% mod: 126 watts Hmmm..... since you multiplied the input by two, the output of a linear amp would also be multiplied by two. IOW, your carrier and 100% mod outputs should be 94 watts and 142 watts, respectively. Next line: Input: 3 watts Carrier: 120 watts 100% mod: 180 watts Well, you may not be using Bird watts but it's clear that you flunked third-grade math. I'm pretty sure that 47 x 3 = 141, and 71 x 3 = 213. Is this the "new math"? or are you just using the 'force'? And with that 1dB "compression point", are you trying to suggest, or even subtly imply, that this is insignificant? I hope not because at your 1dB "compression point" you are pumping 34 watts of pure harmonic distortion into the air..... with an unmodulated carrier!!! Are you finally going to address these issues? Or are you going to crawl back into your corner and pout for a few more months? |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Are you finally going to address these issues? Or are you going to crawl back into your corner and pout for a few more months? Rather than a pointless argument with you Frank... think I'll go to my corner... LOL www.telstar-electronics.com |
Ham Radio Operators & CB'ers
On 2 Jan 2007 07:50:15 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in .com: Frank Gilliland wrote: Are you finally going to address these issues? Or are you going to crawl back into your corner and pout for a few more months? Rather than a pointless argument with you Frank... think I'll go to my corner... LOL In your own little corner, in your own little chair, you can be whatever you want to be..... even an electronics engineer. After all, impossible things are happening everyday! |
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