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Telstar Electronics January 11th 07 06:55 PM

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http://www.k7dyy.com/processor.htm


james January 11th 07 10:25 PM

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On 11 Jan 2007 10:55:20 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote:

+++http://www.k7dyy.com/processor.htm

*********

USes the same IC as Brian's? I wonder, naw he wouldn't....

james

Telstar Electronics January 12th 07 10:49 AM

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james wrote:
USes the same IC as Brian's? I wonder, naw he wouldn't....


Yes... Frank ought to be in here shortly... saying that I'm hacking
this guys design... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


Frank Gilliland January 12th 07 03:08 PM

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On 12 Jan 2007 02:49:08 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
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james wrote:
USes the same IC as Brian's? I wonder, naw he wouldn't....


Yes... Frank ought to be in here shortly... saying that I'm hacking
this guys design... LOL



Why would I say a thing like that? It's not like you've never designed
anything that wasn't at least 95% someone else's work. And even though
your understanding of electronics can be compared to Swiss cheese, I'm
sure you spend a lot of your free time studying, right? Just because
your early education in electronics was from 2-bit television circuits
designed for the purpose of patent-leeching, that doesn't mean you
-have- to follow in your father's footsteps. And speaking of your
father, I have no doubt that you pay rent for living in his house.
After all, I'm sure you wouldn't want to live as an adult that needs
to be supported by his parents, because that would be pathetic.

Yes Brian, you are certainly a man that can design his own circuits,
be his own boss, stand on his own two feet and not need to rest his
fat, lazy ass on the labor and laurels of others.

Now..... where's that schematic?





Telstar Electronics January 12th 07 03:35 PM

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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Why would I say a thing like that? It's not like you've never designed
anything that wasn't at least 95% someone else's work. And even though
your understanding of electronics can be compared to Swiss cheese, I'm
sure you spend a lot of your free time studying, right? Just because
your early education in electronics was from 2-bit television circuits
designed for the purpose of patent-leeching, that doesn't mean you
-have- to follow in your father's footsteps. And speaking of your
father, I have no doubt that you pay rent for living in his house.
After all, I'm sure you wouldn't want to live as an adult that needs
to be supported by his parents, because that would be pathetic.


I knew you'd show up... the nut case is right on schedule... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


james January 12th 07 10:33 PM

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On 12 Jan 2007 02:49:08 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote:

+++james wrote:
+++ USes the same IC as Brian's? I wonder, naw he wouldn't....
+++
+++Yes... Frank ought to be in here shortly... saying that I'm hacking
+++this guys design... LOL
+++
+++www.telstar-electronics.com

**********

You probably used the schematics from the evaluation board and maybe
tweeked a resistor and/or capacitor value.

But then it is a good starting place.

james

Telstar Electronics January 13th 07 12:31 AM

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james wrote:
You probably used the schematics from the evaluation board and maybe
tweeked a resistor and/or capacitor value.


Thanks for your insight...

Don't miss seeing the new CB Radio Speech Processor Prototype at
http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...s/WhatsNew.htm


Frank Gilliland January 13th 07 02:23 PM

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On 12 Jan 2007 07:35:50 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Why would I say a thing like that? It's not like you've never designed
anything that wasn't at least 95% someone else's work. And even though
your understanding of electronics can be compared to Swiss cheese, I'm
sure you spend a lot of your free time studying, right? Just because
your early education in electronics was from 2-bit television circuits
designed for the purpose of patent-leeching, that doesn't mean you
-have- to follow in your father's footsteps. And speaking of your
father, I have no doubt that you pay rent for living in his house.
After all, I'm sure you wouldn't want to live as an adult that needs
to be supported by his parents, because that would be pathetic.


I knew you'd show up... the nut case is right on schedule... LOL



That's because most nut cases who work for a living usually -have- to
live by a schedule. Maybe some day you'll...... aw, who am I kidding.
Let me tell you a little story, Brian:

Several years ago I came across this old guy up in Mead (a small town
just North of here). He had amassed a HUGE amount of very cool stuff
in a warehouse; just about everything electronic to the mundane to the
riduculous. Piles of electrolytic caps almost as big as your head,
55-gallon drums loaded with old tubes, shelves stacked to the roof
with radios and test equipment from antique to modern, 50-cubes filled
with circuit boards and assemblies, etc, etc, etc. He even had an old
portable BC station in a van, complete with an AN/FRT-39 and a 40hp
diesel generator. Very cool stuff. Every time I showed up he was open
for business...... but would never sell anything! You see, someone had
given him this stupid book that told how to make money from the scrap
metals in electronics. So every time I walked in the door there was
the old man in his wheelchair, smashing transmitter and big old audio
power tubes for a few micrograms of thorium, crushing and desoldering
RF power transistors and vintage chips for maybe a penny's worth of
gold, and all the while bumming smokes from me. Eventually I started
to feel sorry for the fart so I explained that most of the stuff was
worth a hell of a lot more if left intact. I even offered to put some
of the stuff on ebay to prove it to him, but he couldn't shake the
thought that it might have gold in it. Going with that, and having
worked at Johnson-Matthey, I explained that the gold-plated chip lids
didn't have nearly as much gold as the solder that held them on. But
he wouldn't hear of such a thing because the lids were gold and the
solder was white. You couldn't talk sense to the guy because he firmly
believed that he was going to get rich from the info in that idiotic
book. After a few more visits I finally gave up. A couple years later
the building and its contents were condemned in order to make way for
the new freeway. A month later I picked up the van at a county auction
for $200. Just a short time after that he died, alone and broke, in a
nursing home. What a waste. And all because he allowed himself to be
locked him into a mindset of greed that shut out the advice of anyone
else, refusing to see all the wealth he really had, focusing only on
the glitter.

Maybe you're smart enough to learn something from that, Brian. Or
maybe you're not. Only time will tell.





Telstar Electronics January 15th 07 01:26 AM

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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Several years ago I came across this old guy up in Mead (a small town
just North of here). He had amassed a HUGE amount of very cool stuff
in a warehouse; just about everything electronic to the mundane to the
riduculous. Piles of electrolytic caps almost as big as your head,
55-gallon drums loaded with old tubes, shelves stacked to the roof
with radios and test equipment from antique to modern, 50-cubes filled
with circuit boards and assemblies, etc, etc, etc. He even had an old
portable BC station in a van, complete with an AN/FRT-39 and a 40hp
diesel generator. Very cool stuff. Every time I showed up he was open
for business...... but would never sell anything! You see, someone had
given him this stupid book that told how to make money from the scrap
metals in electronics. So every time I walked in the door there was
the old man in his wheelchair, smashing transmitter and big old audio
power tubes for a few micrograms of thorium, crushing and desoldering
RF power transistors and vintage chips for maybe a penny's worth of
gold, and all the while bumming smokes from me. Eventually I started
to feel sorry for the fart so I explained that most of the stuff was
worth a hell of a lot more if left intact. I even offered to put some
of the stuff on ebay to prove it to him, but he couldn't shake the
thought that it might have gold in it. Going with that, and having
worked at Johnson-Matthey, I explained that the gold-plated chip lids
didn't have nearly as much gold as the solder that held them on. But
he wouldn't hear of such a thing because the lids were gold and the
solder was white. You couldn't talk sense to the guy because he firmly
believed that he was going to get rich from the info in that idiotic
book. After a few more visits I finally gave up. A couple years later
the building and its contents were condemned in order to make way for
the new freeway. A month later I picked up the van at a county auction
for $200. Just a short time after that he died, alone and broke, in a
nursing home. What a waste. And all because he allowed himself to be
locked him into a mindset of greed that shut out the advice of anyone
else, refusing to see all the wealth he really had, focusing only on
the glitter.

Maybe you're smart enough to learn something from that, Brian. Or
maybe you're not. Only time will tell.


Although this story is touching... I don't see why your telling it to
me. You seem to fault this man for not listening to you.
You are really full of yourself (and other things).
Is it so surprising that I'm not the only one that doesn't listen to
you... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


Frank Gilliland January 15th 07 06:18 PM

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On 14 Jan 2007 17:26:53 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
. com:

Frank Gilliland wrote:

snip
Maybe you're smart enough to learn something from that, Brian. Or
maybe you're not. Only time will tell.


Although this story is touching... I don't see why your telling it to
me. You seem to fault this man for not listening to you.



Clearly I overestimated your reading comprehension. To summarize, the
old man died miserably and I ended up with a 5kW HF transmitter
station. I feel sorry for the guy, but do you think I'm complaining
about it?


You are really full of yourself (and other things).



True. But that doesn't diminish the fact that an obsession can make a
person irrational. The old man got obsessed about the gold and forgot
about the underlying motivation. Likewise, you are so obsessed about
defending your facade of credibility that you reject any advice, from
me and a lot of others in this group, that could legitimize your
credentials.

Put more simply, your "hack-&-quack" business plan is doomed to fail.


Is it so surprising that I'm not the only one that doesn't listen to
you... LOL



Your response to my post is prima facie to the contrary, just as your
continued spamming of the group is proof that your "products" are
junk. You've taken my advice before -- take it again now.




Telstar Electronics January 16th 07 02:01 AM

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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Put more simply, your "hack-&-quack" business plan is doomed to fail.


You seemed to be preoccupied with me failing. Why don't you let me
worry about that. So far... it hasn't happened... and my business is
doing fine. You might want to try and review your own life instead of
everybody elses.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Frank Gilliland January 16th 07 03:17 AM

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On 15 Jan 2007 18:01:55 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
om:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Put more simply, your "hack-&-quack" business plan is doomed to fail.


You seemed to be preoccupied with me failing. Why don't you let me
worry about that. So far... it hasn't happened... and my business is
doing fine.



Uh-huh.


You might want to try and review your own life instead of
everybody elses.



Not "everybody elses" life, Brian.

Your business became my business because of all the techno-BS you
throw around in here with your spam. I figured that it would be much
better if you could actually learn something and provide -useful- and
-accurate- technical advice instead of half-baked misconceptions about
amplifier classes, linearity, modulation, etc, etc. It would be good
for your business and it would be good for the group -- a win-win
scenario. I can't fathom why you, in your apparent desire to build and
grow a successful business, can't see the obvious benefits to such an
approach. Instead, you engage your critics by shoveling more BS on top
of your original piles. You've been doing it in here for ten years and
it just doesn't make sense. That is, unless you're just a hack.

If you're a -real- electronics engineer then let's see the schematic
for your amp. If not then don't expect me or anyone else to cut you
any slack as long as you continue to spam your crap and shovel your BS
in this group. Fair enough?




Telstar Electronics January 16th 07 10:56 AM

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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Your business became my business because of all the techno-BS you
throw around in here with your spam. I figured that it would be much
better if you could actually learn something and provide -useful- and
-accurate- technical advice instead of half-baked misconceptions about
amplifier classes, linearity, modulation, etc, etc. It would be good
for your business and it would be good for the group -- a win-win
scenario. I can't fathom why you, in your apparent desire to build and
grow a successful business, can't see the obvious benefits to such an
approach. Instead, you engage your critics by shoveling more BS on top
of your original piles. You've been doing it in here for ten years and
it just doesn't make sense. That is, unless you're just a hack.

If you're a -real- electronics engineer then let's see the schematic
for your amp. If not then don't expect me or anyone else to cut you
any slack as long as you continue to spam your crap and shovel your BS
in this group. Fair enough?


Frank, I will continue to post for another ten years... maybe
longer...LOL... despite your harassment. Actually, it seems good for
business. My customers often comment on your ridiculous attacks.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Frank Gilliland January 16th 07 03:06 PM

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On 16 Jan 2007 02:56:51 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
om:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Your business became my business because of all the techno-BS you
throw around in here with your spam. I figured that it would be much
better if you could actually learn something and provide -useful- and
-accurate- technical advice instead of half-baked misconceptions about
amplifier classes, linearity, modulation, etc, etc. It would be good
for your business and it would be good for the group -- a win-win
scenario. I can't fathom why you, in your apparent desire to build and
grow a successful business, can't see the obvious benefits to such an
approach. Instead, you engage your critics by shoveling more BS on top
of your original piles. You've been doing it in here for ten years and
it just doesn't make sense. That is, unless you're just a hack.

If you're a -real- electronics engineer then let's see the schematic
for your amp. If not then don't expect me or anyone else to cut you
any slack as long as you continue to spam your crap and shovel your BS
in this group. Fair enough?


Frank, I will continue to post for another ten years... maybe
longer...LOL... despite your harassment.



Fine with me. You're only hurting yourself.


Actually, it seems good for
business. My customers often comment on your ridiculous attacks.



Uh-huh. You bet, Brian. It's not like your customers can't google your
incompetent ramblings in the archives. Kinda makes you wonder how many
potential customers you -lost- with your technical hocus-pocus, such
as your three square-foot ground plane fiasco. I'll bet -both- of your
customers laughed their asses off with that one..... I know I did!!!




Telstar Electronics January 16th 07 06:51 PM

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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Uh-huh. You bet, Brian. It's not like your customers can't google your
incompetent ramblings in the archives. Kinda makes you wonder how many
potential customers you -lost- with your technical hocus-pocus, such
as your three square-foot ground plane fiasco. I'll bet -both- of your
customers laughed their asses off with that one..... I know I did!!!


Frank, you're an old man peering through the NG window... constantly
monitoring what everyone is doing... and in everybody elses business.
Gramps... get a life... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


U-Know-Who January 17th 07 12:21 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ups.com...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Uh-huh. You bet, Brian. It's not like your customers can't google your
incompetent ramblings in the archives. Kinda makes you wonder how many
potential customers you -lost- with your technical hocus-pocus, such
as your three square-foot ground plane fiasco. I'll bet -both- of your
customers laughed their asses off with that one..... I know I did!!!



BTW Brian, you never did give us your formula. Still perusing websites to
find one? "LOL"



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U-Know-Who January 17th 07 02:53 AM

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:21:33 -0600, "U-Know-Who"
wrote:


"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
roups.com...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Uh-huh. You bet, Brian. It's not like your customers can't google your
incompetent ramblings in the archives. Kinda makes you wonder how many
potential customers you -lost- with your technical hocus-pocus, such
as your three square-foot ground plane fiasco. I'll bet -both- of your
customers laughed their asses off with that one..... I know I did!!!


BTW Brian, you never did give us your formula. Still perusing websites to
find one? "LOL"


why should he do anything at your bidding tom?


Whatever, nutjob.



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U-Know-Who January 17th 07 04:25 AM

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:53:01 -0600, "U-Know-Who"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:21:33 -0600, "U-Know-Who"
wrote:


"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
egroups.com...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Uh-huh. You bet, Brian. It's not like your customers can't google
your
incompetent ramblings in the archives. Kinda makes you wonder how
many
potential customers you -lost- with your technical hocus-pocus, such
as your three square-foot ground plane fiasco. I'll bet -both- of
your
customers laughed their asses off with that one..... I know I did!!!


BTW Brian, you never did give us your formula. Still perusing websites
to
find one? "LOL"

why should he do anything at your bidding tom?


Whatever, nutjob.


right as I knew you have NO answer


Don't you need to go create your own moderated NG so that no one can
disagree with you?



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Telstar Electronics January 17th 07 10:49 AM

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wrote:
no I don't mind people disagreeing with me Tom I do object to people
like that insist on talking anything but radio on radio NGs


Amen...

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