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CB noise in ford ranger
The truck has a 2.3L with no p/s or ac. I don't think it's coming from
the ignition due to no change in the noise during acceleration. When the ignition is turned to the on position you can here the electric fuel pump come on and quite. I am quite shure of the pump being my problem. My question is this. If I just replace the fuel pump would the new one be quiet you think? I'm guessing that the fuel pump is originally the one that came with the truck. |
CB noise in ford ranger
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CB noise in ford ranger
Try a .01mfd disc cap across the power leads at both ends of the Fuel pump
leads. If you got/get a copy of any ARRL handbook in your public library - look for the section on mobile radios. "Timothy Midkiff" wrote in message ... The truck has a 2.3L with no p/s or ac. I don't think it's coming from the ignition due to no change in the noise during acceleration. When the ignition is turned to the on position you can here the electric fuel pump come on and quite. I am quite shure of the pump being my problem. My question is this. If I just replace the fuel pump would the new one be quiet you think? I'm guessing that the fuel pump is originally the one that came with the truck. |
CB noise in ford ranger
Steveo wrote:
(Timothy Midkiff) wrote: The truck has a 2.3L with no p/s or ac. I don't think it's coming from the ignition due to no change in the noise during acceleration. When the ignition is turned to the on position you can here the electric fuel pump come on and quite. I am quite shure of the pump being my problem. My question is this. If I just replace the fuel pump would the new one be quiet you think? I'm guessing that the fuel pump is originally the one that came with the truck. IIRC Ford has had that problem almost forever since the advent of the electric in-tank fuel-pump. I'm kind of leaning towards bad ground. Run the CB's negative to something well-grounded like a bolt on the frame if possible. Did that with a 2001 Ford Ranger my roommate used to have and it got rid of the noise. Another possibility if the truck turns out to have poor grounding in general (such as my mid-90's Kia Sportage) is go with the best ground you can reasonably get to and use something like the Ranger RCI 2950 and run it with ANL/NB turned on and get good at reflexively adjusting the RF gain. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
CB noise in ford ranger
Yea, when I unplug the antenna the noise goes away completely. I have
only used one antenna on the truck since I bought it like 6 months ago. I put on a Wilson 500. I didn't have this type of noise in the cavalier that blowed up on me. I believe I will try a new fuel pump to see what that will do, I don't think I'll try the capacitor until last resort do to the fact I'm pretty good at screwing up. The cb was talking threw the car stereo at first. I bought a little noise filter for like a stereo that went on the power line and cleaned the grounding place real good. Lucky I guess that that problem seemed to go away. What do you think of the idea that perhaps cleaning the ground up real good for the fuel pump? All I almost forgot about the wipers. If I need the wipers I just turn off the cb the noise is so bad. Up in the red. Any experience dealing with a similar problem like this before? |
CB noise in ford ranger
On Feb 8, 6:14 pm, (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
Unplug the coax. If the noise goes away it's your antenna, but this problem is a bit notorious of Ford trucks. Sometimes replacing the pump works, sometimes it doesn't. There are various methods used to fix this problem and just as many opinions. Sometimes inline filters work. There have been aftermarket pumps installed meeting with some success. If you unplug the antenna... and the noise goes away... that doesn't mean it's the antenna that's causing your problem! www.telstar-electronics.com |
CB noise in ford ranger
From: (Telstar*Electronics)
On Feb 8, 6:14 pm, (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: Unplug the coax. If the noise goes away it's your antenna, but this problem is a bit notorious of Ford trucks. Sometimes replacing the pump works, sometimes it doesn't. There are various methods used to fix this problem and just as many opinions. Sometimes inline filters work. There have been aftermarket pumps installed meeting with some success. If you unplug the antenna... and the noise goes away... that doesn't mean it's the antenna that's causing your problem! www.telstar-electronics.com It damn sure means the source of noise is coming through the antenna or coax feedline and eliminates the fuel pump as the source of the noise. |
CB noise in ford ranger
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CB noise in ford ranger
Paul Johnson wrote:
Steveo wrote: (Timothy Midkiff) wrote: The truck has a 2.3L with no p/s or ac. I don't think it's coming from the ignition due to no change in the noise during acceleration. When the ignition is turned to the on position you can here the electric fuel pump come on and quite. I am quite shure of the pump being my problem. My question is this. If I just replace the fuel pump would the new one be quiet you think? I'm guessing that the fuel pump is originally the one that came with the truck. IIRC Ford has had that problem almost forever since the advent of the electric in-tank fuel-pump. I'm kind of leaning towards bad ground. Run the CB's negative to something well-grounded like a bolt on the frame if possible. Did that with a 2001 Ford Ranger my roommate used to have and it got rid of the noise. And connect the chassis to the frame to the battery... Those ground straps and their connections go bad! Another possibility if the truck turns out to have poor grounding in general (such as my mid-90's Kia Sportage) is go with the best ground you can reasonably get to and use something like the Ranger RCI 2950 and run it with ANL/NB turned on and get good at reflexively adjusting the RF gain. Any sideband radio has better filters then an AM only radio. |
CB noise in ford ranger
Hello All:
Yeah Scott is right here. In my Ford Truck I connected the Battery Ground to the fender, then ran a braid wire to the firewall, and then to the Hood. That made a big difference, in reducing RF Hash Noises from the Ignition System. Jay in the Mojave Scott in Baltimore wrote: And connect the chassis to the frame to the battery... Those ground straps and their connections go bad! Any sideband radio has better filters then an AM only radio. |
CB noise in ford ranger
On Feb 10, 7:06 am, Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello All: Yeah Scott is right here. In my Ford Truck I connected the Battery Ground to the fender, then ran a braid wire to the firewall, and then to the Hood. That made a big difference, in reducing RF Hash Noises from the Ignition System. Jay in the Mojave Scott in Baltimore wrote: And connect the chassis to the frame to the battery... Those ground straps and their connections go bad! Any sideband radio has better filters then an AM only radio.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Jay, Mr. Faraday would be proud of you. www.telstar-electronics.com |
CB noise in ford ranger
Hello TE:
I don't think Mr. Faraday had anything to do with it. Is that guy on channel 12, and goes by Fright Hauler? Has a Cobra 148 and Texas Star 500, and has duel whip antennas?!?!?! Well anyway grounding the fender, firewall, and hood was a significant improvement in reducing the ignition noise. I also ran new shielded wiring for the Ignition Modular, and that didn't help as much. Oh yeah I also added on copper tape (from the TRW Swap Meet) applied a 1/2 inch width of the copper tape every 3 to 4 inches on the center distributor wire, this was also a big help. I have a Motorola Radio in the Truck, and its has a really neat noise canceling circuit in it. And another noise reduction idea, would be a Clear Speech External Speaker with DSP Noise Reduction. Yeahs its 200 dollars, but if ya want to play ya gotto pay. I know guys fight the noise coming from a noise fuel pump in the plastic gas tank. I would wrap the plastic tank with wire, and add in a power lead filter. Jay in the Great Mojave Desert, ....just down the road ah ways from the fillin station. Telstar Electronics wrote: On Feb 10, 7:06 am, Jay in the Mojave wrote: Hello All: Yeah Scott is right here. In my Ford Truck I connected the Battery Ground to the fender, then ran a braid wire to the firewall, and then to the Hood. That made a big difference, in reducing RF Hash Noises from the Ignition System. Jay in the Mojave Scott in Baltimore wrote: And connect the chassis to the frame to the battery... Those ground straps and their connections go bad! Any sideband radio has better filters then an AM only radio.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Jay, Mr. Faraday would be proud of you. www.telstar-electronics.com |
CB noise in ford ranger
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CB noise in ford ranger
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:00:31 -0800, Jay in the Mojave
wrote in : Hello TE: I don't think Mr. Faraday had anything to do with it. Is that guy on channel 12, and goes by Fright Hauler? Has a Cobra 148 and Texas Star 500, and has duel whip antennas?!?!?! Well anyway grounding the fender, firewall, and hood was a significant improvement in reducing the ignition noise. I also ran new shielded wiring for the Ignition Modular, and that didn't help as much. Oh yeah I also added on copper tape (from the TRW Swap Meet) applied a 1/2 inch width of the copper tape every 3 to 4 inches on the center distributor wire, this was also a big help. I have a Motorola Radio in the Truck, and its has a really neat noise canceling circuit in it. And another noise reduction idea, would be a Clear Speech External Speaker with DSP Noise Reduction. Yeahs its 200 dollars, but if ya want to play ya gotto pay. I know guys fight the noise coming from a noise fuel pump in the plastic gas tank. I would wrap the plastic tank with wire, and add in a power lead filter. Just get a different truck. Then you won't have to deal with the bass-ackwards electrical system, the characteristic cancer above the fender wells, rebuilding the CV joints on the dual I-beams (a major PITA), or that annoying and mysterious 'clunk' that sometimes appears after 100k or so. |
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JMO now, but sounds like u have a bad ground on your system... This will cause all sorts of AC noise in the electrical sys.. Try grounding your ant bracket, especially if its mounted on the chrome tool boxes.. It not the alluiminum thats the problem its the chrome plating.. You have to run a ground , Directly from the bracket to Ground on bed etc... Hope this was helpful... Good Dx'n GooRu |
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CB noise in ford ranger
Yea, Thank you for the article on the noise problems. As well as the
opinions. I know from having both a S-10 a long time ago and owning a Ranger now that the Ford is way worse on noise. The needle was running on the quiet side of no less than a 5 ever. Now I have it down to 2 threw 2.5 when it's all quiet. Soon as this weather decides what its going to do here in WV I'm going to try to get things done to quiet it down further. I appreciate it. TY |
GR5000 Antennas
Enforcer Base by MR Coily is the best antenna its pricey at about $450
http://www.angelfire.com/psy/mrcoily/id10.htm |
GR5000 Antennas
"DJboutit" wrote:
Enforcer Base by MR Coily is the best antenna its pricey at about $450 http://www.angelfire.com/psy/mrcoily/id10.htm That looks like a competition mobile antenna. As Scott said, here's the best 10/11M omni base antenna on the market today. Interceptor 10K http://www.a1antennas.com/ -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
GR5000 Antennas
DJboutit wrote:
Enforcer Base by MR Coily is the best antenna its pricey at about $450 Overpriced. A fool and his money are soon parted. There is no way I want a coil at the base of my antenna. Coils choke the current. Coils should be at the top of an antenna. Jay's antenna has no power wasting coils in the base. On the contrary, Jay's antenna transfers more power to the antenna then with lossy matching methods, like a coil at the base of an antenna. My mobile CB antenna is a Firestik KW-7. The coil is at the top. I can talk anywhere I hear with two MRF455's. I do 120 watt peaks. I get out just as far as I did with the 667, use less current and don't wipe out people I can't hear with a 2 pill biased box. |
CB noise in ford ranger
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote: Steveo wrote: (Timothy Midkiff) wrote: The truck has a 2.3L with no p/s or ac. I don't think it's coming from the ignition due to no change in the noise during acceleration. When the ignition is turned to the on position you can here the electric fuel pump come on and quite. I am quite shure of the pump being my problem. My question is this. If I just replace the fuel pump would the new one be quiet you think? I'm guessing that the fuel pump is originally the one that came with the truck. IIRC Ford has had that problem almost forever since the advent of the electric in-tank fuel-pump. I'm kind of leaning towards bad ground. Run the CB's negative to something well-grounded like a bolt on the frame if possible. Did that with a 2001 Ford Ranger my roommate used to have and it got rid of the noise. And connect the chassis to the frame to the battery... Those ground straps and their connections go bad! I'm not convinced either vehicle mentioned (mine or my former roommate's) ever had a good ground to start with. Another possibility if the truck turns out to have poor grounding in general (such as my mid-90's Kia Sportage) is go with the best ground you can reasonably get to and use something like the Ranger RCI 2950 and run it with ANL/NB turned on and get good at reflexively adjusting the RF gain. Any sideband radio has better filters then an AM only radio. I question that assertion. I had been running a detachable-face Midland job that had sideband and that thing was noisy as all get-go on that. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
CB noise in ford ranger
Try a .01mfd disc cap across the power leads at both ends of the Fuel pump
leads. If you got/get a copy of any ARRL handbook in your public library - look for the section on mobile radios. Unfortunately, the cap will do little without something to work against. A choke would be a nice addition to this filter. http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...evelopment.htm |
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