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February 23 2007
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February 23 2007
Steveo wrote:
A day that will live in infamy. aka- apartment dwellers unleashed. adu eh? |
February 23 2007
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote: A day that will live in infamy. aka- apartment dwellers unleashed. adu eh? Never mind me. :) -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
February 23 2007
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote: Steveo wrote: A day that will live in infamy. aka- apartment dwellers unleashed. adu eh? Never mind me. :) never do ;) |
February 23 2007
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote: Never mind me. :) never do ;) Cool. So did you do anything productive today? I put sheet metal, pop rivets, and bondo on an old truck most of the day. It was all I could do to get the barn up to 60 degrees, cold week. -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
February 23 2007
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote: Steveo wrote: Never mind me. :) never do ;) Cool. So did you do anything productive today? I put sheet metal, pop rivets, and bondo on an old truck most of the day. It was all I could do to get the barn up to 60 degrees, cold week. reprogrammed some -54 vdc controller kit. put up a new 10 gig (OC-192) circuit and tested another over to england. yeah its cold especially the wind be a blowin'. nothing like jim upstate though. |
February 23 2007
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote: jim wrote: Steveo wrote: Never mind me. :) never do ;) Cool. So did you do anything productive today? I put sheet metal, pop rivets, and bondo on an old truck most of the day. It was all I could do to get the barn up to 60 degrees, cold week. reprogrammed some -54 vdc controller kit. put up a new 10 gig (OC-192) circuit and tested another over to england. Sounds productive. yeah its cold especially the wind be a blowin'. nothing like jim upstate though. Yeah and four feet of snow with two more feet predicted for the weekend!? sheesh -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
February 23 2007
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote: Steveo wrote: jim wrote: Steveo wrote: Never mind me. :) never do ;) Cool. So did you do anything productive today? I put sheet metal, pop rivets, and bondo on an old truck most of the day. It was all I could do to get the barn up to 60 degrees, cold week. reprogrammed some -54 vdc controller kit. put up a new 10 gig (OC-192) circuit and tested another over to england. Sounds productive. yeah its cold especially the wind be a blowin'. nothing like jim upstate though. Yeah and four feet of snow with two more feet predicted for the weekend!? sheesh we have not had any measurable snow this winter. up island and out east yeah. thats ok as my snow plowing budget remains intact at the job. |
February 23 2007
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote: jim wrote: Steveo wrote: jim wrote: Steveo wrote: Never mind me. :) never do ;) Cool. So did you do anything productive today? I put sheet metal, pop rivets, and bondo on an old truck most of the day. It was all I could do to get the barn up to 60 degrees, cold week. reprogrammed some -54 vdc controller kit. put up a new 10 gig (OC-192) circuit and tested another over to england. Sounds productive. yeah its cold especially the wind be a blowin'. nothing like jim upstate though. Yeah and four feet of snow with two more feet predicted for the weekend!? sheesh we have not had any measurable snow this winter. up island and out east yeah. thats ok as my snow plowing budget remains intact at the job. I've only plowed my drive 4 or 5 times so far which is light for our winters. It was 50 degrees new years eve. -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
February 23 2007
Hello Steveo:
Yep it sure is. Having coffee with the local old fart CW hams, it really erks a few of em! Thank you FCC. Jay in the Mojave Ham and CB Transceiver $1500.oo, plus shipping $53.oo. Used Tower, Tower Base Mount, Welder and materials, cement, Rotor, Antenna, Guy wires, new tower cable, LMR 400 Coax, $2177.oo Accessories: Watt meter, slugs, External Mic, 220 Volt plug installation, Big Linear, 1.8 Kz SSB narrow filter for older stby rig, $3990.oo Study materials for ham lic, 29.95, plus tank of gas going into Los Angles, and lunch at Burger and Brew $69.99 Entertainment from old Farts complaining and winning....pricless. I hear that a lot of the no code techs will be around 28.385 Mc, on the 23 rd Steveo wrote: A day that will live in infamy. aka- apartment dwellers unleashed. adu |
February 23 2007
Yep it sure is. Having coffee with the local old fart CW hams, it really
erks a few of em! Thank you FCC. I passed the below info around on a few ham sites and one guy wrote back, "Whoppy ****ing doo". I laughed my ass off! I hear that a lot of the no code techs will be around 28.385 Mc, on the 23 rd There was lots of skip on CB a few days ago. When these spots come back around in two weeks, 10 meters should be hopping on the weekend of the 23rd. Heck, Thursday I made a contact to Nebraska on 38 lower. One contest club is making it the whole weekend instead of one day. My 2950 is ready to go. How much do I need to trim off a Wilson 1000 to make it resonant at 28.5 MHz? I can't test it before the 23rd and I need it that day. |
February 23 2007
I hear that a lot of the no code techs will be around 28.385 Mc, on the 23 rd
The word on this side is to meet on 28.365 USB. Won't the 10-10 people on 28.370 just love it? :) |
February 23 2007
Hello Scott:
I am not saying to interfere with other stations. But I just had to make fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that our goverment has handed down. Gee whiz yeah the Ten Ten Club, they are a Ten Meter Ham Club. http://www.ten-ten.org/ Hope they will be a help here. What type traffic do they have there on 28.370 Mc USB???? Maybe a net? I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? Jay in the Mojave Scott in Baltimore wrote: I hear that a lot of the no code techs will be around 28.385 Mc, on the 23 rd The word on this side is to meet on 28.365 USB. Won't the 10-10 people on 28.370 just love it? :) |
February 23 2007
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:18:02 -0800, Jay in the Mojave
wrote: +++Hello Steveo: +++ +++Yep it sure is. Having coffee with the local old fart CW hams, it really +++erks a few of em! Thank you FCC. +++ +++Jay in the Mojave *********** better than listening to four old farts on a staurday morning on 2 meters discussing their recent heart attacks. james |
February 23 2007
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:02:36 -0500, Scott in Baltimore
wrote: +++There was lots of skip on CB a few days ago. When these spots come back +++around in two weeks, 10 meters should be hopping on the weekend of the 23rd. +++Heck, Thursday I made a contact to Nebraska on 38 lower. ************ The equatorial rotation period of the Sun is about 25 days. It slows down as you go higher in latidtude of the Sun. The Polar regions of the Sun rotate in about 35 days. Therefore depending on the latitude of the spots the trek around the backside may take between 12 and 17 days. james |
February 23 2007
On Feb 9, 6:30 pm, jim wrote:
Steveo wrote: A day that will live in infamy. aka- apartment dwellers unleashed. adu eh? The original (ham) poster was referring to "apartment dweller in " the same way a lot of other people refer to trailer dwellers as "trailer trash" |
February 23 2007
On Feb 10, 10:21 am, james wrote:
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:18:02 -0800, Jay in the Mojave wrote: +++Hello Steveo: +++ +++Yep it sure is. Having coffee with the local old fart CW hams, it really +++erks a few of em! Thank you FCC. +++ +++Jay in the Mojave *********** better than listening to four old farts on a staurday morning on 2 meters discussing their recent heart attacks. james Were those heart attacks caused when they found out that CW was no longer required to get your ham liscence? |
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.. But I just had to make fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for cb'ers to use on 10 meters. Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests without having to take a code test. And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are perfectly legal for hams to use..... |
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On Feb 28, 11:12 pm, wrote:
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------" wrote: : . But I just had to make fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for cb'ers to use on 10 meters. and NoCode hams I heard that no code hams are allowed to use the 28 mhz frequencies now, Although I don't know how accurate that information is or isn't. Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests without having to take a code test. And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. can be modified yes so? But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are perfectly legal for hams to use..... did you have a point? http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/ -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
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On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote: +++: +++. But I just had to make +++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that +++ +++ +++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah +++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? +++ +++ +++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly +++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for +++cb'ers to use on 10 meters. +++ +++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became +++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests +++without having to take a code test. +++ +++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. +++ +++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in +++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. +++ +++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are +++perfectly legal for hams to use..... +++ +++ +++ ***************** By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum. Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB market. james |
This will really annoy the hams
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote: : . But I just had to make fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for cb'ers to use on 10 meters. Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests without having to take a code test. And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are perfectly legal for hams to use..... Galaxies are horrible on sideband. If I were them, I would stick to AM, and get something else for sideband. Vinnie S. |
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Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify 11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies, Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for 11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal. "james" wrote in message ... On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------" wrote: +++: +++. But I just had to make +++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that +++ +++ +++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah +++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? +++ +++ +++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly +++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for +++cb'ers to use on 10 meters. +++ +++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became +++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests +++without having to take a code test. +++ +++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. +++ +++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in +++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. +++ +++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are +++perfectly legal for hams to use..... +++ +++ +++ ***************** By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum. Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB market. james |
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"I heard that no code hams are allowed to use the 28 mhz frequencies
now" Since there is no longer a code test for ANY Amateur Radio license, 'No-code hams' can use all of the frequencies their ticket allows them to. A basic Technician class license will now allow operations between 28.300-28.500 USB with up to 200 watts output. "------------" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 28, 11:12 pm, wrote: On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------" wrote: : . But I just had to make fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for cb'ers to use on 10 meters. and NoCode hams I heard that no code hams are allowed to use the 28 mhz frequencies now, Although I don't know how accurate that information is or isn't. Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests without having to take a code test. And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. can be modified yes so? But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are perfectly legal for hams to use..... did you have a point? http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/ -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
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A.E. 352 wrote:
Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC... a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify 11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies, Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for 11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal. "james" wrote in message ... On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------" wrote: +++: +++. But I just had to make +++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that +++ +++ +++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah +++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? +++ +++ +++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly +++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for +++cb'ers to use on 10 meters. +++ +++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became +++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests +++without having to take a code test. +++ +++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. +++ +++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in +++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. +++ +++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are +++perfectly legal for hams to use..... +++ +++ +++ ***************** By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum. Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB market. james If you are making a transmitter or power amplifier for personal use then, no, the FCC does not have to approve it. It however must meet certain FCC mandated specifications. If it doesn't then it is "ILLEGAL" and it's use can subject the operator to sanctions. If you making a transmitter or amplifier for sale then it "MUST" be approved by the FCC as meeting the afore said specifications. The various so called 10 meter ham transceivers under discussion here do not meet these specifications and are "TOTALLY" illegal for use by anyone in the jurisdiction of the FCC. 11 meter transceivers may be converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver has been approved (?) for use by the FCC. Also hams may now purchase power amplifiers that have 10 meter capability manufactured into it by the manufacturer. This has been the case for a couple of years now. David WD9BDZ |
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"11 meter transceivers may be
converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver has been approved (?) for use by the FCC." Not true. The 11-meter transceiver has been approved for 11-meter use ONLY, and the approval has NOTHING to do with folks being able to convert it to 10-meters. Hams don't need approval to use it on 10-meters. Also, manufactured ham gear needs to meet certain specs, but it does NOT require FCC Type Acceptance/Approval. Nowhere on my Icom does it say 'Type Accepted." "David G. Nagel" wrote in message ... A.E. 352 wrote: Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC... a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify 11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies, Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for 11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal. "james" wrote in message ... On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------" wrote: +++: +++. But I just had to make +++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that +++ +++ +++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah +++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? +++ +++ +++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly +++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for +++cb'ers to use on 10 meters. +++ +++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became +++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests +++without having to take a code test. +++ +++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. +++ +++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in +++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. +++ +++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are +++perfectly legal for hams to use..... +++ +++ +++ ***************** By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum. Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB market. james If you are making a transmitter or power amplifier for personal use then, no, the FCC does not have to approve it. It however must meet certain FCC mandated specifications. If it doesn't then it is "ILLEGAL" and it's use can subject the operator to sanctions. If you making a transmitter or amplifier for sale then it "MUST" be approved by the FCC as meeting the afore said specifications. The various so called 10 meter ham transceivers under discussion here do not meet these specifications and are "TOTALLY" illegal for use by anyone in the jurisdiction of the FCC. 11 meter transceivers may be converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver has been approved (?) for use by the FCC. Also hams may now purchase power amplifiers that have 10 meter capability manufactured into it by the manufacturer. This has been the case for a couple of years now. David WD9BDZ |
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A.E. 352 wrote:
Since there is no longer a code test for ANY Amateur Radio license, 'No-code hams' can use all of the frequencies their ticket allows them to. Well, they still have to stay off the CW frequencies if they're not actually running CW. The frequency plan is in effect still. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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A.E. 352 wrote:
"11 meter transceivers may be converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver has been approved (?) for use by the FCC." Not true. The 11-meter transceiver has been approved for 11-meter use ONLY, and the approval has NOTHING to do with folks being able to convert it to 10-meters. Hams don't need approval to use it on 10-meters. Also, manufactured ham gear needs to meet certain specs, but it does NOT require FCC Type Acceptance/Approval. Nowhere on my Icom does it say 'Type Accepted." That must be why the manufacturers post a notice at the Dayton Hamvention that the new improved box they are displaying can not be sold until they receive FCC approval. "David G. Nagel" wrote in message ... A.E. 352 wrote: Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC... a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify 11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies, Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for 11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal. "james" wrote in message ... On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------" wrote: +++: +++. But I just had to make +++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that +++ +++ +++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah +++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe? +++ +++ +++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly +++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for +++cb'ers to use on 10 meters. +++ +++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became +++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests +++without having to take a code test. +++ +++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios. +++ +++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in +++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed. +++ +++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are +++perfectly legal for hams to use..... +++ +++ +++ ***************** By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum. Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB market. james If you are making a transmitter or power amplifier for personal use then, no, the FCC does not have to approve it. It however must meet certain FCC mandated specifications. If it doesn't then it is "ILLEGAL" and it's use can subject the operator to sanctions. If you making a transmitter or amplifier for sale then it "MUST" be approved by the FCC as meeting the afore said specifications. The various so called 10 meter ham transceivers under discussion here do not meet these specifications and are "TOTALLY" illegal for use by anyone in the jurisdiction of the FCC. 11 meter transceivers may be converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver has been approved (?) for use by the FCC. Also hams may now purchase power amplifiers that have 10 meter capability manufactured into it by the manufacturer. This has been the case for a couple of years now. David WD9BDZ |
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The frequency plan (Band Plan) is actualy a Gentlemans' Agreement and is NOT
santioned by the FCC. Technically, a person can use phone in the CW portion of ANY band, but they generally don't per the 'agreement.' "Paul Johnson" wrote in message ... A.E. 352 wrote: Since there is no longer a code test for ANY Amateur Radio license, 'No-code hams' can use all of the frequencies their ticket allows them to. Well, they still have to stay off the CW frequencies if they're not actually running CW. The frequency plan is in effect still. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:03:40 -0500, "A.E. 352"
wrote: +++Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC... +++a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify +++11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC +++has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies, +++Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for +++11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS +++required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal. +++ ************ FCC Certification is required for all commercial manufactured transmitters in the US. The exception is for amatures who make five or less in a calendar year. Any radio that is commercially manufactured for the CB band is not certified for the amamture bands. And vice versa. The FCC will not certify it for both. Also any transmitter in which more than five are manufactured within a calendar year must have FCC certification in order for it to be legally sold in the US. RAdios like the Galaxies and other so called "export" radios are not certified in the US and are not legal to sell. Therefore they are not FCC Certified radios even for amature use. james |
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:12:49 -0500, "A.E. 352"
wrote: +++"11 meter transceivers may be +++converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver +++has been approved (?) for use by the FCC." +++ +++Not true. The 11-meter transceiver has been approved for 11-meter use ONLY, +++and the approval has NOTHING to do with folks being able to convert it to +++10-meters. Hams don't need approval to use it on 10-meters. Also, +++manufactured ham gear needs to meet certain specs, but it does NOT require +++FCC Type Acceptance/Approval. Nowhere on my Icom does it say 'Type +++Accepted." ************ Correct an 11 M transciever is Certified for 11 M use. Under the provisions of Part 95, an amature can modify one for his own use and not have to certify the radio. Still he must ensure that the transmitter meets the emmisions requirements for amature transmitters for the band that the unit is beign converted to. I once thought of converting a HR2600 to 6 M when I found out that with a cut here and pullup there and the display read 50.0000. A tween on the VCO and it tuned and locked from 50 to 54 MHz. I abandoned it when I discovered that on FM the transmit offset was still 100KHz. That would have been legal for me to persue with an amature license. james james |
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A.E. 352 wrote:
"11 meter transceivers may be converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver has been approved (?) for use by the FCC." Not true. The 11-meter transceiver has been approved for 11-meter use ONLY, and the approval has NOTHING to do with folks being able to convert it to 10-meters. Hams don't need approval to use it on 10-meters. Also, manufactured ham gear needs to meet certain specs, but it does NOT require FCC Type Acceptance/Approval. Nowhere on my Icom does it say 'Type Accepted." It may say "complies with part 15 limits"! If a 2950 is illegal for use on 10 meters, that all the converted Motracs are illegal for use on 10, 6, 2 and 70 centimeters? All the repeaters made with Motorola or other brand business band/public service type radios are illegal then! Where do you draw the line? An amateur is responsible for their transmissions. If an amateur does not do anything wrong with the radio, it is perfectly legal to use, no matter what the radio is. |
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Please avoid backwards-order quoting.
http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices A.E. 352 wrote: "Paul Johnson" wrote in message ... A.E. 352 wrote: Since there is no longer a code test for ANY Amateur Radio license, 'No-code hams' can use all of the frequencies their ticket allows them to. Well, they still have to stay off the CW frequencies if they're not actually running CW. The frequency plan is in effect still. The frequency plan (Band Plan) is actualy a Gentlemans' Agreement and is NOT santioned by the FCC. Technically, a person can use phone in the CW portion of ANY band, but they generally don't per the 'agreement.' On the Citizen's Band that is true. Outside the 40 channels, that is not true: Frequencies and modes are restricted depending on your license. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
This will really annoy the hams
Lets all take a BIG breath and relax/chill.
If you want to take a Motorola/GE or whatever radio from it's current lo-band use and convert it to 6-meters, you are GOOD TO GO. You do NOT need FCC Certification to modify it and put it on the air in the 6-meter ham band. After modification, it will no longer be Type Accepted/FCC Approved for the service that it was originally designed for and therefore CANNOT legally be placed back into original service. Am I getting through to anyone? Frank, help me out here. Amateur Radio operators have for many years been able to build/modify/transmit from gear that they have either bought, built, or modified to work on the ham bands with no FCC 'sticker' required. The 11-meter "Type Accepted" is just that... the radio is "Type Accepted" for use on 11-meters ONLY and any change/modification to the radio will null and void it's 'Type Acceptance' for that particular band. Hams, can however, modify that same 11-meter radio to become a beacon or 10-meter radio if they so desire WITHOUT any type of FCC Type Acceptance and/or Certification for its new use. wrote in message ... On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:15:50 -0500, "A.E. 352" wrote: The frequency plan (Band Plan) is actualy a Gentlemans' Agreement and is NOT santioned by the FCC. Technically, a person can use phone in the CW portion of ANY band, but they generally don't per the 'agreement.' not on HF there are large segement on most bands where you can't legaly use voice although 160 is all gentlemans agreement "Paul Johnson" wrote in message ... A.E. 352 wrote: Since there is no longer a code test for ANY Amateur Radio license, 'No-code hams' can use all of the frequencies their ticket allows them to. Well, they still have to stay off the CW frequencies if they're not actually running CW. The frequency plan is in effect still. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/ -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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