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Telstar Electronics August 15th 07 12:16 AM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
I miss his brilliant insight out here...lol
http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...evelopment.htm


Yo Mamma August 15th 07 04:24 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ups.com...
I miss his brilliant insight out here...lol
http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...evelopment.htm


He tired of making an ass of you.


Telstar Electronics August 15th 07 11:17 AM

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:24:16 -0500, "Yo Mamma"
He tired of making an ass of you.


On Aug 15, 1:54 am, Freddy the Destroyer
wrote:
Well... And of himself... LOL


Nah... Frank knows everything... you should know that by know.
If you don't believe it... just ask him... lol
http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...evelopment.htm


Vinnie S. August 16th 07 11:28 PM

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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:17:18 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:24:16 -0500, "Yo Mamma"
He tired of making an ass of you.


On Aug 15, 1:54 am, Freddy the Destroyer
wrote:
Well... And of himself... LOL


Nah... Frank knows everything... you should know that by know.
If you don't believe it... just ask him... lol
http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...evelopment.htm



Which Frank?

Vinnie S.

Frank Gilliland August 19th 07 10:31 AM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:24:16 -0500, "Yo Mamma"
wrote in
:


"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
oups.com...
I miss his brilliant insight out here...lol
http://www.telstar-electronics.com/d...evelopment.htm


He tired of making an ass of you.



Not really. Brian will always be a failure because he's just too lazy.
Even if he hits on a product that sells big he'll -still- fail because
he's too lazy to deal with success. The rest of the newsgroup is flame
war overflow from rrap. Nothing worth reading. And with the election
campaigns heating up, the newsgroups will soon be flooded with pundits
trying to seed their propoganda, which is pointless since the outcome
has already been decided -- the politicians will win, the people will
lose. The only question is how bad we will lose. So I've been hanging
out in a more appropriate newsgroup, waiting to see if my soon-to-be
Master's degree is going to be worth anything in the future. Anything
else seems frivolous at the moment.



Telstar Electronics August 19th 07 02:45 PM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
On Aug 19, 4:31 am, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
Not really. Brian will always be a failure because he's just too lazy.
Even if he hits on a product that sells big he'll -still- fail because
he's too lazy to deal with success.


I knew you'd show up sooner or later. Since the VoiceMax is selling
well on Ebay... I'll move to the second part of your post.
"Too lazy to deal with success"... LOL. Frank, thanks for those words
of wisdom.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtel...QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0


Frank Gilliland August 20th 07 03:20 PM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:45:09 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote in
. com:

On Aug 19, 4:31 am, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
Not really. Brian will always be a failure because he's just too lazy.
Even if he hits on a product that sells big he'll -still- fail because
he's too lazy to deal with success.


I knew you'd show up sooner or later. Since the VoiceMax is selling
well on Ebay...



That's what you said about your first POS amp, your second POS amp,
your third POS amp.....


I'll move to the second part of your post.
"Too lazy to deal with success"... LOL. Frank, thanks for those words
of wisdom.



You are quite welcome. You have been a dismal failure in the past and
haven't changed your methods at all, despite some really good advice
from myself and a lot of others in the group. It doesn't take a rocket
surgeon with a crystal ball to see that you will continue to be a
failure in the future. Even if fate were to hand you the key to
success on a silver platter, you're simply too lazy to do anything
with it. What a waste.



james August 20th 07 08:10 PM

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:45:09 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

|On Aug 19, 4:31 am, Frank Gilliland
|wrote:
| Not really. Brian will always be a failure because he's just too lazy.
| Even if he hits on a product that sells big he'll -still- fail because
| he's too lazy to deal with success.
|
|I knew you'd show up sooner or later. Since the VoiceMax is selling
|well on Ebay... I'll move to the second part of your post.
|"Too lazy to deal with success"... LOL. Frank, thanks for those words
|of wisdom.
|http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtel...QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0
|
|----------------

Yep all five of them.

james

Telstar Electronics August 21st 07 12:20 AM

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On Aug 20, 2:10 pm, james wrote:
Yep all five of them.


Glad to see that all your education allows you to count to five... LOL
I hope you can count a lot higher than that within several months.
www.telstar-electronics.com


Telstar Electronics August 21st 07 01:11 AM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
On Aug 20, 9:20 am, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
You are quite welcome. You have been a dismal failure in the past and
haven't changed your methods at all, despite some really good advice
from myself and a lot of others in the group. It doesn't take a rocket
surgeon with a crystal ball to see that you will continue to be a
failure in the future. Even if fate were to hand you the key to
success on a silver platter, you're simply too lazy to do anything
with it. What a waste.


Rocket surgeon???... It's rocket scientist Frank.
We can sure tell you're not either... lol



Key Klown August 21st 07 08:01 PM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
he got electrocuted installing a back of set cb antenna


james August 21st 07 08:01 PM

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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:20:31 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

|On Aug 20, 2:10 pm, james wrote:
| Yep all five of them.
|
|Glad to see that all your education allows you to count to five... LOL
|I hope you can count a lot higher than that within several months.
|www.telstar-electronics.com
|
|-------------


can count far beyond that. Anyway it really does not matter to me how
many you sell. I just don't find selling five in four weeks "flying
off the shelves" type sales.

james

Telstar Electronics August 22nd 07 12:05 AM

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On Aug 21, 2:01 pm, james wrote:
can count far beyond that. Anyway it really does not matter to me how
many you sell. I just don't find selling five in four weeks "flying
off the shelves" type sales.


You're right... but new products always take some time to gain
traction.
www.telstar-electronics.com



Peter August 25th 07 09:56 PM

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"james" wrote...

can count far beyond that. Anyway it really does not matter to
me how many you sell. I just don't find selling five in four
weeks "flying off the shelves" type sales.


Not if you have spent months spamming in advance... and it's
your only product.

Not long before he can buy a Porsche, huh?


Regards,
Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/




Telstar Electronics August 27th 07 11:00 AM

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On Aug 25, 3:56 pm, " Peter" wrote:
Not if you have spent months spamming in advance... and it's
your only product.
Not long before he can buy a Porsche, huh?


Thanks again... great post. You certainly add a lot to this group.
Regards,
www.telstar-electronics.com


james August 29th 07 02:27 AM

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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:56:53 +0100, " Peter"
wrote:

|"james" wrote...
|
| can count far beyond that. Anyway it really does not matter to
| me how many you sell. I just don't find selling five in four
| weeks "flying off the shelves" type sales.
|
|Not if you have spent months spamming in advance... and it's
|your only product.
|
|Not long before he can buy a Porsche, huh?
|
|
|Regards,
|Peter.
| http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/
|
|--------------------

At the current rate he might be able to afford a 1/50th scale model of
a Porsche by Christmas!


james

Telstar Electronics August 30th 07 01:09 AM

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On Aug 25, 3:56 pm, " Peter" wrote:
"james" wrote...

can count far beyond that. Anyway it really does not matter to
me how many you sell. I just don't find selling five in four
weeks "flying off the shelves" type sales.


Not if you have spent months spamming in advance... and it's
your only product.

Not long before he can buy a Porsche, huh?

Regards,
Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/


Peter... I was just out at your site. I suggest you update your page
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/...ics/solder.php to comply
with RoHS. After all you are part of the European directive. You
better get with the program...
www.telstar-electronics.com


Peter August 30th 07 05:37 AM

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"james" wrote...

At the current rate he might be able to afford
a 1/50th scale model of a Porsche by Christmas!


Earth shattering news... 5 whole units sent to the UK.
However, from a previous post, it would appear that
these are just to test them.

Some UK shops can now find out how this wonder
product can "double the power" of FM CB radios.

I'll bet you didn't know that you can double the power
of an FM transmitter with a speech processor, huh?


Regards,
Peter.




Telstar Electronics August 30th 07 12:27 PM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
On Aug 29, 11:37 pm, " Peter" wrote:
Some UK shops can now find out how this wonder
product can "double the power" of FM CB radios.
I'll bet you didn't know that you can double the power
of an FM transmitter with a speech processor, huh?


Stop talking nonsense... we both know that the doubling of power
refers only to AM(DSB) signals. However, don't discount the fact that
VoiceMax can increase the usable range of an FM transmitter as well...
by holding the deviation at the maximum allowable level.
Cheers,
www.telstar-electronics.com


james September 1st 07 12:37 AM

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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:27:17 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

|On Aug 29, 11:37 pm, " Peter" wrote:
| Some UK shops can now find out how this wonder
| product can "double the power" of FM CB radios.
| I'll bet you didn't know that you can double the power
| of an FM transmitter with a speech processor, huh?
|
|Stop talking nonsense... we both know that the doubling of power
|refers only to AM(DSB) signals. However, don't discount the fact that
|VoiceMax can increase the usable range of an FM transmitter as well...
|by holding the deviation at the maximum allowable level.
|Cheers,
|www.telstar-electronics.com
|
|------------

And if your were indeed an engineer you would know that a speech
compressor can't double the power of a Double Sideband Amplitude
Modulated signal with full carrier.

Carrier always remains constant in DSB-AM large carrier signals.
Modulation only increases the power in the sidbands. Once you hit 100%
modulation on the peaks you will have the maximum power in the
sidebands. After that all modulating power above that is in the
harmonics of the sidebands. Therefore increasing transmitted
bandwidth.

You should have learned that in Analysis of Linear Systems along with
studying the Fourier Transform either in Linear Systems or
Differential Equations class or both clases.

james

Telstar Electronics September 1st 07 01:26 AM

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On Aug 31, 6:37 pm, james wrote:
And if your were indeed an engineer you would know that a speech
compressor can't double the power of a Double Sideband Amplitude
Modulated signal with full carrier.


Absolute nonsense...
www.telstar-electronics.com


Telstar Electronics September 1st 07 01:43 AM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
On Aug 31, 6:37 pm, james wrote:
And if your were indeed an engineer you would know that a speech
compressor can't double the power of a Double Sideband Amplitude
Modulated signal with full carrier.


Actually... you're right... VoiceMax doesn't double the power... it
increases the PEP power four times the carrier power on a constant
basis!
www.telstar-electronics.com


james September 1st 07 03:07 AM

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:43:27 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

|On Aug 31, 6:37 pm, james wrote:
| And if your were indeed an engineer you would know that a speech
| compressor can't double the power of a Double Sideband Amplitude
| Modulated signal with full carrier.
|
|Actually... you're right... VoiceMax doesn't double the power... it
|increases the PEP power four times the carrier power on a constant
|basis!
|www.telstar-electronics.com
|----------

absolute rubbish.

james

james September 1st 07 03:09 AM

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:43:27 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

|On Aug 31, 6:37 pm, james wrote:
| And if your were indeed an engineer you would know that a speech
| compressor can't double the power of a Double Sideband Amplitude
| Modulated signal with full carrier.
|
|Actually... you're right... VoiceMax doesn't double the power... it
|increases the PEP power four times the carrier power on a constant
|basis!
|www.telstar-electronics.com
|----------

The PEP of a DSB-AM Large carrier is 4 times the carrier power.

james

Telstar Electronics September 1st 07 01:36 PM

Is there an echo in here?
 
Telstar Electronics
Actually... you're right... VoiceMax doesn't double the power... it
increases the PEP power four times the carrier power on a constant
basis!


james wrote:
The PEP of a DSB-AM Large carrier is 4 times the carrier power.


Exactly... now where did I hear that... lol
That's what VoiceMax can accomplish!
www.telstar-electronics.com




Peter September 2nd 07 05:25 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote...
On Aug 29, 11:37 pm, " Peter" wrote:
Some UK shops can now find out how this wonder
product can "double the power" of FM CB radios.
I'll bet you didn't know that you can double the power
of an FM transmitter with a speech processor, huh?


Stop talking nonsense... we both know that the doubling
of power refers only to AM(DSB) signals.


The claims are not aimed at you and I, they are aimed
at CB enthusiasts without technical knowledge or
experience to know the truth.

By making "double your power" claims of "any CB", without
clearly stating that it will not apply to FM CB, you are
misleading the British consumer.
The only possible reason you could have for making those
claims within the UK, or not telling UK consumers that it
does not apply to their CB, is to purposely mislead in an
attempt to boost sales on a false promise.


Naturally, I would hope that I could convince either you
or the shops to drop the false claims within the UK, making
it clear that there is no power gain for FM.
But if not, do the words "Trading Standards" or "Ofcom"
mean anything to you?


However, don't discount the fact that VoiceMax can
increase the usable range of an FM transmitter as well...


And we cannot discount the fact that FM CB is not the
same as broadcast radio. The 10KHz spacing was never
intended for high quality sound, and will not allow it
without splatter.

UK FM CBs are designed, made and tested to do the best
within the available bandwidth. This includes receiver
specifications.
You cannot polish a turd. FM with just 10KHz spacing
is very much a turd.

Like I keep telling you, we have had FM CB for 25 years. We
have had the amps and processors... and the splatter that
goes with them.
I have also worked on many UK CB radios over the years,
and have never needed a speech processor to get better
modulation over distance.


Regards,
Peter.



Telstar Electronics September 2nd 07 01:23 PM

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Why Do You Need a Speech Processor for Your CB Radio?
Two-way radio communication relies on the modulation contained within
the signal. Maintaining a high modulation level is crucial in
providing the highest possible efficiency from any transmitter
operating on AM, FM, or SSB modes. Two-way radios also rely on
microphones that inherently change audio levels delivered to the
transmitter. This causes transmitter modulation to fluctuate greatly
depending on voice level and pitch. The average modulation of a
typical voice signal is only about 40%. This low percentage applied to
the transmitter, results in less than optimal transmission range.

Other Processors Have a Problem...
Other speech processors use a low-cost "audio clipping" approach to
achieve compression. While this method is economical for the
manufacturer, clipping distorts the original signal and sounds fuzzy
on the air. What these types of audio processors gain in volume, they
lose in voice intelligibility.

VoiceMax is Different...
VoiceMax uses a sophisticated AGC (Automatic Gain Control) circuit
that installs inside your transceiver to hold the audio level
constant, with less than 1% harmonic distortion. No "clipping" type
processor can come close to this low distortion level. Whether you're
whispering or shouting, VoiceMax holds your transceiver at 100%
modulation allowing you to punch through heavy channel traffic without
sacrificing voice clarity. VoiceMax incorporates a feature not offered
on other processors. The adjustable noise gate allows the user to
block unwanted ambient background sounds. This feature is especially
helpful in mobile environments where wind and road noise can be an
issue. VoiceMax works with your non-amplified dynamic microphone to
give you tremendous audio punch without all the background noise
associated with power microphones.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Peter September 4th 07 05:53 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote...
Peter... I was just out at your site. I suggest you update your page
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/...ics/solder.php to
comply with RoHS.


Maybe you would like to point out which part of the directive
regulates Web design. I'll help you out, name the group...
Large household appliances
Small household appliances
IT &Telecommunications equipment
Consumer equipment
Lighting equipment
Electrical and electronic tools
Toys leisure and sports equipment
Medical devices
Monitoring and control instruments
Automatic dispensers

Then, maybe you could point out which part of the directive
applies to Web masters. Again, I'll help you out... name the
group:
Producers
Retailers and Distributors
Local authorities
Waste management industry
Exporters and reprocessors
Businesses and other non-household users of EEE

Reference:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/innovation/sus...page29048.html


Also, in answering the above, you need to understand that the
WEEE is just a directive. Each member state can make their
own laws based on the suggestions within it.


Although it clearly does not apply to me, you had better
give it a real good look over. If you plan to export to the EU,
your products must conform to the standards as applied in the
member state to which you export.


After all you are part of the European directive. You
better get with the program...



Although it is only a directive, and clearly does NOT regulate
Web design, I am not an unreasonable man. So I am willing
to offer you a deal...

You stop chanting CB voodoo and false claims, and stop trying
to sell your SplatterMax here in the UK, and I will do my best to
ensure that all future pages are manufactured using RoHS
compatible pixels and ozone-friendly CSS.

Sound reasonable to you?


Regards,
Peter.



Peter September 9th 07 05:30 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" ignored
the facts, preferring to post his unproven CB voodoo...

Griffter voodoo snipped


Ill take that standard spam message as another "guilty" plea: That
you know the claims will mislead potential customers, but you only
care about trying to sell your outdated product.


Regards,
Peter.



Telstar Electronics September 9th 07 02:19 PM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
On Sep 8, 11:30 pm, " Peter" wrote:
the facts, preferring to post his unproven CB voodoo...


You seems to like the word voodoo... lol
www.telstar-electronics.com


Peter September 13th 07 05:24 AM

Hey... What Happened to Frank?
 
"Telstar Electronics" wrote...

Peter... I was just out at your site. I suggest you update your page
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/...ics/solder.php to
comply with RoHS. After all you are part of the European directive.
You better get with the program...


Is your product RoHS compliant, to the requirements of the UK?

Oh, wait a minute...

SSM2188S is not RoHS compliant.


Is that not the part you use? Does that not make your
product illegal to place on the market within the
United Kingdom?

You had better check all the parts used in manufacture. Dealers
could be extremely unhappy if they found their stock seized
and used as evidence before being destroyed.
But it may not quite be that bad, Trading Standards often offer
the chance to disown the items, allowing them to just go
straight to the destruction stage.

As you were so keen to ensure my Web site met the standards,
I am sure that you would want to be sure of the legal position
of your product.

In case you wondered, according to UK law, Lou's speech
processor is exempt but your VoiceMax must comply with the
regulations.
I suspect that, if any non-compliant products have been sold,
those "in the field" would need to be recalled.

That could be quite embarassing.


Regards,
Peter.



Peter September 15th 07 05:17 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote...

You seems to like the word voodoo... lol


And you don't appear to like answering technical or
tricky questions.

Here's one for you:
Is your VoiceMax RoHS compliant?

Or maybe you believe that a customer or dealer does
not need to know whether a product is legal.



Regards,
Peter.




Peter September 19th 07 05:59 AM

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"Freddy the Destroyer" wrote...
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:17:38 +0100, " Peter"

Here's one for you:
Is your VoiceMax RoHS compliant?

Or maybe you believe that a customer or dealer does
not need to know whether a product is legal.


Great... Another stupid, socialist Brit...


Why, because I believe that a customer has the right
to know about the product they are buying?
You think that makes me a socialist?

Maybe all the products in all the shops should be in
plain black, unmarked boxes - be cause wanting to
know details of what we are buying makes us a
stupid socialist... huh?

Don't forget, it was Griffter who first mentioned the
legal requirement. He suggested that my Web site
needs to meet the standard (which was incorrect),
knowing that his product does not.
Does that make him a "stupid socialist", as well as
a hypocrite?

Maybe you need to take a look at an English dictionary.

The person who doesn't want to know before parting
with their money is the supid one.

Who ****ing cares?


Those who get ripped off may care.
The CB shops in this country do not sell illegal CB equipment,
because they know what happens... from experience.

The law in this country appears to go heavier on someone
selling an illegal (even if harmless) product than it does
on paedophiles (who may get off with community hours
or a telling off).

It may be a crap system, but people and dealers should
at least be informed if something is not legal.


Are you still ****ed about your great great grandad


Never knew him.

getting his ass kicked in the war?


Which one, humans versus Dinosaurs?
Bloody hell, OM, who f'kin cares?


Regards,
Peter.




Peter September 21st 07 05:33 AM

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"Freddy the Destroyer" wrote...
" Peter" wrote:

Are you still ****ed about your great great grandad
getting his ass kicked in the war?


Which one, humans versus Dinosaurs?
Bloody hell, OM, who f'kin cares?


Obviously you do, Peter.


WRONG.
It was YOU who mentioned some war, please do try to keep up.

Now shut the fark up.


With all due respect, as little as that may be, no.


Peter.



Peter September 29th 07 05:56 AM

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"Freddy the Destroyer" wrote...
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:33:13 +0100, " Peter"
wrote:

It was YOU who mentioned some war, please do try to keep up.


Some war? LMAO@YOU


If you really cannot remember what you posted, look back at it.
Here, I'll help you out...

"Freddy the Destroyer" wrote...
Are you still ****ed about your great great grandad getting
his ass kicked in the war?


Remember it now?
Not being around at the time of my great great grandad, I
have no way of knowing which war you may have met him in.


Try it for a change you commie *******.


Anyone who points out your errors is a commie, huh?
Clearly very little about me, as I was born to married parents.


You will have to try a little harder.


Regards,
Peter.




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