On Aug 25, 7:41 am, "vince" wrote:


No one has actually reviewed it or said they have fitted it - they only
describe how well the package was wrapped or if it arrived. Show me one
person that has fitted the unit and aligned it correctly using test
equipment, then show the displays on a spectrum analyser and I would like to
see the FM deviation display.

That is far beyond any cber's ability. IF they can get it installed
they will crank everything up to the max to make sure they get all the
"swang" on the meter they can and splatter across all channels.

On Aug 25, 5:01 pm, cmdr buzz corey
wrote:
That is far beyond any cber's ability. IF they can get it installed
they will crank everything up to the max to make sure they get all the
"swang" on the meter they can and splatter across all channels.

Well... you may be right about the first part... lol
But as far as getting as much swing... that would be a neat trick with
an audio device AGC such as VoiceMax. You see the AGC holds the
modulation up no matter what level the input is... therefore no
swing... just constant maximum modulation output. VoiceMax actually
doubles the power of any CB by taking the average modulation to 100%.
www.telstar-electronics.com

On Aug 25, 4:48 pm, Telstar Electronics
wrote:
On Aug 25, 5:01 pm,cmdr buzz
wrote:

That is far beyond any cber's ability. IF they can get it installed
they will crank everything up to the max to make sure they get all the
"swang" on the meter they can and splatter across all channels.

Well... you may be right about the first part... lol
But as far as getting as much swing... that would be a neat trick with
an audio device AGC such as VoiceMax. You see the AGC holds the
modulation up no matter what level the input is... therefore no
swing... just constant maximum modulation output. VoiceMax actually
doubles the power of any CB by taking the average modulation to 100%.www.telstar-electronics.com

To get the average modulation to 100% then you have to be
overmodulating.

On Aug 26, 12:12 am, cmdr buzz corey
wrote:
To get the average modulation to 100% then you have to be
overmodulating.

Absolutely not!
If you hold the modulation right at 100%... guess what the average
is... lol
www.telstar-electronics.com

On Aug 26, 6:22 am, Telstar Electronics
wrote:
On Aug 26, 12:12 am, cmdr buzz corey
wrote:

To get the average modulation to 100% then you have to be
overmodulating.

Absolutely not!
If you hold the modulation right at 100%... guess what the average
is... lolwww.telstar-electronics.com

Still sounds like the mode would be 100% with the mean slightly below.

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:05:11 -0000, Paul Johnson
wrote:

|On Aug 26, 6:22 am, Telstar Electronics
|wrote:
| On Aug 26, 12:12 am, cmdr buzz corey
| wrote:
|
| To get the average modulation to 100% then you have to be
| overmodulating.
|
| Absolutely not!
| If you hold the modulation right at 100%... guess what the average
| is... lolwww.telstar-electronics.com
|
|Still sounds like the mode would be 100% with the mean slightly below.
|-------------

It maybe possible to get to 100% average modulation without
overmodulation. Still such a signal is really unitelligable and not
worth the effort to achieve it. A voice so compressed that the peakto
average amplitudes are equal will more than likely yield a totally
unitelligable signal.

I also doubt the claims of 100% average modulation. A decent signal
would have about 50% average modulation. After that, you have nothing
but a trashy signal in my opinion. Also the claims of double the power
are truley absurd.

james

On Aug 26, 7:50 pm, james wrote:
It maybe possible to get to 100% average modulation without
overmodulation. Still such a signal is really unitelligable and not
worth the effort to achieve it. A voice so compressed that the peakto
average amplitudes are equal will more than likely yield a totally
unitelligable signal.

Absolute nonsense. Why do you think that sustaining 100% modulation
will render the signal unintelligible? The modulation percentage has
to do with the level of modulation applied to the transmitter. As long
as you stay below overmodulation (100%) then if the modulation signal
has not been clipped... or waveshape altered in any way except size...
then your modulation will be perfect... and it will contain all the
intelligence it had originally. Not only can it be done... people who
have VoiceMax do it every day.
www.telstar-electronics.com

"james" wrote...

It maybe possible to get to 100% average modulation without
overmodulation. Still such a signal is really unitelligable and not
worth the effort to achieve it. A voice so compressed that the peakto
average amplitudes are equal will more than likely yield a totally
unitelligable signal.


THE IDEA THAT SUSTAINING 100% MODULATION MAKES
SOMETHING HARDER FOR THE HUMAN MIND TO INTERPRET
IS ABSOLUTELY REDICULOUS. I FIND THE THE CONCEPT
THAT IT CAN MAKE A PERSON'S BRAIN ACHE JUST TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND SUCH SIGNALS JUST COMPLETELY TOTALLY
AND UTTERLY INCOMPREHENSIBLE. I HAVE NEVER HEARD
SUCH ABSOLUTE DRIVEL DURING MY ENTIRE EXISTANCE.
DECIBEL LEVEL IS EVERYTHING AND I GO AROUND SHOUTING
ALL THE TIME.


;~)
Peter.

- Message posted with the new TextMax text processor -

On Aug 26, 7:22 am, Telstar Electronics
wrote:
On Aug 26, 12:12 am,cmdr buzz
wrote:

To get the average modulation to 100% then you have to be
overmodulating.

Absolutely not!
If you hold the modulation right at 100%... guess what the average
is... lolwww.telstar-electronics.com

You can modulate over 100% on positive peaks, assuming the power
supplied to the final final amp stage being modulated can handle the
extra power without clipping the envelope, but you can't go over 100%
on negative peaks without distortion. So to get an average modulation
of 100% with reasonable signal quality you would have to over modulate
on positive peaks and never go over 100% on negative peaks. I doubt
your processor nor any cb can handle that. So you can't just "hold the
modulation at 100%".

On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:00:15 -0700, cmdr buzz corey
wrote:

|On Aug 26, 7:22 am, Telstar Electronics
|wrote:
| On Aug 26, 12:12 am,cmdr buzz
| wrote:
|
| To get the average modulation to 100% then you have to be
| overmodulating.
|
| Absolutely not!
| If you hold the modulation right at 100%... guess what the average
| is... lolwww.telstar-electronics.com
|
|You can modulate over 100% on positive peaks, assuming the power
|supplied to the final final amp stage being modulated can handle the
|extra power without clipping the envelope, but you can't go over 100%
|on negative peaks without distortion. So to get an average modulation
|of 100% with reasonable signal quality you would have to over modulate
|on positive peaks and never go over 100% on negative peaks. I doubt
|your processor nor any cb can handle that. So you can't just "hold the
|modulation at 100%".
|-------------

Yes there is was a technique used in the early days of AM called
supermodulation. That is where the positive peaks of the wavform could
exceed 100% but the negative peaks still cannot.

This is still not yielding an average of 100%.

james