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Telstar Electronics September 3rd 07 02:03 PM

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On Sep 2, 10:56 pm, cmdr buzz corey
wrote:
A good
speech processor, properly adjusted can enhance the signal, but none
can "hold the modulation at 100 percent" as the snake oil salesman
claims.


What are you basing this statement on? Fact or fiction? Please give a
reference(s) that support your claim that holding the modulation at
100% can't be done.

On the other hand... AGC circuits (like is used in VoiceMax) are well
known... and support my claim that this rock-solid modulation level
can be achieved.
www.telstar-electronics.com


John Smith September 3rd 07 05:29 PM

Worldwide Feedback Pouring in... VoiceMax a Huge Success!
 
james wrote:

...
|On equal signals producing a heterodyne--you'll hear the guy with the
|speech compressor ...
|
|JS
|--------------

You will hear the one with the strongest carrier.

james


What mental disorder prevents you from understanding "equal?" Are you
an english as second language idiot?

JS

james September 4th 07 03:57 AM

Worldwide Feedback Pouring in... VoiceMax a Huge Success!
 
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:29:18 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

|james wrote:
|
| ...
| |On equal signals producing a heterodyne--you'll hear the guy with the
| |speech compressor ...
| |
| |JS
| |--------------
|
| You will hear the one with the strongest carrier.
|
| james
|
|What mental disorder prevents you from understanding "equal?" Are you
|an english as second language idiot?
|
|JS
|---------------

The probability of two signals being identically equal in amplitude
over a period of time is very remote. IF you understood electronics
and propogation of radio signals you would not have made such a
comment.

james

cmdr buzz corey September 4th 07 05:38 AM

Worldwide Feedback Pouring in... VoiceMax a Huge Success!
 
On Sep 3, 7:03 am, Telstar Electronics
wrote:
On Sep 2, 10:56 pm, cmdr buzz corey
wrote:

A good
speech processor, properly adjusted can enhance the signal, but none
can "hold the modulation at 100 percent" as the snake oil salesman
claims.


What are you basing this statement on? Fact or fiction? Please give a
reference(s) that support your claim that holding the modulation at
100% can't be done.


Please give some facts about how you can hold the modulation at a
constant 100%. To have AM the modulated envelope must vary in strength
otherwise you have no audio, just carrier. Your claims are just snake
oil.


On the other hand... AGC circuits (like is used in VoiceMax) are well
known... and support my claim that this rock-solid modulation level
can be achieved.www.telstar-electronics.com




cmdr buzz corey September 4th 07 05:39 AM

Worldwide Feedback Pouring in... VoiceMax a Huge Success!
 
On Sep 3, 8:57 pm, james wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:29:18 -0700, John Smith
|---------------

The probability of two signals being identically equal in amplitude
over a period of time is very remote. IF you understood electronics
and propogation of radio signals you would not have made such a
comment.

james


Don't confuse him with facts.





Telstar Electronics September 4th 07 12:51 PM

Worldwide Feedback Pouring in... VoiceMax a Huge Success!
 
Bottom line... it works as advertised. The ebay feedback supports
that...
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...d=260154735664
Whether you believe it or not is of little consequence...
www.telstar-electronics.com


james September 4th 07 09:22 PM

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:38:32 -0700, cmdr buzz corey
wrote:

|Please give some facts about how you can hold the modulation at a
|constant 100%. To have AM the modulated envelope must vary in strength
|otherwise you have no audio, just carrier. Your claims are just snake
|oil.
|----------------

Actually an AM signal with a constant 100% modulated signal is more
equivalent to a single tone at a constant level. Just carrier would be
a condition when there is no modulation.

In either case there is no intelligence being transmitted.

james

Telstar Electronics September 4th 07 11:42 PM

Worldwide Feedback Pouring in... VoiceMax a Huge Success!
 
On Sep 4, 3:22 pm, james wrote:
Actually an AM signal with a constant 100% modulated signal is more
equivalent to a single tone at a constant level. Just carrier would be
a condition when there is no modulation.
In either case there is no intelligence being transmitted.


Nonsense. Why can't you have multiple frequencies (such as voice) at
the 100% level? The answer: you can!
Now that signal has all the original intelligence of the voice that
created it...
www.telstar-electronics.com




james September 5th 07 02:06 AM

Worldwide Feedback Pouring in... VoiceMax a Huge Success!
 
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:42:26 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:

|On Sep 4, 3:22 pm, james wrote:
| Actually an AM signal with a constant 100% modulated signal is more
| equivalent to a single tone at a constant level. Just carrier would be
| a condition when there is no modulation.
| In either case there is no intelligence being transmitted.
|
|Nonsense. Why can't you have multiple frequencies (such as voice) at
|the 100% level? The answer: you can!
|Now that signal has all the original intelligence of the voice that
|created it...
|www.telstar-electronics.com
|
|--------------

One frequency or five thousand frequencies, if they are all at the
same amplitude the resultant modulated signal is still unintelligable.

You simple can't transmit intelligence with a constant 100% modulated
AM carrier.

Now if you compressor was advertised at giving a average of 50%
modulation, then I would not have as much issues. On average an AM
signal will be about 33% average modulation with peaks at about 100%.
The human voice generally lies between 3 to 1 and 5 to 1 peak to
average power.

james

cmdr buzz corey September 5th 07 06:11 AM

Worldwide Feedback Pouring in... VoiceMax a Huge Success!
 
On Sep 4, 7:50 pm, "Yo Mamma" wrote:
"james" wrote in message

...



On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:42:26 -0700, Telstar Electronics
wrote:


|On Sep 4, 3:22 pm, james wrote:
| Actually an AM signal with a constant 100% modulated signal is more
| equivalent to a single tone at a constant level. Just carrier would be
| a condition when there is no modulation.
| In either case there is no intelligence being transmitted.
|
|Nonsense. Why can't you have multiple frequencies (such as voice) at
|the 100% level? The answer: you can!
|Now that signal has all the original intelligence of the voice that
|created it...
|www.telstar-electronics.com
|
|--------------


One frequency or five thousand frequencies, if they are all at the
same amplitude the resultant modulated signal is still unintelligable.


You simple can't transmit intelligence with a constant 100% modulated
AM carrier.


Now if you compressor was advertised at giving a average of 50%
modulation, then I would not have as much issues. On average an AM
signal will be about 33% average modulation with peaks at about 100%.
The human voice generally lies between 3 to 1 and 5 to 1 peak to
average power.


james


So, if I inject a 1KC continuous tone into an AM transmitter, it will be
unintelligible?


All you will hear is a 1 kHz tone, nothing more, so what's the purpose
of that unless you are intent on transmitting MCW. If you push all
peaks of the audio waveform to 100% modulation then all you have is
tons of distortion. The claim is pure snake oil.

Now rethink YOUR argument again, Yo Mamma



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