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Steve March 1st 08 04:01 AM

Tube rig
 
I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone through,
new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too, beautiful. No
drift after warm-up.

I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says the
receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so I'm back
in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.

My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are very
rare now.

How much will that cost me in today dollars?

TIA

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james March 2nd 08 01:39 AM

Tube rig
 
On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:

|I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone through,
|new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too, beautiful. No
|drift after warm-up.
|
|I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says the
|receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so I'm back
|in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
|
|My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are very
|rare now.
|
|How much will that cost me in today dollars?
|
|TIA
|
|------------------

more than what the rig is worth.

my opinion

james

Vinnie S. March 2nd 08 04:43 AM

Tube rig
 
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james wrote:

On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:

|I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone through,
|new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too, beautiful. No
|drift after warm-up.
|
|I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says the
|receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so I'm back
|in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
|
|My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are very
|rare now.
|
|How much will that cost me in today dollars?
|
|TIA
|
|------------------

more than what the rig is worth.

my opinion


What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great looking rigs.

Vinnie S.

james March 2nd 08 02:22 PM

Tube rig
 
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:34 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

|On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james wrote:
|
|On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:
|
||I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone through,
||new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too, beautiful. No
||drift after warm-up.
||
||I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says the
||receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so I'm back
||in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
||
||My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are very
||rare now.
||
||How much will that cost me in today dollars?
||
||TIA
||
||------------------
|
|more than what the rig is worth.
|
|my opinion
|
|What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great looking rigs.
|
|Vinnie S.
|-----------

6JS6C, two in the final stage. Even if you convert the final stage to
6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.

james

Steve March 2nd 08 02:54 PM

Tube rig
 
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:34 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

|On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james wrote:
|
|On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:
|
||I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone
||through, new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too,
||beautiful. No drift after warm-up.
||
||I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says
||the receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so
||I'm back in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
||
||My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are
||very rare now.
||
||How much will that cost me in today dollars?
||
||TIA
||
||------------------
|
|more than what the rig is worth.
|
|my opinion
|
|What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great
|looking rigs.
|
|Vinnie S.
|-----------

6JS6C, two in the final stage.

Yeah pricey!
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=6JS6C&category0=

Even if you convert the final stage to
6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.

james

Ive heard it's not a good idea to switch the tubes.

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Vinnie S. March 2nd 08 07:35 PM

Tube rig
 


6JS6C, two in the final stage. Even if you convert the final stage to
6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.

james



I have been taking on a couple of restoration projects. First trying old CBs.
Then hope to try Ham rigs. Do a lot of the old rigs use these tubes?

Vinnie S.

HAHAHAHAH!!!! March 2nd 08 11:43 PM

Tube rig
 
On Mar 1, 11:43*pm, Vinnie S. wrote:
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james wrote:
On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:


|I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone through,
|new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too, beautiful. No
|drift after warm-up.
|
|I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says the
|receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so I'm back
|in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
|
|My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are very
|rare now.
|
|How much will that cost me in today dollars?
|
|TIA
|
|------------------


more than what the rig is worth.


my opinion


What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great looking rigs.

Vinnie S.- Hide quoted text -

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12BY7A driver and pair of 6JS6C finals in 101 line, except for 101Z
and 101ZD. They are 12BY7A driver and 6146B finals.

jim March 3rd 08 09:42 PM

Tube rig
 
Hey Vinnie I have an old Swan Egineering SW-240 Single Side Band Xcvr
you can have. Picked it up from a neighbors trash pile just before the
rains came. Just pay postage and its yours.
Also have a Johnson Viking MultiBand (10, 15, 20, 40, 60, 80 & 160)
meters but the fooker weighs like 80 lbs. Again yours for postage.

Vinnie S. wrote:
6JS6C, two in the final stage. Even if you convert the final stage to
6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.

james




I have been taking on a couple of restoration projects. First trying old CBs.
Then hope to try Ham rigs. Do a lot of the old rigs use these tubes?

Vinnie S.



Vinnie S. March 4th 08 01:50 AM

Tube rig
 
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:42:20 -0500, jim wrote:

Hey Vinnie I have an old Swan Egineering SW-240 Single Side Band Xcvr
you can have. Picked it up from a neighbors trash pile just before the
rains came. Just pay postage and its yours.
Also have a Johnson Viking MultiBand (10, 15, 20, 40, 60, 80 & 160)
meters but the fooker weighs like 80 lbs. Again yours for postage.



Will do. I might have to pick them up, or meet you. Postage would be expensive,
but I am not worried about that. The weight of those things do not ship well.
Some always get damaged. I could meet you somewhere in Staten Island or such,
and would reimberse you for gas and tolls. But I want them both. I don't care of
condition. But are they complete?

I will be out of town this weekend (Florida).

Vinnie S.

jim March 4th 08 10:39 PM

Tube rig
 


Vinnie S. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:42:20 -0500, jim wrote:


Hey Vinnie I have an old Swan Egineering SW-240 Single Side Band Xcvr
you can have. Picked it up from a neighbors trash pile just before the
rains came. Just pay postage and its yours.
Also have a Johnson Viking MultiBand (10, 15, 20, 40, 60, 80 & 160)
meters but the fooker weighs like 80 lbs. Again yours for postage.




Will do. I might have to pick them up, or meet you. Postage would be expensive,
but I am not worried about that. The weight of those things do not ship well.
Some always get damaged. I could meet you somewhere in Staten Island or such,
and would reimberse you for gas and tolls. But I want them both. I don't care of
condition. But are they complete?

I will be out of town this weekend (Florida).

Vinnie S.

Email me direct Vinnie as I have an idea of where we can hook up.
The Swan has the original mic attached. Even has what appears to be
brackets where the gent used it as a mobile. The Viking doesn't have the
mic or power cord but you could figure those out. Its a restoration
thing with these but I'm fairly sure they work.


Vinnie S. March 5th 08 12:01 AM

Tube rig
 
a).

Vinnie S.

Email me direct Vinnie as I have an idea of where we can hook up.
The Swan has the original mic attached. Even has what appears to be
brackets where the gent used it as a mobile. The Viking doesn't have the
mic or power cord but you could figure those out. Its a restoration
thing with these but I'm fairly sure they work.



I don't give a **** about mic or power cords, or even tubes. I was more
concerned about knobs and things like that.

I talked to me co-worker who lives in Edison, NJ. He said he would be a relay,
and pick up from you, and I pick up from him. We can arrange a meeting place
like Staten Island Hospital area right near the Verrazano, or somewhere like
that. How far are you from the Verrazano?


Vinnie S.

jim March 5th 08 01:37 AM

Tube rig
 


Vinnie S. wrote:
a).

Vinnie S.


Email me direct Vinnie as I have an idea of where we can hook up.
The Swan has the original mic attached. Even has what appears to be
brackets where the gent used it as a mobile. The Viking doesn't have the
mic or power cord but you could figure those out. Its a restoration
thing with these but I'm fairly sure they work.




I don't give a **** about mic or power cords, or even tubes. I was more
concerned about knobs and things like that.

I talked to me co-worker who lives in Edison, NJ. He said he would be a relay,
and pick up from you, and I pick up from him. We can arrange a meeting place
like Staten Island Hospital area right near the Verrazano, or somewhere like
that. How far are you from the Verrazano?


Vinnie S.


Email me direct Vinnie as there are some people coming and going between
here and there in the next couple of days.
btw, 50 miles from the Verranzon.


Vinnie S. March 5th 08 01:46 AM

Tube rig
 

I don't give a **** about mic or power cords, or even tubes. I was more
concerned about knobs and things like that.
I talked to me co-worker who lives in Edison, NJ. He said he would be
a relay,
and pick up from you, and I pick up from him. We can arrange a meeting
place
like Staten Island Hospital area right near the Verrazano, or
somewhere like
that. How far are you from the Verrazano?


Vinnie S.



Email me direct Vinnie as there are some people coming and going between
here and there in the next couple of days.
btw, 50 miles from the Verranzon.

Verrazano and 50 miles east.



Don't bother. I have him meet you at a closer area to your house, or we can
arrange a double relay.

Vinnie S.

jim March 5th 08 01:47 AM

Tube rig
 


jim wrote:


Vinnie S. wrote:

a).

Vinnie S.


Email me direct Vinnie as I have an idea of where we can hook up.
The Swan has the original mic attached. Even has what appears to be
brackets where the gent used it as a mobile. The Viking doesn't have
the mic or power cord but you could figure those out. Its a
restoration thing with these but I'm fairly sure they work.





I don't give a **** about mic or power cords, or even tubes. I was more
concerned about knobs and things like that.
I talked to me co-worker who lives in Edison, NJ. He said he would be
a relay,
and pick up from you, and I pick up from him. We can arrange a meeting
place
like Staten Island Hospital area right near the Verrazano, or
somewhere like
that. How far are you from the Verrazano?


Vinnie S.



Email me direct Vinnie as there are some people coming and going between
here and there in the next couple of days.
btw, 50 miles from the Verranzon.

Verrazano and 50 miles east.


jim March 5th 08 01:59 AM

Tube rig
 


Vinnie S. wrote:
I don't give a **** about mic or power cords, or even tubes. I was more
concerned about knobs and things like that.
I talked to me co-worker who lives in Edison, NJ. He said he would be
a relay,
and pick up from you, and I pick up from him. We can arrange a meeting
place
like Staten Island Hospital area right near the Verrazano, or
somewhere like
that. How far are you from the Verrazano?


Vinnie S.


Email me direct Vinnie as there are some people coming and going between
here and there in the next couple of days.
btw, 50 miles from the Verranzon.


Verrazano and 50 miles east.




Don't bother. I have him meet you at a closer area to your house, or we can
arrange a double relay.

Vinnie S.


see my email to your home account.


Steve March 5th 08 01:05 PM

Tube rig
 
jim wrote:
see my email to your home account.


You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P

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jim March 6th 08 02:14 AM

Tube rig
 


Steve wrote:
jim wrote:

see my email to your home account.


You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P

Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to a
gent in Minnesota a few years back. I wonder if he still reads this board.


Steve March 6th 08 12:08 PM

Tube rig
 
jim wrote:
Steve wrote:
jim wrote:

see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P

Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to a
gent in Minnesota a few years back. I wonder if he still reads this
board.

One piece is 12 foot? The boom is longer than that, no? Closer to 18'?
It's not in 3 pieces?

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Vinnie S. March 6th 08 02:36 PM

Tube rig
 
On 06 Mar 2008 12:08:11 GMT, Steve wrote:

jim wrote:
Steve wrote:
jim wrote:

see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P

Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to a
gent in Minnesota a few years back. I wonder if he still reads this
board.

One piece is 12 foot? The boom is longer than that, no? Closer to 18'?
It's not in 3 pieces?



UPS and FEDEX run up the bill on oversized boxes, even if they don't weight
much. Getting an IMAX was obscenely expensive thru the internet. I got one
locally.

Vinnie S.

Steve March 6th 08 05:12 PM

Tube rig
 
Vinnie S. wrote:
On 06 Mar 2008 12:08:11 GMT, Steve wrote:

jim wrote:
Steve wrote:
jim wrote:

see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P

Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to
a gent in Minnesota a few years back. I wonder if he still reads this
board.

One piece is 12 foot? The boom is longer than that, no? Closer to 18'?
It's not in 3 pieces?


UPS and FEDEX run up the bill on oversized boxes, even if they don't
weight much. Getting an IMAX was obscenely expensive thru the internet. I
got one locally.

Vinnie S.

Hmmm, the nearest jogunn dealer to me is in Columbus. The shipping
shouldn't be more than it would cost me to drive there and back, no matter
where I buy it.

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jim March 7th 08 12:54 AM

Tube rig
 


Steve wrote:
Vinnie S. wrote:

On 06 Mar 2008 12:08:11 GMT, Steve wrote:


jim wrote:

Steve wrote:

jim wrote:


see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to
a gent in Minnesota a few years back. I wonder if he still reads this
board.


One piece is 12 foot? The boom is longer than that, no? Closer to 18'?
It's not in 3 pieces?


UPS and FEDEX run up the bill on oversized boxes, even if they don't
weight much. Getting an IMAX was obscenely expensive thru the internet. I
got one locally.

Vinnie S.


Hmmm, the nearest jogunn dealer to me is in Columbus. The shipping
shouldn't be more than it would cost me to drive there and back, no matter
where I buy it.

Right, it is an 18 foot boom and no its not in 3 pieces rather 1. I
replaced all the hardware with stainless but it needs the polyester
roping to keep it level. When I get around to it I'll send you some pics.


Steve March 8th 08 12:43 AM

Tube rig
 
jim wrote:
Steve wrote:
Vinnie S. wrote:

On 06 Mar 2008 12:08:11 GMT, Steve wrote:


jim wrote:

Steve wrote:

jim wrote:


see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II
to a gent in Minnesota a few years back. I wonder if he still reads
this board.


One piece is 12 foot? The boom is longer than that, no? Closer to 18'?
It's not in 3 pieces?

UPS and FEDEX run up the bill on oversized boxes, even if they don't
weight much. Getting an IMAX was obscenely expensive thru the internet.
I got one locally.

Vinnie S.


Hmmm, the nearest jogunn dealer to me is in Columbus. The shipping
shouldn't be more than it would cost me to drive there and back, no
matter where I buy it.

Right, it is an 18 foot boom and no its not in 3 pieces rather 1. I
replaced all the hardware with stainless but it needs the polyester
roping to keep it level. When I get around to it I'll send you some pics.

Email me first when you get the time.

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james March 8th 08 03:22 AM

Tube rig
 
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:35:05 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

|
|
|6JS6C, two in the final stage. Even if you convert the final stage to
|6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.
|
|james
|
|
|I have been taking on a couple of restoration projects. First trying old CBs.
|Then hope to try Ham rigs. Do a lot of the old rigs use these tubes?
|
|Vinnie S.
|
|------------

Just Yeasu, Drake used 6JB6s. Kenwood used 6146s. Forgot what ICOM
used.


james

james March 8th 08 03:31 AM

Tube rig
 
On 02 Mar 2008 14:54:19 GMT, Steve wrote:

wrote:
| On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:34 -0500, Vinnie S.
| wrote:
|
| |On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james wrote:
| |
| |On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:
| |
| ||I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone
| ||through, new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it too,
| ||beautiful. No drift after warm-up.
| ||
| ||I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner says
| ||the receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my ts-520 so
| ||I'm back in the market for a fine sounding tube transceiver.
| ||
| ||My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are
| ||very rare now.
| ||
| ||How much will that cost me in today dollars?
| ||
| ||TIA
| ||
| ||------------------
| |
| |more than what the rig is worth.
| |
| |my opinion
| |
| |What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great
| |looking rigs.
| |
| |Vinnie S.
| |-----------
|
| 6JS6C, two in the final stage.
|
|Yeah pricey!
|http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
|from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=6JS6C&category0=
|
| Even if you convert the final stage to
| 6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.
|
| james
|
|Ive heard it's not a good idea to switch the tubes.
|
|---------------------

If you know what y ou are dong the conversion can be done. Today there
are not a lot of amature operators well schooled in tube theory. The
biggest issue is matching filament votages and currents. Some
transcievers and transmitters will put the final fillaments in series
with other tubes. Drake dows this with their TR4 and T4X units. I had
to strap a large wattage resistor over the filaments to balance
current.

I did a conversion on a Drake T4X to 6146Bs and the biggest issue I
had was keeping the final stage nuetralized on 10M. I ended up
regulating the screen voltage down to about 150VDC from the 250VDC the
6JB6s ran at. That helped a bunch. The drop in output was not a major
concern. Still was able to get 80W on 10M. The HA10 really only needs
about 50 W drive. Also modified the T4X so that I could bypass the
finals and drive an NCL2000. Now that is a nice amp.

james

Landshark March 8th 08 04:45 AM

Tube rig
 

"jim" wrote in message
...


Steve wrote:
jim wrote:

see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P

Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to a



Why would he???:? Otherwise, how's it going Lad??

Landshark



jim March 8th 08 03:38 PM

Tube rig
 


Landshark wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...


Steve wrote:

jim wrote:


see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to a




Why would he???:? Otherwise, how's it going Lad??

Landshark


Why would he what? Could be better. Manchester United lost in the FA
Cup today after out playing a lesser team. Bahhhhhhhhhh...


Paul Johnson March 9th 08 07:33 PM

Tube rig
 
On Mar 6, 7:36 am, Vinnie S. wrote:

UPS and FEDEX run up the bill on oversized boxes, even if they don't weight
much. Getting an IMAX was obscenely expensive thru the internet. I got one
locally.


UPS and FEDEX plain will not accept packages with any dimension over 7
feet, end of story. Being an owner-operator in direct competition
with them, I end up getting a lot of business they turn down.


Landshark March 11th 08 02:41 AM

Tube rig
 

"jim" wrote in message
...


Landshark wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...


Steve wrote:

jim wrote:


see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to a




Why would he???:? Otherwise, how's it going Lad??

Landshark

Why would he what? Could be better. Manchester United lost in the FA Cup today
after out playing a lesser team. Bahhhhhhhhhh...



Ship the antenna, much better for people to meet each other, get an idea
who you're dealing with. AAAhhhhh, football (what's know as the real football
world wide), I'm geared up for NASCAR this year and counting the days before
baseball starts.

Landshark



Paul Johnson March 12th 08 12:18 AM

Tube rig
 
On Mar 9, 6:31 pm, Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Mar 6, 7:36 am, Vinnie S. wrote:


UPS and FEDEX run up the bill on oversized boxes, even if they don't weight
much. Getting an IMAX was obscenely expensive thru the internet. I got one
locally.


UPS and FEDEX plain will not accept packages with any dimension over 7
feet, end of story. Being an owner-operator in direct competition
with them, I end up getting a lot of business they turn down.


Hello Paul:

What shipping group is that? I have had Fedex ship 108 inch long boxes,
but I had to pay dearly for it.


I'd rather not say, mostly because I ask double what they're asking
for trips to California just for having to deal with the idiot locals
around that state...


jim March 12th 08 01:41 AM

Tube rig
 


Landshark wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...


Landshark wrote:

"jim" wrote in message
...


Steve wrote:


jim wrote:



see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II to a



Why would he???:? Otherwise, how's it going Lad??

Landshark


Why would he what? Could be better. Manchester United lost in the FA Cup today
after out playing a lesser team. Bahhhhhhhhhh...




Ship the antenna, much better for people to meet each other, get an idea
who you're dealing with. AAAhhhhh, football (what's know as the real football
world wide), I'm geared up for NASCAR this year and counting the days before
baseball starts.

Landshark


Listen bro, if I'm going to ship Steve my Jogunn I dont need to meet the
fooker. As a matter of fact I may be heading his way in June as long
as the snow melts by then hehehe


Steve March 12th 08 04:46 PM

Tube rig
 
wrote:
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:35:05 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

|
|
|6JS6C, two in the final stage. Even if you convert the final stage to
|6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.
|
|james
|
|
|I have been taking on a couple of restoration projects. First trying old
|CBs. Then hope to try Ham rigs. Do a lot of the old rigs use these
|tubes?
|
|Vinnie S.
|
|------------

Just Yeasu, Drake used 6JB6s. Kenwood used 6146s. Forgot what ICOM
used.

james

I ended up with that 101E, it's in mint shape, has new tubes and cabinet.
(just re-aligned) People say it sounds large with that electrovoice 664
mic. That rig was always known for good audio.

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Steve March 12th 08 04:51 PM

Tube rig
 
wrote:
On 02 Mar 2008 14:54:19 GMT, Steve wrote:

wrote:
| On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:43:34 -0500, Vinnie S.
| wrote:
|
| |On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:39:58 -0500, james
| |wrote:
| |
| |On 01 Mar 2008 04:01:22 GMT, Steve wrote:
| |
| ||I'm thinking about buying a Yaesu FT-101E that has just been gone
| ||through, new finals and all. (those strange tubes) NOS case on it
| ||too, beautiful. No drift after warm-up.
| ||
| ||I've heard it on the air, and it sounds -FAT- on SSB, the owner
| ||says the receive is golden too. Money back guarantee. I sold my
| ||ts-520 so I'm back in the market for a fine sounding tube
| ||transceiver.
| ||
| ||My question is re-tubing the finals someday, I understand those are
| ||very rare now.
| ||
| ||How much will that cost me in today dollars?
| ||
| ||TIA
| ||
| ||------------------
| |
| |more than what the rig is worth.
| |
| |my opinion
| |
| |What tubes are they? That is kind of discouraging. They are great
| |looking rigs.
| |
| |Vinnie S.
| |-----------
|
| 6JS6C, two in the final stage.
|
|Yeah pricey!
|
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
|from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=6JS6C&category0=
|
| Even if you convert the final stage to
| 6146B's you are still at a cost of $40 or more for a matched pair.
|
| james
|
|Ive heard it's not a good idea to switch the tubes.
|
|---------------------

If you know what y ou are dong the conversion can be done. Today there
are not a lot of amature operators well schooled in tube theory. The
biggest issue is matching filament votages and currents. Some
transcievers and transmitters will put the final fillaments in series
with other tubes. Drake dows this with their TR4 and T4X units. I had
to strap a large wattage resistor over the filaments to balance
current.

I did a conversion on a Drake T4X to 6146Bs and the biggest issue I
had was keeping the final stage nuetralized on 10M. I ended up
regulating the screen voltage down to about 150VDC from the 250VDC the
6JB6s ran at. That helped a bunch. The drop in output was not a major
concern. Still was able to get 80W on 10M. The HA10 really only needs
about 50 W drive. Also modified the T4X so that I could bypass the
finals and drive an NCL2000. Now that is a nice amp.

james

Yeah there you go James sounds like a plan. This old 30L1 seems to get
along with most anything I've tried, 70-100w in..I use an arb-704 buffer
when I run it with a transistor rig.

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Steve March 12th 08 04:58 PM

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jim wrote:
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see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II
to a



Why would he???:? Otherwise, how's it going Lad??

Landshark

Why would he what? Could be better. Manchester United lost in the FA
Cup today after out playing a lesser team. Bahhhhhhhhhh...




Ship the antenna, much better for people to meet each other, get an
idea who you're dealing with. AAAhhhhh, football (what's know as the
real football world wide), I'm geared up for NASCAR this year and
counting the days before baseball starts.

Landshark


Listen bro, if I'm going to ship Steve my Jogunn I dont need to meet the
fooker. As a matter of fact I may be heading his way in June as long
as the snow melts by then hehehe

Snow!? We only had 18 inches over the weekend. :P
Cedar point? Hey I'm afraid of that 5+5 now that you told me about that
rope support. That may be bigger than I want...(?)

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jim March 12th 08 11:39 PM

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Steve wrote:

jim wrote:

Landshark wrote:

"jim" wrote in message
...


Landshark wrote:


"jim" wrote in message
...



Steve wrote:



jim wrote:




see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II
to a



Why would he???:? Otherwise, how's it going Lad??

Landshark

Why would he what? Could be better. Manchester United lost in the FA
Cup today after out playing a lesser team. Bahhhhhhhhhh...




Ship the antenna, much better for people to meet each other, get an
idea who you're dealing with. AAAhhhhh, football (what's know as the
real football world wide), I'm geared up for NASCAR this year and
counting the days before baseball starts.

Landshark



Listen bro, if I'm going to ship Steve my Jogunn I dont need to meet the
fooker. As a matter of fact I may be heading his way in June as long
as the snow melts by then hehehe


Snow!? We only had 18 inches over the weekend. :P
Cedar point? Hey I'm afraid of that 5+5 now that you told me about that
rope support. That may be bigger than I want...(?)

18' long by about 12' high. The height is measured from the top of the
verticle to the bottom of what would one call a horizontal. |
/ \


Steve March 12th 08 11:57 PM

Tube rig
 
jim wrote:
Steve wrote:

jim wrote:

Landshark wrote:

"jim" wrote in message
...


Landshark wrote:


"jim" wrote in message
...



Steve wrote:



jim wrote:




see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II
to a



Why would he???:? Otherwise, how's it going Lad??

Landshark

Why would he what? Could be better. Manchester United lost in the
FA Cup today after out playing a lesser team. Bahhhhhhhhhh...




Ship the antenna, much better for people to meet each other, get an
idea who you're dealing with. AAAhhhhh, football (what's know as the
real football world wide), I'm geared up for NASCAR this year and
counting the days before baseball starts.

Landshark



Listen bro, if I'm going to ship Steve my Jogunn I dont need to meet
the
fooker. As a matter of fact I may be heading his way in June as long
as the snow melts by then hehehe


Snow!? We only had 18 inches over the weekend. :P
Cedar point? Hey I'm afraid of that 5+5 now that you told me about that
rope support. That may be bigger than I want...(?)

18' long by about 12' high. The height is measured from the top of the
verticle to the bottom of what would one call a horizontal. |
/ \


Qsk on the Gizmotchy design. The 5+5 star has rope strung across the top to
keep the ends from drooping tho, right?

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jim March 13th 08 04:33 PM

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Steve wrote:
jim wrote:

Steve wrote:


jim wrote:


Landshark wrote:


"jim" wrote in message
...



Landshark wrote:



"jim" wrote in message
...




Steve wrote:




jim wrote:





see my email to your home account.

You're gonna have to ship that jogunn! :-P


Its a 12 ft boom. Could be a problem. I did ship pieces of a PDL II
to a



Why would he???:? Otherwise, how's it going Lad??

Landshark

Why would he what? Could be better. Manchester United lost in the
FA Cup today after out playing a lesser team. Bahhhhhhhhhh...




Ship the antenna, much better for people to meet each other, get an
idea who you're dealing with. AAAhhhhh, football (what's know as the
real football world wide), I'm geared up for NASCAR this year and
counting the days before baseball starts.

Landshark



Listen bro, if I'm going to ship Steve my Jogunn I dont need to meet
the
fooker. As a matter of fact I may be heading his way in June as long
as the snow melts by then hehehe


Snow!? We only had 18 inches over the weekend. :P
Cedar point? Hey I'm afraid of that 5+5 now that you told me about that
rope support. That may be bigger than I want...(?)


18' long by about 12' high. The height is measured from the top of the
verticle to the bottom of what would one call a horizontal. |
/ \



Qsk on the Gizmotchy design. The 5+5 star has rope strung across the top to
keep the ends from drooping tho, right?

Yes.



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