Brenda Ann wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
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actually a good point. if i were to use the freq's the u.s. gov said i can
then what is the problem with slipping +/- 5kc's between 'channels'? is
that freebanding?


The frequencies that the US govt. says you can are those specific
frequencies that constitute the 40 standard CB channels. The distance away
from the center of any channel is tightly regulated, and you can't be more
than 0.005% away from that center (~1.3 KHz), which is actually pretty broad
when compared to say, broadcast AM, which is only allowed a 20 Hz leeway).


that is what the u.s. gov proclaims. my point is they have no say so
outside territorial waters. whether or not the gov abides by itu
standards on this matter is open.


better yet, who the hell is the u.s. gov to tell me what is legal or
not?


If you are a US citizen, they are granted that right by the constitution,
and by treaty.


please point out the constitutional section you mentioned.

if i were to float out to bermuda and xmit would i be freebanding

there?


You would then be under the jurisdiction of whatever radio authority covers
Bermuda. Aren't they a British colony? The UK Radio Authority is much more
harsh than the FCC.


right, the RA is tough. easier to monitor 65+/- million than appr 300
million

do our friends to the north and south really care what the fcc

says what americans can/cannot do? not likely....


Actually, yes. The treaties for use of various frequencies are there to
protect all the various countries that are signatories to them. The
Canadians are pretty hard on pirates (though they also have some rules in
place to give greater latitude on some bands than we do). I don't know what
communications law is like in Mexico, but I imagine that they deal with
people operating out of band/off channel too.


treaties not withstanding have you heard 10 & 11 meters recently? the
developing world is looking for the cheapest way to communicate with
their expatriates (sp?) in the u.s. one way to do it is using a setup
that after an initial outlay for equipment is basically free. their
problem is propagation not the gov.

In , jim wrote:

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better yet, who the hell is the u.s. gov to tell me what is legal or
not?


If you are a US citizen, they are granted that right by the constitution,
and by treaty.


please point out the constitutional section you mentioned.


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Frank Gilliland wrote:
In , jim wrote:

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better yet, who the hell is the u.s. gov to tell me what is legal or
not?


If you are a US citizen, they are granted that right by the constitution,
and by treaty.


please point out the constitutional section you mentioned.



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read the section you mentioned at the cornell website. it pertains to
the u.s. and its environs but no mention of people outside territorial
limits.
the world is a bigger place then what the u.s. dictates....

"jim" wrote in message
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read the section you mentioned at the cornell website. it pertains to
the u.s. and its environs but no mention of people outside territorial
limits.
the world is a bigger place then what the u.s. dictates....

This is so, but you asked specifically what right the US government had to
set regulations, it was stated that if you were a US citizen, it was granted
by the Constitution, and by treaty.

Further, the ITU does have worldwide jurisdiction, and they are the ones who
write the treaties, and every country is a signatory.

Brenda Ann wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
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read the section you mentioned at the cornell website. it pertains to
the u.s. and its environs but no mention of people outside territorial
limits.
the world is a bigger place then what the u.s. dictates....


This is so, but you asked specifically what right the US government had to
set regulations, it was stated that if you were a US citizen, it was granted
by the Constitution, and by treaty.

we are reading the constitution differently.


Further, the ITU does have worldwide jurisdiction, and they are the ones who
write the treaties, and every country is a signatory.

the itu is good for somethings but when it comes to freebands they have
little or no enforcement capabilities.

From: (Brenda=A0Ann)
"jim" wrote in message
...
read the section you mentioned at the cornell website. it pertains to
the u.s. and its environs but no mention of people outside territorial
limits.
the world is a bigger place then what the u.s. dictates....
_
This is so, but you asked specifically what

right the US government had to set

regulations, it was stated that if you were a US
citizen, it was granted by the Constitution, and
by treaty.

Further, the ITU does have worldwide

jurisdiction, and they are the ones who write

the treaties, and every country is a signatory.
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LOL..man, do you still have plenty to learn. "EVERY" country is NOT a
signatory. Shoot, you don't even know how many countries exist, (Nocodes
like yourself are inexperienced at HF and wouldn't have a clue
concerning such information) let alone conjure some story of how you
they ALL belong to the ITU and obey such..LOL!,,,If you had a clue, you
wouldn't have been reduced to hiding your shamed carcass and referring
to yourself as a female and seeking another access...LOL! Enjoy
yourself, as no one else does..haha!

In , jim wrote:



Frank Gilliland wrote:
In , jim wrote:

snip

better yet, who the hell is the u.s. gov to tell me what is legal or
not?


If you are a US citizen, they are granted that right by the constitution,
and by treaty.


please point out the constitutional section you mentioned.



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read the section you mentioned at the cornell website. it pertains to
the u.s. and its environs but no mention of people outside territorial
limits.
the world is a bigger place then what the u.s. dictates....


I shouldn't have to quote this twice:


If you are a US citizen......


And again with emphasis added:


=IF= you are a =US=CITIZEN=......


If you are still confused, call Twistedhed's imaginary shrink.






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Frank Gilliland wrote:
In , jim wrote:



Frank Gilliland wrote:

In , jim wrote:

snip

better yet, who the hell is the u.s. gov to tell me what is legal or
not?


If you are a US citizen, they are granted that right by the constitution,
and by treaty.


please point out the constitutional section you mentioned.



Article VI.







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read the section you mentioned at the cornell website. it pertains to
the u.s. and its environs but no mention of people outside territorial
limits.
the world is a bigger place then what the u.s. dictates....



I shouldn't have to quote this twice:



If you are a US citizen......



And again with emphasis added:



=IF= you are a =US=CITIZEN=......



If you are still confused, call Twistedhed's imaginary shrink.






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why are you so hung up on twisty?

In , jim wrote:


why are you so hung up on twisty?


I have explained why many times, but I can explain it again if you -really- want
to know.....







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From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In , jim wrote:
why are you so hung up on twisty?

I have explained why many times,

_
LOL..you explain how I come to be he center of your universe? Hmmm,,no,
you never did, as several here have inquired as to what your major
malfunction is that causes you to act like I am your daddy and you a
step-child that needs daily discipline. That you feel you somehow
conveyed a plausible example to the masses concerning your daily
blunders and worship of me, is chalked up to your comprehension skills
(rather, lack of) and level of maturity. Compete absence of
communicative skill coupled with the foul mouth you have become known
for, really shows me,,,LOL. Now, be a good apologist and hurry and
explain your personal obsession of Unca Twist to the masses. Some (like
those posting via Kornet.net HAHAHHA) may not realize how touched you
are and needto see for themselves
_
but I can explain it again if you -really- want to

know.....

_
Actually,, your hang up concerning me is a monkey on your back, not
anyone elses. Excuses of why you feel so strongly towards myself are not
necessary. One needs only gently reminded of your object of love and
obsession, and no explanations are needed as to the position you find
yourself . Gee, Frank, it' a shame you are unable to see yourself as
others do. Perhaps you can cut a hole in your carpet and claim you saw
the "floor show". Tally-Ho, good buttie!