Why are Roger Beeps Illegal on CB?
 

To All:
See above.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California

On 18 Jun 2004 11:28:47 -0700, (Bert Craig) wrote:

(Chuck Kopsho) wrote in message ...
To All:
See above.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California

They're not.

73 de Bert
WA2SI

What IS illegal, under Part 95, Subpart D, paragraph 95.413, section
(a), subparagraph (6) is "To transmit music, whistling, sound effects
or any material to amuse or entertain;" and subparagraph (7) "To
transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention."

It IS permissible, under paragraph 95.412, section (b) to "transmit a
tone signal only when the signal is used to make contact or to
continue communications. (Examples of circuits using these signals are
tone operated squelch and selective calling circuits.) If the signal
is an audible tone, it must last no longer than 15 seconds at one
time. If the signal is a subaudible tone, it may be transmitted
continuously only as long as you are talking."

The way SOME people use "Roger Beeps" they are clearly intended to
amuse, entertain, and/or irritate.

Raymond Sirois KAXN-9546
SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS
607-733-5745
telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000

KAXN-9546 wrote:
The way SOME people use "Roger Beeps" they are clearly intended to
amuse, entertain, and/or irritate.

They suck.

--
http://www.allpar.com/mopar.html

Hmmm...I aint been to Oceanside since the early 70's.


"Chuck Kopsho" wrote in message
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To All:
See above.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California

On 19 Jun 2004 03:44:33 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

KAXN-9546 wrote:
The way SOME people use "Roger Beeps" they are clearly intended to
amuse, entertain, and/or irritate.

They suck.


Amen to that.....

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Like the FRS as in 15 minutes [meant seconds], since I got this FRS radio I
am picking up a lot of business Communications & I took all the channels &
put them on my scanner & the scanner seems to act as a big base antenna & I
can hear more on the scanner then my walike talkie. I only head 1 person who
cussed like they did on the 11 metter band, but this radio seems to be ok
for what I want. Also if anyone on here is near Georgia Ave in Wheaton, MD &
has an 10-33 & I hear you I will come back. REACT may have kicked me out
[:-(], but I still handle emergency calls & this 1 business I know [next
door] of, I told them [voice + e-mail] if they need me [emergency or even
help them as a volunteer] just to call me on their channel. I told them that
I have them on my scanner but do not know what channel they are on, so just
to yell either 'PEE-WEE' or my name & I channel # & I will come on to help
them. These radios [maybe the different types or how new they get] have
different tones to them & some sound like what you hear on the scanner as
alert tones. But I like this little radio, it is so cool. My battery door is
broken, so I use masking tape + cardboard to keep it closed. Also the other
day I turned on my radio & got on the screen;

'88"

So what does this mean? I turn my radio off then on & it is ok for a while
then it keeps saying '88', thanks.

PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902 [10-10]

Thank God for radios & all these computers!

"PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902" wrote:
PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902 [10-10]

Thank God for radios & all these computers!

Keep the rubber side down, PEE-WEE.

10-4, sorry.
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902" wrote:
PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902 [10-10]

Thank God for radios & all these computers!

Keep the rubber side down, PEE-WEE.

Sorry? for what?

"PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902" wrote:
10-4, sorry.
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902" wrote:
PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902 [10-10]

Thank God for radios & all these computers!

Keep the rubber side down, PEE-WEE.

What you said about keeping the rubber side down.


"Steveo" wrote in message
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Sorry? for what?

"PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902" wrote:
10-4, sorry.
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902" wrote:
PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902 [10-10]

Thank God for radios & all these computers!

Keep the rubber side down, PEE-WEE.

Rock on.

"PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902" wrote:
What you said about keeping the rubber side down.

"Steveo" wrote in message
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Sorry? for what?

10-4!
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Rock on.

"PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902" wrote:
What you said about keeping the rubber side down.

"Steveo" wrote in message
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Sorry? for what?

10-9 = what top post?
"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote
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Steveo wrote in news:20040621204537.121
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Sorry? for what?

top posting suxs

PEE-WEE = KBKS-20902 wrote:

10-9 = what top post?
"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote
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Steveo wrote in news:20040621204537.121
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Sorry? for what?

top posting suxs


top posting is when you put your reply at the top of the msg instead of
below it like I am doing right here.

Top posting means that people have to scroll down to see what you are
replying to, and then back up to read your reply so it all makes sense.

Most usenet groups with a charter and FAQ are violently against top
posting, as are most of the experienced usenet users.

73 de Keith
--
KC8TCQ

Know thyself. If you need
help, call the C.I.A.

Any uncertified (this means power mics too!)device that causes more than 100
% AM modulation on TX is illegal on CB. You can have it but you can't
operate with it.
Roger beeps were not around when the rules were made.
They are not used to continue or maintain a QSO. Very primitive tone
encode/decode
sytems were tried by several manufacturers but nothing stuck.

Carl
The2x4
"Chuck Kopsho" wrote in message
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To All:
See above.

Cheers,
Chuck Kopsho
Oceanside, California

"The 2x4" wrote in message
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Any uncertified (this means power mics too!)device that causes more than
100
% AM modulation on TX is illegal on CB. You can have it but you can't
operate with it.
Roger beeps were not around when the rules were made.
They are not used to continue or maintain a QSO. Very primitive tone
encode/decode
sytems were tried by several manufacturers but nothing stuck.

Now, powder your ass and go away, putz.

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Any uncertified (this means power mics

too!)device that causes more than 100 % AM

modulation on TX is illegal on CB.




Are you saying power mics need certified to be legal or are you claiming
all power mics cause more than 100% modulation and are therefore,
illegal? Because,,,,you're wrong. Power mics are as legal as roger
beeps.




You can have it but you can't operate with it.



One can use all power mics and roger beeps they wish.


Roger beeps were not around when the rules

were made.


Irrelevant. Power mics are legal and so are roger beeps. If the feds
meant for these to be illegal, they would have adopted and updated the
rules, just as they do in other rule areas each and every year.


They are not used to continue or maintain a

QSO.



Sure they are, in many, many, many instances.
In fact, that is their primary use and for which they were designed.



Very primitive tone encode/decode

sytems were tried by several manufacturers

but nothing stuck.



By speaking of roger beeps, most people mean it to encompass roger
beeps, k beeps, and any other tone that signals the beginning or end of
transmission, and many of them "stuck",,,which is why the beeps are
still sold today on many radios and mics.


Carl

The2x4