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Data Flux August 13th 04 12:08 AM

Modern Equivalents of RCI-2950/70
 
About a decade ago, I owned one of the original RCI-2970 radios that
permitted TX/RX from 26.0 MHz to 32.0 MHz by moving J2 from P3-P4 to
P1-P2, along with a "CB channel mode" -- complete with channels "3A",
"7A", "11A", "15A", and 19A" -- by moving J1 from P1-P2 to P2-P3.

My understanding is that Ranger re-engineered its RCI-2950 and 2970
models several times, and that with each new version, modifications
became more difficult. (I.e., the second generation lacked the "CB
channel mode" and required shorting all of J2's pins to ground for
continuous 26-32 MHz coverage; and that the third generation needed
some kind of add-on module to obtain said coverage; and that alas,
the fourth generation, for US retail, was totally unmodifiable.)

Here's my question. Are there any 10 meter ham rigs around today
that can easily be modified for 26-ish to 32-ish MHz TX/RC coverage,
AND that feature all the RCI-2970's important bells and whistles,
such as:

- AM/FM TX PEP at least ~50-75 watts, SSB TX PEP at least ~100-150
- variable TX power knob (versus cheesy "high/medium/low" switches)
- AM/FM/LSB/USB modes on any frequency
- discrete tuning ability (i.e. 27.4150 MHz, 27.4151 MHz, etc.)
- roger beep (very useful for extreme DX on SSB)
- SWR display
- split frequency TX/RX
- direct frequency access for entire coverage range (i.e., I don't
want something that behaves like a "slider" modification where you
see one channel/frequency on the display but are actually somewhere
else according to an add-on switch; I'd like to simply be able to
tune to 27.4150 MHz, and actually be there)
- finally, I'd prefer a mobile rig versus a base

Anything like this still exist, under $500 new?

Thanks in advance, folks!

Dave Hall August 13th 04 04:06 PM

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:08:48 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam
wrote:

About a decade ago, I owned one of the original RCI-2970 radios that
permitted TX/RX from 26.0 MHz to 32.0 MHz by moving J2 from P3-P4 to
P1-P2, along with a "CB channel mode" -- complete with channels "3A",
"7A", "11A", "15A", and 19A" -- by moving J1 from P1-P2 to P2-P3.

My understanding is that Ranger re-engineered its RCI-2950 and 2970
models several times, and that with each new version, modifications
became more difficult. (I.e., the second generation lacked the "CB
channel mode" and required shorting all of J2's pins to ground for
continuous 26-32 MHz coverage; and that the third generation needed
some kind of add-on module to obtain said coverage; and that alas,
the fourth generation, for US retail, was totally unmodifiable.)

Here's my question. Are there any 10 meter ham rigs around today
that can easily be modified for 26-ish to 32-ish MHz TX/RC coverage,
AND that feature all the RCI-2970's important bells and whistles,
such as:

- AM/FM TX PEP at least ~50-75 watts, SSB TX PEP at least ~100-150
- variable TX power knob (versus cheesy "high/medium/low" switches)
- AM/FM/LSB/USB modes on any frequency
- discrete tuning ability (i.e. 27.4150 MHz, 27.4151 MHz, etc.)
- roger beep (very useful for extreme DX on SSB)
- SWR display
- split frequency TX/RX
- direct frequency access for entire coverage range (i.e., I don't
want something that behaves like a "slider" modification where you
see one channel/frequency on the display but are actually somewhere
else according to an add-on switch; I'd like to simply be able to
tune to 27.4150 MHz, and actually be there)
- finally, I'd prefer a mobile rig versus a base

Anything like this still exist, under $500 new?


If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
quick to want another one.

You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that $500,
and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj


Thanks in advance, folks!



Data Flux August 14th 04 01:47 AM

Dave Hall wrote on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:06:16 -0400:

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:08:48 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam
wrote:

About a decade ago, I owned one of the original RCI-2970 radios that
permitted TX/RX from 26.0 MHz to 32.0 MHz by moving J2 from P3-P4 to
P1-P2, along with a "CB channel mode" -- complete with channels "3A",
"7A", "11A", "15A", and 19A" -- by moving J1 from P1-P2 to P2-P3.

My understanding is that Ranger re-engineered its RCI-2950 and 2970
models several times, and that with each new version, modifications
became more difficult. (I.e., the second generation lacked the "CB
channel mode" and required shorting all of J2's pins to ground for
continuous 26-32 MHz coverage; and that the third generation needed
some kind of add-on module to obtain said coverage; and that alas,
the fourth generation, for US retail, was totally unmodifiable.)

Here's my question. Are there any 10 meter ham rigs around today
that can easily be modified for 26-ish to 32-ish MHz TX/RC coverage,
AND that feature all the RCI-2970's important bells and whistles,
such as:

- AM/FM TX PEP at least ~50-75 watts, SSB TX PEP at least ~100-150
- variable TX power knob (versus cheesy "high/medium/low" switches)
- AM/FM/LSB/USB modes on any frequency
- discrete tuning ability (i.e. 27.4150 MHz, 27.4151 MHz, etc.)
- roger beep (very useful for extreme DX on SSB)
- SWR display
- split frequency TX/RX
- direct frequency access for entire coverage range (i.e., I don't
want something that behaves like a "slider" modification where you
see one channel/frequency on the display but are actually somewhere
else according to an add-on switch; I'd like to simply be able to
tune to 27.4150 MHz, and actually be there)
- finally, I'd prefer a mobile rig versus a base

Anything like this still exist, under $500 new?


If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
quick to want another one.

You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that $500,
and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.


Isn't that what I just asked for? Another HF ham rig? The RCI-2970
was technically sold as a ham radio. I'm trying to find another 10
meter ham rig, with the aforementioned features, that can be modified
easily to cover at least 26.0-29.6999 TX/RX.

I Am Not George August 14th 04 04:53 AM

Data Flux" -spam wrote:
Dave Hall wrote on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:06:16

-0400:

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:08:48 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam
wrote:

About a decade ago, I owned one of the original RCI-2970 radios

that
permitted TX/RX from 26.0 MHz to 32.0 MHz by moving J2 from P3-P4

to
P1-P2, along with a "CB channel mode" -- complete with channels

"3A",
"7A", "11A", "15A", and 19A" -- by moving J1 from P1-P2 to P2-P3.

My understanding is that Ranger re-engineered its RCI-2950 and

2970
models several times, and that with each new version,

modifications
became more difficult. (I.e., the second generation lacked the

"CB
channel mode" and required shorting all of J2's pins to ground

for
continuous 26-32 MHz coverage; and that the third generation

needed
some kind of add-on module to obtain said coverage; and that

alas,
the fourth generation, for US retail, was totally unmodifiable.)

Here's my question. Are there any 10 meter ham rigs around today
that can easily be modified for 26-ish to 32-ish MHz TX/RC

coverage,
AND that feature all the RCI-2970's important bells and whistles,
such as:

- AM/FM TX PEP at least ~50-75 watts, SSB TX PEP at least

~100-150
- variable TX power knob (versus cheesy "high/medium/low"

switches)
- AM/FM/LSB/USB modes on any frequency
- discrete tuning ability (i.e. 27.4150 MHz, 27.4151 MHz, etc.)
- roger beep (very useful for extreme DX on SSB)
- SWR display
- split frequency TX/RX
- direct frequency access for entire coverage range (i.e., I

don't
want something that behaves like a "slider" modification where

you
see one channel/frequency on the display but are actually

somewhere
else according to an add-on switch; I'd like to simply be able to
tune to 27.4150 MHz, and actually be there)
- finally, I'd prefer a mobile rig versus a base

Anything like this still exist, under $500 new?


If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
quick to want another one.

You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that

$500,
and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.


Isn't that what I just asked for? Another HF ham rig? The RCI-2970
was technically sold as a ham radio. I'm trying to find another 10
meter ham rig, with the aforementioned features, that can be modified
easily to cover at least 26.0-29.6999 TX/RX.



go to ww.qrz.com or ehamnet.com and ask in the forums. explain what it
is you are trying to do I am sure they will help lol

Steveo August 14th 04 05:00 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote:
go to ww.qrz.com

Speaking of qrz'ed, we were successful in getting N8WWM
booted from there for actions detrimental to armature
radio. (excessive spam)

Steve August 15th 04 04:53 PM

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:47:23 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam wrote:

If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
quick to want another one.

You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that $500,
and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.


Isn't that what I just asked for? Another HF ham rig? The RCI-2970
was technically sold as a ham radio. I'm trying to find another 10
meter ham rig, with the aforementioned features, that can be modified
easily to cover at least 26.0-29.6999 TX/RX.


No, what you asked for is another out of band modifiable radio that is a
thinly disguised CB radio marketed to CBers as an "amateur" radio. You want
something like Copper sells, not the kinds of radios that AES, HRO, or any of
the other amateur radio dealers sell. The difference in quality is a dead give
away too. The RCI29XX radios have managed an uncomfortable crossover, but are
still considered extended range CB radios by any serious radio enthusiast.

As an aside, a lot of radios are labeled as "amateur" radios because
they are sold as (wink, wink) 10 meter radios. Hams wouldn't and don't buy these
radios, CBers do, and modify them (hell, most retailers sell an option to have
the radio modified for you by them) for extended operation. Most so called 10
meter radios are sold as AM/FM only when you'd be hard pressed to find a ham
today that would use AM. Where is the popular CW mode that no respectful amateur
radio would be without? That and these are "channeled" radios and not equipped
with VFO tuning. 10KHz stepping is just ludicrous when trying to use SSB. 10 KHz
steps severely limit the usefulness of the radio when you can not talk to
someone using a VFO. FM is such a spectrum hog, that it is only used in the
uppermost portion of the 10 meter band, and usually for repeater use. SSB,
specifically USB, is the mode of choice on 10 meters. And finally, you would be
hard pressed to find a ham dealer that sells these radios. You find them at
places like Copper that sell exclusively to CBers who are entrenched in their
inefficient, archaic AM mode, when clearly, SSB is a far superior mode that
delivers the most bang for the buck, and the greatest range.

Steve


Steve August 15th 04 04:56 PM

On 14 Aug 2004 04:00:55 GMT, Steveo wrote:

(I Am Not George) wrote:
go to ww.qrz.com

Speaking of qrz'ed, we were successful in getting N8WWM
booted from there for actions detrimental to armature
radio. (excessive spam)


He's still there. I just checked and found him without a prob.

Steve

Steveo August 15th 04 05:05 PM

Steve wrote:
On 14 Aug 2004 04:00:55 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

(I Am Not George) wrote:
go to ww.qrz.com

Speaking of qrz'ed, we were successful in getting N8WWM
booted from there for actions detrimental to armature
radio. (excessive spam)


He's still there. I just checked and found him without a prob.

Steve

I know..here's a picture of him and his felon hoe fekkin'.



N8WWM
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I Am Not George August 16th 04 12:03 AM

Steve wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:47:23 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam wrote:

If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
quick to want another one.

You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that $500,
and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.


Isn't that what I just asked for? Another HF ham rig? The RCI-2970
was technically sold as a ham radio. I'm trying to find another 10
meter ham rig, with the aforementioned features, that can be modified
easily to cover at least 26.0-29.6999 TX/RX.


No, what you asked for is another out of band modifiable radio that is a
thinly disguised CB radio marketed to CBers as an "amateur" radio. You want
something like Copper sells, not the kinds of radios that AES, HRO, or any of
the other amateur radio dealers sell. The difference in quality is a dead give
away too. The RCI29XX radios have managed an uncomfortable crossover, but are
still considered extended range CB radios by any serious radio enthusiast.

As an aside, a lot of radios are labeled as "amateur" radios because
they are sold as (wink, wink) 10 meter radios. Hams wouldn't and don't buy these
radios, CBers do, and modify them (hell, most retailers sell an option to have
the radio modified for you by them) for extended operation. Most so called 10
meter radios are sold as AM/FM only when you'd be hard pressed to find a ham
today that would use AM. Where is the popular CW mode that no respectful amateur
radio would be without? That and these are "channeled" radios and not equipped
with VFO tuning. 10KHz stepping is just ludicrous when trying to use SSB. 10 KHz
steps severely limit the usefulness of the radio when you can not talk to
someone using a VFO. FM is such a spectrum hog, that it is only used in the
uppermost portion of the 10 meter band, and usually for repeater use. SSB,
specifically USB, is the mode of choice on 10 meters. And finally, you would be
hard pressed to find a ham dealer that sells these radios. You find them at
places like Copper that sell exclusively to CBers who are entrenched in their
inefficient, archaic AM mode, when clearly, SSB is a far superior mode that
delivers the most bang for the buck, and the greatest range.

Steve


lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you gay
for telling the truth

Dr.X August 16th 04 02:30 AM

"I Am Not George" wrote in message
m...
Steve wrote in message

. ..
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:47:23 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam

wrote:
....

lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you gay
for telling the truth


Why would 'they' attack him for speaking the truth?

-Dr.X (wondering who 'they' are)



I Am Not George August 16th 04 03:02 AM

Dr.X wrote:
lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you gay
for telling the truth



Why would 'they' attack him for speaking the truth?

-Dr.X (wondering who 'they' are)



wait til Twisty comes back he will go on the rampage to defend cbers
using 10 meter radios

that is unless he got his nuts blown off by the huricaine

Steveo August 16th 04 03:04 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote:
Dr.X wrote:
lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you gay
for telling the truth



Why would 'they' attack him for speaking the truth?

-Dr.X (wondering who 'they' are)


wait til Twisty comes back he will go on the rampage to defend cbers
using 10 meter radios


I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.

that is unless he got his nuts blown off by the huricaine

You're an asshole.

--
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.

Dr.X August 16th 04 02:17 PM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20040815220429.269

....
I heard Tampa area missed the big one as it cut across land before
reaching tampa, punta gorda got the worst it seems.

What gets me are the assholes who stayed in their mobile homes
in Punta..now they're bitching about the weatherman said Tampa
was supposed to be ground zero. Helllloooo..get the **** out
of your mobile home when you have that much advance notice.

--
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.


heh-heh... I'll have to admit I made a very stupid decision to stay. When
they said it was cat 2 and heading north and to evacuate here in Pinellas
county, I stayed. I live in what they call "Zone A", the first to evac.,
lowest elevation. My reasoning was that I have never seen a hurricane head
in a straight path north. It will always curve off to the right once it has
a northerly direction. Also I feel that my building can withstand cat 2,
especially since it would curve off just south of us and we wouldn't take
the direct hit.

But after seeing what Charlie did, I think next time, I'm outta here.
Charlie didn't just curve off to the right, it turned then accelerated, then
strengthened all at once. It seemed to skip cat 3 and went right to 4.
That's a lot of erratic behavior all at once. I'm thinking, it was a very
short hop to get to Punta Gorda, and in that very short time it did all
that. I'm positive that if Charlie continued north in my direction, and did
all that strengthening in that long distance to get here, it would have been
a cat 5 and my gambling on the weather could have been the last bet I ever
made.

Yep. Next time, I'm seeking higher ground and better shelter. I'll be taking
pictures of the storm from over thata-way ----.

-Dr.X (getting a little OT ;-)



Steveo August 16th 04 02:25 PM

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
news:20040815220429.269

...
I heard Tampa area missed the big one as it cut across land before
reaching tampa, punta gorda got the worst it seems.

What gets me are the assholes who stayed in their mobile homes
in Punta..now they're bitching about the weatherman said Tampa
was supposed to be ground zero. Helllloooo..get the **** out
of your mobile home when you have that much advance notice.

--
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.


heh-heh... I'll have to admit I made a very stupid decision to stay. When
they said it was cat 2 and heading north and to evacuate here in Pinellas
county, I stayed. I live in what they call "Zone A", the first to evac.,
lowest elevation. My reasoning was that I have never seen a hurricane
head in a straight path north. It will always curve off to the right once
it has a northerly direction. Also I feel that my building can withstand
cat 2, especially since it would curve off just south of us and we
wouldn't take the direct hit.

But after seeing what Charlie did, I think next time, I'm outta here.
Charlie didn't just curve off to the right, it turned then accelerated,
then strengthened all at once. It seemed to skip cat 3 and went right to
4. That's a lot of erratic behavior all at once. I'm thinking, it was a
very short hop to get to Punta Gorda, and in that very short time it did
all that. I'm positive that if Charlie continued north in my direction,
and did all that strengthening in that long distance to get here, it
would have been a cat 5 and my gambling on the weather could have been
the last bet I ever made.

Yep. Next time, I'm seeking higher ground and better shelter. I'll be
taking pictures of the storm from over thata-way ----.

-Dr.X (getting a little OT ;-)

Well I'm glad you were ok, Dr.X. It seems to me that a mobile
home is one of the last places I'd want to be in those circumstances.
I've seen what a tornado does to them..shredded like they went thru
a wood chipper.

Hope Twist is ok.

--
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.

Dr.X August 16th 04 02:25 PM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
(I Am Not George) wrote:
Dr.X wrote:
lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you gay
for telling the truth


Why would 'they' attack him for speaking the truth?

-Dr.X (wondering who 'they' are)


wait til Twisty comes back he will go on the rampage to defend cbers
using 10 meter radios


I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.


I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

that is unless he got his nuts blown off by the huricaine

You're an asshole.

--
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.




Dr.X August 16th 04 02:27 PM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
news:20040815220429.269

...
I heard Tampa area missed the big one as it cut across land before
reaching tampa, punta gorda got the worst it seems.

What gets me are the assholes who stayed in their mobile homes
in Punta..now they're bitching about the weatherman said Tampa
was supposed to be ground zero. Helllloooo..get the **** out
of your mobile home when you have that much advance notice.

--
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.


heh-heh... I'll have to admit I made a very stupid decision to stay.

When
they said it was cat 2 and heading north and to evacuate here in

Pinellas
county, I stayed. I live in what they call "Zone A", the first to evac.,
lowest elevation. My reasoning was that I have never seen a hurricane
head in a straight path north. It will always curve off to the right

once
it has a northerly direction. Also I feel that my building can withstand
cat 2, especially since it would curve off just south of us and we
wouldn't take the direct hit.

But after seeing what Charlie did, I think next time, I'm outta here.
Charlie didn't just curve off to the right, it turned then accelerated,
then strengthened all at once. It seemed to skip cat 3 and went right to
4. That's a lot of erratic behavior all at once. I'm thinking, it was a
very short hop to get to Punta Gorda, and in that very short time it did
all that. I'm positive that if Charlie continued north in my direction,
and did all that strengthening in that long distance to get here, it
would have been a cat 5 and my gambling on the weather could have been
the last bet I ever made.

Yep. Next time, I'm seeking higher ground and better shelter. I'll be
taking pictures of the storm from over thata-way ----.

-Dr.X (getting a little OT ;-)

Well I'm glad you were ok, Dr.X. It seems to me that a mobile
home is one of the last places I'd want to be in those circumstances.
I've seen what a tornado does to them..shredded like they went thru
a wood chipper.

Hope Twist is ok.


Do you know what handle he uses, what freq? Maybe I can yell for him. I can
talk to Tampa anytime from St. Pete.

-Dr.X



Steveo August 16th 04 02:30 PM

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
(I Am Not George) wrote:
Dr.X wrote:
lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you
gay for telling the truth


Why would 'they' attack him for speaking the truth?

-Dr.X (wondering who 'they' are)

wait til Twisty comes back he will go on the rampage to defend cbers
using 10 meter radios


I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.


I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

Braggart! :)

--
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.

Dr.X August 16th 04 02:31 PM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
(I Am Not George) wrote:
Dr.X wrote:
lol be prepared steve they are going to attack you and call you
gay for telling the truth


Why would 'they' attack him for speaking the truth?

-Dr.X (wondering who 'they' are)

wait til Twisty comes back he will go on the rampage to defend cbers
using 10 meter radios


I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.


I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

Braggart! :)


I can't really brag until I get that chipswitch. Then I'll be all smiles :-)
:-) :-) :-)

-Dr.X



Steveo August 16th 04 02:35 PM

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
news:20040815220429.269
...
I heard Tampa area missed the big one as it cut across land
before reaching tampa, punta gorda got the worst it seems.

What gets me are the assholes who stayed in their mobile homes
in Punta..now they're bitching about the weatherman said Tampa
was supposed to be ground zero. Helllloooo..get the **** out
of your mobile home when you have that much advance notice.

--
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.

heh-heh... I'll have to admit I made a very stupid decision to stay.

When
they said it was cat 2 and heading north and to evacuate here in

Pinellas
county, I stayed. I live in what they call "Zone A", the first to
evac., lowest elevation. My reasoning was that I have never seen a
hurricane head in a straight path north. It will always curve off to
the right

once
it has a northerly direction. Also I feel that my building can
withstand cat 2, especially since it would curve off just south of us
and we wouldn't take the direct hit.

But after seeing what Charlie did, I think next time, I'm outta here.
Charlie didn't just curve off to the right, it turned then
accelerated, then strengthened all at once. It seemed to skip cat 3
and went right to 4. That's a lot of erratic behavior all at once.
I'm thinking, it was a very short hop to get to Punta Gorda, and in
that very short time it did all that. I'm positive that if Charlie
continued north in my direction, and did all that strengthening in
that long distance to get here, it would have been a cat 5 and my
gambling on the weather could have been the last bet I ever made.

Yep. Next time, I'm seeking higher ground and better shelter. I'll be
taking pictures of the storm from over thata-way ----.

-Dr.X (getting a little OT ;-)

Well I'm glad you were ok, Dr.X. It seems to me that a mobile
home is one of the last places I'd want to be in those circumstances.
I've seen what a tornado does to them..shredded like they went thru
a wood chipper.

Hope Twist is ok.


Do you know what handle he uses, what freq? Maybe I can yell for him. I
can talk to Tampa anytime from St. Pete.

-Dr.X

Start yelling Twistedhed on the bowl!! (j/k)

You might try 27.385 lsb..might be good for a laugh. :P

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Steveo August 16th 04 02:50 PM

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
Do you know what handle he uses, what freq? Maybe I can yell for him.
I can talk to Tampa anytime from St. Pete.

-Dr.X

Start yelling Twistedhed on the bowl!! (j/k)

You might try 27.385 lsb..might be good for a laugh. :P


I'll give it a shot. I'm heading out to work right now. I'll do it on my
way. and during lunch too.

BTW, I see in another thread that you live in Medina. When I was a kid
living in Cleveland, my parents had some close freinds living there. Ever
heard of Andy's Gun Shop? His wife was Hungarian. She made the very best
stroodle. :-P
And their daughters were knockouts. :-D

-Dr.X

Yes I'm in Medina, Andy's doesn't ring any bells..What part of
Cleveland were you from?

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Dave Hall August 16th 04 03:39 PM

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:47:23 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:06:16 -0400:

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:08:48 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam
wrote:

About a decade ago, I owned one of the original RCI-2970 radios that
permitted TX/RX from 26.0 MHz to 32.0 MHz by moving J2 from P3-P4 to
P1-P2, along with a "CB channel mode" -- complete with channels "3A",
"7A", "11A", "15A", and 19A" -- by moving J1 from P1-P2 to P2-P3.

My understanding is that Ranger re-engineered its RCI-2950 and 2970
models several times, and that with each new version, modifications
became more difficult. (I.e., the second generation lacked the "CB
channel mode" and required shorting all of J2's pins to ground for
continuous 26-32 MHz coverage; and that the third generation needed
some kind of add-on module to obtain said coverage; and that alas,
the fourth generation, for US retail, was totally unmodifiable.)

Here's my question. Are there any 10 meter ham rigs around today
that can easily be modified for 26-ish to 32-ish MHz TX/RC coverage,
AND that feature all the RCI-2970's important bells and whistles,
such as:

- AM/FM TX PEP at least ~50-75 watts, SSB TX PEP at least ~100-150
- variable TX power knob (versus cheesy "high/medium/low" switches)
- AM/FM/LSB/USB modes on any frequency
- discrete tuning ability (i.e. 27.4150 MHz, 27.4151 MHz, etc.)
- roger beep (very useful for extreme DX on SSB)
- SWR display
- split frequency TX/RX
- direct frequency access for entire coverage range (i.e., I don't
want something that behaves like a "slider" modification where you
see one channel/frequency on the display but are actually somewhere
else according to an add-on switch; I'd like to simply be able to
tune to 27.4150 MHz, and actually be there)
- finally, I'd prefer a mobile rig versus a base

Anything like this still exist, under $500 new?


If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
quick to want another one.

You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that $500,
and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.


Isn't that what I just asked for? Another HF ham rig? The RCI-2970
was technically sold as a ham radio. I'm trying to find another 10
meter ham rig, with the aforementioned features, that can be modified
easily to cover at least 26.0-29.6999 TX/RX.


The RCI-2970 may have been marketed as a 10 meter rig, but its design
is little more than a "souped up" CB rig. The 2970 especially, was of
such a poor design that there were numerous reliability issues as well
as transmitter spurious emission problems. If you want to live in
harmony with your neighbors, that is not the rig you want.

When I refer to a "ham" rig, I'm talking about a REAL ham rig, such as
an Icom, Yaesu or Kenwood, or other such full coverage H.F rigs. Rigs
like this are much better designed, and will meet technical emissions
specs.

Used Icom 735's can be had for $400. Yaesu FT-757's can be had for
$400. Kenwood TS-440's can also be had for around the $400 range. All
of them will blow the socks off of the so-called 10 meter only radios.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

Dr.X August 16th 04 03:42 PM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message

....
BTW, I see in another thread that you live in Medina. When I was a kid
living in Cleveland, my parents had some close freinds living there.

Ever
heard of Andy's Gun Shop? His wife was Hungarian. She made the very best
stroodle. :-P
And their daughters were knockouts. :-D

-Dr.X

Yes I'm in Medina, Andy's doesn't ring any bells..What part of
Cleveland were you from?


I was raised on the near east side between Superior and St. Clair on E.61
st. Then when I moved out of my parents house, I moved to the west side
around Lorain Ave.

-Dr.X (missin' Cleve.)



Steveo August 16th 04 06:18 PM

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message

...
BTW, I see in another thread that you live in Medina. When I was a
kid living in Cleveland, my parents had some close freinds living
there.

Ever
heard of Andy's Gun Shop? His wife was Hungarian. She made the very
best stroodle. :-P
And their daughters were knockouts. :-D

-Dr.X

Yes I'm in Medina, Andy's doesn't ring any bells..What part of
Cleveland were you from?


I was raised on the near east side between Superior and St. Clair on E.61
st. Then when I moved out of my parents house, I moved to the west side
around Lorain Ave.

-Dr.X (missin' Cleve.)

Hrm, no kidding..I went to Wilber Wright jr high in the early 70's,
that's right off Lorain and W 115 or so..small world.

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Steve August 16th 04 06:38 PM

On 16 Aug 2004 13:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote:

I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.


I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

Braggart! :)


I'm using an Icom IC-706MKII and a 102" steel whip in my car. It works
great. It's a bit of an overkill, but it does everything I want, and it's built
like a ....... Beats the crap out of everything else I've owned. I'm not
bragging - really. I just got tired of the problems and limitations of my
previous converted radios and got serious. There are lots of them available used
and cheap. I've seen them as low as $300 used and for less than $800 new. You
have to exercise restraint though. Transmit on the ham bands any they will come
looking for you. Fake calls signs don't work as 99% (well, it's most likely
less, but you get the idea) of the hams check online to see if it's legit. It's
not the FCC you have to worry about most of the time. Stay off the ham bands and
they pretty much leave you alone.

Steve

Steveo August 16th 04 06:45 PM

Steve wrote:
On 16 Aug 2004 13:30:18 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.

I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

Braggart! :)


I'm using an Icom IC-706MKII and a 102" steel whip in my car. It
works great. It's a bit of an overkill, but it does everything I want,
and it's built like a ....... Beats the crap out of everything else I've
owned. I'm not bragging - really. I just got tired of the problems and
limitations of my previous converted radios and got serious. There are
lots of them available used and cheap. I've seen them as low as $300 used
and for less than $800 new. You have to exercise restraint though.
Transmit on the ham bands any they will come looking for you. Fake calls
signs don't work as 99% (well, it's most likely less, but you get the
idea) of the hams check online to see if it's legit. It's not the FCC you
have to worry about most of the time. Stay off the ham bands and they
pretty much leave you alone.

Steve

A real good point, Steve. Stay the hell out of the 10 meter band. I
use an old S-Line Collins in the house, SSB only..sweet audio.

I have a 102" whip also, but I hate the tree pruning it does so
I put a Wilson 1000 right in the middle of the roof of my truck.

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Dr.X August 17th 04 12:29 AM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
....
Hrm, no kidding..I went to Wilber Wright jr high in the early 70's,
that's right off Lorain and W 115 or so..small world.


Hmm, I don't remember that school. Perhaps it's no longer there. I went to
high school in the 80's (I'm only 37). Graduated from St. Joes on E185 &
Lakeshore in '85.

-Dr.X



Twistedhed August 17th 04 04:19 AM

Well I'm glad you were ok, Dr.X. It seems to me that a mobile home is
one of the last places I'd want to be in those circumstances. I've seen
what a tornado does to them..shredded like they went thru a wood
chipper.
Hope Twist is ok.
--
Hello Mopar! As Dr. X said, we dodged one hell of a bullet. Crazy thing,
many folks evacuated and went to Orlando and got spanked. Ditto for
those who went south. As for me, I did what I always do on the
weekends,,,I went fishing and had some wet fun, man did it rain and rain
and rain. When they had the eye of the hurricane projected to come
straight into the actual mouth of Tampa Bay (the BAY itself, the actual
body of water), I would have been the first in the country to greet in
when it came ashore, as it would have been at my front door before
anyone elses. An expected 16 to 24 foot surge and I may have been
looking to buy a mobile home after the storm, as my block home would
have been carried off on the crest of a wave.
When they said class IV, I thought this was it.
That last little shift and bobble to the east saved hundreds, if not
thousands of lives. The Tampa Bay area is now the most populated
metropolis in Florida, surpassing the Miami-Metro Dade area. We were
just about to toss the emergency bags and supplies into the truck after
hearing it was a Class IV, when Charlie took a stumble and fall to the
east. Thanks for the good thoughts.



Twistedhed August 17th 04 04:29 AM

From: Dr.X@null (Dr.X)
"Steveo" wrote in message
...


heh-heh... I'll have to admit I made a very


stupid decision to stay. When they said it was


cat 2 and heading north and to evacuate here


in Pinellas county, I stayed. I live in what they


call "Zone A", the first to evac., lowest


elevation.





You're down there in Kool Aid's area. I'm down with some of the
southside radios, but in north Pinellas.



My reasoning was that I have never seen a


hurricane head in a straight path north.




Elena did in '85 after doing some loops


It will


always curve off to the right once it has a


northerly direction.




Most of them seem to gravitate toward Texas or other panhandle states.


Also I feel that my building


can withstand cat 2, especially since it would


curve off just south of us and we wouldn't take
the direct hit.


But after seeing what Charlie did, I think next


time, I'm outta here. Charlie didn't just curve


off to the right, it turned then accelerated, then
strengthened all at once. It seemed to skip cat
3 and went right to


4. That's a lot of erratic behavior all at once.


I'm thinking, it was a very short hop to get to


Punta Gorda, and in that very short time it did


all that. I'm positive that if Charlie continued


north in my direction, and did all that


strengthening in that long distance to get here,
it would have been a cat 5 and my gambling


on the weather could have been the last bet I


ever made.




A category 3 from a direct hit is equal to one hundred atomic bombs. I
believe is the announcement was made another country was dropping 100 A
bombs on our city, it would be a ghost town and everyone would have been
clawing over each other to evacuate. Ahh, the undermining of mutha'
nature's power..



Yep. Next time, I'm seeking higher ground and
better shelter. I'll be taking pictures of the


storm from over thata-way ----.


-Dr.X (getting a little OT ;-)





You and me both. You can caravan with us as we head to South Beach for
the next one.


-
(Well I'm glad you were ok, Dr.X. It seems to me that a mobile home is
one of the last places I'd want to be in those circumstances. I've seen
what a tornado does to them..shredded like they went thru a wood
chipper.
Hope Twist is ok.)


Do you know what handle he uses, what freq?
Maybe I can yell for him. I can talk to Tampa


anytime from St. Pete.


-Dr.X



I'm in North Pinellas. What's your home frequency? Send me an email and
tell me if you don't want to display it on the group.


Steveo August 17th 04 12:33 PM

(Twistedhed) wrote:
Well I'm glad you were ok, Dr.X. It seems to me that a mobile home is
one of the last places I'd want to be in those circumstances. I've seen
what a tornado does to them..shredded like they went thru a wood
chipper.
Hope Twist is ok.

Hello Mopar! As Dr. X said, we dodged one hell of a bullet.

snip
Thanks for the good thoughts.

Hey that's great news Twist! You were lucky to say the least!

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Dave Hall August 17th 04 03:28 PM

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:38:30 GMT, Steve wrote:

On 16 Aug 2004 13:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote:

I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.

I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

Braggart! :)


I'm using an Icom IC-706MKII and a 102" steel whip in my car. It works
great. It's a bit of an overkill, but it does everything I want, and it's built
like a ....... Beats the crap out of everything else I've owned. I'm not
bragging - really. I just got tired of the problems and limitations of my
previous converted radios and got serious.


I also run an ICOM 706 (the older MK1) in the mobile. I'm not
especially happy with the performance though. For one thing the
squelch is not a true FM noise gate type of squelch, and it pops open
on the slightest static or hash noise on FM. The other major sore spot
is the noise blanker. For some reason the fine folks at Icom cannot
make a noise blanker which works effectively on all modes. On SSB it
works so-so. On AM and FM it does absolutely nothing. I'd hate to have
to use this rig on CB, as the noise and hash are far worse than on my
old Uniden radio.

I also have a 706 on the base. Without the noise issues of a mobile,
it's a far better performing radio.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

Dr.X August 17th 04 06:05 PM

"Steve" wrote in message
...
On 16 Aug 2004 13:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote:

I use an HR2510 on CB in my truck, big deal.

I use an HR2600 on CB in my truck. I love it!

Braggart! :)


I'm using an Icom IC-706MKII and a 102" steel whip in my car. It works
great. It's a bit of an overkill, but it does everything I want, and it's

built
like a ....... Beats the crap out of everything else I've owned. I'm not
bragging - really. I just got tired of the problems and limitations of my
previous converted radios and got serious. There are lots of them

available used
and cheap. I've seen them as low as $300 used and for less than $800 new.

You
have to exercise restraint though. Transmit on the ham bands any they will

come
looking for you. Fake calls signs don't work as 99% (well, it's most

likely
less, but you get the idea) of the hams check online to see if it's legit.

It's
not the FCC you have to worry about most of the time. Stay off the ham

bands and
they pretty much leave you alone.

Steve


Braggart! :)

-Dr.X



Dr.X August 17th 04 06:21 PM

"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
From: Dr.X@null (Dr.X)


heh-heh... I'll have to admit I made a very
stupid decision to stay. When they said it was
cat 2 and heading north and to evacuate here
in Pinellas county, I stayed. I live in what they
call "Zone A", the first to evac., lowest
elevation.





You're down there in Kool Aid's area. I'm down with some of the
southside radios, but in north Pinellas.


I'm in South Pinellas but north side of St. Pete around the Gandy.

Yep. Next time, I'm seeking higher ground and
better shelter. I'll be taking pictures of the
storm from over thata-way ----.

....
You and me both. You can caravan with us as we head to South Beach for
the next one.


um... a great big convoy? lol

I'm in North Pinellas. What's your home frequency? Send me an email and
tell me if you don't want to display it on the group.


Since I've only just begun getting back into radio (after 10 years not
playin' around with it), I don't really have a home freq. I usually leave my
radio on 29am when I'm driving and my friends know to switch there to give
me a shout. This lets me listen to the stereo too. But I also flip the vfo
up a few kc's and ssb to listen when the skip rolls in. Also listen to the
clowns on 35am. I only get to play in the vehicle since I live in an
apartment. No base antenna. :-(

I'll send you an email with my on air id. (sent)

-Dr.X



Twistedhed August 18th 04 01:09 AM

From: Dr.X@null (Dr.X)
"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
From: Dr.X@null (Dr.X)
heh-heh... I'll have to admit I made a very


stupid decision to stay. When they said it was


cat 2 and heading north and to evacuate here


in Pinellas county, I stayed. I live in what they


call "Zone A", the first to evac., lowest


elevation.



You're down there in Kool Aid's area. I'm down with some of the
southside radios, but in north Pinellas.


I'm in South Pinellas but north side of St. Pete


around the Gandy.


Yep. Next time, I'm seeking higher ground and
better shelter. I'll be taking pictures of the


storm from over thata-way ----.

...

You and me both. You can caravan with us as we head to South Beach for
the next one.


um... a great big convoy? lol




Why not? We can have a mini-road trip, keep in touch with radios, get
some good grub at a roadside mom and pop joint somewhere in the
sticks,,,like YeeHaw Junction, but then that would be the long way to S.
Beach.


_
I'm in North Pinellas. What's your home frequency? Send me an email and
tell me if you don't want to display it on the group.


Since I've only just begun getting back into


radio (after 10 years not playin' around with it),
I don't really have a home freq. I usually leave


my radio on 29am when I'm driving and my


friends know to switch there to give me a


shout. This lets me listen to the stereo too. But
I also flip the vfo up a few kc's and ssb to


listen when the skip rolls in.




Welcome back to radio. The frequencies you mentioned in your email I
also occasionally check out.


Also listen to the clowns on 35am.



Addressed in email.


I only get to


play in the vehicle since I live in an apartment.
No base antenna. :-(



How bad ya' wanna talk g? You can always figure something out to get
ya' on the air from an apartment,,,,,maybe a dipole or a temporary
setup, from a mag mount on something to a noground marine mount or maybe
something completely temporary,,,like an antron painted a dark color and
unfurled only at night off the balcony right against the building g .



I'll send you an email with my on air id. (sent)


-Dr.X



Not sure where your favorite dx spot is down there, but I'm sure you
know of the prime spots by now. Gandy Beach (The Redneck Riviera) is
pretty good.


Jim Hampton August 18th 04 03:19 AM

(Twistedhed) wrote in message ...
Well I'm glad you were ok, Dr.X. It seems to me that a mobile home is
one of the last places I'd want to be in those circumstances. I've seen
what a tornado does to them..shredded like they went thru a wood
chipper.
Hope Twist is ok.
--
Hello Mopar! As Dr. X said, we dodged one hell of a bullet. Crazy thing,
many folks evacuated and went to Orlando and got spanked. Ditto for
those who went south. As for me, I did what I always do on the
weekends,,,I went fishing and had some wet fun, man did it rain and rain
and rain. When they had the eye of the hurricane projected to come
straight into the actual mouth of Tampa Bay (the BAY itself, the actual
body of water), I would have been the first in the country to greet in
when it came ashore, as it would have been at my front door before
anyone elses. An expected 16 to 24 foot surge and I may have been
looking to buy a mobile home after the storm, as my block home would
have been carried off on the crest of a wave.
When they said class IV, I thought this was it.
That last little shift and bobble to the east saved hundreds, if not
thousands of lives. The Tampa Bay area is now the most populated
metropolis in Florida, surpassing the Miami-Metro Dade area. We were
just about to toss the emergency bags and supplies into the truck after
hearing it was a Class IV, when Charlie took a stumble and fall to the
east. Thanks for the good thoughts.



Hello, Twist

My parents live in Sun City Center. They were very happy that the
hurricane struck a different area too. Had a death in the family and
ran into some folks I haven't seen (or heard from either) in 10 years.
Turns out they live in Sun City Center too - but took one of the last
flights out of Tampa to come up for the funeral. They were worried as
to what they would return to, but, of course, had a pleasant surprise.
Of course, many other folks who thought they weren't going to get hit
*did* - and big time too. A few years back we got hit with winds
clocked at 78 MPH and it did tear down some trees - and 78 MPH is a
lot less than the winds that hurricane packed.

Glad you're ok.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Steve August 18th 04 09:27 AM

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:28:49 -0400, Dave Hall wrote:

I also run an ICOM 706 (the older MK1) in the mobile. I'm not
especially happy with the performance though. For one thing the
squelch is not a true FM noise gate type of squelch, and it pops open
on the slightest static or hash noise on FM. The other major sore spot
is the noise blanker. For some reason the fine folks at Icom cannot
make a noise blanker which works effectively on all modes. On SSB it
works so-so. On AM and FM it does absolutely nothing. I'd hate to have
to use this rig on CB, as the noise and hash are far worse than on my
old Uniden radio.

I also have a 706 on the base. Without the noise issues of a mobile,
it's a far better performing radio.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj


They might have fixed those problems with the newer generations - MKII
and MKIIg because I don't have any complaints about mine. Funny about the noise
blanker, I notice a big difference with it on mine. The squelch is a little
funny and hard to get used to with it being the RF gain control in some modes,
and squelch in others. That is weird.

Do you have any filters in it? I have SSB and CW filters installed and
the SSB filter works wonders and combined with the IF shift, you can do some
amazing things with it. I've been able to isolate one person out of a virtual
zoo fest at times using the combination of the two. Yup, I'm really happy with
mine. I know that Icom made a lot of changes to the 706MKII that resolved a lot
of issues with the first one. And the price has plummeted too. I paid over $1300
for mine brand new, and now you can get the MKIIg with a DSP and 440MHz for less
than $800 without the filters or speech module. That's one hell of a price drop.
I've been kicking myself in the ass a long time over that!

Steve

Dave Hall August 18th 04 03:24 PM

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:27:50 GMT, Steve wrote:

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:28:49 -0400, Dave Hall wrote:

I also run an ICOM 706 (the older MK1) in the mobile. I'm not
especially happy with the performance though. For one thing the
squelch is not a true FM noise gate type of squelch, and it pops open
on the slightest static or hash noise on FM. The other major sore spot
is the noise blanker. For some reason the fine folks at Icom cannot
make a noise blanker which works effectively on all modes. On SSB it
works so-so. On AM and FM it does absolutely nothing. I'd hate to have
to use this rig on CB, as the noise and hash are far worse than on my
old Uniden radio.

I also have a 706 on the base. Without the noise issues of a mobile,
it's a far better performing radio.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj


They might have fixed those problems with the newer generations - MKII
and MKIIg because I don't have any complaints about mine. Funny about the noise
blanker, I notice a big difference with it on mine. The squelch is a little
funny and hard to get used to with it being the RF gain control in some modes,
and squelch in others. That is weird.


It's just an effect of trying to "multi-task" many functions in a
small radio.


Do you have any filters in it?


Just the standard ones in the mobile. The base unit has the 1.9 Khz
narrow SSB filter.

I have SSB and CW filters installed and
the SSB filter works wonders and combined with the IF shift, you can do some
amazing things with it.


But these are only effective on SSB. SSB performance on my rig is
acceptable. It's AM and FM which fall far short. Not that I use AM all
that much in the mobile, but other people might be considering one of
these radios to use on CB and it's probably not the best choice if you
use AM primarily.



I've been able to isolate one person out of a virtual
zoo fest at times using the combination of the two. Yup, I'm really happy with
mine. I know that Icom made a lot of changes to the 706MKII that resolved a lot
of issues with the first one. And the price has plummeted too. I paid over $1300
for mine brand new, and now you can get the MKIIg with a DSP and 440MHz for less
than $800 without the filters or speech module. That's one hell of a price drop.
I've been kicking myself in the ass a long time over that!


Yep. The prices of the MK-1's came way down too. $400 buys a lot of
radio in this package.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

Twistedhed August 18th 04 03:47 PM

From: (Jim=A0Hampton)
(Twistedhed) wrote in message
...
Well I'm glad you were ok, Dr.X. It seems to me that a mobile home is
one of the last places I'd want to be in those circumstances. I've seen
what a tornado does to them..shredded like they went thru a wood
chipper.
Hope Twist is ok.
--
Hello Mopar! As Dr. X said, we dodged one hell of a bullet. Crazy thing,
many folks evacuated and went to Orlando and got spanked. Ditto for
those who went south. As for me, I did what I always do on the
weekends,,,I went fishing and had some wet fun, man did it rain and rain
and rain. When they had the eye of the hurricane projected to come
straight into the actual mouth of Tampa Bay (the BAY itself, the actual
body of water), I would have been the first in the country to greet in
when it came ashore, as it would have been at my front door before
anyone elses. An expected 16 to 24 foot surge and I may have been
looking to buy a mobile home after the storm, as my block home would
have been carried off on the crest of a wave. When they said class IV, I
thought this was it. That last little shift and bobble to the east saved
hundreds, if not thousands of lives. The Tampa Bay area is now the most
populated metropolis in Florida, surpassing the Miami-Metro Dade area.
We were just about to toss the emergency bags and supplies into the
truck after hearing it was a Class IV, when Charlie took a stumble and
fall to the east. Thanks for the good thoughts.
_

Hello, Twist
My parents live in Sun City Center. They were very happy that the
hurricane struck a different area too. Had a death in the family and ran
into some folks I haven't seen (or heard from either) in 10 years.
=A0=A0Turns out they live in Sun City Center too - but took one of the
last flights out of Tampa to come up for the funeral. They were worried
as to what they would return to, but, of course, had a pleasant
surprise.
=A0=A0Of course, many other folks who thought they weren't going to get
hit *did* - and big time too. A few years back we got hit with winds
clocked at 78 MPH and it did tear down some trees - and 78 MPH is a lot
less than the winds that hurricane packed.
Glad you're ok.
73 from Rochester, NY
Jim
_
Hi Jim! My condolences.
Yea, that's right, I forgot your parents live in the Sun City
hub....now,,when are you coming down to visit them again? Glad they were
ok, Jim. I know they were getting some heavier weather than us, as they
were receiving the outer band weather,,,all we got was some clouds and
breeze. The next day and day after was when we got the rains. I killed a
pygmy rattler in my living room and two more in the yard a day after the
heavy rains. Cooter Mae was acting really strange the day after the
rains and kept barking at the sofa. I thought she may have lost a toy or
something under it and when I moved it to see what she was barking
at.... imagine my surprise when I saw the 12 inch little viper. I
usually don't kill snakes, as I prefer them in my yard as opposed to
their favorite food (citrus rats, mice, etc.) but the boot heel came
down on this little fella. I pulled his fangs with pliers and stuck them
in a little plastic jar and put it on the mantle below the mounted
jackalope and 1978 grandaddy hog head. Thanks for the good thoughts.
After seeing what Charlie did to our friends to the south, I'm with Dr.
X. Color me gone when that next one draws a bead on Tampa Bay.


Chris September 3rd 04 05:36 AM

I'm sorry but I like my 2950. It may not have as pure of an output as some
other radios, but I guaratee it's better than any CB. BTW, the 2950 has 100
Hz steps and an analog clarifier. There's no reason you can't talk to
someone with a VFO. It also has CW. I paid just over $200 for mine brand
new, not $500. I guess my biggest question is if you hate CB radios so much,
what are you doing here?

Chris
"Steve" wrote in message
...
| On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 00:47:23 GMT, "Data Flux" -spam wrote:
|
| If you looked at the spectral output of a 2970, you wouldn't be so
| quick to want another one.
|
| You are MUCH better off looking for a used HF ham rig for that $500,
| and you'll be far happier, than using a hacked up CB design.
|
| Isn't that what I just asked for? Another HF ham rig? The RCI-2970
| was technically sold as a ham radio. I'm trying to find another 10
| meter ham rig, with the aforementioned features, that can be modified
| easily to cover at least 26.0-29.6999 TX/RX.
|
| No, what you asked for is another out of band modifiable radio that is a
| thinly disguised CB radio marketed to CBers as an "amateur" radio. You
want
| something like Copper sells, not the kinds of radios that AES, HRO, or any
of
| the other amateur radio dealers sell. The difference in quality is a dead
give
| away too. The RCI29XX radios have managed an uncomfortable crossover, but
are
| still considered extended range CB radios by any serious radio enthusiast.
|
| As an aside, a lot of radios are labeled as "amateur" radios because
| they are sold as (wink, wink) 10 meter radios. Hams wouldn't and don't buy
these
| radios, CBers do, and modify them (hell, most retailers sell an option to
have
| the radio modified for you by them) for extended operation. Most so called
10
| meter radios are sold as AM/FM only when you'd be hard pressed to find a
ham
| today that would use AM. Where is the popular CW mode that no respectful
amateur
| radio would be without? That and these are "channeled" radios and not
equipped
| with VFO tuning. 10KHz stepping is just ludicrous when trying to use SSB.
10 KHz
| steps severely limit the usefulness of the radio when you can not talk to
| someone using a VFO. FM is such a spectrum hog, that it is only used in
the
| uppermost portion of the 10 meter band, and usually for repeater use. SSB,
| specifically USB, is the mode of choice on 10 meters. And finally, you
would be
| hard pressed to find a ham dealer that sells these radios. You find them
at
| places like Copper that sell exclusively to CBers who are entrenched in
their
| inefficient, archaic AM mode, when clearly, SSB is a far superior mode
that
| delivers the most bang for the buck, and the greatest range.
|
| Steve
|




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