Hey Leland..
 

Do or can you write and design software programs?

"Twistedhed" wrote in message
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Do or can you write and design software programs?

I did for class projects when I was working on my computer science degree.
The biggest program was an integrated DOS utility for reading disk
parameters, viewing the raw sector data, showing what disk clusters were
used by any file on the disk, and finally a disk defragmentation function.
The program featured pop-up overlapping menus, hot keys, and mouse control.
It was written in C++ and took me about 2-1/2 months to write working on it
around 15 to 20 hours per week, design - test - debugging. And after all
that it was specifically written for a 720K floppy disk so the professor
could test it without killing his hard drive in case of bugs. All that was
for a project for a class I took in operating systems. I think mine was the
only one that worked and also handled subdirectories too. Even the 20+
something year old class computer geek wiz, and the professor's pet student
no less, couldn't do it. I got the "look" from him in the hallway one day at
the start of the next semester.

I haven't really gotten in to doing Windows programming, it's event driven
verses procedural coded. That's a totally different animal. Windows
programming is a real pain, and complex if you really want to take full
advantage of the system. For simple programs that don't need a lot of fancy
wiz-bang features Visual Basic is a good choice to use. The other choices
are Visual C++, C#, or Java. The last three are object orientated languages.
That could be a big chuck to bite off and learn for somebody who hasn't done
any programming at all.

I've also done some Intel assembly language programming - 8080 and X86, and
VAX-11 assembly too. Assembly language programming is to computers like
Morse Code is to Ham Radio. Now that I think about it the first computer I
had was a Radio Shack TRS-80 with16K of memory. The first assembly language
program I wrote, in Z80 assembly, was to translate text on the screen into
Morse Code by keying the relay contact used to control the record/play-back
function of the cassette recorder used for program storage.
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Leland C. Scott wrote:
"Twistedhed" wrote in message
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Do or can you write and design software programs?


I did for class projects when I was working on my computer science degree.
The biggest program was an integrated DOS utility for reading disk
parameters, viewing the raw sector data, showing what disk clusters were
used by any file on the disk, and finally a disk defragmentation function.
The program featured pop-up overlapping menus, hot keys, and mouse control.
It was written in C++ and took me about 2-1/2 months to write working on it
around 15 to 20 hours per week, design - test - debugging. And after all
that it was specifically written for a 720K floppy disk so the professor
could test it without killing his hard drive in case of bugs. All that was
for a project for a class I took in operating systems. I think mine was the
only one that worked and also handled subdirectories too. Even the 20+
something year old class computer geek wiz, and the professor's pet student
no less, couldn't do it. I got the "look" from him in the hallway one day at
the start of the next semester.

I haven't really gotten in to doing Windows programming, it's event driven
verses procedural coded. That's a totally different animal. Windows
programming is a real pain, and complex if you really want to take full
advantage of the system. For simple programs that don't need a lot of fancy
wiz-bang features Visual Basic is a good choice to use. The other choices
are Visual C++, C#, or Java. The last three are object orientated languages.
That could be a big chuck to bite off and learn for somebody who hasn't done
any programming at all.

I've also done some Intel assembly language programming - 8080 and X86, and
VAX-11 assembly too. Assembly language programming is to computers like
Morse Code is to Ham Radio. Now that I think about it the first computer I
had was a Radio Shack TRS-80 with16K of memory. The first assembly language
program I wrote, in Z80 assembly, was to translate text on the screen into
Morse Code by keying the relay contact used to control the record/play-back
function of the cassette recorder used for program storage.
jeez leland you are showing your age :) i fixed the hardware problems
associated with the 8080 processor on several military related programs.
hell we used uv ovens to clear the memories of chips.
the simulators the air force used drum drive technology and if the sims
were having a problem we took out an alan key and physically moved the
read/write heads until it worked. the damn drum drives were used in
grumman a6 aircraft also. hehehe looking back its a wonder that stuff
actually worked.

In article , I Am Not George
says...

(Twistedhed) wrote in message
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Do or can you write and design software programs?

have him fix your webtv so it quotes correctly LOL

can he fix my satellite tv i don't want to miss anymore liza minelli

BP wrote:
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(Twistedhed) wrote in message
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Do or can you write and design software programs?

have him fix your webtv so it quotes correctly LOL

LOL! Thats a laugh! You have been flamed many times for
screwing up your share of threads around here, with your
google-puppet routine. You're throwing stones in glass
houses, again.., you akc flunkie. 8-}

lol get off my leg, humpy

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:16:56 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"
wrote in :


"Twistedhed" wrote in message
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Do or can you write and design software programs?

I did for class projects when I was working on my computer science degree.
The biggest program was an integrated DOS utility for reading disk
parameters, viewing the raw sector data, showing what disk clusters were
used by any file on the disk, and finally a disk defragmentation function.
The program featured pop-up overlapping menus, hot keys, and mouse control.
It was written in C++ and took me about 2-1/2 months to write working on it
around 15 to 20 hours per week, design - test - debugging. And after all
that it was specifically written for a 720K floppy disk so the professor
could test it without killing his hard drive in case of bugs. All that was
for a project for a class I took in operating systems. I think mine was the
only one that worked and also handled subdirectories too. Even the 20+
something year old class computer geek wiz, and the professor's pet student
no less, couldn't do it. I got the "look" from him in the hallway one day at
the start of the next semester.


2-1/2 months? You should have learned disk access functions on a
COCO-II -- your program would have been up and running in about three
days. IOW, it's much easier if you bypass the BIOS calls and access
the disk directly.


I haven't really gotten in to doing Windows programming, it's event driven
verses procedural coded. That's a totally different animal. Windows
programming is a real pain, and complex if you really want to take full
advantage of the system. For simple programs that don't need a lot of fancy
wiz-bang features Visual Basic is a good choice to use. The other choices
are Visual C++, C#, or Java. The last three are object orientated languages.
That could be a big chuck to bite off and learn for somebody who hasn't done
any programming at all.


I'll agree, Windoze sucks for programming. The libraries required for
even simple programs, while easier to understand than DOS, are far
more extensive than the DOS interrupt list, direct hardware control is
almost impossible, and the OS overhead sucks up most of the processing
power.


I've also done some Intel assembly language programming - 8080 and X86, and
VAX-11 assembly too. Assembly language programming is to computers like
Morse Code is to Ham Radio. Now that I think about it the first computer I
had was a Radio Shack TRS-80 with16K of memory. The first assembly language
program I wrote, in Z80 assembly, was to translate text on the screen into
Morse Code by keying the relay contact used to control the record/play-back
function of the cassette recorder used for program storage.


You might have enjoyed playing with a TI-990 I scrapped a couple
months ago.






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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:30:50 GMT, jim wrote
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Leland C. Scott wrote:
"Twistedhed" wrote in message
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Do or can you write and design software programs?


I did for class projects when I was working on my computer science degree.
The biggest program was an integrated DOS utility for reading disk
parameters, viewing the raw sector data, showing what disk clusters were
used by any file on the disk, and finally a disk defragmentation function.
The program featured pop-up overlapping menus, hot keys, and mouse control.
It was written in C++ and took me about 2-1/2 months to write working on it
around 15 to 20 hours per week, design - test - debugging. And after all
that it was specifically written for a 720K floppy disk so the professor
could test it without killing his hard drive in case of bugs. All that was
for a project for a class I took in operating systems. I think mine was the
only one that worked and also handled subdirectories too. Even the 20+
something year old class computer geek wiz, and the professor's pet student
no less, couldn't do it. I got the "look" from him in the hallway one day at
the start of the next semester.

I haven't really gotten in to doing Windows programming, it's event driven
verses procedural coded. That's a totally different animal. Windows
programming is a real pain, and complex if you really want to take full
advantage of the system. For simple programs that don't need a lot of fancy
wiz-bang features Visual Basic is a good choice to use. The other choices
are Visual C++, C#, or Java. The last three are object orientated languages.
That could be a big chuck to bite off and learn for somebody who hasn't done
any programming at all.

I've also done some Intel assembly language programming - 8080 and X86, and
VAX-11 assembly too. Assembly language programming is to computers like
Morse Code is to Ham Radio. Now that I think about it the first computer I
had was a Radio Shack TRS-80 with16K of memory. The first assembly language
program I wrote, in Z80 assembly, was to translate text on the screen into
Morse Code by keying the relay contact used to control the record/play-back
function of the cassette recorder used for program storage.
jeez leland you are showing your age :) i fixed the hardware problems
associated with the 8080 processor on several military related programs.
hell we used uv ovens to clear the memories of chips.
the simulators the air force used drum drive technology and if the sims
were having a problem we took out an alan key and physically moved the
read/write heads until it worked. the damn drum drives were used in
grumman a6 aircraft also. hehehe looking back its a wonder that stuff
actually worked.


Do you remember "bubble memory"?





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