On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:34:23 GMT, sideband wrote:



Twistedhed wrote:
You would be best served putting your voodoo radio bull**** to rest.
Assuming a peak and tune job is somehow related to increased "S" units
is imbecilic.

Twist:

Actually, there is a correlation.

He knows that. He just likes to insult me. But he's way out of his
element and way too far into mine if he wants to talk about radio
theory.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:34:23 GMT, sideband wrote:
Twistedhed wrote:
You would be best served putting your voodoo radio bull**** to rest.
Assuming a peak and tune job is somehow related to increased "S" units
is imbecilic.
Twist:
Actually, there is a correlation.

He knows that. He just likes to insult me.

Nothing was insultive was said to you in the above post.
Has nothing to with insult and if you weren't so insultive all the time
with your own posts you wouldn't be paranoid and misinterpret others
posts thinking they are all about you.

But

he's way out of his element and way too far

into mine if he wants to talk about radio

theory.


Hehe,,,,that's the davie we're all used to, the one that needs to blow
his own horn. It ilustrates your blown self-esteem. I guess if I was as
ignorant as your remarks about FCC law that hold roger beeps illegal and
dxing as a felony, I would hurry up and start tooting my own horn about
another area of which I have slightly more knowledge than that of the
law which governs "your" element.
Nevertheless, tuning a 4 watt radio will not affect any "S" unit on the
receiving end. You go on and believe it will and continue to sling your
voodoo bull**** that is found in your posts from your claim of making a
Davemade "spectrally pure" (something which you are unable to define,
but claim you did) to your bull**** about increased S units from a 4
watt radio.


Dave

"Sandbagger"

http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:04:33 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote:

From: (Dave*Hall)
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:34:23 GMT, sideband wrote:
Twistedhed wrote:
You would be best served putting your voodoo radio bull**** to rest.
Assuming a peak and tune job is somehow related to increased "S" units
is imbecilic.
Twist:
Actually, there is a correlation.

He knows that. He just likes to insult me.

Nothing was insultive was said to you in the above post.

Really? It's funny, when someone even remotely suggests that you're
opinions are off the mark, you accuse them of "getting personal", yet
you don't seem to apply the same consideration when you refer to
advice as "voodoo bull****".


But

he's way out of his element and way too far
into mine if he wants to talk about radio
theory.


Hehe,,,,that's the davie we're all used to, the one that needs to blow
his own horn.

If the shoe fits. In all likelihood, I've probably forgotten more
about the technical aspects of radio than you know now.


It ilustrates your blown self-esteem. I guess if I was as
ignorant as your remarks about FCC law that hold roger beeps illegal and
dxing as a felony,

Deny all you want. DXing IS illegal, and roger beeps were at one time
considered in the same vein as other noisemakers as devices to amuse
or entertain.

I would hurry up and start tooting my own horn about
another area of which I have slightly more knowledge than that of the
law which governs "your" element.

I understand the law well enough. At least I'm not blatantly
disregarding it.

Nevertheless, tuning a 4 watt radio will not affect any "S" unit on the
receiving end. You go on and believe it will and continue to sling your
voodoo bull**** that is found in your posts from your claim of making a
Davemade "spectrally pure" (something which you are unable to define,
but claim you did) to your bull**** about increased S units from a 4
watt radio.


Are you THAT literal? Are you disputing my claim because you're hung
up on the absolute definition of a "4 watt radio"? The term "4 watt
radio" in this context, refers to a stock (legal) CB. If you peak the
radio, of course it will no longer put out 4 watts, otherwise why do
it? The truth is (a truth that you're either too anally specific about
or unable to comprehend) that if you double your transmit power, you
increase your signal by 3db. A typical "S" meter is "calibrated" in
6db increments. Therefore, assuming a linear (no not the amplifier)
scale, an increase of 6 db (1 "S" unit) is the equivalent of taking a
4 watt carrier, and increasing it to 16 watts. Something that is not
possible from a simple "peak job".

There's nothing "voodoo" about it. But don't take my word for it.
Check out some books on radio propagation, and read it for yourself.



Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:04:33 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote:
From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:34:23 GMT, sideband wrote:
Twistedhed wrote:
You would be best served putting your voodoo radio bull**** to rest.
Assuming a peak and tune job is somehow related to increased "S" units
is imbecilic.
_
(Twist:
Actually, there is a correlation.)


He knows that. He just likes to insult me.


Nothing insultive was said to you in the above post.


Really? It's when someone even remotely

suggests you're off the mark of "getting

personal you don't seem to apply the

same consideration when you refer to advice

as "voodoo bull****".

I invoke your defense,,,,"If the shoe fits...."

But

he's way out of his element and way too far

into mine if he wants to talk about radio

theory.

Hehe,,,,that's the davie we're all used to, the one that needs to blow
his own horn.

If the shoe fits.

But it doesn't. You were asked to provide for your unsolicited bolster
that you "made the Davemade spectrally pure". Still waiting for you to
tell the masses how you did it, but you won't because you never did it,
you lied about it, just as you lie about everything in your world

In all likelihood, I've probably forgotten more

about the technical aspects of radio than

know know.
=A0
And still manage each and every day to illustrate you know less about
proper communication(s) skills and radio law than most cbers in this
forum. Hell, than most cbers I know.
_
=A0It ilustrates your blown self-esteem. I guess if I was as ignorant as
your remarks about FCC law that hold roger beeps illegal and dxing as a
felony,

Deny all you want.

You were the only one here denying roger beeps were legal and that dx
wasn't a felonious act, Davie, not I, not anyone else,,,,,only *you*.

DXing IS illegal,

Never was contested. What was contested and shot full of holes, was your
ignorant claim that those who talked dx were by virtue, a felon.
You were taught the merits on what you were attempting to discuss (dx
and laws pertaining to) was a civil matter, not criminal. You were
further instructed to email Phil Kane and ask him, since you were loathe
to believe me for personal reasons affecting your emotion that prevent
objectivity on your behalf. You obviously ****ed yourself off by placing
yourself in position to being forced to be educated once again by a
lowly cber. This is reflected upon your subtle cries of deflection
"well, it USED to be illegal" concerning the roger beeps, which you
still have yet to show or (yawn) provide for.



=A0=A0and roger beeps were at one time

considered in the same vein as other

noisemakers as

devices to amuse or entertain.


An still doesn't excuse your ignorance..ignorance of the law is no
excuse. You said they *were* illegal, not that they *used* to be
illegal. Twice you were wrong, twice you can't even bring yourself to
admit it, which is why I had to reiterate it and make you repeat
yourself and clarify in your own underhanded manner, that you now
comprehend dxing is not a felony and roger beeps are not illegal. You're
welcome.

I would hurry up and start tooting my own horn
about another area of which I have slightly

more knowledge than that of the law which

governs "your" element.

I guess you would, but then again you were so blatantly wrong twice in a
row, no one blames you for not starting to "toot your own horn about
another area" in which you claim knowledge.

I understand the law well enough.

Making claims that cbers talking dx makes them felons is about as far as
one can get from understanding the law, but you go on and continue to
espouse your ignorance and continue to believe you were successful in
passing it off as intelligence.

At least I'm

not blatantly disregarding it.


You can't even understand, comprehend, or define the law, so there is no
way at all you can claim you aren't disregarding it. Since you are
blatantly ignorant of the law, you can not comprehend when you blatantly
violate it.
More for your education today.....regardless of your repeated failed
attempts to portray myself as such, I don't blatantly disrespect the dx
law, Dither-Davie, I selectively disregard it. But since you are unable
to differentiate between civil and criminal, what constitutes each,
maintain
you are a psychiatrist and doctor of jurisprudence, claim that dxing is
a felony, and that one is a criminal without being convicted by a court
of law, one could not expect you to comprehend something as simple as
the difference between the two adverbs "blatantly" and "selectively"
_
Nevertheless, tuning a 4 watt radio will not affect any "S" unit on the
receiving end. You go on and believe it will and continue to sling your
voodoo bull**** that is found in your posts from your claim of making a
Davemade "spectrally pure" (something which you are unable to define,
but claim you did) to your bull**** about increased S units from a 4
watt radio.


Are you THAT literal?



Not at all, you're THAT off-topic and reaching for anything but the
topic which was being discussed in the thread to which I replied,,,,, .a
4 watt radio.


Are you disputing my

claim because you're hung up on the absolute

definition of a "4 watt radio"?

That was what was being discussed. Go on and reach for something else,
now,

The term "4 watt

radio" in this context, refers to a stock (legal)

CB.

As was being discussed.

If you peak the radio, of course it will no longer
put out 4 watts, otherwise why do it?

Lowering the deadkey to 3 watts.
I said a peak and tune on this radio will not result in a net change
(increase of S units) and you began menstruating....again.
Peaking and tuning are not synonymous, yet
you have voodoo'd them into a merger on many occasion.

The truth is (a truth that you're either too

anally specific about or unable to

comprehend) that if you double your transmit

power, you increase your signal by 3db.

You are unable to follow the thread, as usual, Davie. The radio in
question was a stock radio. I don't care how much peaking you do, you
aren't going to raise an S unit on a 4 watt radio,and THAT was the claim
I made, regarding the radio being discussed.

A typical "S" meter is "calibrated" in 6db

increments. Therefore, assuming a linear (no

not the amplifier) scale, an increase of 6 db (1

"S" unit) is the equivalent of taking a 4 watt

carrier, and increasing it to 16 watts.

Something that is not possible from a simple

"peak job".

And you danced around it until just now. Let's see my comment that has
you running all amok....."You would be best served putting your voodoo
radio bull**** to rest. Assuming a peak and tune job is somehow related
to increased "S" units is imbecilic."
Appears you are the one all "anally specific" (to use your term). I
guess I SHOULD have been specific when speaking to you, but I wasn't.
Here it is again, and this time, it's "anally-specific" and tailored to
YOUR anal specifications. See if you can tell the difference, then tell
me again how I was too specific the first time I posted it...

"You would be best seved putting your voodoo radio bull**** to rest.
Assuming a peak and tune job is somehow related to increased "S" units
ON THIS 4 WATT RADIO WE ARE SPEAKING OF is imbecilic."

There's nothing "voodoo" about it. But don't

take my word for it. Check out some books on

radio propagation, and read it for yourself.

Dave

"Sandbagger"

http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

Once again, intently satiated am I.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:03:41 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote:


I invoke your defense,,,,"If the shoe fits...."

You can't even be original.


But it doesn't. You were asked to provide for your unsolicited bolster
that you "made the Davemade spectrally pure". Still waiting for you to
tell the masses how you did it, but you won't because you never did it,
you lied about it, just as you lie about everything in your world

I provided the information. I'm sorry if the information was too
general for you. Technical details would 've gone over your head.

And for the record, I never said that the amp was "spectrally pure". I
stated that the amp was now within FCC emissions specs for use in the
H.F. Ham radio bands.

DXing IS illegal,

Never was contested. What was contested and shot full of holes, was your
ignorant claim that those who talked dx were by virtue, a felon.

They are criminal. As soon as you get it through you thick head that
someone who engages in breaking a law, whether you want to call it
criminal or civil, especially one which provides jail time, is
considered a criminal. Whether they are caught or ultimately convicted
is only a smoke screen for those who try to justify their behavior.


An still doesn't excuse your ignorance..ignorance of the law is no
excuse. You said they *were* illegal, not that they *used* to be
illegal.

I have seen no revised documentation which clarifies that a roger
beep is now an acceptable device.

I would hurry up and start tooting my own horn
about another area of which I have slightly
more knowledge than that of the law which
governs "your" element.

I guess you would, but then again you were so blatantly wrong twice in a
row, no one blames you for not starting to "toot your own horn about
another area" in which you claim knowledge.

Do you always answer yourself? You do realize that you're commenting
on your own statement. Please try to pay attention.....

Nevertheless, tuning a 4 watt radio will not affect any "S" unit on the
receiving end. You go on and believe it will and continue to sling your
voodoo bull**** that is found in your posts from your claim of making a
Davemade "spectrally pure" (something which you are unable to define,
but claim you did) to your bull**** about increased S units from a 4
watt radio.

You are completely off the rails. Why else would you tune a radio's
transmitter, other than to either increase or decrease the power? If
you do, then you will affect your signal on the receive end.


Are you THAT literal?

Not at all, you're THAT off-topic and reaching for anything but the
topic which was being discussed in the thread to which I replied,,,,, .a
4 watt radio.

No, the topic was whether or not a peak job was worth the money.


Are you disputing my
claim because you're hung up on the absolute
definition of a "4 watt radio"?

See above.


The term "4 watt
radio" in this context, refers to a stock (legal)
CB.

As was being discussed.

If you peak the radio, of course it will no longer
put out 4 watts, otherwise why do it?

Lowering the deadkey to 3 watts.

Ok, let's run with that. Are you saying that lowering the power to 3
watts will not have any difference on your signal?



I said a peak and tune on this radio will not result in a net change
(increase of S units) and you began menstruating....again.

It certainly will. People are duped into believing that a peak job
will make them "put out better". How else do you put out a better
signal without increasing the power? My point, of course, is that the
amount of power increase available from a peak job, is not significant
enough to make it worth what "screwdriver technicians" charge.


Peaking and tuning are not synonymous, yet
you have voodoo'd them into a merger on many occasion.

Why else would you "tune" a radio if not to alter the power output?
Please stop grasping at straws and enjoy the shoe leather you're
munching on.


A typical "S" meter is "calibrated" in 6db
increments. Therefore, assuming a linear (no
not the amplifier) scale, an increase of 6 db (1
"S" unit) is the equivalent of taking a 4 watt
carrier, and increasing it to 16 watts.
Something that is not possible from a simple
"peak job".

And you danced around it until just now. Let's see my comment that has
you running all amok....."You would be best served putting your voodoo
radio bull**** to rest. Assuming a peak and tune job is somehow related
to increased "S" units is imbecilic."

Why else would you peak a radio?

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

Once again, intently satiated am I.

Sedated more likely......

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:03:41 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote:
I invoke your defense,,,,"If the shoe fits...."

You can't even be original.


Originality doesn't equate validity, but then again, in your world, one
sees how you are unable to comprehend such simple concepts. You claim
civil infractions equals federal, felonious crimes, and that one is a
criminal for the mere act of speaking about something you know nothing
of (dx and law pertaining thereof) in the first place.

_
You were asked to provide for your unsolicited bolster that you "made
the Davemade spectrally pure". Still waiting for you to tell the masses
how you did it, but you won't because you never did it, you lied about
it, just as you lie about everything in your world

I provided the information.

Translation: I am unable.


I'm sorry if the information was too general for

you.



You're only sorry you were caught in so many lies.


Technical details would 've gone over

your head.


Once again, what you post is dictated by and originates with myself.


And for the record, I never said that the amp

was "spectrally pure".

I stated that the amp was now within FCC

emissions specs for use in the H.F. Ham radio
bands.


Hehehe,,your record is chock full of lies.


DXing IS illegal,

Never was contested. What was contested and shot full of holes, was your
ignorant claim that those who talked dx were by virtue, a felon.

They are criminal.


You said felon, in addition to criminal,

As soon as you get it through you thick head

that someone who engages in breaking a law,

whether you want to call it criminal or civil,

especially one which provides jail time, is

considered a criminal.



You speak in absolutes that invalidate everything you ever said. Talking
dx does NOT provide jail time. Of course, you always have the option of
providing for a single case that supports your bull****.


Whether they are caught or ultimately

convicted is only a smoke screen for those

who try to justify their behavior.



Sort of like you are struggling with by attempting but failing to
distant yourself from the incompetent "felon" remarks you have
incorrectly made.



I forgot more than you will ever know

An still doesn't excuse your ignorance..ignorance of the law is no
excuse. You said they *were* illegal, not that they *used* to be
illegal.

I have seen no revised documentation which

clarifies that a roger beep is now an

acceptable device.



Only because you're an incompetent who wrongly believes they were
illegal in the first place. Try this,,,present anything (other than your
charming but uneducated claims) that the FCC held or holds a roger beep
as illegal,,,at any time. Of course, this is the end of the road for
you concerning this thread, as you provide for nothing,,,,,ever.



I would hurry up and start tooting my own horn
about another area of which I have slightly

more knowledge than that of the law which

governs "your" element.


I guess you would, but then again you were so blatantly wrong twice in a
row, no one blames you for not starting to "toot your own horn about
another area" in which you claim knowledge.

Do you always answer yourself?


You posted it, not I.

You do realize that you're commenting on your
own statement.


Apparently that statement was so effective the first time in
illustrating your incompetence, you borrowed it for originalities sake.
Nevertheless, you presented it and directed to myself.

Please try to pay attention.....

Please try and get your communicative skills together. Regardless who
coined the words you present, other than homage to myself, you failing
to comprehend the simplest mannerisms of proper communication.
Nevertheless, tuning a 4 watt radio will not affect any "S" unit on the
receiving end. You go on and believe it will and continue to sling your
voodoo bull**** that is found in your posts from your claim of making a
Davemade "spectrally pure" (something which you are unable to define,
but claim you did) to your bull**** about increased S units from a 4
watt radio.

You are completely off the rails.


And you're bleeding from the gums and on the ropes,


Why else would you tune a radio's transmitter,
other than to either increase or decrease the

power?


Dither dither dither, davie. Try and stay focused, one of your
incompetencies at a time.
I said your peak and tune won't affect your S units on the 4 watt radio
of which you were portraying your ignorance.


If you do, then you will affect your signal on

the receive end.


Not by an S unit you won't.

Are you THAT literal?

Not at all, you're THAT off-topic and reaching for anything but the
topic which was being discussed in the thread to which I replied,,,,, .a
4 watt radio.

No, the topic was whether or not a peak job

was worth the money.



A peak job on what? A 4 watt radio, of course.


Are you disputing my

claim because you're hung up on the absolute

definition of a "4 watt radio"?

The term "4 watt

radio" in this context, refers to a stock (legal)

CB.

As was being discussed.

If you peak the radio, of course it will no longer
put out 4 watts, otherwise why do it?

Lowering the deadkey to 3 watts.

Ok, let's run with that. Are you saying that

lowering the power to 3 watts will not have any
difference on your signal?


Only you seem to be having problems with what I said. In the first
manner, you had to be taught (once again) the answer as to why one would
"otherwise do it" (peak and tune) because your one track mind can only
process one idea at a time. The fact that you had to ASK what else could
be done, in realization, shows you were unable to grasp the "lowering
the deadkey" reason. Now that you were educated better, you are taking
it and "running" with it.
Once again,,,,
I said a peak and tune on this radio will not result in a net change
(increase of S units) and you began menstruating....again.

It certainly will.

Again, this is your incompetence and voodoo bull****. Educate yourself,
oh self-annointed radio cop, psychiatrist, doctor of jurisprudence, and
self-elevated-and-referred-radio-tech.


People are duped into

believing that a peak job will make them "put

out better".

How else do you put out a better signal

without increasing the power?



Please explain to the world, absent of personal insult (if you can
manage such competencies) how peaking a 4 watt cb will increase the S
unit as you claim.


My point, of course, is



Obfuscation of your bull****, of course.

that the amount of power increase available

from a peak job, is not significant enough to

make it worth what "screwdriver technicians"

charge.

Peaking and tuning are not synonymous, yet you have voodoo'd them into a
merger on many occasion.

Why else would you "tune" a radio if not to

alter the power output? Please stop grasping

at straws and enjoy the shoe leather you're

munching on.



The phenomenon you are experiencing is akin to psychosis-induced
stigmata. You worship something so intensely, you believe you are
experiencing what you mistakenly believe your object of desire and
admiration feels.


A typical "S" meter is "calibrated" in 6db

increments. Therefore, assuming a linear (no

not the amplifier) scale, an increase of 6 db (1

"S" unit) is the equivalent of taking a 4 watt

carrier, and increasing it to 16 watts.

Something that is not possible from a simple

"peak job".

And you danced around it until just now. Let's see my comment that has
you running all amok....."You would be best served putting your voodoo
radio bull**** to rest. Assuming a peak and tune job is somehow related
to increased "S" units is imbecilic."

Why else would you peak a radio?


After watching you post regarding such peaks, I'm certain the world
would like to know exactly what you did to all those cb radios to
increase those S units. In fact, "spectrally pure" WERE your words
regarding the Davemade. I suggest you review your incompetencies prior
to denying them.

Dave

"Sandbagger"

http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

Once again, intently satiated am I.

Sedated more likely.....

If it soothes your ego.