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Alex October 4th 04 09:35 PM

A Mod tip I received in email ( Newbie )
 
I was emailing folks before I found this board about some
modifications and here is what i have gotten back so far. Keep in mind
that I adjusted the VR2 back to the way it was, but now that I have
received another email I'm wondering If I should try again. Exactly
what is this guy helping me do, and what effects will I see If I do
try again.

The email I sent out to him was::

I found your email in the forums, and have a few questions. I just
purchased a Cobra 19 DX III and was wondering if you know of any
specific Mods that I could do to make it get out there a little more.

His reply:

All you have to do on the dxiii is turn up the modulation pot. Open
speaker side cover and look for VR 2, this will be a chrome/silver
looking adjustable labeled on the board. Adjust it all the way left,
key your mike and say "auuudio" while looking at your LED bars on the
radio. If the LED bars don't increase as you say audio, turn the vr
all the way right. That's it.

I emailed him back with this;

The ones that were chrome plated were labeled like L10, L11
etc......I'm listening through a friends handheld. Should I be hearing
any excruciating feedback, because I'm not? I'm so tempted to turn
some of these other things just to see what they do, but I am sure
that would be a No-No because I dont want my radio screwed up. It just
hard for me to tell which way is good (right or left) since my bars
already hit the red when I speak.

He replied with this:

I can't remember which one it was, but adjust one of the other VRs
about 1/4 left or right to see which one adjusts the meter WHILE KEYED
UP. When you find it, adjust so while your keyed the meter reads
about half. THEN go back to vr2 and you should see the diff adjusting
the modulation.

DR. Death October 4th 04 11:46 PM

"Alex" wrote in message
...
I was emailing folks before I found this board about some
modifications and here is what i have gotten back so far. Keep in mind
that I adjusted the VR2 back to the way it was, but now that I have
received another email I'm wondering If I should try again. Exactly
what is this guy helping me do, and what effects will I see If I do
try again.

The email I sent out to him was::

I found your email in the forums, and have a few questions. I just
purchased a Cobra 19 DX III and was wondering if you know of any
specific Mods that I could do to make it get out there a little more.

His reply:

All you have to do on the dxiii is turn up the modulation pot. Open
speaker side cover and look for VR 2, this will be a chrome/silver
looking adjustable labeled on the board. Adjust it all the way left,
key your mike and say "auuudio" while looking at your LED bars on the
radio. If the LED bars don't increase as you say audio, turn the vr
all the way right. That's it.

I emailed him back with this;

The ones that were chrome plated were labeled like L10, L11
etc......I'm listening through a friends handheld. Should I be hearing
any excruciating feedback, because I'm not? I'm so tempted to turn
some of these other things just to see what they do, but I am sure
that would be a No-No because I dont want my radio screwed up. It just
hard for me to tell which way is good (right or left) since my bars
already hit the red when I speak.

He replied with this:

I can't remember which one it was, but adjust one of the other VRs
about 1/4 left or right to see which one adjusts the meter WHILE KEYED
UP. When you find it, adjust so while your keyed the meter reads
about half. THEN go back to vr2 and you should see the diff adjusting
the modulation.

I would suggest you NOT adjust anything. You obviously do not have the
knowledge or equipment to do this type of work. If you must have it peaked,
take it to a pro. Better to pay for a tune-up than to pay for a repair bill.



I Am Not George October 5th 04 04:47 AM

Alex wrote in message . ..

turn the vr all the way right. That's it.


lol this is the kind of bad advice that scott and eitner used to give out

Twistedhed October 5th 04 04:28 PM

From: (Alex)
I was emailing folks before I found this board about some modifications
and here is what i have gotten back so far. Keep in mind that I adjusted
the VR2 back to the way it was, but now that I have received another
email I'm wondering If I should try again. Exactly what is this guy
helping me do, and what effects will I see If I do try again.
_
VR2? You just made a post claiming you wanted to stay legal yesterday.
That was a quick jump.


Twistedhed October 5th 04 04:32 PM

From: (I=A0Am=A0Not=A0George)
Alex wrote in message
. ..
turn the vr all the way right. That's it.

lol this is the kind of bad advice that scott and


eitner used to give out


_
Hahha,,Eitner left skidmarks on your forehead. He never gave half-assed
incorrect advice like you and Hall and he damn sure provided for his
technical claims regarding his work, unlike the dither hack Hall.


Frank Gilliland October 6th 04 08:01 PM

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 16:35:34 -0400, Alex
wrote in :

snip
I'm so tempted to turn
some of these other things just to see what they do, but I am sure
that would be a No-No because I dont want my radio screwed up.



That's a very good idea. In my garage I have a pile of radios, about 2
cubic yards worth, over half of which are CBs that have been junked
because people screwed with things they didn't understand. These are
all from the Spokane area, which isn't exactly the CB capitol of the
world. Now I even have a couple pictures of this pile because some
idiot hit my garage Sunday right next to it. Wanna see a CB graveyard?





Wang, AthD \(h.c\) October 6th 04 09:06 PM

"Alex" wrote in message ...
I was emailing folks before I found this board about some
modifications and here is what i have gotten back so far. Keep in mind
that I adjusted the VR2 back to the way it was, but now that I have
received another email I'm wondering If I should try again. Exactly
what is this guy helping me do, and what effects will I see If I do
try again.

The email I sent out to him was::

I found your email in the forums, and have a few questions. I just
purchased a Cobra 19 DX III and was wondering if you know of any
specific Mods that I could do to make it get out there a little more.

His reply:

All you have to do on the dxiii is turn up the modulation pot. Open
speaker side cover and look for VR 2, this will be a chrome/silver
looking adjustable labeled on the board. Adjust it all the way left,
key your mike and say "auuudio" while looking at your LED bars on the
radio. If the LED bars don't increase as you say audio, turn the vr
all the way right. That's it.

I emailed him back with this;

The ones that were chrome plated were labeled like L10, L11
etc......I'm listening through a friends handheld. Should I be hearing
any excruciating feedback, because I'm not? I'm so tempted to turn
some of these other things just to see what they do, but I am sure
that would be a No-No because I dont want my radio screwed up. It just
hard for me to tell which way is good (right or left) since my bars
already hit the red when I speak.

He replied with this:

I can't remember which one it was, but adjust one of the other VRs
about 1/4 left or right to see which one adjusts the meter WHILE KEYED
UP. When you find it, adjust so while your keyed the meter reads
about half. THEN go back to vr2 and you should see the diff adjusting
the modulation.


Yet another radio getting the "golden screwdriver" treatment.
That's why there are so many CB rigs out there that sound like
crap.



Steveo October 7th 04 12:16 AM

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Wanna see a CB graveyard?

Yes! Please post links to jpegs. :)

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?

Steveo October 7th 04 12:46 AM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20041006191607.176
:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Wanna see a CB graveyard?

Yes! Please post links to jpegs. :)

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?


It's gonna look like a queer convention.

Is Kentucky too close to you?

I Am Not George October 7th 04 01:32 AM

Steveo wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?


wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL

Steveo October 7th 04 01:35 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?


wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL

I already invited you so stfu.

--
F the CC - Steve Earle

BP October 7th 04 01:42 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote in
m:

Steveo
wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?


wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL


Maybe if you would act your age, for once.....???!!

NAAAHHWWW! .."I say it never happens LOL"


I Am Not George October 7th 04 01:45 AM

Steveo wrote
(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?


wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL

I already invited you so stfu.


I did not get an invitation you penis swallowing liar.. but if you
really want I will address the group live via satelite

Steveo October 7th 04 01:53 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote
(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?

wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL

I already invited you so stfu.


I did not get an invitation you penis swallowing liar.. but if you
really want I will address the group live via satelite

We'll feed you with a sling-shot, you fugly *******.

--
F the CC - Steve Earle

BP October 7th 04 01:53 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote in
:

Steveo
wrote
(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?

wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL

I already invited you so stfu.


I did not get an invitation you penis swallowing liar.. but if you
really want I will address the group live via satelite


Yes, in shadowed silhouette, with a ginched up fake voice box? LOL!!!

Steveo October 7th 04 04:26 AM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20041006203526.652
:

(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?

wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL

I already invited you so stfu.


Do I get an invite??

Yes sir.

--
F the CC - Steve Earle

I Am Not George October 7th 04 04:50 AM

Steveo wrote:
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20041006203526.652
:

(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?

wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL

I already invited you so stfu.


Do I get an invite??

Yes sir.


hey lil bro take pictures

Steveo October 7th 04 04:55 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
news:20041006203526.652 :

(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo
wrote:

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?

wow a bunch of anonymous internet tough guys coming out of hiding,
this ought to be good, I say it never happens LOL

I already invited you so stfu.

Do I get an invite??

Yes sir.


hey lil bro take pictures

Be a fool not to. I'll throw the gloves in the camper so that we
can box too..great pics

--
F the CC - Steve Earle

I Am Not George October 7th 04 04:58 AM

Steveo wrote:
wrote:
hey lil bro take pictures


Be a fool not to. I'll throw the gloves in the camper so that we
can box too..great pics


especially the pics of you wearing a mask so no one can recognize you
and send your ID to doug LOL

Dave Hall October 7th 04 12:20 PM

On 06 Oct 2004 23:16:07 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Wanna see a CB graveyard?

Yes! Please post links to jpegs. :)

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?



Where and when?

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Steveo October 7th 04 01:05 PM

Dave Hall wrote:
On 06 Oct 2004 23:16:07 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Wanna see a CB graveyard?

Yes! Please post links to jpegs. :)

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?


Where and when?

Dave
"Sandbagger"

That's the $64 question.

--
F the CC - Steve Earle

Twistedhed October 7th 04 02:47 PM

From: (itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
Steveo wrote in news:20041006191607.176
:
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Wanna see a CB graveyard?


Yes! Please post links to jpegs. :)


Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb


bonanza?


(It's gonna look like a queer convention. )


Choose another escort besides Dogie and you won't give such an
impression.


DR. Death October 7th 04 07:41 PM

"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote
in message ...
Steveo wrote in news:20041006191607.176
:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Wanna see a CB graveyard?

Yes! Please post links to jpegs. :)

Hey, btw. Any interest in attending the rrcb bonanza?


It's gonna look like a queer convention.


Why????? Are you inviting your friends?



DR. Death October 7th 04 07:49 PM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Is Kentucky too close to you?


If it's in Kentucky, try to have it around the second weekend in April, that
way I can attend the Knob Creek machine gun shoot...............YEE
HAW!!!!!!!



Steveo October 7th 04 08:13 PM

"DR. Death" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Is Kentucky too close to you?


If it's in Kentucky, try to have it around the second weekend in April,
that way I can attend the Knob Creek machine gun shoot...............YEE
HAW!!!!!!!

Cool! I'll be in Bristol Tenn the first weekend in April.

--
F the CC - Steve Earle

Frank Gilliland October 7th 04 09:58 PM

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 07:18:45 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

snip
I am Clear Channel of borg. Resistance is futile. Your station WILL be
assimilated......



NO ****!




Dave Hall October 8th 04 12:19 PM

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:58:24 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 07:18:45 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

snip
I am Clear Channel of borg. Resistance is futile. Your station WILL be
assimilated......



NO ****!




A sad but true reality in this modern age of broadcasting. The "mom
and pop" radio stations can no longer compete in the big money
corporate arena.

There was a time when I was seriously considering a career in
broadcasting. I was tossing a coin over whether I wanted to be a
broadcast engineer or radio personality. But when the rules changed
and radio stations started getting bought out by bottom-line oriented
corporations which stick to canned format formulas, and discourage
individualism, I lost my taste for the talent side of the business.
When I found out what a typical engineer was making, that soured me as
well. Only those at the top stations in major market areas, make any
real money.

It's a shame. I grew up listening to some real radio talent (Who
didn't have to mention bodily functions every few minutes to get a
laugh). I really liked the Drake/Chenault "Boss Radio" format which
started at KHJ in Los Angeles and migrated to my area at some really
great stations like WFIL in Phila, and WABC in New York.

It really was a "dream job" for alot of us then.....

Relive some of that time:
http://www.reelradio.com

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Frank Gilliland October 8th 04 02:06 PM

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:19:24 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

clip....er, snip
It's a shame. I grew up listening to some real radio talent (Who
didn't have to mention bodily functions every few minutes to get a
laugh). I really liked the Drake/Chenault "Boss Radio" format which
started at KHJ in Los Angeles and migrated to my area at some really
great stations like WFIL in Phila, and WABC in New York.



My favorite was CBS Radio Mystery Theatre hosted by E. G. Marshall.
When that was canceled it was the beginning of the end of radio, IMHO.





Twistedhed October 8th 04 02:16 PM

Frank Gilliland wrote:
I was a BE up until a couple months ago. Currently I'm subcontracting
audio equipment maintenance with the station, but that leaves me with
all the self-employment costs. It's almost not worth the effort. And
even the subcontracting may not last because the station is expected to
fall within months. I'm thinking about a new career doing a little
gold-panning in Idaho next year.....
_
Right on! Some serious country up there....you gonna set up a small
operation or just take pan in hand? Heck, plan it right, take the entire
summer....what a job!


Frank Gilliland October 8th 04 02:39 PM

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:16:14 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote in :

Frank Gilliland wrote:
I was a BE up until a couple months ago. Currently I'm subcontracting
audio equipment maintenance with the station, but that leaves me with
all the self-employment costs. It's almost not worth the effort. And
even the subcontracting may not last because the station is expected to
fall within months. I'm thinking about a new career doing a little
gold-panning in Idaho next year.....
_
Right on! Some serious country up there....you gonna set up a small
operation or just take pan in hand? Heck, plan it right, take the entire
summer....what a job!



If I go it will be for the duration -- which is about three months. I
figure it will take a month to locate some good sites with geochemical
analysis, another month to map the sites with a magnetometer, then dig
until the freeze sets in for winter. I've done the trip a couple times
several years ago, with less-than-profitable results. I've discovered
a few new tricks since then, but I've also added a little more cargo
to the old ruck-sack.....




Frank Gilliland October 8th 04 02:41 PM

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:16:14 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote in :

snip

BTW, what's the status....?




Dave Hall October 8th 04 02:59 PM

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:06:25 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:19:24 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

clip....er, snip
It's a shame. I grew up listening to some real radio talent (Who
didn't have to mention bodily functions every few minutes to get a
laugh). I really liked the Drake/Chenault "Boss Radio" format which
started at KHJ in Los Angeles and migrated to my area at some really
great stations like WFIL in Phila, and WABC in New York.



My favorite was CBS Radio Mystery Theatre hosted by E. G. Marshall.
When that was canceled it was the beginning of the end of r adio,IMHO.


Are you referring to the original programs which aired in the 40's,
or the "revival" programs which aired in the 70's?

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj


U Know Who October 8th 04 11:34 PM


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 07:19:24 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

clip....er, snip
It's a shame. I grew up listening to some real radio talent (Who
didn't have to mention bodily functions every few minutes to get a
laugh). I really liked the Drake/Chenault "Boss Radio" format which
started at KHJ in Los Angeles and migrated to my area at some really
great stations like WFIL in Phila, and WABC in New York.



My favorite was CBS Radio Mystery Theatre hosted by E. G. Marshall.
When that was canceled it was the beginning of the end of radio, IMHO.


Man, I really loved that show!!!!!!!!



Frank Gilliland October 9th 04 01:42 AM

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:02:21 -0500, "Chad Wahls"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
.. .

snip
Audio repair, eh? Did you learn about Peavey's dual-diode bias scheme
the easy way or the hard way?

I was head tech at a Peavey service center, I learned it the easy way.
(thanks Max H.) Ever taken apart a 1200D powered mixer? One of my peavey
peves :) Ranks up there with a root canal. I never want to see another one
of those XLR jacks again :)



Never touched one, but I've never seen a mixer that wasn't a pain to
disassemble. On that subject, the old rack-mount Carver's get my vote
as the biggest hardware headache. Whoever designed the layout in those
things was either a super-genius or an LSD freak.


I was also the undisputed king of the DPC line of amps because we serviced a
nation wide DJ service that had hundreds of them. I can do those with my
eyes closed, If you ever need a hand on those I know most all of the
"tricks". They can be intimidating at first but there's ways to make them
easy. Those IGBT's are quite expensive!



I heard they had problems with self-oscillation. Is that just a rumor?


Mackie is a headache with screws, Kurtzweil is the worst, yadada yadada. I
could talk shop and stupid musicians for days. Maybe I should attend the
picnic.



Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.






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Chad Wahls October 11th 04 02:13 PM


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:02:21 -0500, "Chad Wahls"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
. ..

snip
Audio repair, eh? Did you learn about Peavey's dual-diode bias scheme
the easy way or the hard way?

I was head tech at a Peavey service center, I learned it the easy way.
(thanks Max H.) Ever taken apart a 1200D powered mixer? One of my peavey
peves :) Ranks up there with a root canal. I never want to see another
one
of those XLR jacks again :)



Never touched one, but I've never seen a mixer that wasn't a pain to
disassemble. On that subject, the old rack-mount Carver's get my vote
as the biggest hardware headache. Whoever designed the layout in those
things was either a super-genius or an LSD freak.


Agreed on the Carver!!! Every time I open one I think "wow, does it HAVE to
be this hard?" I have a PM350 at home on the bench now, make that two :)


I was also the undisputed king of the DPC line of amps because we serviced
a
nation wide DJ service that had hundreds of them. I can do those with my
eyes closed, If you ever need a hand on those I know most all of the
"tricks". They can be intimidating at first but there's ways to make them
easy. Those IGBT's are quite expensive!



I heard they had problems with self-oscillation. Is that just a rumor?



Nope not a rumor. After time and abuse the filter networks on the ass end
of the output section age. You can dial it back in with the tuning
inductors, but if it has been run really hard then replacing the section is
best, it's cheaper than a rebuild down the road when it finally takes off.
Ironically you can tune it with a scope and an old tube AM radio, yes folks
an AM radio! You watch the scope till you get the junk out of the outputs
then liastn to the radio, when you can hear your talk radio again then it's
tuned, crude but amazingly effective.

Mackie is a headache with screws, Kurtzweil is the worst, yadada yadada.
I
could talk shop and stupid musicians for days. Maybe I should attend the
picnic.



Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into
their DSP2496 system controllers right now.

Chad



Frank Gilliland October 12th 04 12:42 AM

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:13:19 -0500, "Chad Wahls"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
.. .

snip
I heard they had problems with self-oscillation. Is that just a rumor?



Nope not a rumor. After time and abuse the filter networks on the ass end
of the output section age. You can dial it back in with the tuning
inductors, but if it has been run really hard then replacing the section is
best, it's cheaper than a rebuild down the road when it finally takes off.
Ironically you can tune it with a scope and an old tube AM radio, yes folks
an AM radio! You watch the scope till you get the junk out of the outputs
then liastn to the radio, when you can hear your talk radio again then it's
tuned, crude but amazingly effective.



Holy crap..... I saved this post in case I ever have to work on one!


Mackie is a headache with screws, Kurtzweil is the worst, yadada yadada.
I
could talk shop and stupid musicians for days. Maybe I should attend the
picnic.



Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into
their DSP2496 system controllers right now.



I have a friend that runs some Behringer stuff in his band. He uses a
lot of sequences, too. I'll give him a call and ask exactly what he
runs and what he recommends.






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Andy Cullen October 12th 04 12:59 PM

Dear Chad,

We're sorry to hear that you're having difficulty locating spare parts
for Behringer equipment.
This is our first post into this group - and apart from the spares, we
are delighted to hear what you all have to say about our products !
Usually it's not a problem to get hold of our spares, but perhaps you
need to find a better point of contact ? We're assuming that you're
based in mainland USA, so we've taken the liberty to forward your
details to the service manger at Behringer USA. He'll be in touch with
you shortly, and we're sure that he can guide you to the most
appropriate source.

Best regards,

Andy Cullen

Customer Support Administrator
BEHRINGER Spezielle Studiotechnik GmbH





"Chad Wahls" wrote in message ...
Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into


their DSP2496 system controllers right now.

Chad


Chad Wahls October 12th 04 03:27 PM


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:13:19 -0500, "Chad Wahls"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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snip
I heard they had problems with self-oscillation. Is that just a rumor?



Nope not a rumor. After time and abuse the filter networks on the ass end
of the output section age. You can dial it back in with the tuning
inductors, but if it has been run really hard then replacing the section
is
best, it's cheaper than a rebuild down the road when it finally takes off.
Ironically you can tune it with a scope and an old tube AM radio, yes
folks
an AM radio! You watch the scope till you get the junk out of the outputs
then liastn to the radio, when you can hear your talk radio again then
it's
tuned, crude but amazingly effective.



Holy crap..... I saved this post in case I ever have to work on one!



Gotta do it with the cover off to get as much stray RF as possible. There
are tuning holes in the top cover that correspond to the inductors. Never
hurts to pop the top and look for burnt components in the network. Also a
good idea and pull the power board and hard wire all the screw studs
together that reference ground. This keeps a loose screw from the bottom
plate from causing major problems! (the bottom plate is the ground bus
(grrrrr))

Mackie is a headache with screws, Kurtzweil is the worst, yadada yadada.
I
could talk shop and stupid musicians for days. Maybe I should attend
the
picnic.


Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into
their DSP2496 system controllers right now.



I have a friend that runs some Behringer stuff in his band. He uses a
lot of sequences, too. I'll give him a call and ask exactly what he
runs and what he recommends.



The DSP2496 is slick, it takes a digital input which is going to be nice
when I get a digital FOH console. The price is right and they work great.
I have used their subharmonic synth, it's great also, right where DBX left
off! The digital EQ is cool, but console wise my needs are above what they
produce at this time.

I think it's wonderful to see such a company do a complete 180 in just a few
years. Behringer products are popping up more and more on the road and are
becoming accepted by visiting engineers. Can't go wrong. I use their
products for tools moreso than as a whole but they have what I need.

Chad



Jim Savery October 13th 04 07:27 AM

Hello Chad (and all). My name is Jim Savery, and I am with BEHRINGER in the
USA. Our offices are near Seattle, WA, which is the best point of contact
for your particular service and support needs.

Chad, we have two authorized repair centers near you in Illinois. The first
is MidWest Audio, located up in Arlington Heights. You can visit their web
site at:

http://www.midwestaudio.net

The other local service center is in downtown Chicago, and it is called
Deltronics. Their web site can be found at:

http://www.deltronicschicago.com

Finally, we have a spare parts retailer online in New York City. They are
one of our oldest repair centers and they can ship parts nation-wide. See
them online at:

http://www.dbmproaudio.com

If you need technical support or parts identification help, you can call my
office at 425-672-0816, or use our online support system at:

http://www.behringer.com/05_support/index.cfm?lang=ENG . See the bottom left
corner of the page for the online support link.

I hope these various resources address all of your existing concerns about
service and support availability for BEHRINGER products in the USA, Canada
and Latin America. I will also post this information to rec.radio.cb just
to make sure it reaches you and all other interested parties. We understand
and respect the non-commercial nature of USENET, so please accept this post
as a one-time response to the specific concerns you voiced earlier.

Best Regards,

Jim Savery
Global Customer Support Manager
BEHRINGER The Americas
Tel: 1-425-672-0816 x 111
Fax: 1-425-673-7647
IP Phone Ext: 5024

http://www.behringer.com


"Andy Cullen" wrote in message
om...
Dear Chad,

We're sorry to hear that you're having difficulty locating spare parts
for Behringer equipment.
This is our first post into this group - and apart from the spares, we
are delighted to hear what you all have to say about our products !
Usually it's not a problem to get hold of our spares, but perhaps you
need to find a better point of contact ? We're assuming that you're
based in mainland USA, so we've taken the liberty to forward your
details to the service manger at Behringer USA. He'll be in touch with
you shortly, and we're sure that he can guide you to the most
appropriate source.

Best regards,

Andy Cullen

Customer Support Administrator
BEHRINGER Spezielle Studiotechnik GmbH





"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
...
Mackie sucks. But Behringer kicks ass inside and out! The only thing
I've -ever- had to do to a Behringer was replace the occasional busted
or missing knob.



I've been inside the occasional Behringer to repair cold solder etc in
the
old daze, they had notorious QC problems, but in the past few years they
have come leaps and bounds. I still have to turn them away due to
difficulty obtaining parts. I recently bought a couple of their DI boxes
and you can't beat them for twice the price. I'm seriously looking into


their DSP2496 system controllers right now.

Chad






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