"Martin" wrote
"I Am Not George" wrote in message
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"Pat Stevens" wrote
I think they have pointed out in the past that this is a
"freebander"
who likes to casually throw out other people's callsigns,
attempting
to show that he should be working with amateur radio, when he
isn't.
They are getting upset, because he has posted this similar
message about 5 different ways, within the last week.
C'est la vie.

stand by for a freebander defense from twisty or his sock

Not so much the 'freebander' bit, but that he is known for causing
trouble among ALL operators (including freebanders), and operates
on amateur bands unlicensed, and throws out other peoples
names and callsigns to try and justify the info he is seeking, and
has caused numerous people on air, on various frequencies,
lots of grief and trouble.....
If he was 'only a freebander' - i.e. if his only 'crime' was
operating on
the out-of-band CB channels, then much of this would not have
happened - but I think we all know and accept that you don't need
a high power all mode full access amateur HF transceiver just
to talk on the out-of-band channels!!!!!
From the Amateur point of view - unless someone is licensed
or is currently studying to get their licence, do we really want
them having access to such equipment?

Here in rec.radio.cb we have several freebanders who tell other Cbers
how wonderful the unlicensed use of amateur equipment is, of course
they are posting anonymously, one of them uses
Collins gear, another one uses Ten Tec, they say
they use them above 28 and below 26 mhz which is not in a ham band but
is goverment use, of course they dont care. One of them
has admitted he uses a kenwood on ham bands with no
license, in fact if a newbie asks in rec.radio.cb which is the best CB
rig many of the freebanders will urge him to get a ham rig and operate
it.

"I Am Not George" wrote in message
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"Martin" wrote
"I Am Not George" wrote in message
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"Pat Stevens" wrote
I think they have pointed out in the past that this is a
"freebander"
who likes to casually throw out other people's callsigns,
attempting
to show that he should be working with amateur radio, when he
isn't.
They are getting upset, because he has posted this similar
message about 5 different ways, within the last week.
C'est la vie.

stand by for a freebander defense from twisty or his sock

Not so much the 'freebander' bit, but that he is known for causing
trouble among ALL operators (including freebanders), and operates
on amateur bands unlicensed, and throws out other peoples
names and callsigns to try and justify the info he is seeking, and
has caused numerous people on air, on various frequencies,
lots of grief and trouble.....
If he was 'only a freebander' - i.e. if his only 'crime' was
operating on
the out-of-band CB channels, then much of this would not have
happened - but I think we all know and accept that you don't need
a high power all mode full access amateur HF transceiver just
to talk on the out-of-band channels!!!!!
From the Amateur point of view - unless someone is licensed
or is currently studying to get their licence, do we really want
them having access to such equipment?

Here in rec.radio.cb we have several freebanders who tell other Cbers
how wonderful the unlicensed use of amateur equipment is, of course
they are posting anonymously, one of them uses
Collins gear, another one uses Ten Tec, they say
they use them above 28 and below 26 mhz which is not in a ham band but
is goverment use, of course they dont care. One of them
has admitted he uses a kenwood on ham bands with no
license, in fact if a newbie asks in rec.radio.cb which is the best CB
rig many of the freebanders will urge him to get a ham rig and operate
it.

Although not much happens often, in Australia the relevant Act not only
makes it illegal to operate an unlicensed transceiver, but also illegal to
possess it AND to sell it to someone not authorised to own it..

Leaves the gate wide open for all those stores that sell gear to anyone
without a care, and is also a reason why most Australian amateurs will not
sell equipment to an unlicensed person unless they will soon be licensed...

I know of several cases in Australia where the smart arse 'freebanders' have
lost their precious amateur equipment, plus been handed a nice little fine
as well... eventually it hurts the hip pocket I guess. Maybe they should
realise that nobody is anonymous on the internet to the government anymore.
The first sign of their freebanding causing problems, I'm sure the
FCC/ACA/whoever will find them rather quickly and their precious equipment
that they have forked out so much hard earned welfare money for will end up
at a government auction! (although it is still illegal those that don't
draw attention to themselves and operate sensibly, staying away from other
allocated frequencies, tend to go un-noticed much, much longer!)

Just because they haven't had the knock on the door yet doesn't mean they
aren't on tape back at the FCC/ACA/whoever with a nice little resume
building up!! They don't always jump in and take immediate action - they
may sit back for years and just listen and take notes - which is probably
worse because when they do decide to jump they probably have 100 times more
against you than they would've in the first instance!!!

They should also realise that (in Australia anyway) the MILITARY have
allocations in the portions between CB channel 40 and the 27MHz marine
band - I'm sure in the worlds current state of mind interference to military
communications may invoke some consequences that we have never seen before -
especially for all those USA residents out there that now have all those
extra wonderful laws to deal with terrorists!!!

Wonder if I can pick up a very cheap HF amateur set at the next ACA
confiscated equipment auction????

"Martin" wrote:
Maybe they should realise that nobody is anonymous on the internet to the
government anymore.

Especially the mother ****er you're agreeing with. Check him out if you
care.

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