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Old November 27th 04, 01:25 PM
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This is a must read - it's short but Very informative! The Muslim
religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United
States, especially in the minority races. Allah or Jesus? by
Rick Mathes.

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required
for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the
training session there was a presentation by three speakers
representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths,
who explained each of their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to
say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam,
complete with a video. After the presentations, time was
provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and
asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that
most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad
[Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing
an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured
of a place in heaven.

If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without
hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let
me make sure I have this straight.

All Followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone
who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that
correct?" The expression on his face changed from one of
authority and command to that of a little boy who had just
gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly
replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to
imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill
those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do
the same in order to go to Heaven!" The Imam was
speechless.

I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when
you and Your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill
me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have
your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven
or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to
Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head
in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters
of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with
Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the
truth about the Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but
with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU,
there is no way this will be widely publicized.

Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true
story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in
prison ministry.
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Old November 27th 04, 10:01 PM
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Steveo wrote in message ...
This is a must read - it's short but Very informative! The Muslim
religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United
States, especially in the minority races. Allah or Jesus? by
Rick Mathes.

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required
for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the
training session there was a presentation by three speakers
representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths,
who explained each of their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to
say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam,
complete with a video. After the presentations, time was
provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and
asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that
most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad
[Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing
an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured
of a place in heaven.

If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without
hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let
me make sure I have this straight.

All Followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone
who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that
correct?" The expression on his face changed from one of
authority and command to that of a little boy who had just
gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly
replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to
imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill
those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do
the same in order to go to Heaven!" The Imam was
speechless.

I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when
you and Your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill
me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have
your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven
or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to
Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head
in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters
of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with
Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the
truth about the Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but
with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU,
there is no way this will be widely publicized.

Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true
story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in
prison ministry.


This is not a true story, it is an urban legend. See below.

THE REAL DEAL!!!!
Reporter Greg Kearney, writing for the Lee News Service, traced the
story to a correctional facility in Fulton, Missouri, and came away
with a decidedly different version of events from Missouri state
officials.

According to Tim Kniest, Public Information Officer for the Missouri
Department of Corrections, the event described was a training program
for prison volunteers, for which ministers from several faiths were
invited to give presentations in order to acquaint prison volunteers
with the varied religious beliefs of the inmate population. The man
who gave the presentation about Islam was not a Muslim minister; he
was an inmate pressed into service to present a short film on Islam
and answer some questions when the prison's Volunteer Coordinator was
"unable to find an Imam to speak."

Moreover, reported Mr. Kniest, the prison's Volunteer Coordinator said
that "The inmate did a good job," adding, "He was asked a few
questions
that were beyond his ability to answer. But he was not asked anything
like that question [in the editorial]":
Kniest said that no such exchange as the editorial reported ever took
place. "He certainly did not 'Hang his head in shame'," said Kniest.
In fact, the inmate was thanked by the assembly before being escorted
back to his
quarters. Furthermore, Kniest says there were absolutely no questions
asked dealing with jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world
as reported in the editorial.

In the editorial the inmate is presented as an Imam, or Islamic
minister, which he clearly was not.
Whatever transpired at the prison session referred to above, the
notion expressed by this piece is a complete lie. Islam is not a
monolithic religion in which unanimity of belief and action is
coordinated from a central authority. Islam has an estimated two
billion adherents in countries all over the world who belong to any
one of a number of different sects with varying beliefs, traditions,
and interpretations of scripture. (As well, some religious groups
identify themselves as Islamic but are not recognized as such by the
vast majority of Muslims.) No one Muslim (especially one who wasn't
even a cleric) could speak to what all of Islam believes, any more
than a single member of a Methodist congregation could speak for
every denomination and follower of Christianity. The vast majority of
Muslims
completely reject the idea that "all followers of Allah have been
commanded to
kill everyone who is not of their faith," or even the suggestion that
such an interpretation has ever been a valid tenet of Islam. We sent
this piece to several Muslim groups and invited them to offer
comments; they provided somewhat different explanations about the
concept of jihad, how Muslims regard non-Muslims, and other related
topics, but they all agreed that the editorial presented a grossly
distorted and bigoted version of their beliefs.
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Old November 27th 04, 10:34 PM
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So what is the definition of an infidel according to the Muslim
religion, dogie?

(Psychiatrist to keyclowns) wrote:
Steveo wrote in message
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This is a must read - it's short but Very informative!

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Old November 27th 04, 11:12 PM
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"Steveo" wrote in message
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So what is the definition of an infidel according to the Muslim
religion, dogie?


Ask that nitwit president you elected. He's dumb enough to buy this tripe.


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Old November 27th 04, 11:19 PM
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"U Know Who" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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So what is the definition of an infidel according to the Muslim
religion, dogie?


Ask that nitwit president you elected. He's dumb enough to buy this
tripe.

Tough titties libby..he's -YOUR- President too.


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