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On 14 Jan 2005 14:40:43 GMT, Steveo wrote:
I think Mrs. Enzo will get ****ed. Hiding it out in the trees would be great. Plus I don't know if there are any local ordinances regarding a mast. Frank presented another problem. The damn Ground hogs, moles, squirrels, will eat my coax. Vinnie S. Vinnie, Frank, pay attention. He is going to do a buried 150 ft coax run to the tree, right? What's the velocity factor of RG8 or of the coax he will use? Do the math, how much of his 4w out will reach the antenna? He claims he isnt gonna keyclown, but I think he's lying. |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:21:36 GMT, wrote in
: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:18:49 GMT, wrote in : snip Vinnie, don't use a tuner if you don't know WTF you're doing, The guy want's the most bang for his buck, and he can do that with an antenna tuner. It will probably cost him a whole $20 and it doesn't take a college degree to operate -- jeez, it's only three knobs. And even if you don't know what you are doing you can usually fiddle with it long enough to tune in a good match to just about anything, even a bed spring. you'll be constantly throwing carriers yelling AAUDDIOO whistling into the mike trying to get 1:1, a real pain in the ass for anyone trying to use the CB in your area. Forget about radials in the attic, you'll screw it up, stop trying to get cute, JUST BUY A NORMAL CB ANTENNA AND PUT IT OUTSIDE, YOU F-ING MAROON. If you get that upset about such a trivial issue then maybe you should look for a stress management support group in your area. Antenna tuner loading his rain gutters? Chances are good he'll be into all the electronic devices in his house. That's a crock of **** and you know it. Yeah, but it's only a partial crock of ****. The rain gutters or wire or whatever are only half the dipole so the house wiring will become the other active half and they will radiate. He grounds his tuner to a ground rod, but also his coax to the radio will tie him in to the service ground of the residence. |
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:08:36 GMT, Lancer wrote in
: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 19:40:56 GMT, wrote: On 14 Jan 2005 14:40:43 GMT, Steveo wrote: I think Mrs. Enzo will get ****ed. Hiding it out in the trees would be great. Plus I don't know if there are any local ordinances regarding a mast. Frank presented another problem. The damn Ground hogs, moles, squirrels, will eat my coax. Vinnie S. Vinnie, Frank, pay attention. He is going to do a buried 150 ft coax run to the tree, right? What's the velocity factor of RG8 or of the coax he will use? .78 or 78% Do the math, how much of his 4w out will reach the antenna? 2.9 watts 150 feet of RG-8 has 1.71 dB loss at 27 MHz, so the power at the other end would be 2.7 watts. Not enough to quibble about except that line loss has nothing to do with velocity factor. |
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:38:04 GMT, wrote in
: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:21:36 GMT, wrote in : On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:18:49 GMT, wrote in : snip Vinnie, don't use a tuner if you don't know WTF you're doing, The guy want's the most bang for his buck, and he can do that with an antenna tuner. It will probably cost him a whole $20 and it doesn't take a college degree to operate -- jeez, it's only three knobs. And even if you don't know what you are doing you can usually fiddle with it long enough to tune in a good match to just about anything, even a bed spring. you'll be constantly throwing carriers yelling AAUDDIOO whistling into the mike trying to get 1:1, a real pain in the ass for anyone trying to use the CB in your area. Forget about radials in the attic, you'll screw it up, stop trying to get cute, JUST BUY A NORMAL CB ANTENNA AND PUT IT OUTSIDE, YOU F-ING MAROON. If you get that upset about such a trivial issue then maybe you should look for a stress management support group in your area. Antenna tuner loading his rain gutters? Chances are good he'll be into all the electronic devices in his house. That's a crock of **** and you know it. Yeah, but it's only a partial crock of ****. The rain gutters or wire or whatever are only half the dipole...... It's not a dipole or even half of a dipole. It's just an untuned hunk of metal, hence the need for a tuner. And a tuner doesn't turn it into a hertzian dipole -- it just sets up a resonance so RF current can flow and therefore radiate. so the house wiring will become the other active half and they will radiate. So what's the problem? He grounds his tuner to a ground rod, but also his coax to the radio will tie him in to the service ground of the residence. And your point is.....? |
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:34:09 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote in : snip If I use a Firestik, which are usually top-loaded, and connect it to some 9 ft. piping that I can use as radials (in a crossing pattern), and ground them to a grounding rod, would that work? Why pipe? Just run a whole bunch of wires radiating from the base. Make them as long as possible and don't worry about any specific length -- it's even better if they are different lengths (which will be the case unless your house is round). Simply cover your attic floor with radials. Also, I have ground hogs, moles, and rabbits everywhere. Won't they chew up the coax? If you leave them on or under the ground, yep. I guess I am going to have PVC conduit the coax then. I don't have a choice. I wouldn't even mess with running a coax out that far. It's just not worth the effort. You would be better off using what you have around the house. Got a flagpole? |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:56:28 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:34:09 -0500, Vinnie S. wrote in : snip If I use a Firestik, which are usually top-loaded, and connect it to some 9 ft. piping that I can use as radials (in a crossing pattern), and ground them to a grounding rod, would that work? Why pipe? Just run a whole bunch of wires radiating from the base. Make them as long as possible and don't worry about any specific length -- it's even better if they are different lengths (which will be the case unless your house is round). Simply cover your attic floor with radials. If the wire will work just as good, I wil do that. Also, I have ground hogs, moles, and rabbits everywhere. Won't they chew up the coax? If you leave them on or under the ground, yep. I guess I am going to have PVC conduit the coax then. I don't have a choice. I wouldn't even mess with running a coax out that far. It's just not worth the effort. You would be better off using what you have around the house. Got a flagpole? No. And I can't put one in front of my house, because the septic drain field is there. Vinnie S. |
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