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itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge February 17th 05 03:18 PM

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in news:11820-4214ABD6-877
@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:

By whose definition? Yours? It's wrong.
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the state
is void of radar.


Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania, i didnt
say they were devoid of radar or a non radar state. I said penns was not a
radar state by any means there are states that use radar in every town
municipality and boro, penns is not one of them, that means they are not
really a "radar state" that is not thier primary means of speed
enforcement. Do the state police use em sure do, but there are more towns
and municipalities than state police by a large stretch hence it is not
really a radar state... Now go twisty some more words around since you dont
understand.

I AmnotGeorgeBush February 17th 05 03:21 PM

From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214AB53-876 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:
They very rarely use a helicopter for traffic


enforcement


Perhaps in your neck of the woods, they do not, but in the larger cities
and metropolis', they most certainly do.

They don't use them to stop speeders


Correct, a helicopter does not stop speeders, they engage with the units
on the ground that stop the speeders.

you


dumb jackass.




That mother-issue really has you screwed up...just when you thought you
were over it.


People who are running from police yes, but


the casual speeder is not caught from a


helicopter.



Called a bear-in-the-air. Of course, if you left the cave of despair
once every few years, you would be clued in.

That **** went out long ago it is too expensive
and you still need officers on the ground,.



Of course you do, Dave...for pulling over the speeder.

talk baout something you know about tipsy like
fishing or trolling 2 things you are good at


Or dangling my loyal subject as the court jester for all to enjoy. See,
I share my good fortune and sunny disposition.


I AmnotGeorgeBush February 17th 05 04:00 PM

From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214ABD6-877 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:
By whose definition? Yours? It's wrong.
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the state
is void of radar.

Mine and any company who proposes to sell


radar to Pennsylvania,



Oh, a marketing ploy certainly makes it official, then.

i didnt say they were devoid of radar or a non


radar state.




That IS exactly what the phrase you invoked
means.

I said penns was not a radar state by any


means there are states that use radar in every
town municipality and boro, penns is not one


of them, that means they are not really a


"radar state" that is not thier primary means of


speed enforcement. Do the state police use


em sure do, but there are more towns and


municipalities than state police by a large


stretch hence it is not really a radar state...


Now go twisty some more words around since
you dont understand.



You invoke a PR department's marketing strategy and permit it to define
legalities for you,,,and tell another they don't understand the law.
Great show!


Dave Hall February 17th 05 04:35 PM

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 04:44:32 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:



But nowhere does it state that any grace is given when the speed
measuring device is mechanical or electrical, as per paragraph (1). So
if they are using a paragraph (1) device then they CAN bust you for
doing 56 in a 55 zone.


Yes, but none of the police that I'm aware of use any methods other
than ELECTRONIC means. RADAR and VASCAR, as well as the old tape
strips across the road (which have all but disappeared) are all
considered electronic devices.


Once again, you demonstrate, to people with normal comprehensive
ability, that you can't understand what you read. It's no wonder you
jump to the wrong conclusions over and over again in the scant 4 years
that you have been polluting this newsgroup. Your pattern of habitual
incomprehension is all the more apparent if one walks through Google
for a few minutes.


This is my last word on the subject.



Only because you have been proven wrong and you can't admit it.



Unless you can come up with a "mechanical" or simple electrical speed
measuring device in common use in Pa., then you can't prove that I'm
wrong. You are attempting to disprove the majority of cases, by citing
a small exception.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Frank Gilliland February 17th 05 04:58 PM

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:35:08 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote in :

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 04:44:32 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:



But nowhere does it state that any grace is given when the speed
measuring device is mechanical or electrical, as per paragraph (1). So
if they are using a paragraph (1) device then they CAN bust you for
doing 56 in a 55 zone.


Yes,



Then your statement was wrong. Apology accepted.


but



"but" nothing. You didn't qualify your statement until after is was
proven wrong. Changing your tune after getting caught doesn't negate
the fact that you were wrong and can't admit it.


none of the police that I'm aware of use any methods other
than ELECTRONIC means. RADAR and VASCAR, as well as the old tape
strips across the road (which have all but disappeared) are all
considered electronic devices.



So because -you- aren't aware of any such methods that means they
don't exist? Gee, another conclusion based on absense of proof.


Once again, you demonstrate, to people with normal comprehensive
ability, that you can't understand what you read. It's no wonder you
jump to the wrong conclusions over and over again in the scant 4 years
that you have been polluting this newsgroup. Your pattern of habitual
incomprehension is all the more apparent if one walks through Google
for a few minutes.


This is my last word on the subject.



Only because you have been proven wrong and you can't admit it.



Unless you can come up with a "mechanical" or simple electrical speed
measuring device in common use in Pa., then you can't prove that I'm
wrong. You are attempting to disprove the majority of cases, by citing
a small exception.



A car speedometer can be a mechanical device used for measuring speed.
And pacing a speeder is probably the simplest, easiest, most reliable
and most widely used method of catching speeders. That's hardly a
"small exception". And I'm sure that there are other devices that fall
into the category of paragraph (1) or they would have limited the
paragraph to just speedometers.






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Steveo February 17th 05 05:22 PM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214ABD6-877 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:

By whose definition? Yours? It's wrong.
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the state
is void of radar.


Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?

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Steveo February 17th 05 05:24 PM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in news:11821-4214AD53-
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Now you are back-pedaling with "Pa is not REALLY a radar state". LMAO,
Again,,if it was a non-radar state, radar would not be implemented by
the authorities. In fact, you are the only one I have ever heard ue the
term "non-radar" state when the state does in fact, use radar. Can you
cite a single source where you took this phrase from? Perhaps a link or
provide for it? Of course you can't, Dave, it;s why you are lending
support to yourself.


I took this right from a radar manufacturers meeting room, I was there.
Heard it first hand. If you are not on a state highway you will never
recieve a speeding ticket from radar? Why because Penns is not really a
radar enforcement state, it is not thier primary means of speed
enforcement. I am speaking of the state in general now go **** yourself
dave McCampbell

Is that why bird dogs are illegal in PA, the state owns that revenue?

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Dave Hall February 17th 05 06:27 PM

On 17 Feb 2005 17:22:50 GMT, Steveo wrote:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214ABD6-877 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:

By whose definition? Yours? It's wrong.
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the state
is void of radar.


Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?



Careful Steveo. Twisty thinks he's me......

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Steveo February 17th 05 06:29 PM

Dave Hall wrote:
On 17 Feb 2005 17:22:50 GMT, Steveo wrote:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214ABD6-877 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:

By whose definition? Yours? It's wrong.
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the
state is void of radar.

Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?


Careful Steveo. Twisty thinks he's me......

George posts as you.

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U Know Who February 17th 05 07:10 PM


"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge"
wrote in message ...
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in news:11821-4214AD53-
:

Now you are back-pedaling with "Pa is not REALLY a radar state". LMAO,
Again,,if it was a non-radar state, radar would not be implemented by
the authorities. In fact, you are the only one I have ever heard ue the
term "non-radar" state when the state does in fact, use radar. Can you
cite a single source where you took this phrase from? Perhaps a link or
provide for it? Of course you can't, Dave, it;s why you are lending
support to yourself.


I took this right from a radar manufacturers meeting room, I was there.



Staring down the waveguides and pushing the buttons.


Heard it first hand. If you are not on a state highway you will never
recieve a speeding ticket from radar? Why because Penns is not really a
radar enforcement state, it is not thier primary means of speed
enforcement. I am speaking of the state in general now go **** yourself
dave McCampbell




Steveo February 17th 05 07:48 PM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11822-4214B65C-63 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:

helicopter.



Called a bear-in-the-air. Of course, if you left the cave of despair
once every few years, you would be clued in.


Yeah, bear in the Air went out with the smokies in 1976 after the
realease of Convoy. so did traffic enforcement with helicopters.

Crash the gate doin' 98.

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Steveo February 17th 05 07:51 PM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:

Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania


Is that what you do for a living, George?


I am in a related field to the subject in question.

It seems like you're up to date on such things.

Thats why it is funny
as a fart in a space suit to watch twisty try to tell me what i mean and
what is reality all this from 1800 miles away.

In this case it's common sense. No gives a 1 mph speeding ticket, not
even in a school zone.

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Frank Gilliland February 17th 05 08:05 PM

On 17 Feb 2005 19:51:34 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:

Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania


Is that what you do for a living, George?


I am in a related field to the subject in question.

It seems like you're up to date on such things.

Thats why it is funny
as a fart in a space suit to watch twisty try to tell me what i mean and
what is reality all this from 1800 miles away.

In this case it's common sense. No gives a 1 mph speeding ticket, not
even in a school zone.



They do some smaller speed-traps here in WA. I can't remember if it
was Bellingham or Chelan, but one of those two towns has speed boards
in the school zones, and you better be driving -under- the speed limit
or they'll pull you over.





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Steveo February 17th 05 08:21 PM

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 17 Feb 2005 19:51:34 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:

Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?

I am in a related field to the subject in question.

It seems like you're up to date on such things.

Thats why it is funny
as a fart in a space suit to watch twisty try to tell me what i mean
and what is reality all this from 1800 miles away.

In this case it's common sense. No one gives a 1 mph speeding ticket,
not even in a school zone.


They do some smaller speed-traps here in WA. I can't remember if it
was Bellingham or Chelan, but one of those two towns has speed boards
in the school zones, and you better be driving -under- the speed limit
or they'll pull you over.

Man, I'd take a 1 mph speeding ticket to court every time, wouldn't you?

I'd lay odds on me getting it tossed, and the cop being bitched out
by the magistrate too.

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Frank Gilliland February 17th 05 08:35 PM

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:26:36 -0600, itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote in
:

Frank Gilliland wrote in
:

They do some smaller speed-traps here in WA. I can't remember if it
was Bellingham or Chelan, but one of those two towns has speed boards
in the school zones, and you better be driving -under- the speed limit
or they'll pull you over.



Frank do you mean the trailer type of speed board? or Pole mounted??
I can see a gung ho cop pulling you over in a school zone, they don't
need radar to pull you over. A trained officer can estimate your speed,
he get's what is called a tracking history where he visually sites you,
for a period of time then confirms this with the radar. As stated though
speeding tickets are almsot always pled down to non point related fine.
Most cops can write you for many things that will stick, 1 or 2 mph over
won't be one of them.



I don't know..... I've driven through a lot of small towns and some of
them are real anal about anyone breaking their local ordinances. Some
places even have signs under the speed limit marker saying "Strictly
Enforced", and around these parts that's usually the truth. Even
Spokane has "emphasis patrols" that they publicize on the news
-before- the fact just to give people warning, but they end up writing
gobs of tickets anyway. So as far as I'm concerned, if the speed limit
is 55 I'll stay below it so there won't be any doubt.






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Steveo February 17th 05 08:52 PM

Frank Gilliland wrote:
So as far as I'm concerned, if the speed limit
is 55 I'll stay below it so there won't be any doubt.

If you go ahead and do 58 Frank, I won't tell anyone. :)

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Steveo February 17th 05 09:07 PM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20050217155252.866
:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
So as far as I'm concerned, if the speed limit
is 55 I'll stay below it so there won't be any doubt.

If you go ahead and do 58 Frank, I won't tell anyone. :)


Posted by: Patrick on June 5, 2004 03:09 PM
C.A.

Would you agree that you are breaking the law if you exceed 70 mph on the
interstate?

Who dat?

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Landshark February 18th 05 04:24 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 17 Feb 2005 19:51:34 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:

Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?

I am in a related field to the subject in question.

It seems like you're up to date on such things.

Thats why it is funny
as a fart in a space suit to watch twisty try to tell me what i mean
and what is reality all this from 1800 miles away.

In this case it's common sense. No one gives a 1 mph speeding ticket,
not even in a school zone.


They do some smaller speed-traps here in WA. I can't remember if it
was Bellingham or Chelan, but one of those two towns has speed boards
in the school zones, and you better be driving -under- the speed limit
or they'll pull you over.

Man, I'd take a 1 mph speeding ticket to court every time, wouldn't you?

I'd lay odds on me getting it tossed, and the cop being bitched out
by the magistrate too.


Oh, it almost would be tossed, but how much time
did you spend? How much pay did you lose?
It all adds up, that's the reason an A-hole cop
would write you a ticket like that.

Landshark


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and speak; courage is also what it
takes to sit down and listen.



Landshark February 18th 05 04:24 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in news:11821-4214AD53-
:

Now you are back-pedaling with "Pa is not REALLY a radar state". LMAO,
Again,,if it was a non-radar state, radar would not be implemented by
the authorities. In fact, you are the only one I have ever heard ue the
term "non-radar" state when the state does in fact, use radar. Can you
cite a single source where you took this phrase from? Perhaps a link or
provide for it? Of course you can't, Dave, it;s why you are lending
support to yourself.


I took this right from a radar manufacturers meeting room, I was there.
Heard it first hand. If you are not on a state highway you will never
recieve a speeding ticket from radar? Why because Penns is not really a
radar enforcement state, it is not thier primary means of speed
enforcement. I am speaking of the state in general now go **** yourself
dave McCampbell

Is that why bird dogs are illegal in PA, the state owns that revenue?



LOL!!!

Landshark


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who are good natured.



Steveo February 18th 05 04:43 AM

"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 17 Feb 2005 19:51:34 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:

Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?

I am in a related field to the subject in question.

It seems like you're up to date on such things.

Thats why it is funny
as a fart in a space suit to watch twisty try to tell me what i
mean and what is reality all this from 1800 miles away.

In this case it's common sense. No one gives a 1 mph speeding ticket,
not even in a school zone.

They do some smaller speed-traps here in WA. I can't remember if it
was Bellingham or Chelan, but one of those two towns has speed boards
in the school zones, and you better be driving -under- the speed limit
or they'll pull you over.

Man, I'd take a 1 mph speeding ticket to court every time, wouldn't
you?

I'd lay odds on me getting it tossed, and the cop being bitched out
by the magistrate too.


Oh, it almost would be tossed, but how much time
did you spend? How much pay did you lose?
It all adds up, that's the reason an A-hole cop
would write you a ticket like that.

Landshark

I'll ask you the same question, Shark. Ever know anyone that's got
a 1 mph speeding ticket?

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Frank Gilliland February 18th 05 12:51 PM

On 17 Feb 2005 20:52:52 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
So as far as I'm concerned, if the speed limit
is 55 I'll stay below it so there won't be any doubt.

If you go ahead and do 58 Frank, I won't tell anyone. :)



Is that a "don't ask, don't tell" policy?






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Steveo February 18th 05 01:34 PM

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 17 Feb 2005 20:52:52 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
So as far as I'm concerned, if the speed limit
is 55 I'll stay below it so there won't be any doubt.

If you go ahead and do 58 Frank, I won't tell anyone. :)


Is that a "don't ask, don't tell" policy?

Yep, that's the ticket..err

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I AmnotGeorgeBush February 18th 05 02:40 PM

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On 17 Feb 2005 17:22:50 GMT, Steveo wrote:
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214ABD6-877 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:
By whose definition? Yours? It's wrong.

A non-radar state would mean just what the


phrase connotates: the state is void of radar.


(Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania)


LOL..invoking a marketiing ploy and citing it as a source of reference
for the law is entertaining, nothing more.

(Is that what you do for a living, George? )

Careful Steveo. Twisty thinks he's me......




Yep, right after "Geo" forged you and said you gave him permission to
do so in email in order to pollute the group. I am not the first to note
your behavior outside this group hinges on myself. You need a real life,
David.

David T. Hall Jr.


N3CVJ


"Sandbagger"



I AmnotGeorgeBush February 18th 05 02:43 PM

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(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
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helicopter.
Called a bear-in-the-air. Of course, if you left the cave of despair
once every few years, you would be clued in.

Yeah, bear in the Air went out with the


smokies in 1976 after the realease of Convoy.


so did traffic enforcement with helicopters.



Just like David Hall Jr., you are stuck in a time warp. Your ignorance
is limited by your own personal experiences.


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Steveo wrote in news:20050217132915.019
:
Dave Hall wrote:
On 17 Feb 2005 17:22:50 GMT, Steveo wrote:
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214ABD6-877 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:
Pa is a non-radar state


By whose definition? Yours? It's wrong.
A non-radar state would mean just what the
phrase connotates: the state is void of radar.

Mine and any company who proposes to sell


radar to Pennsylvania



So you not only cite a marketing team as your reference to the law, you
insist on it remaining as such.

(Is that what you do for a living, George?)

Careful Steveo. Twisty thinks he's me......


(shrug) You said yourself and David T. Hall Jr. conspired in email for
you to forge him in this group, in order to have me think you are he. In
addition to affirming how much I lord over you each of you, it also
illustrates the both of you will use the group as your own personal
toilet as a means to harass.

(George posts as you. )

Only after tipsy called me Dave,



That's no jusification. You called Frank me before any of this took
place. Hypocrite.

so lets see who am


Both of you are blights to amateur radio.


I AmnotGeorgeBush February 18th 05 03:01 PM

From: (Steveo)
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:
Is that what you do for a living, George?


(I am in a related field to the subject in
question. )

It seems like you're up to date on such things.


(Thats why it is funny
as a fart in a space suit to watch twisty try to tell me what i mean and
what is reality all this from 1800 miles away. )

In this case it's common sense. No gives a 1


mph speeding ticket, not even in a school


zone.




I dunno know about that. From what I can read, it's called "Zero
Tolerance" and has been practiced in just about each state at one time
or another. I found several articles referencing it in California on the
very first search, especially San Francisco to Reno.
Also, check out Waldo or Lawtey in Florida along with Speedtrap on
google. They are the nations only designated speed traps by AAA AND ABC
National News. Peter Jennings did a story, as did numerous other
media....check it out. Waldo most certainly hands tickets out for what
you would THINK is ridiculous speeds. But wait.....the majority of those
ticketed are out of state drivers, as 301 is a main artery for vehicles
from 95 coming to the west coast of Florida. So when the ticket is
received,,your ONLY recourse, is coming back to Florida to fight the
ticket in this back, jerkwater town, or paying it. Care to guess what
happens in just about every single ticket ever written in this town?
Lawtey is the same way.


I AmnotGeorgeBush February 18th 05 03:03 PM

From: (Steveo)
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the state
is void of radar.
Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?


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helicopter.
Called a bear-in-the-air. Of course, if you left the cave of despair
once every few years, you would be clued in.

Yeah, bear in the Air went out with the


smokies in 1976 after the realease of Convoy.


so did traffic enforcement with helicopters.



Just like David Hall Jr., you are stuck in a time warp. Your ignorance
is limited by your own personal experiences.


Wait, I thought he WAS me?

Make up your "mind".

Dave
"Sandbagger"




Dave Hall February 18th 05 05:49 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:40:43 -0500, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

From:
(Dave*Hall)
On 17 Feb 2005 17:22:50 GMT, Steveo wrote:
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214ABD6-877 @storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net:
By whose definition? Yours? It's wrong.

A non-radar state would mean just what the


phrase connotates: the state is void of radar.


(Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania)


LOL..invoking a marketiing ploy and citing it as a source of reference
for the law is entertaining, nothing more.

(Is that what you do for a living, George? )

Careful Steveo. Twisty thinks he's me......




Yep, right after "Geo" forged you and said you gave him permission to
do so in email in order to pollute the group.


I didn't give him "permission" He told me about it after the fact as a
courtesy. But I didn't have a problem with it. Watching you chase your
tail trying to figure out who is really who is entertaining enough.


I am not the first to note
your behavior outside this group hinges on myself.


How would you (or anyone else here for that matter) know anything
about my behavior outside this group?

More self aggrandizing.


You need a real life, David.


I have one. And you're consumed with it.

So who else am I today?

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

Dave Hall February 18th 05 05:53 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:01:07 -0500, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

(Thats why it is funny
as a fart in a space suit to watch twisty try to tell me what i mean and
what is reality all this from 1800 miles away. )

In this case it's common sense. No gives a 1


mph speeding ticket, not even in a school


zone.




I dunno know about that. From what I can read, it's called "Zero
Tolerance" and has been practiced in just about each state at one time
or another.


That may be true in many states (Like I said, I believe Maryland is
one) but not, as a rule, in Pa..

the presence of 3368 (c)(4) pretty much negates any notion of "Zero
Tolerance". Zero Tolerance is exactly that. There would be ZERO
exceptions.

Dave
"Sandbagger"



Dave Hall February 18th 05 05:54 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:03:41 -0500, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

From:
(Steveo)
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the state
is void of radar.
Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?


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Geo works the batting cages at Chuckie Cheese?


No, I do that. Er....... yeh....

Dave
"Sandbagger"

[email protected] February 18th 05 09:43 PM

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From:
(Steveo)
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:
Is that what you do for a living, George?


(I am in a related field to the subject in
question. )

It seems like you're up to date on such things.


(Thats why it is funny
as a fart in a space suit to watch twisty try to tell me what i mean and
what is reality all this from 1800 miles away. )

In this case it's common sense. No gives a 1


mph speeding ticket, not even in a school


zone.


I dunno know about that.

Get in line for this question, Twist. Ever know anyone that got
a 1mph speeding ticket?

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[email protected] February 18th 05 09:51 PM

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From:
(Steveo)
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the state
is void of radar.
Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania

Is that what you do for a living, George?


Geo works the batting cages at Chuckie Cheese?

D'oh! Pizza time theater.

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Steveo February 18th 05 10:15 PM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Another Bold face Lie I never siad Dave gave me permission to do so, I
told you I emailed him and told him what I was doing. Your obvously
desperate to lie like you do.

will you email and tell me before you use my name in your posts again?

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Steveo February 18th 05 11:21 PM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20050218171541.744
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Another Bold face Lie I never siad Dave gave me permission to do so, I
told you I emailed him and told him what I was doing. Your obvously
desperate to lie like you do.

will you email and tell me before you use my name in your posts again?


No why dont you grow some balls i will tell you to your face... show up

I'll be in Dayton for two days in May. C'mon down for some real
hospitality. You'll enjoy the hillbillies that are going with me too. g

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I AmnotGeorgeBush February 19th 05 01:38 AM

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(I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From:
(Dave=A0Hall)
On 17 Feb 2005 17:22:50 GMT, Steveo wrote:
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:11820-4214ABD6-877:
By whose standards?
A non-radar state would mean just what the phrase connotates: the state
is void of radar.

(Mine and any company who proposes to sell radar to Pennsylvania)

LOL..invoking a marketiing ploy and citing it as a source of reference
for the law is entertaining, nothing more.

(Is that what you do for a living, George? )

Careful Steveo. Twisty thinks he's me......


Yep, right after "Geo" forged you and said you gave him permission to do
so in email in order to pollute the group.

I didn't give him "permission" He told me about


it after the fact as a courtesy.



You really don't have to explain yourself for my benefit, as it is you
who is always struggling to redefine just what you meant to everyone,
*after* you post something.


But I didn't have a problem with it.


And yet another electronic publishing of such a fact.

Watching you chase your tail trying to figure


out who is really who is entertaining enough.


I am not the first to note
your behavior outside this group hinges on myself.

How would you (or anyone else here for that


matter) know anything about my behavior


outside this group?


Statistical probability.
Geo just told us about the email. Email is outside this group.

More self aggrandizing.


You're just mad because without the dx, I am more legal than yourself.
You need a real life, David.

I have one.


Yet, you somehow feel compelled to tell the world how you consider
peering into the personal lives of select usenet participants and making
such your topic of choice in unrelated groups, a "hobby" of yours. The
all-mesmerizing portion of such a claim, is in reality, you misinterpret
such behavior as having a life.


who am I today?


The same person who has been shown he was wrong by the entire group, at
one time or another. Most recently by myself, Frank, Bert Craig,
Sideband, Landshark, and probably a few more I missed right off the top
of your pointed little head.

David T. Hall Jr,


N3CVJ


"Sandbagger"


http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj


I AmnotGeorgeBush February 19th 05 02:12 AM

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So you not only cite a marketing team as your reference to the law, you
insist on it remaining as such.

I did not reference any marketing team's,



Is your memory that poor? You invoked an un-named company that has a
financial interest in marketing their product as an answer to my inquiry
as to WHO told you that Pa. was a non-radar state, as you have claimed.
If the PR department of that company didn't come up with the term and
defninition, just what part of the company would you hazard, did? The
janitor?

nor was my reference regarding any law.



As long as we understand each other that your un-named company applying
their own definition to a "non-radar state" to include a state that
indeed utilizes radar, is but a single person's opinion.

It was a general comment and statement that


is known throught the industry,



I can accept the term is prevalent, but the definition can not
encompasses states who do employ radar, no matter who claims it.


Pa is not really a radar state, now you can sit


here and try to decipher my meaning.



Ha,,,now, it's not "really" a radar state.
Off you go now, to redefine what you "really' meant when you said "Pa is
not a radar state."


You are a nobody, ur opinion and what you


say doesn't matter.


Tut-tut,,get over your personal anger that is the cause of so much vile
and venom spewing forth from your thrashed psyche and twisted soul.

I have spoken with more Leo agencies and


people in the field who know what is what,



Your personal experiences are irrelavant.

you on the other hand is a usenet blowhard


who's only goal is to get under peoples skin


with your assinine replies.


My goodness, coming from one who has called each and every participant
in this group (except, for David T. Hall, Jr, of course) a homosexual at
one time or another, your thoughts and warm wishes will certainly be
filed appropriately.


So how many more times will you call me


dave Hall?


How many more times will you forge him?

you dumb jackass.


The mother issue has you beside yourself.


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(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in news:11821-4214AD53-
:
From:
pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
news:6288-4213CF9E-244 @storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net: most towns dont
even have them
Gee,,,that's because only State Cops are permitted to have them in Pa.

Gee, then that makes pennsy not really a


radar state



Here you are redefining what you "really" meant. Now you are
back-pedaling with "Pa is not REALLY a radar state". LMAO, Again,,if it
was a non-radar state, radar would not be implemented by the
authorities. In fact, you are the only one I have ever heard ue the term
"non-radar" state when the state does in fact, use radar. Can you cite a
single source where you took this phrase from? Perhaps a link or provide
for it?

Any idea how many tropers and police officers
are in Pa, Ill bet one county in Florida alone


has more radar than the whole state of PA.


The Department has about 540 Decatur


Genesis Handheld radar units. The


Department also has about 250 other radar


units made by a different manufacturer.


http://www.psp.state.pa.us/psp/cwp/view.asp?

A=3D3&Q=3D172084&tx=3D1



Absent is a date, or a reference to what department...it could be a
single state polic department in any number of counties in Pa..but as an
always trusting type guy, I'll go ahead and give you the benefit of the
doubt and assume (against my better judgement) that the entire state
police department of Pa has only the amount of radar detectors you
claim. One would also assume, the department feels it adequate for the
amount of roads they must cover, or they would have more, with all the
money being poured into the coffers of domestic agencies, post-911. It
all boils down to the state police department being equipped with radar,
which results in claiming "Pa is a non-radar state", being incorrect.
Now, surely you aren't going to invoke the (limited?) number of radar
units in the state, as the criteria for determining your definition of
a non-radar state,this late in the thread, are you? David T. Hall Jr.
did the same exact thing when it was demonstrated he fails to abide by
his own invoked criteria for determining what he holds as a federal
criminal. Then again, several people have illustrated his failure to
hold himself to his own standards.


Steveo February 19th 05 03:13 AM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20050218171541.744
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Another Bold face Lie I never siad Dave gave me permission to do
so, I told you I emailed him and told him what I was doing. Your
obvously desperate to lie like you do.

will you email and tell me before you use my name in your posts
again?

No why dont you grow some balls i will tell you to your face... show
up

I'll be in Dayton for two days in May. C'mon down for some real
hospitality. You'll enjoy the hillbillies that are going with me too.
g


Yeah your wife and kids are kinda fugly I hear.

Come on to the Buckeye in May. I'll buy you a beer at my campsite
of you don't act a fool.

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Steveo February 19th 05 03:36 AM

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20050218221355.367
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Steveo wrote in
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge


wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20050218171541.744
:

itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote:
Another Bold face Lie I never siad Dave gave me permission to do
so, I told you I emailed him and told him what I was doing. Your
obvously desperate to lie like you do.

will you email and tell me before you use my name in your posts
again?

No why dont you grow some balls i will tell you to your face...

show
up

I'll be in Dayton for two days in May. C'mon down for some real
hospitality. You'll enjoy the hillbillies that are going with me

too.
g

Yeah your wife and kids are kinda fugly I hear.

Come on to the Buckeye in May. I'll buy you a beer at my campsite
of you don't act a fool.


Nah sorry Steve I see how you really are, and how you act the fool.

Well..we all know you'd never have the nerve to actually show up
anyway. Thanks for the laffs.

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