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Dave Hall February 21st 05 02:06 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 21:37:41 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:01:31 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 04:51:23 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:26:14 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote in :

snip
Holy crap, that might have done it. While I did not spreak the coil, it appeared
to be pushed or slanted to one side. I just straightened it out a bit. Seems to
work. Will still do alignment. I will get back to you !


That should stroke Dave's ego a little bit -- he needs it right about
now.


No need. I am confident in my abilities. My past accomplishments tell
the story. Insecurity is not one of my foibles.



I'll be damned. Rogerbird was right. I added a mica insulator between the final
and heatsink, with the heatsink compound. It worked. At first, I thought Jim was
right. But the problem reoccured. I am still going to bias it.


There are a combination of "things" which can cause, or add to, the
oscillation. Moving the coil, isolating the final, and changing the
bias are all things that reduce the potential.

I'm glad it worked. Keep an eye on it, though as it might just be on
the hairy edge and could come back.

Dave

Dave Hall February 21st 05 02:09 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 16:41:19 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 04:51:23 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:26:14 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote in :

snip
Holy crap, that might have done it. While I did not spreak the coil, it appeared
to be pushed or slanted to one side. I just straightened it out a bit. Seems to
work. Will still do alignment. I will get back to you !



That should stroke Dave's ego a little bit -- he needs it right about
now.



Frank, I have nothing against you or Dave. Dave has helped me quite a lot. I
appreciate that, who ever the person is that helps me.

But I would like to point out one thing. There in an underlying feeling in this
group, that there is some sort of prize, if you know more than someone. Almost
like there is a contest to one up someone else. I just don't get it. Are people
that insecure? With a couple of killfiles, I have cleaned most of the garbage of
this group. I don't kill file you or anyone, that can be informative or helpful.
Regardless of what side of the line you fall on.

But this is a perfect example. Dave did nothing but try to solve a problem for
me, and you take a swipe at him. Maybe you know more than him, or maybe he knows
more than you. But once you leave the area of the keyboard, who the hell really
cares? Does you wife care, do you friends care? Probably not. So why is it so
important that everyone here knows?


It's a matter of ego, saving face, and pride.

Hell, I never professed to "know all". I've learned in life that no
matter how strong you are, no matter how smart you are, no matter how
cool you are, there will always be someone stronger, smarter, or
cooler.

This is not a contest for me. All I want to do is offer help when and
where I can. I do find it curious when others attack my suggestions.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Dave Hall February 21st 05 02:26 PM

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:13:31 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

Frank, I have nothing against you or Dave. Dave has helped me quite a lot. I
appreciate that, who ever the person is that helps me.



Then let me stop you right there. Dave does know his CB radios, and he
knows them a lot better than most people in this group, including (and
especially) myself.


Thanks for the flowers (i think). But if you really felt that way, why
are you intently arguing with me about my experience with the UPD 858
SSB chassis radios, based on nothing more than a single service
manual?


Now I should apologize because it was not my intent to attack you.
Dave was my target.


That much was obvious. Why I should be anyone's "target" sheds light
on their true motives.

In case you haven't noticed already, a lot of
people in this group are basically full of ****, regardless of how
much they know or don't know about radio. I can see why that happens
because it's easy for geeks, nerds and social misfits to make up
imaginary lives while hiding behind a keyboard.



No one is exempt from that. The ones with the most imaginary lives are
also the same ones who hide behind anonymous pseudonyms.


But once in a while a
person like Dave gets to thinking that he is some sort of alpha male,
sometimes manifested as a delusion of intellectual superiority just
like you describe.


Let's address this curious accusation. First off, I do have some
"seniority" on this group, so I have been around for a while. But that
alone does not mean anything. But you are right, alot of people here
are full of crap, and try to promote "CB science" radio myths. I try
to set them straight. If that makes me an "alpha male", then it
applies to you as well, as you've done the same thing. So is what
you're saying essentially, is that you are now challenging my position
as "alpha male", by utilizing a more aggressive form of the same
traits you attribute to me?

Remember, YOU made this personal. Anytime you want to stop your silly
crusade against me and attacking every point I make on various
threads, I can resume some form of civility with you.


The response he receives is nothing more than a
normal societal reaction to put him back in his place.


And what "place" is that?

Either he gets
the message and starts behaving himself


"Behave myself"? In what way have I ever "misbehaved? Disagreeing with
your political ideology doesn't count.


(which rarely happens), bails
from the newsgroup in shame (like so many have done in recent years),
or goes insane and becomes a troll (which is why you will see heavy
trolling here from time to time). My problem with Dave will probably
end soon because a person can only make up so many excuses when the
facts remain the same.


Yep, you can only repeat the same tired excuses that you "have the
facts" for only so long before you get placed back on the discount
rack.

The facts are that you are chasing me. I'm not chasing you.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Vinnie S. February 21st 05 02:50 PM

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:06:32 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


I'll be damned. Rogerbird was right. I added a mica insulator between the final
and heatsink, with the heatsink compound. It worked. At first, I thought Jim was
right. But the problem reoccured. I am still going to bias it.


There are a combination of "things" which can cause, or add to, the
oscillation. Moving the coil, isolating the final, and changing the
bias are all things that reduce the potential.

I'm glad it worked. Keep an eye on it, though as it might just be on
the hairy edge and could come back.

Dave



One other thing can cause. Seems when I had it connected to a dummy load, or in
my car to the amp, it didn't happened. Which means a perfect match eliminated
the problem. So high SWR can cause it. Even though mine was about 1.3-1.5 across
the band.

Can't wait to get that IMAX in the trees.

Vinnie S.

Frank Gilliland February 21st 05 03:03 PM

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:26:35 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote in :

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:13:31 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

Frank, I have nothing against you or Dave. Dave has helped me quite a lot. I
appreciate that, who ever the person is that helps me.



Then let me stop you right there. Dave does know his CB radios, and he
knows them a lot better than most people in this group, including (and
especially) myself.


Thanks for the flowers (i think). But if you really felt that way, why
are you intently arguing with me about my experience with the UPD 858
SSB chassis radios, based on nothing more than a single service
manual?



I said you know your CB radios. I didn't say you know the theory
behind their function. Everything you have said so far proves that, in
fact, you don't.


Now I should apologize because it was not my intent to attack you.
Dave was my target.


That much was obvious. Why I should be anyone's "target" sheds light
on their true motives.



I agree. Which explains why you jumped my **** when I criticized Bush.


In case you haven't noticed already, a lot of
people in this group are basically full of ****, regardless of how
much they know or don't know about radio. I can see why that happens
because it's easy for geeks, nerds and social misfits to make up
imaginary lives while hiding behind a keyboard.



No one is exempt from that. The ones with the most imaginary lives are
also the same ones who hide behind anonymous pseudonyms.



I won't speculate on how elaborate these people are with their lies.
Suffice it to say that such people exist in abundance.


But once in a while a
person like Dave gets to thinking that he is some sort of alpha male,
sometimes manifested as a delusion of intellectual superiority just
like you describe.


Let's address this curious accusation. First off, I do have some
"seniority" on this group, so I have been around for a while. But that
alone does not mean anything.



It doesn't mean anything -- period.


But you are right, alot of people here
are full of crap, and try to promote "CB science" radio myths. I try
to set them straight. If that makes me an "alpha male", then it
applies to you as well, as you've done the same thing. So is what
you're saying essentially, is that you are now challenging my position
as "alpha male", by utilizing a more aggressive form of the same
traits you attribute to me?



Hardly, and I can prove it by merely proposing that we take this to
email. But I have already made that proposal and you rejected it.


Remember, YOU made this personal.



WRONG. I made some comments about Bush that -YOU- took personally,
which is where this all started.


Anytime you want to stop your silly
crusade against me and attacking every point I make on various
threads, I can resume some form of civility with you.



But I -don't- attack every point you make, Dave. I attack only the
points that are in direct contradiction to the claim that you base
your conclusions on facts and logic.


The response he receives is nothing more than a
normal societal reaction to put him back in his place.


And what "place" is that?



As one of the more intellectual people on this group.


Either he gets
the message and starts behaving himself


"Behave myself"? In what way have I ever "misbehaved? Disagreeing with
your political ideology doesn't count.



You misbehaved when you started practicing fallacious logic and
disregarding indepentantly verifiable facts in favor of your "core
beliefs".


(which rarely happens), bails
from the newsgroup in shame (like so many have done in recent years),
or goes insane and becomes a troll (which is why you will see heavy
trolling here from time to time). My problem with Dave will probably
end soon because a person can only make up so many excuses when the
facts remain the same.


Yep, you can only repeat the same tired excuses that you "have the
facts" for only so long before you get placed back on the discount
rack.



Which is exactly what the prevalent social order did to Galileo,
Columbus, Aristotle, and a host of other people who -did- have the
facts but were dismissed in favor of "core beliefs".


The facts are that you are chasing me. I'm not chasing you.



Because it's my "core belief" that you really -are- intelligent, and
unless someone challenges that intelligence you will just ignore it
(like you ignore facts and logic) until your gray matter falls into
disrepair. That would be a waste, IMHO.





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Dave Hall February 22nd 05 01:09 PM

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:03:18 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:26:35 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote in :

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:13:31 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

Frank, I have nothing against you or Dave. Dave has helped me quite a lot. I
appreciate that, who ever the person is that helps me.


Then let me stop you right there. Dave does know his CB radios, and he
knows them a lot better than most people in this group, including (and
especially) myself.


Thanks for the flowers (i think). But if you really felt that way, why
are you intently arguing with me about my experience with the UPD 858
SSB chassis radios, based on nothing more than a single service
manual?



I said you know your CB radios. I didn't say you know the theory
behind their function. Everything you have said so far proves that, in
fact, you don't.


A conclusion that is yours alone. My reputation and experience speaks
for itself in this arena.


Now I should apologize because it was not my intent to attack you.
Dave was my target.


That much was obvious. Why I should be anyone's "target" sheds light
on their true motives.



I agree. Which explains why you jumped my **** when I criticized Bush.


Is that what you think? You need to go back and seriously re-read that
stuff again. Yes, I disagreed with you, but it wasn't a malicious
personal attack followed by a vendetta of smear.


But once in a while a
person like Dave gets to thinking that he is some sort of alpha male,
sometimes manifested as a delusion of intellectual superiority just
like you describe.


Let's address this curious accusation. First off, I do have some
"seniority" on this group, so I have been around for a while. But that
alone does not mean anything.



It doesn't mean anything -- period.


But you are right, alot of people here
are full of crap, and try to promote "CB science" radio myths. I try
to set them straight. If that makes me an "alpha male", then it
applies to you as well, as you've done the same thing. So is what
you're saying essentially, is that you are now challenging my position
as "alpha male", by utilizing a more aggressive form of the same
traits you attribute to me?



Hardly, and I can prove it by merely proposing that we take this to
email. But I have already made that proposal and you rejected it.


When? Besides, I told you before, there's nothing you can tell me that
you haven't already littered this group with. Most of it is B.S. left
wing, "hate-Bush-at-all-counts" propaganda.


Remember, YOU made this personal.



WRONG. I made some comments about Bush that -YOU- took personally,
which is where this all started.


No, I'm not the one chasing you and interjecting berating comments and
attempting to make hay of the simplest statements. YOU took it
personally and have been chasing me since.


Anytime you want to stop your silly
crusade against me and attacking every point I make on various
threads, I can resume some form of civility with you.



But I -don't- attack every point you make, Dave. I attack only the
points that are in direct contradiction to the claim that you base
your conclusions on facts and logic.


Which is most things. I also use statistics and probability.


The response he receives is nothing more than a
normal societal reaction to put him back in his place.


And what "place" is that?



As one of the more intellectual people on this group.


As defined by whom?


Either he gets
the message and starts behaving himself


"Behave myself"? In what way have I ever "misbehaved? Disagreeing with
your political ideology doesn't count.



You misbehaved when you started practicing fallacious logic and
disregarding indepentantly verifiable facts in favor of your "core
beliefs".


In your opinion. But in any case, how is that any different from
anyone else here?


Which is exactly what the prevalent social order did to Galileo,
Columbus, Aristotle, and a host of other people who -did- have the
facts but were dismissed in favor of "core beliefs".


Without principles, you have nothing.



The facts are that you are chasing me. I'm not chasing you.



Because it's my "core belief" that you really -are- intelligent, and
unless someone challenges that intelligence you will just ignore it
(like you ignore facts and logic) until your gray matter falls into
disrepair. That would be a waste, IMHO.


It's not your job to be my nanny, so stop applying for the job, and
get back to the one you supposedly have.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

I AmnotGeorgeBush February 22nd 05 03:36 PM

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:13:31 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
(Now I should apologize because it was not my intent to attack you. Dave
was my target.)

That much was obvious. Why I should be


anyone's "target" sheds light on their true


motives.


Yet, admittedly, you make other poster's personal lives -your- admitted
target. Just like everyone told you were wrong regarding your position
on roger beep legalities, more and more are recognizing and calling you
on your blatant hypocrisy.
..

David T. Hall Jr.


N3CVJ



Frank Gilliland February 22nd 05 05:03 PM

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:09:44 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote in :

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:03:18 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:26:35 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote in :

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:13:31 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

Frank, I have nothing against you or Dave. Dave has helped me quite a lot. I
appreciate that, who ever the person is that helps me.


Then let me stop you right there. Dave does know his CB radios, and he
knows them a lot better than most people in this group, including (and
especially) myself.

Thanks for the flowers (i think). But if you really felt that way, why
are you intently arguing with me about my experience with the UPD 858
SSB chassis radios, based on nothing more than a single service
manual?



I said you know your CB radios. I didn't say you know the theory
behind their function. Everything you have said so far proves that, in
fact, you don't.


A conclusion that is yours alone. My reputation and experience speaks
for itself in this arena.



Your reputation is that you are familiar with radio mods. Your
experience reflects only your reputation, and seriously detracts from
any claims about your education.


Now I should apologize because it was not my intent to attack you.
Dave was my target.

That much was obvious. Why I should be anyone's "target" sheds light
on their true motives.



I agree. Which explains why you jumped my **** when I criticized Bush.


Is that what you think? You need to go back and seriously re-read that
stuff again. Yes, I disagreed with you, but it wasn't a malicious
personal attack followed by a vendetta of smear.



Not at first. But after a few civilized posts you started implying
that I was some sort of left-wing fanatic, culminating in a blatant
accusation that I was a half-baked, fully-biased liberal. And by your
own admission about what you think about left-wingers and liberals,
that was most definately a smear. You started it, Dave -- don't go
putting the blame on me just because you have a warped perspective.


But once in a while a
person like Dave gets to thinking that he is some sort of alpha male,
sometimes manifested as a delusion of intellectual superiority just
like you describe.

Let's address this curious accusation. First off, I do have some
"seniority" on this group, so I have been around for a while. But that
alone does not mean anything.



It doesn't mean anything -- period.


But you are right, alot of people here
are full of crap, and try to promote "CB science" radio myths. I try
to set them straight. If that makes me an "alpha male", then it
applies to you as well, as you've done the same thing. So is what
you're saying essentially, is that you are now challenging my position
as "alpha male", by utilizing a more aggressive form of the same
traits you attribute to me?



Hardly, and I can prove it by merely proposing that we take this to
email. But I have already made that proposal and you rejected it.


When?



When you said, "I have no need or desire to take this to E-mail."


Besides, I told you before, there's nothing you can tell me that
you haven't already littered this group with. Most of it is B.S. left
wing, "hate-Bush-at-all-counts" propaganda.



Yet I have said good things about Bush. Has your memory been distorted
by your "core beliefs"?


Remember, YOU made this personal.



WRONG. I made some comments about Bush that -YOU- took personally,
which is where this all started.


No, I'm not the one chasing you and interjecting berating comments and
attempting to make hay of the simplest statements. YOU took it
personally and have been chasing me since.



It takes two to tango, Dave. If you didn't have something to prove (or
defend), then why bother to reply to my posts? If your "facts" were
indeed facts then they could stand on their own merit. But they aren't
facts at all, hence your need to watch over them like a house of cards
and defend them against every little puff of smoke I blow in their
direction.


Anytime you want to stop your silly
crusade against me and attacking every point I make on various
threads, I can resume some form of civility with you.



But I -don't- attack every point you make, Dave. I attack only the
points that are in direct contradiction to the claim that you base
your conclusions on facts and logic.


Which is most things.



You said it, Dave! LOL!


I also use statistics and probability.



So do I, but not when facts and logic best define the truth. And
unlike you, I -don't- use stats or probability to disuade -against-
facts and logic.


The response he receives is nothing more than a
normal societal reaction to put him back in his place.

And what "place" is that?



As one of the more intellectual people on this group.


As defined by whom?



By me. It's clear that you are quite intelligent. It's a shame you
abuse it so much because you could really make a difference in the
world if you could use your brains instead of abusing them.


Either he gets
the message and starts behaving himself

"Behave myself"? In what way have I ever "misbehaved? Disagreeing with
your political ideology doesn't count.



You misbehaved when you started practicing fallacious logic and
disregarding indepentantly verifiable facts in favor of your "core
beliefs".


In your opinion.



Your logical fallacies are not subject to opinion, Dave. They are
documented fact.


But in any case, how is that any different from
anyone else here?



Because you are more intelligent than most, which means you are held
to a higher standard. Was this not explained to you when you were a
child?


Which is exactly what the prevalent social order did to Galileo,
Columbus, Aristotle, and a host of other people who -did- have the
facts but were dismissed in favor of "core beliefs".


Without principles, you have nothing.



You have mighty warped principles if any of their precepts is to
conceal truth.


The facts are that you are chasing me. I'm not chasing you.



Because it's my "core belief" that you really -are- intelligent, and
unless someone challenges that intelligence you will just ignore it
(like you ignore facts and logic) until your gray matter falls into
disrepair. That would be a waste, IMHO.


It's not your job to be my nanny, so stop applying for the job, and
get back to the one you supposedly have.



But you -like- it, Dave. If you didn't you wouldn't be responding to
my every post. I provide you with mental challenges, which are
evidently missing from your off-line life. There's no shame in
admitting that life is really friggin boring when you're smart. You
just have to get past the overcompensated ego thing and you'll be all
set for some -real- challenges!





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Dave Hall February 23rd 05 02:01 PM

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:03:13 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

I said you know your CB radios. I didn't say you know the theory
behind their function. Everything you have said so far proves that, in
fact, you don't.


A conclusion that is yours alone. My reputation and experience speaks
for itself in this arena.



Your reputation is that you are familiar with radio mods. Your
experience reflects only your reputation, and seriously detracts from
any claims about your education.


Actually, mods are not my area of expertise. I did mods for people
willing to pay for them. Personally I like to keep a radio basically
stock. My expertise, though, is in the area of repair. I would get the
radios that the other techs gave up on, or the ones that people
hopelessly butchered in a vain attempt at making a few more watts.


Now I should apologize because it was not my intent to attack you.
Dave was my target.

That much was obvious. Why I should be anyone's "target" sheds light
on their true motives.


I agree. Which explains why you jumped my **** when I criticized Bush.


Is that what you think? You need to go back and seriously re-read that
stuff again. Yes, I disagreed with you, but it wasn't a malicious
personal attack followed by a vendetta of smear.



Not at first. But after a few civilized posts you started implying
that I was some sort of left-wing fanatic, culminating in a blatant
accusation that I was a half-baked, fully-biased liberal.


I asked you if you were a liberal, which you initially never denied,
and beat around the bush about. When I pressed you hard for a
straight-up answer, you then denied it. But it wasn't an easy answer.

And by your
own admission about what you think about left-wingers and liberals,
that was most definately a smear.


I feel that liberals are extremely naive, idealistic, and misguided.
But only if applies to you should you find it offensive and a "smear".


You started it, Dave


No, I didn't.


Hardly, and I can prove it by merely proposing that we take this to
email. But I have already made that proposal and you rejected it.


When?



When you said, "I have no need or desire to take this to E-mail."


Which was only a day or so ago. What's your excuse for the last 3
months?


Remember, YOU made this personal.


WRONG. I made some comments about Bush that -YOU- took personally,
which is where this all started.


No, I'm not the one chasing you and interjecting berating comments and
attempting to make hay of the simplest statements. YOU took it
personally and have been chasing me since.



It takes two to tango, Dave.


Remember that Frank.

If you didn't have something to prove (or
defend), then why bother to reply to my posts?


I can ask you the exact same thing Frank. That's the really hilarious
part of all this. You can't see your role as the flip side of the same
coin, and equally culpable.


If your "facts" were
indeed facts then they could stand on their own merit. But they aren't
facts at all, hence your need to watch over them like a house of cards
and defend them against every little puff of smoke I blow in their
direction.


A good choice of words. "Smoke" is about all that you can blow in my
direction.


I also use statistics and probability.



So do I, but not when facts and logic best define the truth. And
unlike you, I -don't- use stats or probability to disuade -against-
facts and logic.


The logical process is beyond reproach. You cannot argue with a
logical conclusion based on a solid set of premises. But what I
question, and use other methods to validate, are the likelihood that
those premises are faulty.



The response he receives is nothing more than a
normal societal reaction to put him back in his place.

And what "place" is that?


As one of the more intellectual people on this group.


As defined by whom?



By me. It's clear that you are quite intelligent. It's a shame you
abuse it so much because you could really make a difference in the
world if you could use your brains instead of abusing them.


And you called ME ego driven "Alpha Male"?



Either he gets
the message and starts behaving himself

"Behave myself"? In what way have I ever "misbehaved? Disagreeing with
your political ideology doesn't count.


You misbehaved when you started practicing fallacious logic and
disregarding indepentantly verifiable facts in favor of your "core
beliefs".


In your opinion.



Your logical fallacies are not subject to opinion, Dave. They are
documented fact.


Frank, you have made your share of fallacies as well. The truth by
repetition, bifurcation, denial of the antecedent, are what comes to
mind. But I'm not really keeping score.

That this constitutes "misbehaving" is a matter for debate


Because you are more intelligent than most, which means you are held
to a higher standard.


Really? Again, who are you (alpha male) to be placing yourself in a
position to make that judgement?

Was this not explained to you when you were a
child?


No. The only people held to higher standards are those who are in the
public eye, are paid to perform a service which requires a higher
standard, or those who are recognized as leaders in one vocation or
another. I fall into none of those categories.



The facts are that you are chasing me. I'm not chasing you.


Because it's my "core belief" that you really -are- intelligent, and
unless someone challenges that intelligence you will just ignore it
(like you ignore facts and logic) until your gray matter falls into
disrepair. That would be a waste, IMHO.


Thank you for your concern, but I have more than my share of
"challenges", that I'm paid for. This is recreation for me.


It's not your job to be my nanny, so stop applying for the job, and
get back to the one you supposedly have.



But you -like- it, Dave. If you didn't you wouldn't be responding to
my every post.


I guess you must like it too then as you respond to my every post.


I provide you with mental challenges, which are
evidently missing from your off-line life.


Back at you.


There's no shame in
admitting that life is really friggin boring when you're smart. You
just have to get past the overcompensated ego thing and you'll be all
set for some -real- challenges!


So we finally get a glimpse into the real world of Frank Gilliland.
Hey, there's no shame in admitting boredom. I'm glad that I can help
you pass your time, until a another job which challenges you, comes
your way. I hope it happens soon. But projection is one of the most
easy to spot psych issues.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Frank Gilliland February 23rd 05 02:15 PM

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:01:22 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote in :

snipapalooza
I also use statistics and probability.



So do I, but not when facts and logic best define the truth. And
unlike you, I -don't- use stats or probability to disuade -against-
facts and logic.


The logical process is beyond reproach. You cannot argue with a
logical conclusion based on a solid set of premises. But what I
question, and use other methods to validate, are the likelihood that
those premises are faulty.



Gee, that sounds familiar.....


brev-ka-bob
Was this not explained to you when you were a
child?


No. The only people held to higher standards are those who are in the
public eye, are paid to perform a service which requires a higher
standard, or those who are recognized as leaders in one vocation or
another. I fall into none of those categories.



You sell yourself short, Dave. You set the expectations of yourself
too low. What a waste.


schnipe
I provide you with mental challenges, which are
evidently missing from your off-line life.


Back at you.



Ok, so those challenges are missing from your on-line life, too.


There's no shame in
admitting that life is really friggin boring when you're smart. You
just have to get past the overcompensated ego thing and you'll be all
set for some -real- challenges!


So we finally get a glimpse into the real world of Frank Gilliland.
Hey, there's no shame in admitting boredom. I'm glad that I can help
you pass your time, until a another job which challenges you, comes
your way. I hope it happens soon.



I never run short of challenges, Dave. If one doesn't present itself
then I'll go looking for a challenge. But at least I don't fool myself
into believing that such challenges are nothing but 'recreation'.


But projection is one of the most
easy to spot psych issues.



And you are the expert on that subject, Dave.







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