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Bike Mobile
Anyone have a bicycle set up with a mobile cb? I'm trying to equip our bike
club with a reliable means of communications. We had thought about GMRS but the FCC said we couldn't use it because it was only for families. I don't think FM would work because we are riding in a lot valleys and hills. I'm particularly interested in antenna mounting, brand and type of antennas. I was think of Cobra 19's due to their size, what do you think? Thanks, Doug |
"Doug Davis" wrote:
Anyone have a bicycle set up with a mobile cb? I'm trying to equip our bike club with a reliable means of communications. We had thought about GMRS but the FCC said we couldn't use it because it was only for families. I don't think FM would work because we are riding in a lot valleys and hills. I'm particularly interested in antenna mounting, brand and type of antennas. I was think of Cobra 19's due to their size, what do you think? Thanks, Doug Your bad heart and fish hook spine won't allow you to ride a bike. Spend the money on your kids for a change, fugly ****head. Oh, and tell crisco cathy she did a nice job on the qrz forums. lmao! http://tinyurl.com/4o3m6 |
I don't know who you are, boy, but I'd pay a lot to find out. Little coward
must be about 11-years old. Doug "Steveo" wrote in message ... "Doug Davis" wrote: Anyone have a bicycle set up with a mobile cb? I'm trying to equip our bike club with a reliable means of communications. We had thought about GMRS but the FCC said we couldn't use it because it was only for families. I don't think FM would work because we are riding in a lot valleys and hills. I'm particularly interested in antenna mounting, brand and type of antennas. I was think of Cobra 19's due to their size, what do you think? Thanks, Doug Your bad heart and fish hook spine won't allow you to ride a bike. Spend the money on your kids for a change, fugly ****head. Oh, and tell crisco cathy she did a nice job on the qrz forums. lmao! http://tinyurl.com/4o3m6 |
N8WWM "Doug Adair" wrote:
I don't know who you are, boy, but I'd pay a lot to find out. Little coward must be about 11-years old. Doug Have your mental illness meds robbed you of your memory now dogie? http://n8wwm.4t.com/ "Steveo" wrote in message ... "Doug Davis" wrote: Anyone have a bicycle set up with a mobile cb? I'm trying to equip our bike club with a reliable means of communications. We had thought about GMRS but the FCC said we couldn't use it because it was only for families. I don't think FM would work because we are riding in a lot valleys and hills. I'm particularly interested in antenna mounting, brand and type of antennas. I was think of Cobra 19's due to their size, what do you think? Thanks, Doug Your bad heart and fish hook spine won't allow you to ride a bike. Spend the money on your kids for a change, fugly ****head. Oh, and tell crisco cathy she did a nice job on the qrz forums. lmao! http://tinyurl.com/4o3m6 |
"Doug Davis" wrote:
I don't know who you are, boy, but I'd pay a lot to find out. No need to pay. I'm Steve in Medina Ohio. You can pay me if you want. Little coward must be about 11-years old. Doug My bad, looks like you have the same first name and isp as doug adair.(n8wwm)The cowardly felon repeater jammer. http://n8wwm.4t.com/ Perhaps an apology is in order. Sorry. |
No problem, I can forget it. Now answer my question about the bike's and
cb's. Our first ride is April 7th and we need to get ready. Doug "Steveo" wrote in message ... "Doug Davis" wrote: I don't know who you are, boy, but I'd pay a lot to find out. No need to pay. I'm Steve in Medina Ohio. You can pay me if you want. Little coward must be about 11-years old. Doug My bad, looks like you have the same first name and isp as doug adair.(n8wwm)The cowardly felon repeater jammer. http://n8wwm.4t.com/ Perhaps an apology is in order. Sorry. |
"Doug Davis" wrote:
No problem, I can forget it. Now answer my question about the bike's and cb's. Our first ride is April 7th and we need to get ready. Doug Helmets or no? They do make those motorcycle cb's, but I think the headphone/mic go in your helmet, no? FRS can only be used by family and not bike clubs? (non-withstanding hills being in your way more with those) They would be quieter. |
I knew FRS was family radio service, but I thought GMRS, General Mobile
Radio Service was just for people period but the FCC said you had to be a blood relative to qualify for the family. Plus the license fee went up to $80.00. dd "Steveo" wrote in message ... "Doug Davis" wrote: No problem, I can forget it. Now answer my question about the bike's and cb's. Our first ride is April 7th and we need to get ready. Doug Helmets or no? They do make those motorcycle cb's, but I think the headphone/mic go in your helmet, no? FRS can only be used by family and not bike clubs? (non-withstanding hills being in your way more with those) They would be quieter. |
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Steveo wrote:
Have your mental illness meds robbed you of your memory now dogie? Always a relevant question when it comes to the newsgroup ankle-hound. |
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote: Steveo wrote in Your bad heart and fish hook spine won't allow you to ride a bike. Spend the money on your kids for a change, fugly ****head. Oh, and tell crisco cathy she did a nice job on the qrz forums. lmao! http://tinyurl.com/4o3m6 Um..what's not true about that? He told me he has a bad heart when he was pretending to have a truce with me, and we've all seen his fish hook spine in the pic. Please try to keep up next time, jr. |
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(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From: (Steveo) Um..what's not true about that? He told me he has a bad heart when he was pretending to have a truce with me, and we've all seen his fish hook spine in the pic. Please try to keep up next time, jr. Now that you made me think of it, the rec.radio.cb death pool managed to not make anyone any money last year. Guess we're gonna have to re-prioritize the order of probability regarding who is most favored to assume room temperature in 2005. I can only assure any fellow radio operator a good time, or bad. If you come around me with malice in mind, I can't be responsible. If you come around me with your hand-shake out, we'll have some fun. Nothing new. |
only for families. I don't think FM
would work because we are riding in a lot valleys and hills. I don't think handheld CB is going to do any better around hills. You need a quarter-wave antenna with a good ground plane (such as a car would provide) to get any real range with CB, and even then hills will still block a lot of the signal. You actually could use GMRS but each person would need their own $80 licesnse. They call FRS the Family Radio Service because the FCC didn't want a bunch of yahoos cussing and jamming as may happen from time to time on CB, but non-family members are certainly still allowed to communicate using FRS. I recommend you stick with FRS an deal with the line-of-sight issue. If you are biking in a long line, people in the middle can pass messages to those in front and back as you crest or round hills. If you need more range, you could go to MURS. Four times the power, and at a frequency that will bend around hills a little bit better. You can also use replacement antennas ( = better range). However, MURS radios cost $100 and up vs. FRS which cost $10 and up. There are some Chatterbox FRS units designed for motorcycle helmets, these may work on a bicycle helmet. |
From: (Steveo)
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: From: (Steveo) auuuuudio Come in, come in driver. 38 low been giving up some good contacts, sporadically g. 10-4 there southern magnet, 20 over in the Buckeye. Keep the gators close to the ass-falt, and some knees in the breeze. Backatcha.. Speaking of gators, a 9 ft 8 inch gator ate some dude two days ago down here in a retention pond. Authorities are looking for the residents who regularly fed the thing (extremely illegal and they do enforce it). In addition to the dead guy's forearm, recovered in the gut of the bull gator was plenty of store-bought chicken and beef. Dammit man!! |
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(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From: (Steveo) (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: From: (Steveo) auuuuudio Come in, come in driver. 38 low been giving up some good contacts, sporadically g. 10-4 there southern magnet, 20 over in the Buckeye. Keep the gators close to the ass-falt, and some knees in the breeze. Backatcha.. Speaking of gators, a 9 ft 8 inch gator ate some dude two days ago down here in a retention pond. Authorities are looking for the residents who regularly fed the thing (extremely illegal and they do enforce it). In addition to the dead guy's forearm, recovered in the gut of the bull gator was plenty of store-bought chicken and beef. Dammit man!! Ha! Better than Woo's pigs disposing of ya. Do they eat the clothes too? When you dump a body to Woo's pigs, they're clothed sometimes. |
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From: (Steveo) Now that you made me think of it, the rec.radio.cb death pool managed to not make anyone any money last year. Guess we're gonna have to re-prioritize the order of probability regarding who is most favored to assume room temperature in 2005. I can only assure any fellow radio operator a good time, or bad. If you come around me with malice in mind, I can't be responsible. If you come around me with your hand-shake out, we'll have some fun. Nothing new. You sure you ain't got no southern blood in ya'? You cotton with the same hospitality. We're simple folk. I was born in West Virginia by gawd. Does it really show? :) |
You seem to be the only poster in this NG w/o a sack of crap under the
skull. Could you please answer my question. I just posted it on a uk ng. I am in the US though. I need to establish an absolutely reliable line of verbal communication between two stationary points separated by about a quarter mile. It takes me under 10 min to walk the distance. The place is located downtown a middle size US city. I have tried to communicate via a Microsoft messenger. It works but so far I haven't been able to make it reliable. The conversation breaks down. I am sure I will fix the problem eventually but I need a backup system anyway. I have tried a walkie-talkie T5950 by Motorola. It is the most powerful I could find at Radio Shack. It is advertised as capable of maintaining communication over 5 miles. In fact it barely covers my distance because of the interference by residential and industrial structures. It operates at its limit capability, there is a lot of static and as a result it is also unreliable. I turned my attention to CB radio. There are hundreds of systems on the market. I have NO background in the business. The money is no object but I don't want to be extravagant. My needs are simple--to be able to talk on demand any time. I don't want extra features of any kind. What power output do I need? What kind of antenna? One office is located on the fifth floor of a concrete building, the counterpart is on the second floor of a century old brick building. I would appreciate ANY suggestions. I speculate that among people who lurk in here there are dealers promoting their products. I would appreciate them staying clear. I would greatly appreciate opinions of people with PERSONAL experience. Thanks. |
I need to establish an absolutely reliable line of verbal communication
.... I have tried a walkie-talkie T5950 by Motorola. It is the most powerful I From what I can find on the web, this radio only puts out 1W, which is not much. Handheld radios can legally go up to 7W, though very very few go above 5W. If your communications are possible but poor at 1W, they would probably be acceptable but maybe not crystal clear at 5W (you will not get 5X better signal because when you double your power, your signal only improves 1.5X). The problem with consumer-grade radios is they seldom tell you the power output on the box or bubble pack, so you may have to do some research to find radios that do 5W. When they say "6 miles" or whatever on the package, that is completely meaningless. Be aware that only the 1/2W (500mW) FRS radios are license-free. Your current radio and any other radio like it that puts out more than 1/2W are GMRS radios, and require you to obtain an $80 license from the FCC in order to legally operate them. Since the FCC will not issue a license to a business, one person at each of your locations will need a license (unless you are related; family memebrs can share GMRS licenses). If you don't want to sink $160 into GMRS licensing (the licenses are good for 5 years), you can look at license-free MURS radios. These radios only go up to 2W though, so I'm guessing they will not have the power you need. Also, the radios themselves cost $100-$200 each. Most CBs only put out 4W and CB has other issues too (interference from CBers three states away). If you can find a couple of inexpensive CB radios that do SSB (not all do, read the specs carefully!), you get 16W of power in SSB mode. That would probably do the trick though you might find yourself changing channels once in a while to get away from interference. What power output do I need? What kind of antenna? I think the simplest solution is to find a pair of 5W GMRS or 2W MURS handhelds that have detachable antennas. If these still can't make the distance, you can purchase aftermarket antennas. These will be long and ungainly, but will about double your performance over the stock stubby antenna. When you look at aftermarket antennas, try to get one that advertises a 5/8 wavelength element, as 5/8 has more gain (=better signal) than the more common 1/4 wavelength element. Aftermarket antennas can be found at a commercial radio shop (the place where police depts buy their radios) or at a ham radio shop. Make sure you get antennas tuned to 462-467MHz for GMRS or 154MHz for MURS, or you will fry your radios the first time you transmit. Hope that helps! |
Steveo wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: From: (Steveo) Now that you made me think of it, the rec.radio.cb death pool managed to not make anyone any money last year. Guess we're gonna have to re-prioritize the order of probability regarding who is most favored to assume room temperature in 2005. I can only assure any fellow radio operator a good time, or bad. If you come around me with malice in mind, I can't be responsible. If you come around me with your hand-shake out, we'll have some fun. Nothing new. You sure you ain't got no southern blood in ya'? You cotton with the same hospitality. We're simple folk. I was born in West Virginia by gawd. Does it really show? :) you really want to know :o |
"user" wrote in message ... I need to establish an absolutely reliable line of verbal communication ... I have tried a walkie-talkie T5950 by Motorola. It is the most powerful I From what I can find on the web, this radio only puts out 1W, which is not much. Handheld radios can legally go up to 7W, though very very few go above 5W. If your communications are possible but poor at 1W, they would probably be acceptable but maybe not crystal clear at 5W (you will not get 5X better signal because when you double your power, your signal only improves 1.5X). The problem with consumer-grade radios is they seldom tell you the power output on the box or bubble pack, so you may have to do some research to find radios that do 5W. When they say "6 miles" or whatever on the package, that is completely meaningless. snipped Hope that helps! I cannot thank you too much. I will have to study your answer and may have a few more questions. Yesterday I tried to apply for a FCC license for a GM radio as them call it. I could not find GMRS category. I got lost in the application because the system kept asking me about the latitude and longitude of my place which I have to investigate and there were other errors/ contradictory answers I could not even properly understand. I can spend as much as necessary on this line of communication, provided it is convenient and reliable. Money is no object. Thanks. |
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(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
wrote: Speaking of gators, a 9 ft 8 inch gator ate some dude two days ago down here in a retention pond. Authorities are looking for the residents who regularly fed the thing (extremely illegal and they do enforce it). In addition to the dead guy's forearm, recovered in the gut of the bull gator was plenty of store-bought chicken and beef. Dammit man!! Ha! Better than Woo's pigs disposing of ya. Do they eat the clothes too? When you dump a body to Woo's pigs, they're clothed sometimes. Dude,,I can relate. Visitors think it's cute as hell when the Blue-Ticks lick their hands through the cages. They would **** if they knew the hounds were checking their taste. That's another reason to wash your hands after you unpack. ewww |
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