cooltube wrote:

No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT

As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce wrote:



cooltube wrote:

No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT

As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?

dxAce
Michigan

Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw and will break after a few
years of constant tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough and robust.
I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is the thin copper wire that servers as
a safety ground and as a safety wire in case a link in the lamp chain
breaks in hanging chandeliers.

On Sun, 08 May 2005 09:58:48 -0600, yea right wrote:

On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce wrote:



cooltube wrote:

No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT

As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?

dxAce
Michigan

Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw and will break after a few
years of constant tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough and robust.
I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is the thin copper wire that servers as
a safety ground and as a safety wire in case a link in the lamp chain
breaks in hanging chandeliers.

I have 50' of thin braided copper wire from Home Depot that's been
under constant tension for 6 years 9 months. Enough tension to
deflect the top of a 20' support (two fence rails, a spike base and a
building clamp at 9') 2 to 3 inches.

From: (David)

I have 50' of thin braided copper wire from

Home Depot that's been under constant

tension for 6 years 9 months. Enough tension

to deflect the top of a 20' support (two fence

rails, a spike base and a building clamp at 9')

2 to 3 inches.

Home Depot doesn't sell solid copper wire. What you are using is copper
coated wire.

From: (yea=A0right)
On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce wrote:
cooltube wrote:
No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0986208&ss P=
ageName=3DSTRK:MESE:IT
As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?
dxAce
Michigan

Hahaha..

Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw
and will break after a few years of constant

tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough

and robust. I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is

the thin copper wire that servers as a safety

ground and as a safety wire in case a link in

the lamp chain breaks in hanging chandeliers.

Copper wire should NEVER be used as your ground because ( the reasons
you stated, in addition to... ) the inductance value is **** poor.
Copper strap is always desirable over wire. FWIW, many people, hammies
included, feel they are using copper wire when they are in reality using
copper COATED wire. No matter,,, copper wire doesn't compare to copper
strap.

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (yea right)
On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce wrote:
cooltube wrote:
No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MESE:IT
As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?
dxAce
Michigan

Hahaha..

Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw
and will break after a few years of constant

tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough

and robust. I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is

the thin copper wire that servers as a safety

ground and as a safety wire in case a link in

the lamp chain breaks in hanging chandeliers.

Copper wire should NEVER be used as your ground because ( the reasons
you stated, in addition to... ) the inductance value is **** poor.
Copper strap is always desirable over wire. FWIW, many people, hammies
included, feel they are using copper wire when they are in reality using
copper COATED wire. No matter,,, copper wire doesn't compare to copper
strap.

Strap is better, but due to skin effect, you could copper coat steel and it
would work as well for rf as solid copper. Hmmmm .... come to think of it,
they do make that stuff.

I used to use 8 gauge copper wire for my longwire antenna. Despite being
held by several trees and anchored at the house, nothing ever brought it
down. Nothing like a *lot* of copper. Come to think of it, it was several
hundred feet long and worked gangbusterly on 160 as well as the other bands.
25 watts and I was solid pretty much across the country at night; during the
daytime, I still pounded into Washington D.C. from Rochester, NY using 65
watts. That was on 160. 15 and 20 meters and 75 watts worked the world
with no problem - other than the fact that the pattern of that antenna was
real strange. I never got more than a fair report from England, but Norway,
Sweden, and Denmark would always give me a report of a very strong signal.
Same with Italy.

Regardless, I'd never use anything as light as 18 gauge wire for anything.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

From: (Jim=A0Hampton)
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
... From:
(yea right) On Sun, 08 May 2005 10:38:40 -0400, dxAce
wrote: cooltube wrote:
No Bids @$10, gotta see.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0986208&ss P=
ageName=3DSTRK:MESE:IT
As opposed to 'fake' copper wire?
dxAce
Michigan
_
Hahaha..

(Most all copper wire on the market is soft draw and will break after a
few years of constant
tension. Hard draw copper wire is very tough
and robust. I use 18g lamp safety wire. This is
the thin copper wire that servers as a safety
ground and as a safety wire in case a link in
the lamp chain breaks in hanging chandeliers. )



Copper wire should NEVER be used as your ground because ( the reasons
you stated, in addition to... ) the inductance value is **** poor.
Copper strap is always desirable over wire. FWIW, many people, hammies
included, feel they are using copper wire when they are in reality using
copper COATED wire. No matter,,, copper wire doesn't compare to copper
strap.

Strap is better, but due to skin effect, you

could copper coat steel and it would work as

well for rf as solid copper.



Skin effect changes the inductance value to equal that of copper strap?

Hmmmm .... come to think of it, they do make
that stuff.

I used to use 8 gauge copper wire for my

longwire antenna. Despite being held by

several trees and anchored at the house,

nothing ever brought it down. Nothing like a

*lot* of copper. Come to think of it, it was

several hundred feet long and worked

gangbusterly on 160 as well as the other

bands. 25 watts and I was solid pretty much

across the country at night; during the

daytime, I still pounded into Washington D.C.

from Rochester, NY using 65 watts. That was

on 160. 15 and 20 meters and 75 watts

worked the world with no problem - other than

the fact that the pattern of that antenna was

real strange. I never got more than a fair

report from England, but Norway, Sweden,

and Denmark would always give me a report

of a very strong signal. Same with Italy.

Regardless, I'd never use anything as light as

18 gauge wire for anything.



I wish I had the room and free space to play with long wires.

73 from Rochester, NY

Jim

Looks like summer is on the way for you guys. Enjoy.