Hey Dave..
 

Check out the final word on the global warming issue. Go to the NY
Times and search for Philip A. Cooney in the search function. Here's an
excerpt verbatim from over the weekend:



-Begin NY Times Article-


Bush's Environmental Editor
"Philip A. Cooney's job in the Bush administration is akin to the food
taster of a bygone age. Instead of taking the first bite of the royal
pudding to make suree it's safe to eat, Cooney is the first to see
scientific reports relating to climate change before they are released
to the public. He then edits the text to his political bosses' liking,
even if that means twisting the truth, which this administration seems
to view as poisonous. Typical was how Cooney marked up a draft
report-obtained by the NY Times-that was supposed to help Americans
understand what their government is doing about global warming. Where
the draft stated a clear role for the Climate Change Research Initiative
"to facilitate ful use of scientific information in policy and decision
making," Cooney injected uncertainty. Under his rewrite, the final
report reads that the CCRI's role is also to "to reduce the significant
remaining uncertainties associated with human-induced climate change."
Who said anything about uncertainties about global warming? Not the
broad scientific community. Not our allies such as Britain, whose
leaders have been trying to convince us to take the problem seriously.
Cooney's qualifications for drawing such conclusions are suspect. Before
becoming Chief of Staff to the White House Council on Environmental
Quality, he was a lawyer without scientific training and a lobbyist for
the American Petroleum Institute. As a producer of the main culprit in
climate change -fossil fuel- the petroleum industry has an entirely
different take on global warming. Maybe that explains why Cooney can
turn a definitive statement about the threat from raid melting of the
polar ice caps into this seemingly benign gobbledygook: "Warming could
also lead to changes in the water cycle in polar regions." This isn't
the first time the Bush administration has played loose with the truth
or allowed a special interest group to influence outcomes that were
based on science/. A group of renowned American scientists has
criticized the administration for stacking advisory groups with
unqualified or conflicted experts, censoring reports by goverment
scientists and failing to seek independent scientific advice. In the
hands of a revisionist like Cooney, that could turn into high praise."
-end of article-

I AmnotGeorgeBush wrote:
Check out the final word on the global warming issue. Go to the NY
Times and search for Philip A. Cooney in the search function. Here's an
excerpt verbatim from over the weekend:



-Begin NY Times Article-


Bush's Environmental Editor
"Philip A. Cooney's job in the Bush administration is akin to the food
taster of a bygone age. Instead of taking the first bite of the royal
pudding to make suree it's safe to eat, Cooney is the first to see
scientific reports relating to climate change before they are released
to the public. He then edits the text to his political bosses' liking,
even if that means twisting the truth, which this administration seems
to view as poisonous. Typical was how Cooney marked up a draft
report-obtained by the NY Times-that was supposed to help Americans
understand what their government is doing about global warming. Where
the draft stated a clear role for the Climate Change Research Initiative
"to facilitate ful use of scientific information in policy and decision
making," Cooney injected uncertainty. Under his rewrite, the final
report reads that the CCRI's role is also to "to reduce the significant
remaining uncertainties associated with human-induced climate change."
Who said anything about uncertainties about global warming? Not the
broad scientific community. Not our allies such as Britain, whose
leaders have been trying to convince us to take the problem seriously.
Cooney's qualifications for drawing such conclusions are suspect. Before
becoming Chief of Staff to the White House Council on Environmental
Quality, he was a lawyer without scientific training and a lobbyist for
the American Petroleum Institute. As a producer of the main culprit in
climate change -fossil fuel- the petroleum industry has an entirely
different take on global warming. Maybe that explains why Cooney can
turn a definitive statement about the threat from raid melting of the
polar ice caps into this seemingly benign gobbledygook: "Warming could
also lead to changes in the water cycle in polar regions." This isn't
the first time the Bush administration has played loose with the truth
or allowed a special interest group to influence outcomes that were
based on science/. A group of renowned American scientists has
criticized the administration for stacking advisory groups with
unqualified or conflicted experts, censoring reports by goverment
scientists and failing to seek independent scientific advice. In the
hands of a revisionist like Cooney, that could turn into high praise."
-end of article-

So now some jerkoff who got his college degree at an eastern liberal
slime slick institution writes that the administration is deliberately
censoring all global warming news. Right. You mean the Euro-trash media
is also under this guy's control? The punk editorializes and shows no
documented sources to support his drooling.

Predictably, the current administration is blamed for any and all of
the industrially wrought climate changes since the dawn of man...and
equally predictable is FUGGLY KID's handler sucking it up and spewing
it out.

This is the same ignoramus and registered moron who said the Bush
administration lied about WMD in Iraq. Of course, his wristflipping
self never replied when I, his intellectual master and superior in
every aspect of the phrase, posted the stuff the democrats were saying
about WMD in Iraq, LONG BEFORE Bush took office.

For the edification of those who would rather hear an ACCURATE version
of what was said than the idiotic dribblings of an intellectually
deprived and pudding brained hunk of parrot droppings, here is a list
of liberal comments about WMD in Iraq. These are sourced by name and
date, and thus easy to verify. Unlike wristflipping Bush hating
jackasses, those of us who can use the words of the liberal nutsacks by
throwing them right back in their snot running, saliva drooling faces
have no need to talk junk with no backup.

Here Ya Go!

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will
use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is
the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S.Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin,Tom Daschle,
John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and
he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is
doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop
longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our
allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,)and
others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam
is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that the deadly arsenal of weapons of mass
destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have
always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do"
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear
program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists,
including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left
unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to
wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop
nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
brutal,murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents
a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry ! (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


Now that twitlips and his other mealy mouthed wristflippers have AGAIN
been called on the carpet for talking unsourced, stupid, slanted,
liberal bilge water, lets just see what lies the Florida fruitcake
comes up with next. It might get really outta line and out there
knowing twitlips...he may even try to say he is heterosexual and does
not collect jockstraps of men he fantasizes about.

PS Damned right he is not George Bush, twitlips couldn't make a pimple
on the ass of whoever shines Mr. Bush's shoes.

"mopathetic didn't camp at Dayton! CHICKEN BOY!"
wrote in message
ups.com...


I AmnotGeorgeBush wrote:
Check out the final word on the global warming issue. Go to the NY
Times and search for Philip A. Cooney in the search function. Here's an
excerpt verbatim from over the weekend:



-Begin NY Times Article-


Bush's Environmental Editor
"Philip A. Cooney's job in the Bush administration is akin to the food
taster of a bygone age. Instead of taking the first bite of the royal
pudding to make suree it's safe to eat, Cooney is the first to see
scientific reports relating to climate change before they are released
to the public. He then edits the text to his political bosses' liking,
even if that means twisting the truth, which this administration seems
to view as poisonous. Typical was how Cooney marked up a draft
report-obtained by the NY Times-that was supposed to help Americans
understand what their government is doing about global warming. Where
the draft stated a clear role for the Climate Change Research Initiative
"to facilitate ful use of scientific information in policy and decision
making," Cooney injected uncertainty. Under his rewrite, the final
report reads that the CCRI's role is also to "to reduce the significant
remaining uncertainties associated with human-induced climate change."
Who said anything about uncertainties about global warming? Not the
broad scientific community. Not our allies such as Britain, whose
leaders have been trying to convince us to take the problem seriously.
Cooney's qualifications for drawing such conclusions are suspect. Before
becoming Chief of Staff to the White House Council on Environmental
Quality, he was a lawyer without scientific training and a lobbyist for
the American Petroleum Institute. As a producer of the main culprit in
climate change -fossil fuel- the petroleum industry has an entirely
different take on global warming. Maybe that explains why Cooney can
turn a definitive statement about the threat from raid melting of the
polar ice caps into this seemingly benign gobbledygook: "Warming could
also lead to changes in the water cycle in polar regions." This isn't
the first time the Bush administration has played loose with the truth
or allowed a special interest group to influence outcomes that were
based on science/. A group of renowned American scientists has
criticized the administration for stacking advisory groups with
unqualified or conflicted experts, censoring reports by goverment
scientists and failing to seek independent scientific advice. In the
hands of a revisionist like Cooney, that could turn into high praise."
-end of article-

So now some jerkoff who got his college degree at an eastern liberal
slime slick institution writes that the administration is deliberately
censoring all global warming news. Right. You mean the Euro-trash media
is also under this guy's control? The punk editorializes and shows no
documented sources to support his drooling.

Predictably, the current administration is blamed for any and all of
the industrially wrought climate changes since the dawn of man...and
equally predictable is FUGGLY KID's handler sucking it up and spewing
it out.

This is the same ignoramus and registered moron who said the Bush
administration lied about WMD in Iraq. Of course, his wristflipping
self never replied when I, his intellectual master and superior in
every aspect of the phrase, posted the stuff the democrats were saying
about WMD in Iraq, LONG BEFORE Bush took office.

For the edification of those who would rather hear an ACCURATE version
of what was said than the idiotic dribblings of an intellectually
deprived and pudding brained hunk of parrot droppings, here is a list
of liberal comments about WMD in Iraq. These are sourced by name and
date, and thus easy to verify. Unlike wristflipping Bush hating
jackasses, those of us who can use the words of the liberal nutsacks by
throwing them right back in their snot running, saliva drooling faces
have no need to talk junk with no backup.

Here Ya Go!

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will
use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is
the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S.Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin,Tom Daschle,
John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and
he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is
doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop
longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our
allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,)and
others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam
is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that the deadly arsenal of weapons of mass
destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have
always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do"
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear
program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists,
including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left
unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to
wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop
nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
brutal,murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents
a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry ! (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


Now that twitlips and his other mealy mouthed wristflippers have AGAIN
been called on the carpet for talking unsourced, stupid, slanted,
liberal bilge water, lets just see what lies the Florida fruitcake
comes up with next. It might get really outta line and out there
knowing twitlips...he may even try to say he is heterosexual and does
not collect jockstraps of men he fantasizes about.

PS Damned right he is not George Bush, twitlips couldn't make a pimple
on the ass of whoever shines Mr. Bush's shoes.



Well, you'll find out a few years down the road.

Must be a right-wing reactionary.

Hope you aren't religious; the religious right pray to a liberal who was
condemned and crucified some 2000 years ago.

Facts, however, never seem to register.


ZBM-2 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Yes, *everyone* rallied behind Bush when it first occurred. He certainly
had good reason to go into Afghanistan when he did, but the weapons of mass
destruction were based upon one individual. Folks responsible for
intelligence attempted to warn that this individual was not reliable, but
were told by superiors that was not what Bush wanted to hear.

So, the reality is that Bush is going to drive his own way and not pay
attention to either facts, nor his constituents. There are over 40 nations
on this earth with a higher life expectancy than Americans. And we spend
the most per capita on health insurance. Go figure.

America is both feared and ridiculed throughout most of the world.
Especially the civilized world, of which America is in grave danger of no
longer being a member.

As to the college educated, please go ahead and inform me that pi is exactly
equal to 3. I might also note in passing that there are some geniuses in
other parts of the world that are eclipsing the American geniuses. I can
only assume it is because of the extreme religious right zealots that the
highly educated are being held back from stating facts or doing more
research.

Are you a member of the John Birch Society? Perhaps the Ku Klux Klan?

If you are religious, remember to "beware of false prophets". Bush is #1 on
my list.

Bush gets his votes from religious zealots. Remember, it is religious
zealots in Iraq that are causing some of the problems (most of the problems
I lay at George Bush's feet).



ZBM-2 from Rochester, NY
Jim


"mopathetic didn't camp at Dayton! CHICKEN BOY!"
wrote in message
ups.com...


So now some jerkoff who got his college degree at an eastern liberal
slime slick institution writes that the administration is deliberately
censoring all global warming news. Right. You mean the Euro-trash media
is also under this guy's control? The punk editorializes and shows no
documented sources to support his drooling.

Predictably, the current administration is blamed for any and all of
the industrially wrought climate changes since the dawn of man...and
equally predictable is FUGGLY KID's handler sucking it up and spewing
it out.

This is the same ignoramus and registered moron who said the Bush
administration lied about WMD in Iraq. Of course, his wristflipping
self never replied when I, his intellectual master and superior in
every aspect of the phrase, posted the stuff the democrats were saying
about WMD in Iraq, LONG BEFORE Bush took office.

For the edification of those who would rather hear an ACCURATE version
of what was said than the idiotic dribblings of an intellectually
deprived and pudding brained hunk of parrot droppings, here is a list
of liberal comments about WMD in Iraq. These are sourced by name and
date, and thus easy to verify. Unlike wristflipping Bush hating
jackasses, those of us who can use the words of the liberal nutsacks by
throwing them right back in their snot running, saliva drooling faces
have no need to talk junk with no backup.

Here Ya Go!

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a
great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will
use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is
the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the
U.S.Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin,Tom Daschle,
John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and
he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is
doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop
longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our
allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,)and
others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to
deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam
is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that the deadly arsenal of weapons of mass
destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have
always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do"
- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show
that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological
weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear
program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists,
including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left
unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to
wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop
nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
brutal,murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents
a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry ! (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


Now that twitlips and his other mealy mouthed wristflippers have AGAIN
been called on the carpet for talking unsourced, stupid, slanted,
liberal bilge water, lets just see what lies the Florida fruitcake
comes up with next. It might get really outta line and out there
knowing twitlips...he may even try to say he is heterosexual and does
not collect jockstraps of men he fantasizes about.

PS Damned right he is not George Bush, twitlips couldn't make a pimple
on the ass of whoever shines Mr. Bush's shoes.

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
Yes, *everyone* rallied behind Bush when it first occurred.

Hello Jim.

That ****tard felon (N8WWM) isn't allowed to vote or have firearms.

HTH.

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
Yes, *everyone* rallied behind Bush when it first occurred.

Hello Jim.

That ****tard felon (N8WWM) isn't allowed to vote or have firearms.

HTH.


Guess what, Mopar?

I had dinner with some friends. A good friend who owns a couple of
construction companies was telling me he had a couple thousand rounds of
ammo. Then he tells me that he bought 19,000 rounds of 12 gauge shells. I
asked about why he stated 2,000 rounds. He said that was for the 9mm! He
has 7,000 rounds for some large rifle (don't remember). He stated that he
asked for different loads in the 12 gauge shells. They loaded two pallets
on his truck. He took them home. He was surprised, however. He didn't
write a check nor use a credit or debit card. When he plunked cold, hard
cash on the counter, they gave him another discount.

He knows what Bush's "homeland security" is worth. It is pork for the
"right" states.

Do not approach that guy's house in the night unless you come right up the
driveway in the lights (a ton of halogen floodlights triggered by
heat/movement do come on with movement outside the house). Otherwise,
beware of flying objects.

They will be bullets.

LOL. So much for homeland security. Anyone found the weapons of mass
destruction, yet?

BTW, he got 99 out of 100 on the last skeet shoot. Not bad for a guy over
60 years old and 300 pounds. He also just won the Hampton trophy (after my
grandfather, George Hampton) shooting skeet. He is being raised in rank to
the #2 slot in the Shriners locally. He has his head screwed on real well
and does not take nicely to anyone messing with his family. He has no
problem with revolvers, shotguns, rifles, nor any other object that shoots
bullets - either single shot, semi-automatic, or automatic.

I have no idea how much ammo he has in his house. He just told me tonight
that he shifted the ammo into a number of large toolmaker wheel-around carts
so they can be wheeled out of the house in case of fire.



73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

I had dinner with some friends. A good friend who owns a couple of
construction companies was telling me he had a couple thousand rounds of
ammo. Then he tells me that he bought 19,000 rounds of 12 gauge shells. I
asked about why he stated 2,000 rounds. He said that was for the 9mm! He
has 7,000 rounds for some large rifle (don't remember). He stated that he
asked for different loads in the 12 gauge shells. They loaded two pallets
on his truck. He took them home. He was surprised, however. He didn't
write a check nor use a credit or debit card. When he plunked cold, hard
cash on the counter, they gave him another discount.

I wonder if it's 7.62x39?

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
...
I had dinner with some friends. A good friend who owns a couple of
construction companies was telling me he had a couple thousand rounds of
ammo. Then he tells me that he bought 19,000 rounds of 12 gauge shells.
I
asked about why he stated 2,000 rounds. He said that was for the 9mm!
He
has 7,000 rounds for some large rifle (don't remember). He stated that
he
asked for different loads in the 12 gauge shells. They loaded two
pallets
on his truck. He took them home. He was surprised, however. He didn't
write a check nor use a credit or debit card. When he plunked cold,
hard
cash on the counter, they gave him another discount.

I wonder if it's 7.62x39?

LOL!! I have probably have 3000 7.62 x 39, 1000 of 30-06, 500 45acp, 100
12ga.


I paid what ever, but I'm not worried, just love to shoot the AK fully auto.
The
Garand is much more fun to shoot though, the Remington Rand 1911 A1 is been
my favorite as of late ;)

Landshark

"Landshark" wrote in message
. ..

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
...
I had dinner with some friends. A good friend who owns a couple of
construction companies was telling me he had a couple thousand rounds
of
ammo. Then he tells me that he bought 19,000 rounds of 12 gauge
shells.
I
asked about why he stated 2,000 rounds. He said that was for the 9mm!
He
has 7,000 rounds for some large rifle (don't remember). He stated
that
he
asked for different loads in the 12 gauge shells. They loaded two
pallets
on his truck. He took them home. He was surprised, however. He
didn't
write a check nor use a credit or debit card. When he plunked cold,
hard
cash on the counter, they gave him another discount.

I wonder if it's 7.62x39?

LOL!! I have probably have 3000 7.62 x 39, 1000 of 30-06, 500 45acp, 100
12ga.


I paid what ever, but I'm not worried, just love to shoot the AK fully
auto.
The
Garand is much more fun to shoot though, the Remington Rand 1911 A1 is
been
my favorite as of late ;)

Landshark


I take it you guys decided against duct tape for protection?
Bwhahahahaha LOL

Ain't Bush unreal? Duct tape?

Anyone up for joining? They are upping the ante to $40,000 for first time
enlistees. Heck, they only offered me $10,000 to re-up for Vietnam. I gave
them my answer in a two letter word. It begins with an "N" and ends with an
"O" .... :))

At least I had my option of getting out after 4 years of active duty ;)



Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim

On 13 Jun 2005 21:19:43 GMT, Steveo wrote:

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
Yes, *everyone* rallied behind Bush when it first occurred.

Hello Jim.

That ****tard felon (N8WWM) isn't allowed to vote or have firearms.

HTH.


Hey, I can vote and have firearms !!!!!

Vinnie S.

I take it you guys decided against duct tape for protection?
Bwhahahahaha LOL

Ain't Bush unreal? Duct tape?


I've had my 1000+ rounds for a while now.

I've picked up rolls of "Duck" tape at discount stores, but I don't
use it for Bush's purposes.


Anyone up for joining? They are upping the ante to $40,000 for first time
enlistees. Heck, they only offered me $10,000 to re-up for Vietnam. I gave
them my answer in a two letter word. It begins with an "N" and ends with an
"O" .... :))


I'm too old for them and have too many ailments for the "armed" services.

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
...
I take it you guys decided against duct tape for protection?
Bwhahahahaha LOL

Ain't Bush unreal? Duct tape?


I've had my 1000+ rounds for a while now.

I've picked up rolls of "Duck" tape at discount stores, but I don't
use it for Bush's purposes.


Anyone up for joining? They are upping the ante to $40,000 for first
time
enlistees. Heck, they only offered me $10,000 to re-up for Vietnam. I
gave
them my answer in a two letter word. It begins with an "N" and ends
with an
"O" .... :))


I'm too old for them and have too many ailments for the "armed" services.


Heck, Scott, I'd love to meet up with you, Mopar, Landshark, and Twist. I'd
give you all a lecture on rules and regulations - then we could laugh our
butts off. Too many folks take too many things too seriously.

Rules are fine, but we don't need the idiots lecturing constantly. Better
to go fishing or go for some off road stuff.

Heck, let Mopar bring his biggest, badest machine and I'll race him off road
with my wheel-around walker :))

BTW, I can only copy 5 words per minute cw.

I also have a couple of bridges to sell to you, if you are interested ;)


Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim

I also have a couple of bridges to sell to you, if you are interested ;)

I've got a few email scams to trade you.

Mopathetic, why didn't you show up at a campground in Dayton? Too busy
being scared? Yep. Uhl get over it, wristflipper

isn't that the exact dimensions of mopathetic's pus bag, I mean brain?

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
Yes, *everyone* rallied behind Bush when it first occurred.

Hello Jim.

That ****tard felon (N8WWM) isn't allowed to vote or have firearms.

HTH.

Guess what, Mopar?

I had dinner with some friends. A good friend who owns a couple of
construction companies was telling me he had a couple thousand rounds of
ammo. Then he tells me that he bought 19,000 rounds of 12 gauge shells.
I asked about why he stated 2,000 rounds. He said that was for the 9mm!
He has 7,000 rounds for some large rifle (don't remember). He stated
that he asked for different loads in the 12 gauge shells. They loaded
two pallets on his truck. He took them home. He was surprised, however.
He didn't write a check nor use a credit or debit card. When he plunked
cold, hard cash on the counter, they gave him another discount.

He knows what Bush's "homeland security" is worth. It is pork for the
"right" states.

Do not approach that guy's house in the night unless you come right up
the driveway in the lights (a ton of halogen floodlights triggered by
heat/movement do come on with movement outside the house). Otherwise,
beware of flying objects.

They will be bullets.

LOL. So much for homeland security. Anyone found the weapons of mass
destruction, yet?

BTW, he got 99 out of 100 on the last skeet shoot. Not bad for a guy
over 60 years old and 300 pounds. He also just won the Hampton trophy
(after my grandfather, George Hampton) shooting skeet. He is being
raised in rank to the #2 slot in the Shriners locally. He has his head
screwed on real well and does not take nicely to anyone messing with his
family. He has no problem with revolvers, shotguns, rifles, nor any
other object that shoots bullets - either single shot, semi-automatic, or
automatic.

I have no idea how much ammo he has in his house. He just told me
tonight that he shifted the ammo into a number of large toolmaker
wheel-around carts so they can be wheeled out of the house in case of
fire.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Dang, that dood takes his guns quite serious eh? I'd think a guy like that
would be doing his own re-loading, at least for the shotgun shells.

Homeland security or not, there's nothing wrong with plan B when it comes
to protecting your home or family. Out here in the sticks where I live
you'd be a fool to not have your own plan of attack...by the time the law
gets out here, I will have dealt with an intruder my own way too. :)

That's cool that there's an award named after your grand pappy!

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Landshark" wrote in message
. ..

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
...
I had dinner with some friends. A good friend who owns a couple of
construction companies was telling me he had a couple thousand
rounds
of
ammo. Then he tells me that he bought 19,000 rounds of 12 gauge
shells.
I
asked about why he stated 2,000 rounds. He said that was for the
9mm!
He
has 7,000 rounds for some large rifle (don't remember). He stated
that
he
asked for different loads in the 12 gauge shells. They loaded two
pallets
on his truck. He took them home. He was surprised, however. He
didn't
write a check nor use a credit or debit card. When he plunked
cold,
hard
cash on the counter, they gave him another discount.

I wonder if it's 7.62x39?

LOL!! I have probably have 3000 7.62 x 39, 1000 of 30-06, 500 45acp,
100 12ga.


I paid what ever, but I'm not worried, just love to shoot the AK fully
auto.
The
Garand is much more fun to shoot though, the Remington Rand 1911 A1 is
been
my favorite as of late ;)

Landshark


I take it you guys decided against duct tape for protection?
Bwhahahahaha LOL

Ain't Bush unreal? Duct tape?

Did you ask your gun freak friend why he doesn't just use duct tape? g

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 13 Jun 2005 21:19:43 GMT, Steveo wrote:

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
Yes, *everyone* rallied behind Bush when it first occurred.

Hello Jim.

That ****tard felon (N8WWM) isn't allowed to vote or have firearms.

HTH.

Hey, I can vote and have firearms !!!!!

Vinnie S.

I'd expect so, Enzo. You don't have a felony or a court ordered head
shrink!!! Hell, you probably even feed your child!

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
...
I take it you guys decided against duct tape for protection?
Bwhahahahaha LOL

Ain't Bush unreal? Duct tape?


I've had my 1000+ rounds for a while now.

I've picked up rolls of "Duck" tape at discount stores, but I don't
use it for Bush's purposes.


Anyone up for joining? They are upping the ante to $40,000 for first
time
enlistees. Heck, they only offered me $10,000 to re-up for Vietnam.
I
gave
them my answer in a two letter word. It begins with an "N" and ends
with an
"O" .... :))


I'm too old for them and have too many ailments for the "armed"
services.

Heck, Scott, I'd love to meet up with you, Mopar, Landshark, and Twist.
I'd give you all a lecture on rules and regulations - then we could laugh
our butts off. Too many folks take too many things too seriously.

That would most definitely be a hoot of a get together, Jim! Maybe you
could tune my Collins to some of the bands it never gets to visit anymore.

Rules are fine, but we don't need the idiots lecturing constantly.
Better to go fishing or go for some off road stuff.

Heck, let Mopar bring his biggest, badest machine and I'll race him off
road with my wheel-around walker :))

Will ya give me a head start too? Two shots of Geritol and let her rip! :P

BTW, I can only copy 5 words per minute cw.

Riiiihgt!

I also have a couple of bridges to sell to you, if you are interested ;)

HA!

Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim

Yep, mopathetic sure LOVES to get together with other keyqweenz...thats
a fact!

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
...
I take it you guys decided against duct tape for protection?
Bwhahahahaha LOL

Ain't Bush unreal? Duct tape?


I've had my 1000+ rounds for a while now.

I've picked up rolls of "Duck" tape at discount stores, but I don't
use it for Bush's purposes.


Anyone up for joining? They are upping the ante to $40,000 for first
time
enlistees. Heck, they only offered me $10,000 to re-up for Vietnam.
I
gave
them my answer in a two letter word. It begins with an "N" and ends
with an
"O" .... :))


I'm too old for them and have too many ailments for the "armed"
services.

Heck, Scott, I'd love to meet up with you, Mopar, Landshark, and Twist.
I'd give you all a lecture on rules and regulations - then we could laugh
our butts off. Too many folks take too many things too seriously.

That would most definitely be a hoot of a get together, Jim! Maybe you
could tune my Collins to some of the bands it never gets to visit anymore.

Rules are fine, but we don't need the idiots lecturing constantly.
Better to go fishing or go for some off road stuff.

Heck, let Mopar bring his biggest, badest machine and I'll race him off
road with my wheel-around walker :))

Will ya give me a head start too? Two shots of Geritol and let her rip! :P

BTW, I can only copy 5 words per minute cw.

Riiiihgt!

I also have a couple of bridges to sell to you, if you are interested ;)

HA!



I'll bring the depends for Jim :) He'll need them
after you're shots of geritol.

Landshark


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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Landshark" wrote in message
. ..

"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
...
I had dinner with some friends. A good friend who owns a couple of
construction companies was telling me he had a couple thousand rounds
of
ammo. Then he tells me that he bought 19,000 rounds of 12 gauge
shells.
I
asked about why he stated 2,000 rounds. He said that was for the
9mm!
He
has 7,000 rounds for some large rifle (don't remember). He stated
that
he
asked for different loads in the 12 gauge shells. They loaded two
pallets
on his truck. He took them home. He was surprised, however. He
didn't
write a check nor use a credit or debit card. When he plunked cold,
hard
cash on the counter, they gave him another discount.

I wonder if it's 7.62x39?

LOL!! I have probably have 3000 7.62 x 39, 1000 of 30-06, 500 45acp, 100
12ga.


I paid what ever, but I'm not worried, just love to shoot the AK fully
auto.
The
Garand is much more fun to shoot though, the Remington Rand 1911 A1 is
been
my favorite as of late ;)

Landshark


I take it you guys decided against duct tape for protection?
Bwhahahahaha LOL

Ain't Bush unreal? Duct tape?

EVERY politician is un-real.


Anyone up for joining? They are upping the ante to $40,000 for first time
enlistees.


Too old, fat and wouldn't be able to handle the BS.

Heck, they only offered me $10,000 to re-up for Vietnam. I gave
them my answer in a two letter word. It begins with an "N" and ends with
an
"O" .... :))


Cheap *******s ;)


At least I had my option of getting out after 4 years of active duty ;)



Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim


Landshark


--
Kindness is the language which the deaf
can hear and the blind can see.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8135134/

"Landshark" wrote:
I'll bring the depends for Jim :) He'll need them
after you're shots of geritol.

Landshark


I recall Ford guys needing the adult diapers first.

On 14 Jun 2005 09:16:59 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S.

I'd expect so, Enzo. You don't have a felony or a court ordered head
shrink!!! Hell, you probably even feed your child!


When I have them. My dog's allergies are costing be big time, but I still feed
him the $40 food for 20lb. Ouch !!!!

Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 14 Jun 2005 09:16:59 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S.

I'd expect so, Enzo. You don't have a felony or a court ordered head
shrink!!! Hell, you probably even feed your child!

When I have them. My dog's allergies are costing be big time, but I still
feed him the $40 food for 20lb. Ouch !!!!

Vinnie S.

Gotta move more cement shoes to keep up with that lifestyle.

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Landshark" wrote:
I'll bring the depends for Jim :) He'll need them
after you're shots of geritol.

Landshark


I recall Ford guys needing the adult diapers first.

Nah, they only get that way when they blow by those Mopar
old farts :)

Landshark


--
Kindness is the language which the deaf
can hear and the blind can see.

"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Landshark" wrote:
I'll bring the depends for Jim :) He'll need them
after you're shots of geritol.

Landshark


I recall Ford guys needing the adult diapers first.

Nah, they only get that way when they blow by those Mopar
old farts :)

Landshark

Mostly Old Parts and Rust! (still dusts ya)

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Landshark" wrote:
I'll bring the depends for Jim :) He'll need them
after you're shots of geritol.

Landshark


I recall Ford guys needing the adult diapers first.

Nah, they only get that way when they blow by those Mopar
old farts :)

Landshark

Mostly Old Parts and Rust! (still dusts ya)

Any day of the week it would my Bronco, but it wouldn't
have a chance against my 67SS Camero with a Z28 motor.

Have a good day (Paul Harvey)

Landshark


--
The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature,
or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland

"Landshark" wrote:
Have a good day (Paul Harvey)

Landshark

Rodgo.

yeah, but you pay it because a keyclown trained gay dog is hard to come
by. Maybe you could buy Stan's gay dog from Southpark if Fido folds his
tent.