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I AmnotGeorgeBush August 12th 05 08:21 PM

Have a Better Way to Manage the Frequency Spectrum? Prove It!!
 
I can think of many who have ideas on this, but only a few here could
pass the security clearance and have the ("desired" even if the ad
doesn't say it) military background and extensive expertise in a related
field. How about it, Frank? JimH? Feds need folks who are in touch with
reality when it comes to anything to do with spectum and frequency
management. Perhaps that would disqualify you both.


_


Department Of Commerce
Agency: National Telecommunications and Information Administration Sub
Agency: U.S. Department of Commerce Job Announcement Number:
NTIA-SSD-2005-0010 Telecommunications Specialist
SALARY RANGE: 52,468.00 - 81,747.00 USD per year OPEN PERIOD: Tuesday,
August 02, 2005
to Tuesday, August 23, 2005
SERIES & GRADE: GS-0391-11/12 POSITION INFORMATION: Competitive Service:
Career or Career Conditional Full-Time, Permanent
DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy - Washington DC Metro Area, DC
WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED:
All qualified U.S. Citizens.
AN EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY (EEO) EMPLOYER
MORE THAN ONE POSITION MAY BE FILLED THROUGH THIS VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT
JOB SUMMARY:
The National Telecommunications and Information Administration
(NTIA), an agency of the U.S. Department of Commerce, is the
Executive Branch's principal adviser on telecommunications and
information policy issues and manages the Federal agency use of the
radio spectrum.
This position is located in the National Telecommunications and
Information Administration's Office of Spectrum Management, Spectrum
Services Division, Frequency Assignment Branch. The personnel of
this Branch assist and advise the NTIA Associate Administrator for
Spectrum Management in managing and authorizing Federal government
use of the radio frequency spectrum.
KEY REQUIREMENTS:
One year of specialized experience at the next lower grade.
Must be able to obtain and hold a secret security clearance.
Overview Duties Qualifications and Evaluation Benefits and other
Information How to Apply
Send Mail to:
U.S. Department of Commerce
1401 Constitution Ave NW
Washington, DC 20230
Fax: 301-562-8968 For questions about this job:
Pam King
Phone: 202-482-1751
Fax: 301-562-8968
TDD: 202-482-3438
Internet:


an_old_friend August 12th 05 10:35 PM

the job app is designed so that only someone who has spent years
climbing the ladder saying the "right" things can even apply

I AmnotGeorgeBush wrote:
I can think of many who have ideas on this, but only a few here could
pass the security clearance and have the ("desired" even if the ad
doesn't say it) military background and extensive expertise in a related
field. How about it, Frank? JimH? Feds need folks who are in touch with
reality when it comes to anything to do with spectum and frequency
management. Perhaps that would disqualify you both.


_


Department Of Commerce
Agency: National Telecommunications and Information Administration Sub
Agency: U.S. Department of Commerce Job Announcement Number:
NTIA-SSD-2005-0010 Telecommunications Specialist
SALARY RANGE: 52,468.00 - 81,747.00 USD per year OPEN PERIOD: Tuesday,
August 02, 2005
to Tuesday, August 23, 2005
SERIES & GRADE: GS-0391-11/12 POSITION INFORMATION: Competitive Service:
Career or Career Conditional Full-Time, Permanent
DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy - Washington DC Metro Area, DC
WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED:
All qualified U.S. Citizens.
AN EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY (EEO) EMPLOYER
MORE THAN ONE POSITION MAY BE FILLED THROUGH THIS VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT
JOB SUMMARY:
The National Telecommunications and Information Administration
(NTIA), an agency of the U.S. Department of Commerce, is the
Executive Branch's principal adviser on telecommunications and
information policy issues and manages the Federal agency use of the
radio spectrum.
This position is located in the National Telecommunications and
Information Administration's Office of Spectrum Management, Spectrum
Services Division, Frequency Assignment Branch. The personnel of
this Branch assist and advise the NTIA Associate Administrator for
Spectrum Management in managing and authorizing Federal government
use of the radio frequency spectrum.
KEY REQUIREMENTS:
One year of specialized experience at the next lower grade.
Must be able to obtain and hold a secret security clearance.
Overview Duties Qualifications and Evaluation Benefits and other
Information How to Apply
Send Mail to:
U.S. Department of Commerce
1401 Constitution Ave NW
Washington, DC 20230
Fax: 301-562-8968 For questions about this job:
Pam King
Phone: 202-482-1751
Fax: 301-562-8968
TDD: 202-482-3438
Internet:



Frank Gilliland August 12th 05 11:25 PM

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:21:21 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
:

I can think of many who have ideas on this, but only a few here could
pass the security clearance and have the ("desired" even if the ad
doesn't say it) military background and extensive expertise in a related
field. How about it, Frank? JimH? Feds need folks who are in touch with
reality when it comes to anything to do with spectum and frequency
management. Perhaps that would disqualify you both.



Hmmm..... why would a spectrum allocation advisor need a security
clearance?






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an old friend August 12th 05 11:58 PM


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:21:21 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in
:

I can think of many who have ideas on this, but only a few here could
pass the security clearance and have the ("desired" even if the ad
doesn't say it) military background and extensive expertise in a related
field. How about it, Frank? JimH? Feds need folks who are in touch with
reality when it comes to anything to do with spectum and frequency
management. Perhaps that would disqualify you both.



Hmmm..... why would a spectrum allocation advisor need a security
clearance?


the intent is of course to disqualify anyone that hasn't spend year
climbing the ladder

in the case of a clearance they would justify it by claiming it was
needed in order that someone could be told enough about our current
milcoms to advise on it







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AKC owns this NG August 13th 05 10:26 AM

another copy/paste by FUGGLY renter.


Jim Hampton August 13th 05 10:04 PM


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
I can think of many who have ideas on this, but only a few here could
pass the security clearance and have the ("desired" even if the ad
doesn't say it) military background and extensive expertise in a related
field. How about it, Frank? JimH? Feds need folks who are in touch with
reality when it comes to anything to do with spectum and frequency
management. Perhaps that would disqualify you both.


_


Department Of Commerce
Agency: National Telecommunications and Information Administration Sub
Agency: U.S. Department of Commerce Job Announcement Number:
NTIA-SSD-2005-0010 Telecommunications Specialist
SALARY RANGE: 52,468.00 - 81,747.00 USD per year OPEN PERIOD: Tuesday,
August 02, 2005
to Tuesday, August 23, 2005
SERIES & GRADE: GS-0391-11/12 POSITION INFORMATION: Competitive Service:
Career or Career Conditional Full-Time, Permanent
DUTY LOCATIONS: 1 vacancy - Washington DC Metro Area, DC
WHO MAY BE CONSIDERED:
All qualified U.S. Citizens.
AN EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY (EEO) EMPLOYER
MORE THAN ONE POSITION MAY BE FILLED THROUGH THIS VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT
JOB SUMMARY:
The National Telecommunications and Information Administration
(NTIA), an agency of the U.S. Department of Commerce, is the
Executive Branch's principal adviser on telecommunications and
information policy issues and manages the Federal agency use of the
radio spectrum.
This position is located in the National Telecommunications and
Information Administration's Office of Spectrum Management, Spectrum
Services Division, Frequency Assignment Branch. The personnel of
this Branch assist and advise the NTIA Associate Administrator for
Spectrum Management in managing and authorizing Federal government
use of the radio frequency spectrum.
KEY REQUIREMENTS:
One year of specialized experience at the next lower grade.
Must be able to obtain and hold a secret security clearance.
Overview Duties Qualifications and Evaluation Benefits and other
Information How to Apply
Send Mail to:
U.S. Department of Commerce
1401 Constitution Ave NW
Washington, DC 20230
Fax: 301-562-8968 For questions about this job:
Pam King
Phone: 202-482-1751
Fax: 301-562-8968
TDD: 202-482-3438
Internet:


Hello, Twist

Well, count me out as you can be sure one would need at a minimum a
bachelor's degree in engineering. Most likely, a master's degree. Also it
would probably help to have a degree in business administration, not to
mention experience. Note a prerequesite is to have one year's specialized
experience at the next lower grade level.

As to security clearance, all they'd have to do is read various newsgroups
and see what I've had to say about Bush. Forget it LOL. They want someone
who will line big money's pockets with more money ;)

The fortunate thing about it is that we are still free to argue and complain
about Washington. At least, so far.

How's the price of gas down there? Our has been going up one to three cents
every day for the last several days. It's been tough, but I finally had a
courrier deliver a package to me yesterday evening. Seems I have a job
offer at well over three times what I've been making :)

Needless to say, I've invited several friends over today and made the
requisite visit to the liquor store. I'm searching through my cds to find
"pennies from heaven". A lot better than "Brother, can you spare a dime?"
:))


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim




james August 13th 05 11:21 PM

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:04:36 GMT, "Jim Hampton"
wrote:

+As to security clearance, all they'd have to do is read various newsgroups
+and see what I've had to say about Bush. Forget it LOL. They want someone
+who will line big money's pockets with more money ;)

******

Looking at the job description, the clearance level is about as low a
level as there is.

james

james August 13th 05 11:27 PM

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:04:36 GMT, "Jim Hampton"
wrote:

+Well, count me out as you can be sure one would need at a minimum a
+bachelor's degree in engineering. Most likely, a master's degree. Also it
+would probably help to have a degree in business administration, not to
+mention experience. Note a prerequesite is to have one year's specialized
+experience at the next lower grade level.

*****

Looking at the job grade and again the description, my guess is BSEE
maximum is needed. I doubt that MSEE or higher is needed. Just a BSEE
and some experience in the industry or government divisions. Would
want someone with some communications background and familiar with
digital and analog modulation schemes and their relative bandwidths.
The job seems to be a paperwork job mostly.

could be wrong about the whole thing but that is my inference from the
job description. As for the pay thta is inline with a BSEE with
anywhere from 2 to 10 yrs experience. For the Washington DC area that
is adequate pay, considering the cost of living and housing.

james

james August 13th 05 11:34 PM

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:21:21 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

+I can think of many who have ideas on this, but only a few here could
+pass the security clearance and have the ("desired" even if the ad
+doesn't say it) military background and extensive expertise in a related
+field. How about it, Frank? JimH? Feds need folks who are in touch with
+reality when it comes to anything to do with spectum and frequency
+management. Perhaps that would disqualify you both.

*****

Actually that is one of the lower security clearances and is not that
difficult to get and maintain. IF you have no criminal background, no
membership in subversive organizations and not in severe debt, then
this clearance is easy to get.

james


james August 13th 05 11:39 PM

On 12 Aug 2005 14:35:14 -0700, "an_old_friend"
wrote:

+the job app is designed so that only someone who has spent years
+climbing the ladder saying the "right" things can even apply

*****

Somewhat true. This does seem to have someone internally identified.
Still this is published to an open job source and if a suitable
applicant from outside has the right work experience and education
level could be considered.

james


james August 13th 05 11:44 PM

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:25:57 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+Hmmm..... why would a spectrum allocation advisor need a security
+clearance?

*******

Considering that the majority of the frequency spectrum from 200 to
400 Mhz is DOD primary control might be a reason. Someone would need
more than casual knowledgable of some of the military communications
specs. That in itself requires a minimal security clearance. Several
other reasons I can think of. Not uncommon if one has to deal with
military spectrum usage.


james

Frank Gilliland August 14th 05 12:56 AM

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:44:03 GMT, james wrote
in :

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:25:57 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+Hmmm..... why would a spectrum allocation advisor need a security
+clearance?

*******

Considering that the majority of the frequency spectrum from 200 to
400 Mhz is DOD primary control might be a reason.



Which is used mostly for air-ground operations. They also hold huge
chunks from 2.7 to 45 GHz. So?


Someone would need
more than casual knowledgable of some of the military communications
specs.



Why? It's not like they have developed a "stealth" radio.....


That in itself requires a minimal security clearance. Several
other reasons I can think of. Not uncommon if one has to deal with
military spectrum usage.



I -have- dealt with military radio, from HF to microwaves. I still
don't see why allocation requires a security clearance.







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Frank Gilliland August 14th 05 01:02 AM

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:34:57 GMT, james wrote
in :

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:21:21 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

+I can think of many who have ideas on this, but only a few here could
+pass the security clearance and have the ("desired" even if the ad
+doesn't say it) military background and extensive expertise in a related
+field. How about it, Frank? JimH? Feds need folks who are in touch with
+reality when it comes to anything to do with spectum and frequency
+management. Perhaps that would disqualify you both.

*****

Actually that is one of the lower security clearances and is not that
difficult to get and maintain. IF you have no criminal background, no
membership in subversive organizations and not in severe debt, then
this clearance is easy to get.



Unless the system has changed in the past 20 years, there are three
levels of security clearance: 'confidential', 'secret' and 'top
secret'. It is -not- "one of the lower security clearances", and it is
-not- easy to get.







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james August 14th 05 08:39 PM

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:56:01 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+I -have- dealt with military radio, from HF to microwaves. I still
+don't see why allocation requires a security clearance.

****

As I said elsewhere, from my limited understanding is that the DoD
determines to some extent who and wh at job grades and titles require
what. Most likely there is something there that is not so obvious.

I have only specualted and I relenquish to your su perior knowledge.

james


Frank Gilliland August 14th 05 11:12 PM

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:39:37 GMT, james wrote
in :

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 16:56:01 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+I -have- dealt with military radio, from HF to microwaves. I still
+don't see why allocation requires a security clearance.

****

As I said elsewhere, from my limited understanding is that the DoD
determines to some extent who and wh at job grades and titles require
what. Most likely there is something there that is not so obvious.



It might even be a secret, huh?


I have only specualted and I relenquish to your su perior knowledge.



Even though the frequency allocation chart is publically available and
can be downloaded directly from the FCC website, I'm perfectly willing
to entertain any insight you might have into the secret processes
involved in its construction.







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james August 15th 05 03:25 AM

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:02:26 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+Actually that is one of the lower security clearances and is not that
+difficult to get and maintain. IF you have no criminal background, no
+membership in subversive organizations and not in severe debt, then
+this clearance is easy to get.
+
+
+Unless the system has changed in the past 20 years, there are three
+levels of security clearance: 'confidential', 'secret' and 'top
+secret'. It is -not- "one of the lower security clearances", and it is
+-not- easy to get.

******

Well My brother holds a secret clearance and his job grade was down
graded from top secret. I thought he mentioned that was the lowest
clearance and he was glad to be there and not at top secret. But then
I maybe wrong and Frank you maybe right.

Besides I never could see the reason for top secret to track satellite
launches either, but there at one time must have been. He would never
tell the reason and I never pushed the issue out of respect for the
clearance and his job.

Why security clearances are issued and required is not always very
obcious. I think in part it is what budget the department has and what
the DoD determines is necessary for the job grade.

james


james

Frank Gilliland August 15th 05 03:26 AM

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:09:41 GMT, wrote in
:

snip
BTW, the DoD security clearance "creep"' over the years used to have
the confi clearance as the most common.

Today, it seems as if secret is the most common clearance.



Probably because they have had too many people exposing too many of
the government's dirty little secrets. Like their 50-caliber sniper
rifle..... can you say "Geneva Convention"?






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Frank Gilliland August 15th 05 03:39 AM

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:25:04 GMT, james wrote
in :

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:02:26 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+Actually that is one of the lower security clearances and is not that
+difficult to get and maintain. IF you have no criminal background, no
+membership in subversive organizations and not in severe debt, then
+this clearance is easy to get.
+
+
+Unless the system has changed in the past 20 years, there are three
+levels of security clearance: 'confidential', 'secret' and 'top
+secret'. It is -not- "one of the lower security clearances", and it is
+-not- easy to get.

******

Well My brother holds a secret clearance and his job grade was down
graded from top secret. I thought he mentioned that was the lowest
clearance and he was glad to be there and not at top secret. But then
I maybe wrong and Frank you maybe right.



If his clearance was "top secret" he shouldn't have even told you. If
he -did- have it he probably lost it -because- he told you.


Besides I never could see the reason for top secret to track satellite
launches either, but there at one time must have been. He would never
tell the reason and I never pushed the issue out of respect for the
clearance and his job.



I take it that you've never heard of spy satellites? Space-based
weapons? Even some of the less-than-secret communication satellites
and space probes have very hot nuclear materials for power and need to
be tracked just in case they fail to reach orbit (it has happened
before, and because of it the entire planet has now been exposed to
Plutonium 239).


Why security clearances are issued and required is not always very
obcious. I think in part it is what budget the department has and what
the DoD determines is necessary for the job grade.



Most government secrets are justified, but a lot of secrecy has to do
with the government breaking it's own laws and international treaties.
That's not just a fact -- it's a time-honored tradition.







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an_old_friend August 15th 05 06:57 AM


Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:25:04 GMT, james wrote
in :

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:02:26 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+Actually that is one of the lower security clearances and is not that
+difficult to get and maintain. IF you have no criminal background, no
+membership in subversive organizations and not in severe debt, then
+this clearance is easy to get.
+
+
+Unless the system has changed in the past 20 years, there are three
+levels of security clearance: 'confidential', 'secret' and 'top
+secret'. It is -not- "one of the lower security clearances", and it is
+-not- easy to get.

******

Well My brother holds a secret clearance and his job grade was down
graded from top secret. I thought he mentioned that was the lowest
clearance and he was glad to be there and not at top secret. But then
I maybe wrong and Frank you maybe right.



If his clearance was "top secret" he shouldn't have even told you. If
he -did- have it he probably lost it -because- he told you.


Besides I never could see the reason for top secret to track satellite
launches either, but there at one time must have been. He would never
tell the reason and I never pushed the issue out of respect for the
clearance and his job.



I take it that you've never heard of spy satellites? Space-based
weapons? Even some of the less-than-secret communication satellites
and space probes have very hot nuclear materials for power and need to
be tracked just in case they fail to reach orbit (it has happened
before, and because of it the entire planet has now been exposed to
Plutonium 239).


Why security clearances are issued and required is not always very
obcious. I think in part it is what budget the department has and what
the DoD determines is necessary for the job grade.



break
Most government secrets are justified, but a lot of secrecy has to do
with the government breaking it's own laws and international treaties.
That's not just a fact -- it's a time-honored tradition.


to enlarge on your statement... even more secrecy has to do with
maintaining appeanrces and the "face" of some folks involved For
example It is my understand that what a certain General had for meals
in "nam is still a secert so as not to emabarrish the miliatry admiting
that in diet and and housing etc rank doeth have its preledges"







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Frank Gilliland August 15th 05 08:51 AM

On 14 Aug 2005 22:57:40 -0700, "an_old_friend"
wrote in .com:

break
Most government secrets are justified, but a lot of secrecy has to do
with the government breaking it's own laws and international treaties.
That's not just a fact -- it's a time-honored tradition.


to enlarge on your statement... even more secrecy has to do with
maintaining appeanrces and the "face" of some folks involved For
example It is my understand that what a certain General had for meals
in "nam is still a secert so as not to emabarrish the miliatry admiting
that in diet and and housing etc rank doeth have its preledges"



Very true. When the Nassau docked in Haifa (1984), an unnamed Major
gave us the standard "behave yourselves, kiddies" speech before we
were released on liberty. That very night he (the Major) got drunk,
staggered into the street, got himself hit by a taxi and permanently
paralyzed. That's bad PR so they called in all the witnesses and swore
them to secrecy about the staggering-around-drunk part of the story.

BTW, for his "heroism" this Major went on to become an Olympic
torch-bearer.








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I AmnotGeorgeBush August 15th 05 03:29 PM

Well, count me out as you can be sure one

would need at a minimum a bachelor's degree
in engineering.




Dunno,,,,,the ad didn't specify anything like that. I do know that the
military and the feds aren't run as tight as they would like to have us
think, these days. I know that the military and the feds have lowered
the bar for just about everything.

Most likely, a master's degree. Also it would


probably help to have a degree in business


administration, not to mention experience.


Note a prerequesite is to have one year's


specialized experience at the next lower grade
level.



Yea..I saw that, but then it also says "all qualified "US citizens". I
assume that would include civilians.



As to security clearance, all they'd have to do


is read various newsgroups and see what I've


had to say about Bush. Forget it LOL. They


want someone who will line big money's


pockets with more money ;)


The fortunate thing about it is that we are still


free to argue and complain about Washington.
At least, so far.


How's the price of gas down there?



Went up fast over the weekend. $2.49 locally, in Tampa it's a little
cheaper. $2.92 at the marina.


Our has been going up one to three cents


every day for the last several days. It's been


tough, but I finally had a courrier deliver a


package to me yesterday evening. Seems I


have a job offer at well over three times what


I've been making :)


Needless to say, I've invited several friends


over today and made the requisite visit to the


liquor store. I'm searching through my cds to


find "pennies from heaven".


Think I have "We're in the Money" somewhere from an old movie
soundtrack.

A lot better than


"Brother, can you spare a dime?"


:))


73 from Rochester, NY


Jim



Tell me about the job? Is it near your folks place? Perhaps you should
think about a vacation to see them before you accept the new position.
Best time of year is only a few months away.


I AmnotGeorgeBush August 15th 05 03:35 PM

From: (james)
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:21:21 -0400,
(I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
+I can think of many who have ideas on this, but only a few here could
+pass the security clearance and have the ("desired" even if the ad
+doesn't say it) military background and extensive expertise in a
related +field. How about it, Frank? JimH? Feds need folks who are in
touch with +reality when it comes to anything to do with spectum and
frequency +management. Perhaps that would disqualify you both. *****

Actually that is one of the lower security


clearances and is not that difficult to get and


maintain.




No doubt. White House still hasn't managed to explain how Jeff Gannon
subverted protocol and managed security clearance reserved only for
visiting dignitaries and tenured staff.

IF you have no criminal background, no


membership in subversive organizations and


not in severe debt, then this clearance is easy


to get.


james


"Subversive organizations". Think "John Birch Society" types. These
groups -are- the subversive groups. According to these type groups, the
BMG Record and Tape Club could be considered "subversive", but I hear
ya'!


I AmnotGeorgeBush August 15th 05 03:40 PM

Frank wrote:
Even though the frequency allocation chart is


publically available and can be downloaded


directly from the FCC website, I'm perfectly


willing to entertain any insight you might have


into the secret processes involved in its


construction.



How about auctions? Maybe they want security clearance to stop advance
speculation from leaking, so it at least looks like all businesses are
getting a fair shake by not knowing ahead of time what is being
auctioned, sold, whored, or given away.


james August 15th 05 08:59 PM

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:29:31 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

+Yea..I saw that, but then it also says "all qualified "US citizens". I
+assume that would include civilians.

*****

Most likely this is a civillian job.

james

james August 15th 05 09:10 PM

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:26:57 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:09:41 GMT, wrote in
:
+
+snip
+BTW, the DoD security clearance "creep"' over the years used to have
+the confi clearance as the most common.
+
+Today, it seems as if secret is the most common clearance.
+
+
+Probably because they have had too many people exposing too many of
+the government's dirty little secrets. Like their 50-caliber sniper
+rifle..... can you say "Geneva Convention"?
+
+

****

If you had taken time to read the full mesagge and conditions then you
would understood my comment of "easy". May be easy was not the best
word but if you have a clean record and meet the conditions required
one should not have too much difficulty in getting clearances.
Especially if your job requires it. Again if you have a clean record,
no subversive alliances and memberships to subversive groups and not
in debt to your eyeballs, you stand a pretty good chance of getting
clearances if the job you are applying for requires one. Guaranteed if
you are $100K in credit card debt on $35K income, you are not going to
get a clearance. Especially after 9/11. After 9/11 yes clearances
became more dififcult to get. Rummy did demand that all clearances be
reviewed and those that did not need one had theirs revoked.


james
+
+
+
+
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james August 15th 05 09:11 PM

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:39:06 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

+If his clearance was "top secret" he shouldn't have even told you. If
+he -did- have it he probably lost it -because- he told you.

****

I only learned about it after his job requirement no longer required
that clearance.

james.

AKC owns this NG August 16th 05 01:54 AM

you are such a retard


Jim Hampton August 16th 05 03:49 AM


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
Well, count me out as you can be sure one


would need at a minimum a bachelor's degree
in engineering.




Dunno,,,,,the ad didn't specify anything like that. I do know that the
military and the feds aren't run as tight as they would like to have us
think, these days. I know that the military and the feds have lowered
the bar for just about everything.

Most likely, a master's degree. Also it would


probably help to have a degree in business


administration, not to mention experience.


Note a prerequesite is to have one year's


specialized experience at the next lower grade
level.



Yea..I saw that, but then it also says "all qualified "US citizens". I
assume that would include civilians.



As to security clearance, all they'd have to do


is read various newsgroups and see what I've


had to say about Bush. Forget it LOL. They


want someone who will line big money's


pockets with more money ;)


The fortunate thing about it is that we are still


free to argue and complain about Washington.
At least, so far.


How's the price of gas down there?



Went up fast over the weekend. $2.49 locally, in Tampa it's a little
cheaper. $2.92 at the marina.


Our has been going up one to three cents


every day for the last several days. It's been


tough, but I finally had a courrier deliver a


package to me yesterday evening. Seems I


have a job offer at well over three times what


I've been making :)


Needless to say, I've invited several friends


over today and made the requisite visit to the


liquor store. I'm searching through my cds to


find "pennies from heaven".


Think I have "We're in the Money" somewhere from an old movie
soundtrack.

A lot better than


"Brother, can you spare a dime?"


:))


73 from Rochester, NY


Jim



Tell me about the job? Is it near your folks place? Perhaps you should
think about a vacation to see them before you accept the new position.
Best time of year is only a few months away.


Hello, Twist

Nope, it is up here. I really didn't think I'd land anything up here.
Meanwhile, I got a dollar an hour raise where I am and two other job offers
came in. The good one is still over 3 times what I am making, including the
buck an hour raise ;)


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim




Jim Hampton August 16th 05 03:50 AM


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
Well, count me out as you can be sure one


would need at a minimum a bachelor's degree
in engineering.




Dunno,,,,,the ad didn't specify anything like that. I do know that the
military and the feds aren't run as tight as they would like to have us
think, these days. I know that the military and the feds have lowered
the bar for just about everything.

Most likely, a master's degree. Also it would


probably help to have a degree in business


administration, not to mention experience.


Note a prerequesite is to have one year's


specialized experience at the next lower grade
level.



Yea..I saw that, but then it also says "all qualified "US citizens". I
assume that would include civilians.



As to security clearance, all they'd have to do


is read various newsgroups and see what I've


had to say about Bush. Forget it LOL. They


want someone who will line big money's


pockets with more money ;)


The fortunate thing about it is that we are still


free to argue and complain about Washington.
At least, so far.


How's the price of gas down there?



Went up fast over the weekend. $2.49 locally, in Tampa it's a little
cheaper. $2.92 at the marina.


Our has been going up one to three cents


every day for the last several days. It's been


tough, but I finally had a courrier deliver a


package to me yesterday evening. Seems I


have a job offer at well over three times what


I've been making :)


Needless to say, I've invited several friends


over today and made the requisite visit to the


liquor store. I'm searching through my cds to


find "pennies from heaven".


Think I have "We're in the Money" somewhere from an old movie
soundtrack.

A lot better than


"Brother, can you spare a dime?"


:))


73 from Rochester, NY


Jim



Tell me about the job? Is it near your folks place? Perhaps you should
think about a vacation to see them before you accept the new position.
Best time of year is only a few months away.


Oh, I forgot to add - they are grandfathering me to three weeks vacation to
start :))

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim





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