"Landshark" wrote in message
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:37:10 GMT, james wrote
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+Again, true story. Where did I say anything different? You need a
+feedback loop in order to reduce crossover distortion in a bipolar
+push-pull, but you can't put a feedback loop in an RF amp.
+
+
******

Well you can but it is difficult to keep the amp an amp and not an
oscillator. I was pointing out that Tubes and FETs are more usable for
audio applications than bipolar in my opinion.


I guess it depends on the specific application. There have been many
popular PA's built with bipolar transistors -- Peavey, Carver, Crown,
etc. -- and they work just fine. Power MOSFETs are fine for mobile
audio. But for audio preamps and compressors, tubes are the best
choice, IMO.


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For about 100 PEP output from a pair of 6LQ6s as compared to a pair of
6146Bs, I will take the 6146B every day.


Absolutely. Besides, they're cheaper. I've got a dynamotor on the
shelf collecting dust and just waiting for such an application.


+But my point was that PEP @ 100% mod = 4 x carrier, a fact which
+befuddles voodoo CB techs like Bill the self-proclaimed CB Amp God.
+

COrrect in that. A PEP level is 4 times that of the AM Carrier. That
is the power that should be used to determine maximum useful output in
my opinion.


What I see a lot is new and naive CBers getting took on linears. The
amp might be rated for, say, 100 watts, but they aren't told that's
PEP, and for AM they need to reduce the dead-key input until the
output drops to 25 watts. Nor are they told that they aren't very
linear and need a LP filter to keep from being heard in the neighbor's
television.

Yeah, I've said all this about a hundred times before, but it needs to
be said again every once in a while.


What do you think about Macintosh Audio equipment?

Landshark



They don't make audio equipment, they make computers.

McIntosh on the other hand makes fine, long lasting gear :)

Chad

"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote in message
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:37:10 GMT, james wrote
in :

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+Again, true story. Where did I say anything different? You need a
+feedback loop in order to reduce crossover distortion in a bipolar
+push-pull, but you can't put a feedback loop in an RF amp.
+
+
******

Well you can but it is difficult to keep the amp an amp and not an
oscillator. I was pointing out that Tubes and FETs are more usable for
audio applications than bipolar in my opinion.


I guess it depends on the specific application. There have been many
popular PA's built with bipolar transistors -- Peavey, Carver, Crown,
etc. -- and they work just fine. Power MOSFETs are fine for mobile
audio. But for audio preamps and compressors, tubes are the best
choice, IMO.


snip
For about 100 PEP output from a pair of 6LQ6s as compared to a pair of
6146Bs, I will take the 6146B every day.


Absolutely. Besides, they're cheaper. I've got a dynamotor on the
shelf collecting dust and just waiting for such an application.


+But my point was that PEP @ 100% mod = 4 x carrier, a fact which
+befuddles voodoo CB techs like Bill the self-proclaimed CB Amp God.
+

COrrect in that. A PEP level is 4 times that of the AM Carrier. That
is the power that should be used to determine maximum useful output in
my opinion.


What I see a lot is new and naive CBers getting took on linears. The
amp might be rated for, say, 100 watts, but they aren't told that's
PEP, and for AM they need to reduce the dead-key input until the
output drops to 25 watts. Nor are they told that they aren't very
linear and need a LP filter to keep from being heard in the neighbor's
television.

Yeah, I've said all this about a hundred times before, but it needs to
be said again every once in a while.


What do you think about Macintosh Audio equipment?

Landshark



They don't make audio equipment, they make computers.

McIntosh on the other hand makes fine, long lasting gear :)

Chad


Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark


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Thunder and lightning couldn't be bolder.
I'll write on your tombstone, ``I thank you for dinner.''
This game that we animals play is a winner.

"Landshark" wrote:
Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark

Hello Shark. One of my friends brother was into that brand of gear from way
back when. It was loud and as I remember it, his gear was also moved to the
party the most. I think Neil Young is a fan of their stuff iirc.

"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:
Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark

Hello Shark. One of my friends brother was into that brand of gear from
way
back when. It was loud and as I remember it, his gear was also moved to
the
party the most. I think Neil Young is a fan of their stuff iirc.

What's happening Mopar..... I knew a couple
of people that were into that gear. Though I like
Neil music, he's ****ing jerk!! Met him a couple of times
at some real small bars by his home (He lives way out
in the sticks), when I was just out of high school. Then
went out to his ranch to help a friend do an audio/video
system install. He wanted it done right away and offered
a $100.00 tip to each of us. We finished what he wanted
by the end of the day, he gives us each, 1/2 of a 100.00
bill and wanted us to comeback the next day to do some
other work we weren't hired to do.

Landshark


--
The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature,
or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland

"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:
Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark

Hello Shark. One of my friends brother was into that brand of gear from
way
back when. It was loud and as I remember it, his gear was also moved to
the
party the most. I think Neil Young is a fan of their stuff iirc.

Many acts toured with "mac" amps before there was the crown,crest, QSC
buisness. The dead toured with tons of old tube stuff than later switched
to SS. I have a bunch of the SS amps here at work that have huge ass output
transformers!!! Yes, transistors and OT's, pretty crazy to work on but look
at it thai way, if they blow up they will not go DC into your speakers!
Just trash an irreplaceable OT :)

They are designed for the long haul and hold their value well. If you find
a preamp, receiver, or amp for a good price and you have the money, I
recommend it, they are units for life.

Chad

Landshark wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:

Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark


Hello Shark. One of my friends brother was into that brand of gear from
way
back when. It was loud and as I remember it, his gear was also moved to
the
party the most. I think Neil Young is a fan of their stuff iirc.


What's happening Mopar..... I knew a couple
of people that were into that gear. Though I like
Neil music, he's ****ing jerk!! Met him a couple of times
at some real small bars by his home (He lives way out
in the sticks), when I was just out of high school. Then
went out to his ranch to help a friend do an audio/video
system install. He wanted it done right away and offered
a $100.00 tip to each of us. We finished what he wanted
by the end of the day, he gives us each, 1/2 of a 100.00
bill and wanted us to comeback the next day to do some
other work we weren't hired to do.

Landshark


you and lynard skynard are in agreement then.
ever get paid?

jim wrote:
Landshark wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:

Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark


Hello Shark. One of my friends brother was into that brand of gear from
way
back when. It was loud and as I remember it, his gear was also moved to
the
party the most. I think Neil Young is a fan of their stuff iirc.


What's happening Mopar..... I knew a couple
of people that were into that gear. Though I like
Neil music, he's ****ing jerk!! Met him a couple of times
at some real small bars by his home (He lives way out
in the sticks), when I was just out of high school. Then
went out to his ranch to help a friend do an audio/video
system install. He wanted it done right away and offered
a $100.00 tip to each of us. We finished what he wanted
by the end of the day, he gives us each, 1/2 of a 100.00
bill and wanted us to comeback the next day to do some
other work we weren't hired to do.

Landshark


you and lynard skynard are in agreement then.

Alabama, you got the weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back.
Your Cadillac has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track


ever get paid?

"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:
Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark

Hello Shark. One of my friends brother was into that brand of gear from
way
back when. It was loud and as I remember it, his gear was also moved to
the
party the most. I think Neil Young is a fan of their stuff iirc.

What's happening Mopar..... I knew a couple
of people that were into that gear. Though I like
Neil music, he's ****ing jerk!! Met him a couple of times
at some real small bars by his home (He lives way out
in the sticks), when I was just out of high school. Then
went out to his ranch to help a friend do an audio/video
system install. He wanted it done right away and offered
a $100.00 tip to each of us. We finished what he wanted
by the end of the day, he gives us each, 1/2 of a 100.00
bill and wanted us to comeback the next day to do some
other work we weren't hired to do.

Landshark

Shoulda hit him up for some Lionel trains! :)

"jim" wrote in message
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Landshark wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:

Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark


Hello Shark. One of my friends brother was into that brand of gear from
way
back when. It was loud and as I remember it, his gear was also moved to
the
party the most. I think Neil Young is a fan of their stuff iirc.


What's happening Mopar..... I knew a couple
of people that were into that gear. Though I like
Neil music, he's ****ing jerk!! Met him a couple of times
at some real small bars by his home (He lives way out
in the sticks), when I was just out of high school. Then
went out to his ranch to help a friend do an audio/video
system install. He wanted it done right away and offered
a $100.00 tip to each of us. We finished what he wanted
by the end of the day, he gives us each, 1/2 of a 100.00
bill and wanted us to comeback the next day to do some
other work we weren't hired to do.

Landshark


you and lynard skynard are in agreement then.
ever get paid?

LOL!!! Yeah, the next day of course (In 1977 $100.00
was a lot of money).

Landshark


--
The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature,
or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland

"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:
Yes, I stand corrected, thanks.

Landshark

Hello Shark. One of my friends brother was into that brand of gear from
way
back when. It was loud and as I remember it, his gear was also moved to
the
party the most. I think Neil Young is a fan of their stuff iirc.

What's happening Mopar..... I knew a couple
of people that were into that gear. Though I like
Neil music, he's ****ing jerk!! Met him a couple of times
at some real small bars by his home (He lives way out
in the sticks), when I was just out of high school. Then
went out to his ranch to help a friend do an audio/video
system install. He wanted it done right away and offered
a $100.00 tip to each of us. We finished what he wanted
by the end of the day, he gives us each, 1/2 of a 100.00
bill and wanted us to comeback the next day to do some
other work we weren't hired to do.

Landshark

Shoulda hit him up for some Lionel trains! :)

LOL!!! I was just glad to get the other half of the bill.

Landshark


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Kindness is the language which the deaf
can hear and the blind can see.