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Old September 28th 05, 05:49 PM
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On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:07:43 -0500) it happened "Chad Wahls"
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yPhasers do work They have done a good job of protecting all the
broadcast equipment I have installed over the years and they have protected
many ham and CB rigs also.

http://www.polyphaser.com/kommerce_p...px?class=M0044

Chad

Hi Chad, thank you! lots of info on that site.
I just did read this:
http://www.polyphaser.com/ppc_TD1016.aspx
and it gives me some good ideas how to do things.
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Old September 30th 05, 09:26 PM
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"Jan Panteltje" wrote in message
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On a sunny day (Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:07:43 -0500) it happened "Chad Wahls"
wrote in :

yPhasers do work They have done a good job of protecting all the
broadcast equipment I have installed over the years and they have

protected
many ham and CB rigs also.

http://www.polyphaser.com/kommerce_p...px?class=M0044

Chad

Hi Chad, thank you! lots of info on that site.
I just did read this:
http://www.polyphaser.com/ppc_TD1016.aspx
and it gives me some good ideas how to do things.


A direct strike will vaporize that little box. Not to dis polyphaser, they
make some excellent products all up and down the line but those discharge
tubes WILL NOT protect against a direct strike. NONE, NADA.

Kevin, WB5RUE



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Old September 30th 05, 11:59 PM
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On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:26:20 -0500) it happened "Kevin, WB5RUE"
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I just did read this:
http://www.polyphaser.com/ppc_TD1016.aspx
and it gives me some good ideas how to do things.


A direct strike will vaporize that little box. Not to dis polyphaser, they
make some excellent products all up and down the line but those discharge
tubes WILL NOT protect against a direct strike. NONE, NADA.

Kevin, WB5RUE

I am aware of that Kevin, but it has some great ideas how to make good earth
at the mast, and also it reminded me to somehow connect the coax screen to the
mast, now it is isolated.
Probably the GPA base will flash over, but better if the electrons go to
ground then if these go down the coax (outside) even if it is disconnected.
There are some other good suggestions on that site too...

In any case I will try to get my lightning detector working, and disconnect
if it detects anything.

As for the lightning detection electronics - I am now planning on the tuned
ferrite rod, followed by a FET then by a PIC microcontroller... the
small ones I have can replace a LOT of logic for pulse detection and
processing, and have a comparator build in to detect precise voltage levels.
PIC12F629 I have here a box full of...
The advantage is that I can re-program the thing once I get a better idea
what the lighting signals look like (so less false alarm).
The price of these PICs is about a dollar :-) Only 8 pins DIL, internal
oscillator, few micro amps power, hardly any other components needed,
except for a beeper of sorts as alarm.



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"Jan Panteltje" wrote in message
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On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:26:20 -0500) it happened "Kevin,

WB5RUE"
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:
I just did read this:
http://www.polyphaser.com/ppc_TD1016.aspx
and it gives me some good ideas how to do things.


A direct strike will vaporize that little box. Not to dis polyphaser,

they
make some excellent products all up and down the line but those discharge
tubes WILL NOT protect against a direct strike. NONE, NADA.

Kevin, WB5RUE

I am aware of that Kevin, but it has some great ideas how to make good

earth
at the mast, and also it reminded me to somehow connect the coax screen to

the
mast, now it is isolated.
Probably the GPA base will flash over, but better if the electrons go to
ground then if these go down the coax (outside) even if it is

disconnected.
There are some other good suggestions on that site too...

In any case I will try to get my lightning detector working, and

disconnect
if it detects anything.

As for the lightning detection electronics - I am now planning on the

tuned
ferrite rod, followed by a FET then by a PIC microcontroller... the
small ones I have can replace a LOT of logic for pulse detection and
processing, and have a comparator build in to detect precise voltage

levels.
PIC12F629 I have here a box full of...
The advantage is that I can re-program the thing once I get a better idea
what the lighting signals look like (so less false alarm).
The price of these PICs is about a dollar :-) Only 8 pins DIL, internal
oscillator, few micro amps power, hardly any other components needed,
except for a beeper of sorts as alarm.



It doesn't matter really how good your ground system is. If your antenna
takes a direct strike and 99.999% of the energy goes into the ground you
will still get several thousand volts (or hundreds of thousands of volts)
coming down your coax. Unless you are willing to spend thousands of dollars
on an active lightning protection system your only protection is to
disconnect.

Kevin, WB5RUE



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