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[email protected] November 7th 05 08:50 PM

Mobile Installation
 
Ok, I have decided to go with the 102" steel whip with 6" spring for a
total of 108" or 1/4 wave. I am planning on mounting the antenna
behind the driver side on the bedrail approx. 12-18" from the cab. It
is an older Dodge ram long-wheel base, so the drilling is not a problem
for where I am going to mount the antenna. (long wheel base may give me
a real good ground plane, hopefully) I am running a Cobra 25 LTD in
the truck. The antenna mounting bracket is aluminum I believe, so I
may need to fabricate one myself from steel for good grounding.


Also, I am hunting some coax for my base setup. I want to go with RG8
I believe, but RG58 is all I can seem to find in the 30-50' range.
Will there be too much loss with the RG58? I can get a length custom
made, but I need it soon and the CB shop is down for now. It is a
Cobra 142 GTL radio with an Antron 99 antenna with the top section
replaced with another 102" steel whip after the wind took the original
someplace else.

Any thoughts or suggestions on these two setups will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


Scott in Baltimore November 7th 05 09:09 PM

Mobile Installation
 
wrote:
Ok, I have decided to go with the 102" steel whip with 6" spring for a
total of 108" or 1/4 wave. I am planning on mounting the antenna
behind the driver side on the bedrail approx. 12-18" from the cab. It
is an older Dodge ram long-wheel base, so the drilling is not a problem
for where I am going to mount the antenna. (long wheel base may give me
a real good ground plane, hopefully) I am running a Cobra 25 LTD in
the truck. The antenna mounting bracket is aluminum I believe, so I
may need to fabricate one myself from steel for good grounding.


Also, I am hunting some coax for my base setup. I want to go with RG8
I believe, but RG58 is all I can seem to find in the 30-50' range.
Will there be too much loss with the RG58? I can get a length custom
made, but I need it soon and the CB shop is down for now. It is a
Cobra 142 GTL radio with an Antron 99 antenna with the top section
replaced with another 102" steel whip after the wind took the original
someplace else.

Any thoughts or suggestions on these two setups will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


Get some RG-8m and put your own connectors on it. Coax length
does NOT matter. A properly installed 1/4 wave will have an
SWR of 1.56:1 because it is a 30 ohm antenna. Do not trim
antenna or coax trying to get less then 1.56:1, it won't
happen and it won't affect the radio either.

Jack O'Neill November 7th 05 11:32 PM

Mobile Installation
 
Scott in Baltimore wrote:

wrote:

Ok, I have decided to go with the 102" steel whip with 6" spring for a
total of 108" or 1/4 wave. I am planning on mounting the antenna
behind the driver side on the bedrail approx. 12-18" from the cab. It
is an older Dodge ram long-wheel base, so the drilling is not a problem
for where I am going to mount the antenna. (long wheel base may give me
a real good ground plane, hopefully) I am running a Cobra 25 LTD in
the truck. The antenna mounting bracket is aluminum I believe, so I
may need to fabricate one myself from steel for good grounding.


Also, I am hunting some coax for my base setup. I want to go with RG8
I believe, but RG58 is all I can seem to find in the 30-50' range.
Will there be too much loss with the RG58? I can get a length custom
made, but I need it soon and the CB shop is down for now. It is a
Cobra 142 GTL radio with an Antron 99 antenna with the top section
replaced with another 102" steel whip after the wind took the original
someplace else.

Any thoughts or suggestions on these two setups will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks


Get some RG-8m and put your own connectors on it. Coax length
does NOT matter. A properly installed 1/4 wave will have an
SWR of 1.56:1 because it is a 30 ohm antenna. Do not trim
antenna or coax trying to get less then 1.56:1, it won't
happen and it won't affect the radio either.


It should be a 50 ohm antenna. RG-8 is fine, NOT radio shack junk.
If not RG-8X (or M) is fine. If you use the 8X or M, you will need a
reducer.
THe one for 59 U is the one you will need, NOT a reducer for 58U. RG-8X
is the physical size of RG-59U (cable stuff)

Scott in Baltimore November 7th 05 11:55 PM

Mobile Installation
 
It should be a 50 ohm antenna. RG-8 is fine, NOT radio shack junk.
If not RG-8X (or M) is fine. If you use the 8X or M, you will need a
reducer.
THe one for 59 U is the one you will need, NOT a reducer for 58U. RG-8X
is the physical size of RG-59U (cable stuff)


For CB use, the RS RG-8m is just fine. You need RG-175 reducers for RG-58,
and RG-176 reducers for RG-8m. I'm using Belden "Truck King" RG-8m that I
picked up at a CB shop some years ago. I'm also using a bunch of RS RG-8m
for short runs on 2 meters. (20 feet maximum) For HF, RG-8m is fine for
runs of up to 50 feet. On VHF you want something better if you run more
then 15 or 20 feet. Couplers get touchy at VHF. Imagine UHF!!!

[email protected] November 8th 05 05:12 AM

Mobile Installation
 
Would there be too much loss in RG-58 coax for the base? Only a 30-50'
run.

I don't think the mobile installation matters all that much, but I
could be wrong. I might try to find some Mini 8 for the mobile, RG 8
will prolly be too bundlesome. If not, I will try some RG-58 with it
as well.

Will this be going in the wrong direction entirely (too much loss)?


[email protected] November 8th 05 06:06 AM

Mobile Installation
 
Another thing, I see lots of discussion on the 102 vs 108" (spring)
whip. Does anyone have a straight answer. I can discontinue the use
of the spring if it is that advantageous. Please, someone let me know.
I just want (like everyone else) low SWR, and max power out the whip.

Thanks again


Ken November 8th 05 07:31 AM

Mobile Installation
 
I use 102" whip, 6" & another 4" firestik heavy duty spring. I'm running a
magnum 257 w/extended coverage.
(Hams can do that legally), my swr is darn near flat 40 above & 40 below.
Experiment & see what works best
for you. Every installation is different.

wrote in message
ups.com...
Another thing, I see lots of discussion on the 102 vs 108" (spring)
whip. Does anyone have a straight answer. I can discontinue the use
of the spring if it is that advantageous. Please, someone let me know.
I just want (like everyone else) low SWR, and max power out the whip.

Thanks again




Scott in Baltimore November 8th 05 08:10 AM

Mobile Installation
 
Ken wrote:
I use 102" whip, 6" & another 4" firestik heavy duty spring. I'm running a
magnum 257 w/extended coverage.
(Hams can do that legally), my swr is darn near flat 40 above & 40 below.


Hmmm....

You can modify any radio to operate in an amateur allocation.
You can't use a Part 97 radio on any type-accepted service.

I can use my 2950 on 10 meters. I'm not supposed to move the
jumpers and use it on 11 meters.

With that said, don't get caught. I've used my IC-2100 on MURS
and my HTX-420 on FRS and my 2950 on 11 meters...

(too many damn rules!)

Anyone got a 420MHz AM ATV setup for sale, cheap?

[email protected] November 8th 05 09:31 PM

Mobile Installation
 
I think he might want to read over the rules again. It's a damn good
thing they make you take a test for a "ticket". ;^)


Scott in Baltimore November 9th 05 01:10 AM

Mobile Installation
 
wrote:
I think he might want to read over the rules again. It's a damn good
thing they make you take a test for a "ticket". ;^)


Speaking of rules, some of those FCC actions included a discussion
of the "export" radios. It said the OET has a list of 10 meter
radios that are actually CB transceivers as this "feature" can
be added/restored with a jumper or wire. They now claim these
radios are illegal to use in the USA. I would assume if you are
an amateur with a valid General class ticket with an unmodified
2950, you would be OK. If you're caught with the jumpers moved,
you're in deep doo doo. Bottom line, an "export" or 10 meter CB
is not legal to use, period.

Reality - If you're not bothering anyone and staying on regular
channels, no one will notice or bother you. If you run a clipped
radio into a class C splatterbox at maximum deadkey, you get
what you deserve!

Now go talk on a radio somewhere, dammit! It takes the same kind
of person to sit behind a mike and talk to strangers whether it's
on Part 95 or Part 97. White, black, male, female. Same thing...


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