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Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
The question and answer below was posted in another forum. Is the answer
correct? Did the 23 channel radios effectively lose type acceptance circa 1987 and are not supposed to be used on CB after that time? Question: I've heard about that from time to time but never understood - why are 23-channel CBs illegal to sell? Answer: Because they are no longer type accepted. Anything after 1987 that is a 23 Ch rig is no longer type accepted and can no longer be sold, traded, given away, or of course used on the air.. But try to tell that to all the guys that collect the old Trams and Brownings! |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
Michael Herron wrote:
The question and answer below was posted in another forum. Is the answer correct? Did the 23 channel radios effectively lose type acceptance circa 1987 and are not supposed to be used on CB after that time? Question: I've heard about that from time to time but never understood - why are 23-channel CBs illegal to sell? Answer: Because they are no longer type accepted. Anything after 1987 that is a 23 Ch rig is no longer type accepted and can no longer be sold, traded, given away, or of course used on the air.. But try to tell that to all the guys that collect the old Trams and Brownings! 40 channels radios became legal on January 1, 1977, 10 years before 1987. I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! They didn't lose their type acceptance. They are grandfathered. All the other rules apply. If you modify them to get the other 17 (or more) channels from them you lose your authority to operate it. Same as any other transmitter adjustment that results in more then 4 watts carrier or greater then 90/95% modulation. If the radio you're running is clean and clear and not bothering anybody, just go ahead and use it. If you start getting complaints, don't ignore them. Chances are real good, you'll lose. Happy radioing! |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
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... I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just evil.. lol. Regards, Graham -- --------------- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
Thanks for all the input. The inquiry was posed mostly to determine the
accuracy of the statement as I did not think it was much at all correct. The premise seemed to be that since the newer radios were 40 channel, 23 channels would not be type accepted for sale anymore. I was thinking this would mean they all had to be 40 channel. If that were the case what about walkie talkies for CB? Wouldn't they have to be 40 channel as well then if over 100 milliwatts? Although I don't know for sure, I thought that there are still walkie talkies that had only a handfull of channels. Buying an old 23 channel CB would be either for collectors or just for nostalga of owning one that you thought was really cool back then but wasn't affordable like a Tram Titan 2 or a Browning rig or a Courier Royale. They were very well built radios but expensive when I was on back in the late 60's. The ham gear that was run by a very few back then were Viking Valiants, Heathkit DX-100's and National NC-300 receivers. The Yaesu Ft-101 series became very popular as they came out since you only had to clip the wire to enable the CB band. It was interesting that there was a cutout in the chassis to easily access the wire which ran right across it! I had a lot of fun on Cb but outgrew it in a couple years. I have been a ham since 1970. I am in support of all CB ops who want to become hams unlike many others. Soon the code will be dropped and it will be easy to get a license. GOOD! The more hams the better! I would love to see a day when even though 10 meters is dead for skip conditions there are a bunch of hams on 10 talking anyway. If ya want to, hop on board! This is one 20wpm extra class, took the tests in the FCC office, OM that IS supportive. "The Magnum" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just evil.. lol. Regards, Graham -- --------------- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:57:01 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote: wrote in message .. . I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just evil.. lol. Regards, Graham One of my trucks has an old 23 channel radio in it. I think it sounds better than some of the new "junk" out there. All my radios are stuck on channel 19, so why would I want a 40 channel radio? |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
"Lancer" wrote in message ews.com... On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:57:01 -0000, "The Magnum" wrote: wrote in message .. . I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just evil.. lol. Regards, Graham One of my trucks has an old 23 channel radio in it. I think it sounds better than some of the new "junk" out there. All my radios are stuck on channel 19, so why would I want a 40 channel radio? You probably don't, until someone you want to listen to goes above ch 23. As far as junk out there goes you don't have to buy new to get a 40ch. They have been around since 1977 so there's plenty of good units to choose from. Regards, Graham -- _._. _... _._ ._ _.. .. _ _ _ Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:57:01 -0000, "The Magnum" wrote: wrote in message . .. I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just evil.. lol. Regards, Graham One of my trucks has an old 23 channel radio in it. I think it sounds better than some of the new "junk" out there. All my radios are stuck on channel 19, so why would I want a 40 channel radio? You can buy any radio as long as it was "type acceptance" when it was new! Its the same thing with police scanners that received the 800MHz cell phones. You can buy them used without a problem. As long as they were type accepted at the time of manufacture. |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
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Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
"DrDeath" wrote in message ... "The Magnum" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just evil.. lol. Regards, Graham -- --------------- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham I hate to say it, but I have several 23 channel radios. My favorite of the bunch is my cam 89 with turner +3. But not everyone has a pile of radios piled in the corner. Yes but you obviously collect them and don't use them. Nothing wrong with that. In fact I guess there's nothing wrong with running a 23 channel rig but for someone earlier to say there's nothing ever been produced since 23 channel rigs that's any good gave me a good laugh. In fact I just had to stop typing as I was laughing some more just thinking about it.. lolol Regards, Graham -- _._. _... _._ ._ _.. .. _ _ _ Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:55:17 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote: "DrDeath" wrote in message ... "The Magnum" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just evil.. lol. Regards, Graham -- --------------- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham I hate to say it, but I have several 23 channel radios. My favorite of the bunch is my cam 89 with turner +3. But not everyone has a pile of radios piled in the corner. Yes but you obviously collect them and don't use them. Nothing wrong with that. In fact I guess there's nothing wrong with running a 23 channel rig but for someone earlier to say there's nothing ever been produced since 23 channel rigs that's any good gave me a good laugh. In fact I just had to stop typing as I was laughing some more just thinking about it.. lolol Regards, Graham No actually I said its better than some of the new junk out there, not nothing that has ever been produced since 23 channel rigs. If you weren't so busy laughing and LOL'ing you just might be able to quote correctly. I never stated which 23 channel rig I was comparing to the new radios. Are you that up on the radios that you can state that all the new radios are better than my 23 channel radio? In fact I just had to stop typing as I was laughing some more just thinking about it.. lolol Regards Lancer |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
"Lancer" wrote in message ews.com... On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:55:17 -0000, "The Magnum" wrote: "DrDeath" wrote in message ... "The Magnum" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... I believe you can no longer sell, trade or give away 23 channel radios, but you _can_ sell the microphone and leave the radio attached! An individual can still sell or buy a 23 channel radio from another individual. The thing is why would you want a 23 channel radio? Collectors I can understand but not an average CB user. I see a few from time to time on sale on eBay and some fetch reasonable money. I remember back in the UK in 1980 a lad lived across the road from my then girlfriend and he had a 23 channel radio. We always went to channel 24 just to wind him up... I guess im just evil.. lol. Regards, Graham -- --------------- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham I hate to say it, but I have several 23 channel radios. My favorite of the bunch is my cam 89 with turner +3. But not everyone has a pile of radios piled in the corner. Yes but you obviously collect them and don't use them. Nothing wrong with that. In fact I guess there's nothing wrong with running a 23 channel rig but for someone earlier to say there's nothing ever been produced since 23 channel rigs that's any good gave me a good laugh. In fact I just had to stop typing as I was laughing some more just thinking about it.. lolol Regards, Graham No actually I said its better than some of the new junk out there, not nothing that has ever been produced since 23 channel rigs. If you weren't so busy laughing and LOL'ing you just might be able to quote correctly. I never stated which 23 channel rig I was comparing to the new radios. Are you that up on the radios that you can state that all the new radios are better than my 23 channel radio? In fact I just had to stop typing as I was laughing some more just thinking about it.. lolol Regards Lancer Lancer my friend, you said in your previous statement the "new junk out there". If you have a 23 channel radio then "Anything" that has 40ch is a newer rig (Junk) it was you that wasn't being specific. I personally would only use them for doorstops but were all different so if your happy sitting there with your 23 channels mate you go for it. Pardon me while I chuckle to the others on channel 24 ;o) Regards, Graham -- _._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _ Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
Lancer my friend, you said in your previous statement the "new junk out
there". If you have a 23 channel radio then "Anything" that has 40ch is a newer rig (Junk) it was you that wasn't being specific. I personally would only use them for doorstops but were all different so if your happy sitting there with your 23 channels mate you go for it. Pardon me while I chuckle to the others on channel 24 ;o) Regards, Graham Magnum my friend, I said some of the new junk out there, not all of it. Note the word "some". Feel free to chuckle to the others on 24. You felt the need to laugh at my expense because I like using my 23 channel radio, feel free, your not the first one. Please don't misquote or read into what I posted. I laughed because it was funny. You can laugh at me if you like, it's of little consequence. Why take it personally. Regards, Graham -- _._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _ Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
"Lancer" wrote in message news:439019f5.153192515@2355323778... On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 15:41:20 -0000, "The Magnum" wrote: Lancer my friend, you said in your previous statement the "new junk out there". If you have a 23 channel radio then "Anything" that has 40ch is a newer rig (Junk) it was you that wasn't being specific. I personally would only use them for doorstops but were all different so if your happy sitting there with your 23 channels mate you go for it. Pardon me while I chuckle to the others on channel 24 ;o) Regards, Graham Magnum my friend, I said some of the new junk out there, not all of it. Note the word "some". Feel free to chuckle to the others on 24. You felt the need to laugh at my expense because I like using my 23 channel radio, feel free, your not the first one. Please don't misquote or read into what I posted. I laughed because it was funny. You can laugh at me if you like, it's of little consequence. Why take it personally. Regards, Graham I didn't... That's good then. Is your 23ch CB one with a cooker dial? Im not sure if they all were or if there was a few LED readout before they changed to 40Ch? I used to have an old Alan K350B I think it was which was quite a large 40ch radio and that had a cooker dial so maybe there's a few out there of both types. Regards, Graham -- _._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _ Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
And homebrewed. During the late sixties and even into the early seventies, many ops were running rigs homebrewed in the fifties. Yup although I never knew any in the late 60's, other than amps. I had a home brewed 6146 x2 and built a power supply for it from the '70 ARRL handbook as it was just the rf deck. I had a friend, also now a ham since '70, who had a home built amp with 4 572b's and a 4kv pwr supply. Gee, that was fun to run into a 5 element Cb Longjohn!! He had a set of Drake twins back then to drive it. Congrats. .....Thanks I am in support of all CB ops who want to become hams unlike many others. Many? Name two, just two of the "many" you purport do not support cb ops who have expressed a desire to get licensed. You're full of biased ****. Of course, you could always prove me wrong by illustrating two of the farcical "many" you claim do not support cb'ers seeking to get licensed. .....You are the one full of ****! Go to QRZ.com and check out the many threads regarding issues related to this and see what you think!! I am only too aware of all the orthodox hams out there! Soon the code will be dropped and it will be easy to get a license. It's easy to get a license now. ....Compared to when I got my (had them all) licenses it sure as hell is!! Try taking them in an FCC office when you know the engineer in charge has had complaints in the past about you bootlegging on CB! GOOD! The more hams the better! Being of the mindset that code prevents cb'ers from getting licensed is your right, but it's not correct and serves only to illustrate your own difficulty and prejudices concerning cw. Now, about this "many" of which you speak.... ....Trust me I can copy quite well. Contest speed is about 30 wpm, chit chat is about 20-23 wpm. I prefer to use CW for working DX or contests, but not so much for chit chat Q's. I am not by any means anti-cw. I just do not think proficiency in it suggests you will be sort of a "squared away ham". Nor do I think CW will die away. I do not find it to be either a reliable or valid indicator of overall proficiency in ham radio. Perhaps you think it would be best to have a typing test as an element for ham tests? No? Why not? RTTY, various digital modes such as PSK-31, all require typing to some degree. Hell! If you can't type you are gonna have a hard time competing in contests (should you desire to)! You pretty much have to be able to type well to log maybe 1000 Q's in a weekend contest into a logging program. It is not that Morse prevents CB'ers from becoming hams! Myself and several friends are sufficient proof of that! It is clearly the mindset of the learner that prevents them learning it and geetting a license! That is not the issue to me. My opinion is that there are more important things to know than Morse to get started in ham radio. "Many" only means a large number, numerous as defined by Mr. Webster. Pretty subjective definition don't you think?? It doesn't mean most or an overwhelming number, or even 51 percent, just "a lot". CUL in KW alley! _._ |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
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Many? Name two, just two of the "many" you purport do not support cb ops who have expressed a desire to get licensed. You're full of biased ****. Of course, you could always prove me wrong by illustrating two of the farcical "many" you claim do not support cb'ers seeking to get licensed. There are quite a few on this newsgroup who every day belittle people not holding full licences, CB'ers Intermediates/M3 alike. Mind you, the fact they are on here and not the radio makes me sometimes think are they genuine Hams or just Trolls. If you want me to name them ill take a few hours searching through the old threads but feel it to probably be a waste of my time as we all know who use these groups regularly who they are. In backing you up though ive yet to "meet" a Ham who doesn't encourage "good" CB radio users to progress into their hobby. The negative feelings seem to emanate from these newsgroups so I for one do not take it as commonplace the attitude of the few in here. I genuinely hope anyone thinking of progressing to the Amateur bands isn't put off by these Biased few. Regards, Graham -- _._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _ Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
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Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message Being of the mindset that code prevents cb'ers from getting licensed is your right, but it's not correct and serves only to illustrate your own difficulty and prejudices concerning cw. I agree, back in the mid 70's I started studying code, what kept me from obtaining my ham ticket was the way hams treated non hams. The glass is half empty from your perspective, half full from mine. There is no argument or contention among anyone that amateur radio declined when the nocode ticket was introduced. They could give ham tickets away for all I care. All I need is 11 meter SSB and a 150w footwarmer. |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
You made the claim, the burden of proof is one you. Touche!! You got me there! I yield! I am only too aware of all the orthodox hams out there! Which has nothing to do with your original claim. Ok, Let me rephrase my statement. Perhaps I was hasty in how I tried to convey what I was thinking. I shall try to restate my position. I am supportive of all those who wish to get a ham license regardless of the class of license they wish to obtain, what they have to learn to get it, how well they actually do on the "test", or whether they are electronics engineers or from CB, bootleggers or otherwise. I recognize that there are those who belittle nocodes, or those who are of a lesser priviledged license class than themselves and certainly cb'ers. Incentive licensing should have never happened IMHO as it seems to create a sort of caste system or mentalilty among at least some (as opposed to "many" HA!) hams. These people make too much noise so perhaps they are attributed with numbers in the "many" catagory. I would like to see "many" cb'ers become hams as I would like to see more activity on bands when they are not open as happens on cb although there is not much choice about that if cb is the only band you operate on. I know many cool openings are missed as usually no one is much on the bands that are not open. I don't care if they still use cb or not once licensed. It is all a hobby not a religion, or a way of life, so there should be a lot of latitude given to those who participate. My roots are in cb radio and I had a fairly short but good time there and still have 6 close friends that went to ham radio more or less when I did in 1970. I can lookup alls for about a dozen cb'ers from the late 60's that also became hams that I just haven't kept in touch with. Three of us used to have callsigns that were sequential which was fun for a while. There are certainly some aspects of cb operating that SHOULD be imported to ham radio. You will have better luck getting travel info on cb than a 2 meter repeater!! Cb has it all over ham radio for local mobile operating mostly due to numbers of mobile operators. You can't find out what the traffic jam is all about on a 2 meter repeater very often, or what freeway conditions are like before you decide to jump on the interstate. I could go on but will save you from more of my rambling! Soon the code will be dropped and it will be easy to get a license. It's easy to get a license now. ...Compared to when I got my (had them all) licenses it sure as hell is!! Try taking them in an FCC office when you know the engineer in charge has had complaints in the past about you bootlegging on CB! Ha! That had to chap his ass. Perhaps but I think he was glad! We were out of his hair really. my other two buddies had been called by him (his name was Deitz) and he suggested that they get ham licenses and why they should. He never called me! What was I?? Chopped Liver?? Scared one of them to death with that call! He got rid of his cb ( Midland 13-880), amp (Hygain(?) Afterburner) and took the antenna down. He sure learned the code fast!! I am not by any means anti-cw. I just do not think proficiency in it suggests you will be sort of a "squared away ham". The same goes for ham licensure, period. True story! Nor do I think CW will die away. Nor do I. I do not find it to be either a reliable or valid indicator of overall proficiency in ham radio. Well, an indicator of advancement in the hobby is most certainly code. I was thinking more in terms of just being sort of forced to learn it. Perhaps you think it would be best to have a typing test as an element for ham tests? Nah! GOOD! I can't type worth a dang! Because digital modes and apparatus isn't as fascinating to the dx-loving oldtimers compared to simply doing it yourself with nothing but the rig, the antenna, sky, and mother nature. Touche! Hell! If you can't type you are gonna have a hard time competing in contests (should you desire to)! You pretty much have to be able to type well to log maybe 1000 Q's in a weekend contest into a logging program. It is not that Morse prevents CB'ers from becoming hams! The glass is half empty from your perspective, half full from mine. There is no argument or contention among anyone that amateur radio declined when the nocode ticket was introduced. Not sure I understand that one correctly Myself and several friends are sufficient proof of that! The increased number of actions taken by the FCC against nocodes compared to the number of actions taken against other class of licenses is proof of the decline, not your personal experiences. Not sure if it proves a decline. Could it be that there is a larger influx of new no code hams and the actions taken against them is proportionate to what it was before? I was just saying that Morse itself does not prevent cb'ers or anyone else from becoming a ham, it is more their state of mind about spending the time and effort to get it down that gets in the way. It is clearly the mindset of the learner that prevents them learning it and getting a license! That is not the issue to me. My opinion is that there are more important things to know than Morse to get started in ham radio. Yet others regard it as the foundation. Considering SOS is universal, code can get through when no other communication will, even if one must bang on an object. Extremely helpful in dire emergencies. Yes they do, but not sure they should. "Many" only means a large number, numerous as defined by Mr. Webster. Pretty subjective definition don't you think?? It doesn't mean most or an overwhelming number, or even 51 percent, just "a lot". CUL in KW alley! _._ Fair enough. The matter is, there have been no reg contributors to this group who have spoken against or try and prevented a cb'er from obtaining a license. expressing a personal opinion of why an individual chooses not to get licensed is not the same as speaking against another who chooses to do so. Likely the case, I am not a regular here so will yield to your knowledge of that. Of course this is rec.radio cb so I would imagine most here have some positive interest in cb so I would think that there would not be a whole lot of posts that are negative about cb or do cb bashing. Your points are well taken, I like your style, you speak your mind! You challenged me to support my position or surrender it. I tried to meet you halfway and revise it anyway! You present things well, and I gotta think about it because of it. I could talk to you for hours on the radio about this stuff! I sure never spent this much time on QRZ.com getting involved in a discussion!! 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Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
Even if you were to state "all of the junk out there" it would not be a
mutually inclusive statement. It would not include all radios, just all radios that are "junk" how you define junk would be the problem! There are some really well built 40 channel rigs like Tram, SBE to name a few. SBE had a couple early 40 channel "cooker dial" radios not sure who else. That is a lot of little bitty channel numbers on a dial!!! I do not recall any 23 channel radios with LED displays but there may have been some. There were several early 23 channel radios with what used to be called 22a and 22b channels in them. You often had to carefully turn the dial between ch. 22 and 23 to catch the spot on the rotary switch to be there. For a time, there was a PA spot between ch 22 and 23. This was to disable the in between channels by giving the switch spot something else to do. 24 position rotary switches were commonly available so were used instead of a 23 position switch early on at least. I think the Lafayette 525 and Courier 23 were a couple of them. In the mid seventies every one wanted apiece of the CB craze action and jumped in. Quality took an overall big dive in the industry. I never had anyone complain about the Cobra radios The 19, 21 and 29 were very good radios if not the best in their price range. Around here in the Seattle area there is not much activity on CB. In the evening there are a bunch of ops on channel 8 (who mostly argue and threaten each other) and that is about it. There is some scattered activity on occassion but the regulars are all on ch. 8. Pretty sad compared to the amount of activity on the late sixties! There were large groups on several channels back then depending on the area you were in and operating interests. It was very rich in "CB culture" back then. The only Cb I still have is a Lafayette 625 mobile radio. It has a REAL receiver in it. Good filtering, good adjacent channel rejection. The 23 channel radios are just fun and memorable to me. I would like a Courier Royale or a Tram Titan 2 if I were to become active on CB again. Magnum my friend, I said some of the new junk out there, not all of it. Note the word "some". Feel free to chuckle to the others on 24. You felt the need to laugh at my expense because I like using my 23 channel radio, feel free, your not the first one. Please don't misquote or read into what I posted. I laughed because it was funny. You can laugh at me if you like, it's of little consequence. Why take it personally. Regards, Graham I didn't... That's good then. Is your 23ch CB one with a cooker dial? Im not sure if they all were or if there was a few LED readout before they changed to 40Ch? I used to have an old Alan K350B I think it was which was quite a large 40ch radio and that had a cooker dial so maybe there's a few out there of both types. Regards, Graham -- _._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _ Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
Type acceptance of older 23 ch radios vs. 40 channel question.
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