since when is using a cb against the law in the U.S.?Judge, in effect, rules it is.
 

Earlier this summer, I bought a legal CB radio antenna from Radio Shack
and followed the instructions on it when putting it on my car. Then
right after it was on, while I was driving, something happened that
never happened to me before while I didn't have it. A cop followed me
for miles, following every turn I made, even though I wasn't speeding
and wasn't breaking any laws. It was like he was following me for it
being against the law to have a CB antenna on your car. Through my
rearview mirror, I also saw him radio gfrom his car. I guess he was
running my plates just because I had a cb antenna on my car. After
miles, he finally turned a different way. I was on the regular roads
when all of it happened, not on the freeway.

However, now a ham radio operator who was using his ham radio while
driving was arrested for using his "cell phone" while driving. The ham
radio operator fought it in court and after the judge heard the real
descriptions about the radio, the judge ruled that it is similar enough
to a cell phone that it is against the law to use it while driving.

That's what the judge basically said and still counted it as a cell
phone.

I think most people use their cb's in their car. Now, since mobile ham
radios and mobile cb's operate the same way, a separate hand held
microphone that can be used with one hand,

the judge has in effect also ruled that it's against the law to use any
cb while mobile in your car, since a cb is similar enough to a cell
phone. (although the judge had actually said it about mobile ham
radios while driving).

So how come the police, judge, and federal government isn't going after
the manufacturers of the mobile cb's (since those are made to be used
in only cars and not homes, (you can't operate them on house current or
AA batteries) same for mobile ham radios) or after the FCC who approved
of these illegal radios as legal?


Here's the source of the story:

Source: This Week in Amateur Radio
Categories: Amateur Radio News

17:45

Ham Operator ticketed for using his ''cell phone''

Joey Hernandez, W2JLH, was issued a citation for operating his amateur
radio while mobile. He went to court where the judge presiding had to
consult a law book regarding the issue, and when the radio was
described to him, he pronounced a guilty verdict to Mr. Hernandez,
saying that the description of the use of the radio was too similar to
the use of a cell phone and therefore he was guilty as charged. More on
this issue can be found at the linked URL.
Source: This Week in Amateur Radio
Categories: Amateur Radio News

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:40:18 -0800, scammedbyohio wrote:

The ham
radio operator fought it in court and after the judge heard the real
descriptions about the radio, the judge ruled that it is similar enough
to a cell phone that it is against the law to use it while driving.

That's what the judge basically said and still counted it as a cell
phone.

So ask the judge why the Cop doesn't get nicked for a fine while using his
"cell phone" to run your plates while he's driving?

I've heard of some chick beating a littering ticket; chucked a cigarette
butt out the window while driving. She picked up the carbon paper the Cop
threw on the ground from his ticket pad and brought it to court. When she
showed it to the judge he dismissed the ticket.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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From: (Leland*C.*Scott)
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:40:18 -0800,
I've heard of some chick beating a littering

ticket; chucked a cigarette butt out the window
while driving. She picked up the carbon paper

the Cop threw on the ground from his ticket

pad and brought it to court. When she showed
it to the judge he dismissed the ticket.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO


You "heard" incorrect. A judge is REQUIRED to follow the law. A judge
may not indiscriminately dismiss such a case based on information that
another committed the same offense. It has no relation to said original
crime. The imaginary woman's action that broke the law was in no manner
affected, prevented, altered, provoked, endorsed, or caused by your
imaginary officer's actions. In other words, his actions-post wrting her
the ticket do not excuse her actions. Of course, one would expect one
with a remote understanding of the law to realize such, but then again,
those who understand the law do not often find themselves in a position
where they nee plead guilty to criminal charges. Go ahead and 'splain.

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"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Leland C. Scott)
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:40:18 -0800,
I've heard of some chick beating a littering

ticket; chucked a cigarette butt out the window
while driving. She picked up the carbon paper

the Cop threw on the ground from his ticket

pad and brought it to court. When she showed
it to the judge he dismissed the ticket.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO


You "heard" incorrect.

No.

A judge is REQUIRED to follow the law. A judge
may not indiscriminately dismiss such a case based on information that
another committed the same offense.

I personally spoke to the person this happened too and those are the facts.
She did just what I said and the judge dismissed the ticket, period.


--
Regards,
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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From: (Leland*C.*Scott)
From: (Leland C. Scott)
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, LCS wrote:
I've heard of some chick beating a littering

ticket; chucked a cigarette butt out the window
while driving. She picked up the carbon paper

the Cop threw on the ground from his ticket

pad and brought it to court. When she showed
it to the judge he dismissed the ticket.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO

You "heard" incorrect.

No.
*
So you heard correctly, but what you were told was an untruth.
*A judge is REQUIRED to follow the law. A judge may not
indiscriminately dismiss such a case based on information that another
committed the same offense.

I personally spoke to the person this

happened too

I don't doubt you were told as much, but it's bunk.

and those are the facts.

The only facts here are 1) you were told as much and 2) apparently
believe it.

She did just what I said and the judge

dismissed the ticket, period.

Hearsay is not fact.
--
Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO

Try and stay out of trouble, convict.

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"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Leland C. Scott)
From: (Leland C. Scott)
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, LCS wrote:
I've heard of some chick beating a littering

ticket; chucked a cigarette butt out the window
while driving. She picked up the carbon paper

the Cop threw on the ground from his ticket

pad and brought it to court. When she showed
it to the judge he dismissed the ticket.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO

You "heard" incorrect.

No.

So you heard correctly, but what you were told was an untruth.
A judge is REQUIRED to follow the law. A judge may not
indiscriminately dismiss such a case based on information that another
committed the same offense.

I personally spoke to the person this

happened too

I don't doubt you were told as much, but it's bunk.

and those are the facts.

The only facts here are 1) you were told as much and 2) apparently
believe it.

She did just what I said and the judge

dismissed the ticket, period.

Hearsay is not fact.
--
Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO

Try and stay out of trouble, convict.

Sorry Lee, Twist is right. The Judge can not throw out
a case like this because the officer littered. If the judge wants
to dismiss on for "in the interest of justice" fine, but I've been
to court dozens of times for tickets over the past 30 years, never
seen a case dismissed over the reasons like you're friend claims.


Landshark


--
The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature,
or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland

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"Landshark" wrote in message
et...

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Leland C. Scott)
From: (Leland C. Scott)
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, LCS wrote:
I've heard of some chick beating a littering

ticket; chucked a cigarette butt out the window
while driving. She picked up the carbon paper

the Cop threw on the ground from his ticket

pad and brought it to court. When she showed
it to the judge he dismissed the ticket.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO

You "heard" incorrect.

No.

So you heard correctly, but what you were told was an untruth.
A judge is REQUIRED to follow the law. A judge may not
indiscriminately dismiss such a case based on information that another
committed the same offense.

I personally spoke to the person this

happened too

I don't doubt you were told as much, but it's bunk.

and those are the facts.

The only facts here are 1) you were told as much and 2) apparently
believe it.

She did just what I said and the judge

dismissed the ticket, period.

Hearsay is not fact.
--
Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO

Try and stay out of trouble, convict.

Sorry Lee, Twist is right. The Judge can not throw out
a case like this because the officer littered. If the judge wants
to dismiss on for "in the interest of justice" fine, but I've been
to court dozens of times for tickets over the past 30 years, never
seen a case dismissed over the reasons like you're friend claims.


Landshark


I agree, been to court on a number of occasions. As a teen I racked up 23
parking tickets at one time. Went to court several times as I had no money
to pay them. The last time I got arrested for said tickets. I asked the
judge to just put me in jail. He asked how long I was in the holding cell, I
told him 36 hours, and he said time served. This goes to show the judge can
be lenient, but has to uphold the law at all times.

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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:12:41 +0000, Landshark wrote:



Sorry Lee, Twist is right. The Judge can not throw out
a case like this because the officer littered.

The judge did, and that's a fact regardless of what twist may think. Did
the judge make an error in dismissing the case, maybe. The person
never did tell me the exact reason why the case was dismissed but from
their recollection of the events in court it seems it was due to the
officer littering as well.

I've been to traffic court myself once or twice
for tickets and I've seen people have tickets dismissed even after
admitting they did it with a reasonable explanation. One thing you'll find
is no case is ever a slam-dunk, the judge has a lot more latitude in what
they can do than you may think. The last ticket I got was for sliding in
to the back of somebody's pickup truck on a snow covered icy road
one night. The officer that wrote me the ticket "advised" me to take it to
court, which I did, and the officer didn't show so it was automatically
dismissed. How nice of him not to show up. 8-))

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

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"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:12:41 +0000, Landshark wrote:



Sorry Lee, Twist is right. The Judge can not throw out
a case like this because the officer littered.

The judge did, and that's a fact regardless of what twist may think. Did
the judge make an error in dismissing the case, maybe. The person
never did tell me the exact reason why the case was dismissed but from
their recollection of the events in court it seems it was due to the
officer littering as well.

I've been to traffic court myself once or twice
for tickets and I've seen people have tickets dismissed even after
admitting they did it with a reasonable explanation. One thing you'll find
is no case is ever a slam-dunk, the judge has a lot more latitude in what
they can do than you may think. The last ticket I got was for sliding in
to the back of somebody's pickup truck on a snow covered icy road
one night. The officer that wrote me the ticket "advised" me to take it to
court, which I did, and the officer didn't show so it was automatically
dismissed. How nice of him not to show up. 8-))

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

Since then, have you learned to drive?

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"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Leland C. Scott)
From: (Leland C. Scott)
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, LCS wrote:
I've heard of some chick beating a littering

ticket; chucked a cigarette butt out the window
while driving. She picked up the carbon paper

the Cop threw on the ground from his ticket

pad and brought it to court. When she showed
it to the judge he dismissed the ticket.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO

You "heard" incorrect.

No.

So you heard correctly, but what you were told was an untruth.
A judge is REQUIRED to follow the law.

No, he is NOT.

"The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the

form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and

ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the

time of it's enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so

branding it... No one is bound to obey an uncontitutional law, and no

courts are bound to enforce it."

-- 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256


A judge may not
indiscriminately dismiss such a case based on information that another
committed the same offense.

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From: (Leland*C.*Scott)
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:12:41 +0000, Landshark wrote:
********Sorry Lee, Twist is right. The Judge can not
throw out a case like this because the officer littered.
_
The judge did, and that's a fact regardless of

what twist may think.


Instead of the "He said she said" game, cite it, show it, prove it or
not.

Did the judge make an

error in dismissing the case, maybe. The

person never did tell me the exact reason why
the case was dismissed but from their

recollection of the events in court it seems it

was due to the officer littering as well.


Once again, an act that has no relation to another's act can not be user
as an excuse or defense for the original person and their actions.


I've been to traffic court myself once or twice

for tickets and I've seen people have tickets

dismissed even after admitting they did it with

a reasonable explanation. One thing you'll find
is no case is ever a slam-dunk, the judge has

a lot more latitude in what they can do than

you may think.

I never questioned their latitude.

The last ticket I got was for sliding in to the

back of somebody's pickup truck on a snow

covered icy road one night.


You banged up several vehicles, did you not?

The officer that wrote me the ticket "advised"

me to take it to court, which I did, and the

officer didn't show so it was automatically

dismissed. How nice of him not to show up.

8-))


That's what happens when the state fails to prove their case.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

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`From: (James*F.*Mayer)
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
... From:
(Leland C. Scott) From: (Leland C.
Scott) On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, LCS wrote:
I've heard of some chick beating a littering
ticket; chucked a cigarette butt out the window while driving. She
picked up the carbon paper
the Cop threw on the ground from his ticket
pad and brought it to court. When she showed it to the judge he
dismissed the ticket.
Regards,
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO
_
You "heard" incorrect.

No.

So you heard correctly, but what you were told was an untruth. A judge
is REQUIRED to follow the law.

**No, he is NOT.

Yes, he is.

"The general rule is that an unconstitutional

statute, though having the

form and name of law, is in reality no law, but

is wholly void, and

ineffective for any purpose; since

unconstitutionality dates from the

time of it's enactment, and not merely from the
date of the decision so

branding it... No one is bound to obey an

uncontitutional law, and no

courts are bound to enforce it."


You're quite confused. Since when was the charge of littering ever found
to be unconstitutional?


16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256

(snip)

See above. You may be confusing yourself with jury nullification. In any
event, littering was never found to be unconstitutional.

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"James F. Mayer" wrote in message
nk.net...

No, he is NOT.

"The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the

form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and

ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the

time of it's enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so

branding it... No one is bound to obey an uncontitutional law, and no

courts are bound to enforce it."

-- 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256


That would be correct if this littering law was found unconstitutional.

Landshark


--
That's funny. You managed to actually make the thug alter his outside
real world actions because of his incompetence in this ng. The internet
magnifies peoples' idiocy, as he shows.

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"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:12:41 +0000, Landshark wrote:



Sorry Lee, Twist is right. The Judge can not throw out
a case like this because the officer littered.

The judge did, and that's a fact regardless of what twist may think. Did
the judge make an error in dismissing the case, maybe. The person
never did tell me the exact reason why the case was dismissed but from
their recollection of the events in court it seems it was due to the
officer littering as well.

Doubt it had anything to do with the officer littering. Most
likely he didn't prove his case or the information on the
ticket concerning the violation wasn't good enough to convict.


I've been to traffic court myself once or twice
for tickets and I've seen people have tickets dismissed even after
admitting they did it with a reasonable explanation. One thing you'll find
is no case is ever a slam-dunk, the judge has a lot more latitude in what
they can do than you may think.

Agreed, but I have been there faaarrrr more times then you, I've never heard
a case dismissed because the officer did a separate violation.
Using that logic, every cop speeding to catch a jay walker, speeder is
guilty. How about running a red light without a siren while responding
to a call? You can not dismiss a case because the officer did something
wrong while doing the performance of his duties. The only way that would
happen, is it had a direct bearing innocence or guilt on the case
to which he's involved.

The last ticket I got was for sliding in
to the back of somebody's pickup truck on a snow covered icy road
one night. The officer that wrote me the ticket "advised" me to take it to
court, which I did, and the officer didn't show so it was automatically
dismissed. How nice of him not to show up. 8-))

Lucky you. Don't always take the advise of the cop, he's not a
lawyer ;)


Regards,

Leland C. Scott

Landshark


--
Real heroes are men who fall and fail
and are flawed, but win out in the end
because they've stayed true to their
ideals and beliefs and commitments.

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"U-Know-Who" wrote in message
...

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:12:41 +0000, Landshark wrote:



Sorry Lee, Twist is right. The Judge can not throw out
a case like this because the officer littered.

The judge did, and that's a fact regardless of what twist may think. Did
the judge make an error in dismissing the case, maybe. The person
never did tell me the exact reason why the case was dismissed but from
their recollection of the events in court it seems it was due to the
officer littering as well.

I've been to traffic court myself once or twice
for tickets and I've seen people have tickets dismissed even after
admitting they did it with a reasonable explanation. One thing you'll
find
is no case is ever a slam-dunk, the judge has a lot more latitude in what
they can do than you may think. The last ticket I got was for sliding in
to the back of somebody's pickup truck on a snow covered icy road
one night. The officer that wrote me the ticket "advised" me to take it
to
court, which I did, and the officer didn't show so it was automatically
dismissed. How nice of him not to show up. 8-))

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

Since then, have you learned to drive?

Since I was 17 what about you?

--
Regards,
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...


Once again, an act that has no relation to another's act can not be user
as an excuse or defense for the original person and their actions.

Perhaps not but in the case I mentioned that appears to be what happened.



I never questioned their latitude.

Good idea, those that did lerned it wasn't a good thing to do.

You banged up several vehicles, did you not?

Just mine, hit the guys trailer hitch. Spent $800 getting the front left
fender replaced, then less than a year later some woman slamed in to the
back side of the van on the expressway and totaled it. Now I got another
ride I ordered through the local car dealer new.

That's what happens when the state fails to prove their case.

Just for your information just because the cop doesn't show in court doesn't
mean an automatic dismissal. The judge has the option to simply reschedule
the court hearing. Most of the time the case is dismissed but don't bet on
it.

Regards,
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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"Landshark" wrote in message
. net...

Doubt it had anything to do with the officer littering. Most
likely he didn't prove his case or the information on the
ticket concerning the violation wasn't good enough to convict.

I would tend to agree with that analysis. You have to admit flipping a butt
out the window isn't like chucking a bag full of burger wrappers, empty
drink cups and dirty napkins from the local fast food joint out the window.

--
Regards,
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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I would tend to agree with that analysis. You have to admit flipping a butt
out the window isn't like chucking a bag full of burger wrappers, empty
drink cups and dirty napkins from the local fast food joint out the window.

Cigarette butts don't disintegrate for a long time. Plus, if the
butt is still hot, it can start a forest fire. All trash should
find it's way to a proper receptical.

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"Scott in Baltimore" wrote in message
...
I would tend to agree with that analysis. You have to admit flipping a
butt out the window isn't like chucking a bag full of burger wrappers,
empty drink cups and dirty napkins from the local fast food joint out the
window.

Cigarette butts don't disintegrate for a long time. Plus, if the
butt is still hot, it can start a forest fire. All trash should
find it's way to a proper receptical.

Of course, I didn't want to imply anything different.

--
Regards,
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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"Leland C. Scott" wrote:
"U-Know-Who" wrote in message
Since then, have you learned to drive?

Since I was 17 what about you?

I learned when I was about twelve in a ford falcon with the three on the
tree. I sorta ground the gears a bit at first but I finally got the hang of
it after my dad slapped me upside the head a few times. arrgghhh!

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"Leland C. Scott" wrote:
"Landshark" wrote in message
. net...

Doubt it had anything to do with the officer littering. Most
likely he didn't prove his case or the information on the
ticket concerning the violation wasn't good enough to convict.

I would tend to agree with that analysis. You have to admit flipping a
butt out the window isn't like chucking a bag full of burger wrappers,
empty drink cups and dirty napkins from the local fast food joint out the
window.

Donut get caught throwing your roach to the pavement.

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Scott in Baltimore wrote:
I would tend to agree with that analysis. You have to admit flipping a
butt out the window isn't like chucking a bag full of burger wrappers,
empty drink cups and dirty napkins from the local fast food joint out
the window.

Cigarette butts don't disintegrate for a long time.

Field strip em' first!

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"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
news:27216-43AAAC04-
(snip)

See above. You may be confusing yourself with jury nullification. In any
event, littering was never found to be unconstitutional.

Wanna get out of jury duty, just mention jury nullification while going
through the selection process.

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Don't get caught throwing your roach to the pavement.

Who'd want to waste it?

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Scott in Baltimore wrote:
Don't get caught throwing your roach to the pavement.

Who'd want to waste it?

Got blisters on my fingers! ($1)

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"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
Don't get caught throwing your roach to the pavement.

Who'd want to waste it?

Got blisters on my fingers! ($1)

Sucking a lit roach down your throat. PRICELESS

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"DrDeath" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Scott in Baltimore wrote:
Don't get caught throwing your roach to the pavement.

Who'd want to waste it?

Got blisters on my fingers! ($1)

Sucking a lit roach down your throat. PRICELESS

auuudiooo -cough-

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"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
. ..

"Landshark" wrote in message
. net...

Doubt it had anything to do with the officer littering. Most
likely he didn't prove his case or the information on the
ticket concerning the violation wasn't good enough to convict.

I would tend to agree with that analysis. You have to admit flipping a
butt out the window isn't like chucking a bag full of burger wrappers,
empty drink cups and dirty napkins from the local fast food joint out the
window.

--
Regards,
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO


Ask Frank about it, he knows better than us................


Landshark


--
Courage is what it takes to stand up
and speak; courage is also what it
takes to sit down and listen.

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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 04:21:04 +0000, Steveo wrote:

"Leland C. Scott" wrote:
"U-Know-Who" wrote in message
Since then, have you learned to drive?

Since I was 17 what about you?

I learned when I was about twelve in a ford falcon with the three on the
tree. I sorta ground the gears a bit at first but I finally got the hang of
it after my dad slapped me upside the head a few times. arrgghhh!

I learned to drive with a 70 Challenger RT running a 383 with a 4 speed.
It wasn't your usual transportation special kids get for their first
car. Clutch friction plates and tires didn't last long on that thing. It
was hard not to squeal the tires a bit in first when letting out the
clutch without letting it slip a lot. I hated to drive in the winter, the
car was way too light in the back end, and way too nose heavy, thus
getting stuck in the snow was a problem.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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"Leland C. Scott" wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 04:21:04 +0000, Steveo wrote:

"Leland C. Scott" wrote:
"U-Know-Who" wrote in message
Since then, have you learned to drive?

Since I was 17 what about you?

I learned when I was about twelve in a ford falcon with the three on
the tree. I sorta ground the gears a bit at first but I finally got the
hang of it after my dad slapped me upside the head a few times.
arrgghhh!

I learned to drive with a 70 Challenger RT running a 383 with a 4 speed.
It wasn't your usual transportation special kids get for their first
car. Clutch friction plates and tires didn't last long on that thing. It
was hard not to squeal the tires a bit in first when letting out the
clutch without letting it slip a lot. I hated to drive in the winter, the
car was way too light in the back end, and way too nose heavy, thus
getting stuck in the snow was a problem.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Those are beautiful cars man, I'm surprised you drove it in the winter.
What color was it, and was it the pistol grip shifter?

Those uni-bodies are light and quick, I always liked the body lines on the
Challengers', was it your car? That's a hell of a machine to learn on.

since when is using a cb against the law in the U.S.?Judge,in...
 

From: (Leland*C.*Scott)
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
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Once again, an act that has no relation to another's act can not be used
as an excuse or defense for the original person and their actions.

Perhaps not but in the case I mentioned that

appears to be what happened.


Investigate further. You will find appearances are not what they always
seem.


(snip)

I never questioned their latitude.

those that did lerned it wasn't a

good thing to do.


Relevance to subject, please.

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You banged up several vehicles, did you not?

Just mine

Then you need improve your driving skill.

Just for your information just because the cop

doesn't show in court doesn't mean an

automatic dismissal.


Not certain what made you think otherwise.


The judge has the option to simply reschedule
the court hearing.


An option he may utilize by following the letter of law which he is
required. You mistakenly claimed the judge is not required to follow the
law.

Most of the time the case is dismissed but

don't bet on it.

Depends on the charge. If it's traffic or misdemeanor and one has proper
representation, I certainly would bet on it.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO

Hope you had a great holiday and Santa brought everything you wanted.

since when is using a cb against the law in the U.S.?Judge,in...
 

From: (Leland*C.*Scott)
"Landshark" wrote in message
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Doubt it had anything to do with the officer littering. Most likely he
didn't prove his case or the information on the ticket concerning the
violation wasn't good enough to convict.

I would tend to agree with that analysis. You

have to admit flipping a butt out the window

isn't like chucking a bag full of burger

wrappers, empty drink cups and dirty napkins

from the local fast food joint out the window.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott

KC8LDO


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Agreed. The cig butt presents much more of a problem than the paper
products which break down over time.

since when is using a cb against the law in the U.S.?Judge,in...
 

From: (DrDeath)
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
news:27216-43AAAC04-
(snip)
See above. You may be confusing yourself with jury nullification. In any
event, littering was never found to be unconstitutional.

Wanna get out of jury duty, just mention jury

nullification while going through the selection

process.

No doubt. Patriots are considered zealots by the
prosti..uhh..prosecuters.