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Jim Bradley January 9th 06 11:12 PM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
Ok here is the deal. At my brother house we have installed a base set
up. We have a mobile radio hooked up to an antron 99. The antron is in
the attic on the 3rd floor of the house mounted in a 22ft tall section
of the attic. The SWR is below 1.5 on all channels. everything is
stock. only one TV in the house is getting audio only interference
nothing else is getting any interference. This is clear as day when
ever you TX.

This happens with the TV muted or unmuted for that matter and even with
the coax unplugged from the back of the TV.

I just bought a B&W TVI filter off ebay in hopes that it might help. Do
you think it will? What else can we do? Please help...

thanks
Jim


Vinnie S. January 10th 06 12:04 AM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
On 9 Jan 2006 15:12:53 -0800, "Jim Bradley" wrote:

Ok here is the deal. At my brother house we have installed a base set
up. We have a mobile radio hooked up to an antron 99. The antron is in
the attic on the 3rd floor of the house mounted in a 22ft tall section
of the attic. The SWR is below 1.5 on all channels. everything is
stock. only one TV in the house is getting audio only interference
nothing else is getting any interference. This is clear as day when
ever you TX.



Jim,

Make sure you are using Belden 9913, or LMR400 coax, or some other 100% shieled
coax,

This happens with the TV muted or unmuted for that matter and even with
the coax unplugged from the back of the TV.


Well, I hate to say this, but the modern day TV receivers are junk, and pick up
anything. The TV might be the problem.


I just bought a B&W TVI filter off ebay in hopes that it might help. Do
you think it will? What else can we do? Please help...


50-50

Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. January 10th 06 12:08 AM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:04:24 -0500, Vinnie S. wrote:

On 9 Jan 2006 15:12:53 -0800, "Jim Bradley" wrote:

Ok here is the deal. At my brother house we have installed a base set
up. We have a mobile radio hooked up to an antron 99. The antron is in
the attic on the 3rd floor of the house mounted in a 22ft tall section
of the attic. The SWR is below 1.5 on all channels. everything is
stock. only one TV in the house is getting audio only interference
nothing else is getting any interference. This is clear as day when
ever you TX.



Jim,



I forgot to mention the A-99 is notorius for TVI. You might be better off doing
the 1/2 vertical dipole, and doing the RF choke balun Scott mentioned.

Vinnie S.

Jim Bradley January 10th 06 01:57 AM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
do you think getting the antenna outside and further away from the TV
would help. the base of the antron is really only like 10 feet from the
TV if you were to trave straight up. the mobile in my car does not
effect it.


Jim Bradley January 10th 06 02:01 AM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
do you think getting the antenna outside and further away from the TV
would help. the base of the antron is really only like 10 feet from the
TV if you were to trave straight up. the mobile in my car does not
effect it.


jim January 10th 06 02:06 AM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
Jim Bradley wrote:

do you think getting the antenna outside and further away from the TV
would help. the base of the antron is really only like 10 feet from the
TV if you were to trave straight up. the mobile in my car does not
effect it.

swap the tv that has tvi with one that doesn't and see if the problem
persists. that will guide you in the right direction.

Vinnie S. January 10th 06 02:22 AM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
On 9 Jan 2006 18:01:11 -0800, "Jim Bradley" wrote:

do you think getting the antenna outside and further away from the TV
would help. the base of the antron is really only like 10 feet from the
TV if you were to trave straight up. the mobile in my car does not
effect it.



I have heard that the A-99 is bad for TVI. I think it's too close. Try what Jim
said. Then is that don't work, try using a horizontal dipole at the very top of
the attic.. Get is as far away as possibly.

Vinnie S.

Jim Hampton January 10th 06 03:32 AM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 

"Jim Bradley" wrote in message
oups.com...
Ok here is the deal. At my brother house we have installed a base set
up. We have a mobile radio hooked up to an antron 99. The antron is in
the attic on the 3rd floor of the house mounted in a 22ft tall section
of the attic. The SWR is below 1.5 on all channels. everything is
stock. only one TV in the house is getting audio only interference
nothing else is getting any interference. This is clear as day when
ever you TX.

This happens with the TV muted or unmuted for that matter and even with
the coax unplugged from the back of the TV.

I just bought a B&W TVI filter off ebay in hopes that it might help. Do
you think it will? What else can we do? Please help...

thanks
Jim


Hello, Jim

There is enough rf getting into that unshielded television for the audio
section to detect and amplify it. Since removing the coax from the tv does
not change the problem, no filter on the transmitter is going to help. Your
SWR won't affect it.

If you have external speakers, I suspect that rf is being picked up by the
speaker leads and conducted back to the television where the audio section
is getting enough rf to detect and amplify it.

You might try a choke on the speaker leads near the television and see if
that helps. Before you try that, try disconnecting the external speakers
(if, indeed, you have them) and see if you get any interference running only
on the internal speaker (I'll bet you don't). If you don't, you'll know
that the interference is being picked up by the speaker leads. Should that
be the problem, see if you can substantially shorten the speaker leads as
they will become much less efficient at picking up rf.

Good luck; with the cheap stuff being made, you may need it.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim




Scott in Baltimore January 10th 06 06:22 AM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
You may have one of those sets that was built with absolutely
no filtering in it. I bet it's leaking IF around 45 MHz.

I AmnotGeorgeBush January 10th 06 03:27 PM

cable TV interference - Audio only - no picture change
 
From: (Vinnie*S.)
Well, I hate to say this, but the modern day TV
receivers are junk, and pick up anything.


Vinnie S.


I'll take your word for it. I thought most were just poorly installed
and could be better (shielding, grounding, protectors, GFIs). I know
that it's very easy for an average station in very close proximity with
other homes to come across a neighbor's surround sound or pc speakers.



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