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That's *exactly* what he does. He even has a bunch of sock puppets
posing as his invisible friend. If you ring his doorbell, he looks
through a peep hole and stays very, very quiet.

Dave K8MN

WTF ever happened to making friends on the radio, Dave?

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It would behoove you to ask that question of Roger Wiseman. Dave has
friends. Roger does not.

Roger Lies wrote:
That's *exactly* what he does. He even has a bunch of sock puppets

It would behoove you to ask that question of Roger Wiseman. Dave has
friends. Roger does not.

does he?

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Roger Lies wrote:
That's *exactly* what he does. He even has a bunch of sock puppets

It would behoove you to ask that question of Roger Wiseman. Dave has
friends. Roger does not.

does he?

Yes, as a matter of fact, he does. Several, in fact. But you and Woger
wouldn't know what that is like.

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Roger Lies wrote:
That's *exactly* what he does. He even has a bunch of sock puppets

It would behoove you to ask that question of Roger Wiseman. Dave has
friends. Roger does not.

does he?

.............................

Yes, as a matter of fact, he does. Several, in fact. But you and Woger
wouldn't know what that is like.

Roger Lies wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Roger Lies wrote:
That's *exactly* what he does. He even has a bunch of sock puppets

It would behoove you to ask that question of Roger Wiseman. Dave has
friends. Roger does not.

does he?

............................

Yes, as a matter of fact, he does. Several, in fact.
can even one be named?
But you and Woger
wouldn't know what that is like.
I knwo what it is like to have friends I have a number of them all
other the world a few in the general nighborhood as well

wrote:
wrote:
r I just may deal you a good thrashing.

LMFAO!

http://i1.tinypic.com/s4z1bd.jpg

Didja have a rent increase this year?

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I warn you. I'm like a wet cat when I get mad.

...lol

who don't?

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"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Dr.Death" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"an_old_friend" wrote:
if you knock on my door you need to hope I don't answer it

Are you as spineless as the other no-codes, ****stick?

He should call himself "an_old_jellyfish".

Honestly, they are all jealous of my S-Line.

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LOL!!! Yeah, that and a dime will get you a cup of coffee

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Kindness is the language which the deaf
can hear and the blind can see.

Post on this thread later and I'll put up a picture of the Drake L7
amplifier someone was selling at the hamfest today. It was clean!

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:51:43 -0600, "Dr.Death"
wrote in
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snip for brevity
Ok. Please Frank may I see your evidence?
That better?

Not really. You have already made your judgment regarding my
statement. Now you are only begging me to present my argument to
attack it.

If you remember
correctly, you prejudged me last year by stating I was an unemployed
alcoholic based on the times of my post. YOU have prejudged me.

Was that before or after I provided helpful advice to you on power
supply filter caps? IC datasheets? Field strength meters? Oh, wait,
here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/h8j6z

That is not full trhead Frank. No mention of cell or amp. But then why would
you Google up anything that would prove my statement?

........uh, is that a trick question?

Oh well, doesn't really matter -- your posts and their times are a
matter of record, as are your excuses.

And for the record, since you check my time card so well, I took the day off
to celebrate my anniversery.

That accounts for -one- day out of the year..... 364 days to go.

snip
How can you be so sure? Were you somehow privy to Bush's program of
illegally wiretapping American citizens? If not (and that includes the
vast majority of Americans, even the paranoids) then you simply have
no idea what they know..... or how they know it.

I have a social security number. That's how I know for a fact that they keep
some record of me.

So how does that translate into "I know for a fact that the NSA does
NOT have records of any amp purchased by me"?

snip
You still can't grasp this 'prejudice' thing yet, can you? It's a
simple concept..... -really- simple. For example, your recent post
chastising someone you don't even know for being a "racist pig" is, by
definition, prejudicial. Here's a link that might help fill one of the
enormous gaps in your education:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice

Obviously you did not read the post or the header. If you did then you just
do not have a clue.

Obviously you did not read the link I provided. If you did then you
just do not have any critical thinking skills.

snip
Pretty soon it will be Master of Electrical Engineering..... work has
been slow since the statewide smoking ban so I decided to go back to
school.

Congrats on going back to school. (yes I can compliment also)
How does the smoking ban affect your job? I thought you worked in
electronics, though I may be incorrect on that.

I've been slopping drinks at the local pub since the station was
assimilated by ClearChannel of Borg.

BTW, the Gillinad thing is old and stale. How about using some of that
imagination and call me names that are at least creative and original?

Seems to fit you.

So does my vintage, silver satin Seahawks jacket (which is still for
sale, BTW).

"He stated, and I quote 'If you cannot get a cell signal you are
unable to talk on 11m with 100 watts.'"

So I replied by asking you to cite your 'quote' but you hid behind
your killfile excuse. I then changed my username to bypass your
killfile and still no response; even when, according to you in the
same thread, "...I have Frank on my killfile list and I still have to
read his bull****."

Because it was quoted in other posts. Try again fool.

Yes, the stupid argument that was cross posted about military service
dumbass.

You'll have to cite that one, too.

Markie cross posted a fresh one just today. You and Steve going at it about
military service.

......ok, so what's your excuse? That you couldn't reply to my question
because you -could- read my posts?

http://tinyurl.com/ckvhb

You need to Google back to the original thread from last year.
YOU try again asswipe.

I have written a lot of posts over the years, and since this appears
to be an issue you can't dismiss through therapy, why don't you be a
little more specific about which discussion it is that's retarding
your emotional development?

There we go again. Making assumptions based on nothing. Isn't this the kind
of **** you accuse me of?

I'll simplify it for you: Where's the post?

snip
Google it up. You posted it last year in the same thread that you accused
me
of being a drunk.

Earlier in this post I provided the link to the referenced thread.
Nowhere in there do I see anything radio related, let alone the quote
you cited. And if you had checked the link I provided in the previous
post (the thread where you create ridiculous situations to justify
using an amp on the CB) you would see nothing from me about your
posting habits -or- your alcoholism. Is there yet -another- thread
that is disrupting your mental stability?

It was the same thread. I believe it started with you stating there is no
reason to ever break the law, which we all know is nonsense.

I have never said that there is no reason to -ever- break the law. I
-did- say that you have provided no valid reason to break the law we
were discussing. And you still haven't. If you want to be a lawbreaker
that's up to you. If you want to brag about it, fine. But making lame
excuses is what little kids do when they get caught with their hands
in the cookie jar. If you had any balls you would just say, "Hey, I'm
doin' it just because I want to." But apparently honesty is not one of
your virtues.

I only quoted you.

No, you didn't. You paraphrased something I said, completely out of
the context in which it was written, and tried to pass it to the group
as verbatim.

Then Google up the original thread and prove me wrong. You won't because
you
know you were talking out your ass.

I already did. If you are referring to a different thread then maybe
it's time for you to start doing your -own- homework.

You stated it. You go hunting.

Have you even -tried- to go to the link I posted? In case your web
browser isn't working, it is the result page for a google search on
the quote. The result is that the first time the line was ever posted
on Usenet was by you when you misquoted me. Now are you going to act
stupid and continue to beg me to prove you wrong when I already did?
Or are you really that stupid?

snip
If I search hard enough I'm sure I can find anything, but you are
deviating
from what you originaly posted.

Well, instead of quoting what I -didn't- say, how about quoting what I
-did- say? Is that too much of a challenge?

You said I was killfiled. You lied. Not a challange at all.

Yeah? So? Are you disappointed that I had the willpower to ignore most
of your posts without a killfile, while at the same time you were
getting all upset about being force-fed my posts even after you put me
in -your- killfile? Or do you feel that you were fraudulently denied
the last word in an argument? Either way, if you have been harboring
this grudge for a whole year, don't you think it's time to seek some
professional help? Good god, man..... get some perspective.

....or were you just making more excuses?

Don't need too, you make enough excuses for the both of us and then some.

What excuses? If I said it then I'll admit it. But so far you haven't
shown me where I said anything like what you are claiming. All you
have done so far is make accusations based on gross misquotations and
hatred, then telling me to google it to prove you wrong. Well, I did.

So I'll get back to my original question -- the same question that has
been on the burner for several months now without an answer: In what
post did I state, "If you cannot get a cell signal you are unable to
talk on 11m with 100 watts"?

Look it up. Your memory is slipping from all the lies you post.

Same old excuse.

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:59:57 -0600, "Dr.Death"
wrote in
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snip

It is remotely
possible that an undercover sold me an amp, but why go to all that trouble
and not bust me?

The NSA is concerned with national security. I suppose they could lean
on the FCC and force them to enforce their regs regarding amps. But
that would cost huge amounts of money, flood the DOJ with enforcement
petitions, and very possibily **** off enough people to get the law
overturned (in court or otherwise). It's much more practical to simply
keep track of the amps and their owners, just like the BATF (and
probably the NSA) does with firearms. After all, that's what the NSA
does best -- gathering and compiling information.
indeed why should the NSA or FCC realy want to bust people if they
caand evlope the data right they come knock ona door and say I know
(froma record of sometype) you know about so and so you must now help
us stop them or we will send you to jail for (the next 9/11)

amp data is a good bargaiing chip since they are ilegal to use when
THEY need it

the FCC hardly cares what cbers do or even Hams by and large

Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:08:45 -0600, "Dr.Death"
wrote in
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snip

Firearms don't broadcast signals in the EM spectrum that can be picked
up by automated ground receiving stations and/or satellites.
not yet at anyrate
And
here's something you may or may not have known: every RF emitter has
an RF "fingerprint" that can be used to identify it as a specific
type, make, model, and sometimes even an individual unit. All this
info can be automatically processed, categorized, and filed into an
electronic database. No paperwork required. That's what -can- be done.
The only question is if the NSA (or other secret government agency)
-is- doing it. History teaches us that when the general public
realizes what can be done, the government is usually two steps ahead
in its development.

and some part of Private enterpise (legal or not) is normaly 5-10 step
ahead of them leading them to think of it

snip
You implied that I used freeband for emergancies which I never stated.

You stated that you use an amp when you get stuck. You also stated
that such use is a "responsible" violation of the law.

OTOH as I understand the rules it is not in fact a violation of law. i
point of fact Can my station in any manner nessary in an emergency so I
can use my HF rig able to delver 100 watts at cb freqs as well as 10 M
ham if it is an mergncy but maybe only hams have that preveldge

You snipped my message so I cannot comment. Please include ALL of my post if
you wish me to respond.

Very well:

confrontational attitude gives him reason to justify his opinions (in
his own warped mind, of course).

My response was to let him know that not all people that are fair skinned
agree with his way of thinking.

Of that I'm sure he already knows.
or is so far gone mental that he will never know

It was easier on IRC
as I would just boot his ass out of the room or use any number of nasty DOS
attacks to take the spirit out of him.

"DOS attacks"?
Deniel of Service

a from of jaming ilgeal but like policing cb amps all but impooisble to
realy do much about

You reply to a -lot- of really stupid ****. What's your point?

It's winter and work is slow. As the weather increases you will see my posts
dwindle to almost nothing untill fall.

I can hardly wait.
I can wait but I lerned pataince at the Hand of Robeson

Now if you can't understand -that- then you will have just validated
everything I just said.

I understand now. But when you stated it last year I took it in the literal
sense that I was in your killfile list.

The effect is the same. The rest doesn't matter and I really didn't
care if you understood or not. If that makes me a liar then so be it.

That does not mean I have
to agree with you 100% of the time.

I would file a restraining order against anyone who did.
LO that is a good one I will hve to steal something

But what can I expect from a self
proclaimed lier.

What you 'expect' from someone is a consequence of your own
assumptions. But I'll tell you what you can expect from me: more
honesty than from someone who claims to have never lied.

I have never claimed I have never lied. You made that assumption on your
own.

YOU made the assumption that I was referring to you. I wasn't.

well done

more fun than baiting Robeson

And before you accuse me of being a
coward and not serving my country, let's just address that now. I wanted to
join the Marines but was denied due to my lack of formal education. I only
finished the 7th grade, vietnam just ended and the Marines were being picky.
I did serve my country by guarding the worst of the worst, killers rapists,
ect...

I really don't care if you served or not. Those are issues that -you-
have to live with, not me. Robeson was impersonating a Marine, and
that's a different ball of wax.

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Heck, I'll even go so far as to admit when I'm wrong!!! Done it
several times. How dastardly is THAT?

With or without mapquest? g

On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 19:37:51 -0500, "Dr.Death"
wrote in
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snip
And
here's something you may or may not have known: every RF emitter has
an RF "fingerprint" that can be used to identify it as a specific
type, make, model, and sometimes even an individual unit. All this
info can be automatically processed, categorized, and filed into an
electronic database. No paperwork required. That's what -can- be done.
The only question is if the NSA (or other secret government agency)
-is- doing it. History teaches us that when the general public
realizes what can be done, the government is usually two steps ahead
in its development.

I think the amount of amps in circulation would create to much work from an
understaffed agency that has more important fish to fry. But all that is
conjecture on my part. I do realize that it is possible, but unlikely.

In the past half-century there have been many revelations about the
activities of secret government agencies and organizations. Much of
what they have done under the cloak of secrecy was what most people
considered to be "unlikely". Don't you remember those assassination
hearings? Scary ****.

snip
The Fourth Amendment is but one of the casualties of the Wars on Drugs
and Terrorism.

9/11 changed a lot of things. Unfortunately until they put the military on
the boarder the war on drugs and terrorism will never be won.

The war on drugs will never be won as long as we live in a society
where drugs, legal or not, are part of mainstream culture. The war on
terrorism will never be won because it is a war against an abstract
concept. And 9/11 indeed changed many things, not the least of which
is how politicians make excuses for criminally negligent stewardship
of the Constitution.

snip
You implied that I used freeband for emergancies which I never stated.

You stated that you use an amp when you get stuck. You also stated
that such use is a "responsible" violation of the law.

Then let me make a clairification. I will do whatever I have to do to get
help, or save my or even your life. If that means breaking the law, I have
no problem with it.

Unexpected situations do arise. But when you go 'mudding' then you
have a reasonable expectation of finding yourself in an emergency
situation. If you do not take reasonable measures to prepare for such
a situation -before- you go mudding then you have no justification for
violating the law. And that, too, is the law.

Rosa Parks broke the law, was that responsible? I think
it depends on who you ask and how you ask it.

Right. And Ghandi was a freebander. Sure.

And
this is a direct quote "And if you are in a canyon or deep valley, it
doesn't matter how much
power you run, there's nothing you can do on radio unless you have VLF or
satellite."
This is not true (at the time) as I have used 100 watts on channel 10 and
got help when my cell phone failed to operate in the same area.

You got lucky, that's all. CB radio propagation is generally LOS, just
like cell phones. If you are planning to go to an area where you will
be taking some risks, hoping for residual ground-waves from big watts
on the CB is neither a reliable or responsible means of communication,
ESPECIALLY when there are much better alternatives. For example, I'm
going into the Bitterroots this summer. I'll have my CB for sure, but
there's no way in hell I'd go deep without a sat-phone. Sure, it may
cost a few bucks to rent. But if I roll the truck down a slope, get
jousted by a horny moose, or my appendix decides it wants a divorce,
I'm sure I'll feel that it was money well spent. And I happen to know
for a fact that CB antennas don't often survive a rollover.

So make all the excuses you want; I'll plan -my- trips intelligently
and responsibly.

You cannot forsee every incident in advance. I do what I can to plan for
those I can forsee. I took my cell phone. It did not work. I used my CB. No
response. I kicked on the amp. Help was on the way.

You claimed that you were not talking about an emergency situation.
IIRC, you said that you only had to walk a few miles for help. So your
violation of the law was for the sake of personal convenience, not
because it was an emergency. You think that's being "responsible"? Or
do you wanto to try the Rosa Parks excuse again and claim that she was
just too lazy to walk to the back of the bus?

snip
It sounded to me like you were defending him. I am a Juggalo and will not
tolerate the message that he posted.

I'll defend his right to free speech, but that doesn't mean I agree
with anything he says. On the contrary, the post was so blatantly
inflammatory I seriously doubt the person was even a racist; more
likely it was just some moron that doesn't know how to use his spare
time constructively. But regardless of the source or the reason, the
post pushed your buttons as it was clearly intended to do. IOW, maybe
you should pay more attention to the thickness of a person's skin
instead of its color.

As a Juggalo it is my duty to do what I can to help stop the spread of
racism. We all have to live on the same planet and it does nobody any good
to judge a person by his race.

In case you hadn't noticed, your campaign against racists is no
different than the AKC denouncing illegal CBers. You can take all your
responses on the latter subject and apply it to the defense of
racists. And here's something else to chew on: it's not illegal to be
a racist.

Racism isn't a disease. It's an abstract concept, just like terrorism.
The fact is that racism will exist as long as there are differences
that can be distinguished. If you don't like it, great! But since you
can't eliminate the problem, you should learn the best way to deal
with it.

snip
My response was to let him know that not all people that are fair skinned
agree with his way of thinking.

Of that I'm sure he already knows.

He didn't until I replied.

Is that how you rationalize your own prejudice? What you are
suggesting is that this person has never attended school, never
watched television, never socialized with people beyond his close
circle of racist friends and family, etc. That's either totally naive
or totally ignorant -- take your pick.

If he wants to repond to my response so much
the better as I will argue my point on this issue till the cows come home.

Just as long as you don't argue until the Cubs win the World Series.

LOL

Haven't you learned yet that the best way to silence a troll is to
ignore him?

And sometimes they go away after they have been burned.

Get real. They don't go away until either they get tired of playing
the game or are forced to find a job.

Doug was forced to find a job and he is still here. But you are correct,
they won't leave till they are ready.

It was easier on IRC
as I would just boot his ass out of the room or use any number of nasty
DOS
attacks to take the spirit out of him.

"DOS attacks"?

Denial of service attacks. They were all the rage on IRC. Splitting servers
to take channels, flooding people with eggdrops, ect....
Yeah, I know, bad DrDeath.

You -still- don't get it, do you? Let the moron speak! Let him get
comfortable. Let him publically voice his warped ideas and values and
give him the opportunity to trip over his own ignorance. What better
way to attack racism than to let them admonish themselves? At the very
least, you can draw him far enough into the social arena to encourage
him to think about some -constructive- things to do with his time,
which is something you can't do by lowering yourself to his level and
calling him names. There are many other reasons, but instead of making
this post ridiculously long I'll just submit my proof: Usenet.

snip
Dr. Douche, Dr.Dumbass, Dr.Dork....ect....I can think of lots of insults
for
my screen nic.

As can I. Ever wonder why I never used any of them until I addressed
that specific topic?

Not really. I just used the nad thing as it seemed in vogue. I actualy
prefer not to do a bunch of name calling with people that can actualy hold a
conversation as it makes me look desparate for material. I do however enjoy
name calling with idiots like Doug and Markie-tard as they are unequiped to
converse with me.

The enigma remains: why bother to "converse" with them at all?

snip
You reply to a -lot- of really stupid ****. What's your point?

It's winter and work is slow. As the weather increases you will see my
posts
dwindle to almost nothing untill fall.

I can hardly wait.

Be honest, while you may not like me, you enjoy playing this game as much as
I do.

Enjoy? Not really. Wordsmithing is only one of several things I do to
keep my mind from getting dull. I used to enjoy trolling for voodoo
techs and political propagandists, but it seems they all left. I'm
sure things will pick up later in the year when the '06 election
campaigns kick into overdrive.

snip
I understand now. But when you stated it last year I took it in the
literal
sense that I was in your killfile list.

The effect is the same. The rest doesn't matter and I really didn't
care if you understood or not. If that makes me a liar then so be it.

You did care, you stated if I did not understand it gave you validation.
Sounds like you care to me. And yes it makes you a liar, so be it.

But I only lie "responsibly" (jeez, you walked into that one like a
blind man in a cave!!!)

snip
.....I'm
not going to Google every post I have made as I don't have THAT much free
time.

Google says different.

I am not holding a grudge,
but I cannot change someones belief system. So let me make this statement,
I
do not hate you, hold a grudge or wish you harm.

Well then you better review your posting history cause if what you say
is true then someone is forging posts under your nic.

Point me to where I have ever stated that I wished you harm or hate you.

Pick any post in the past few months where you refer to me with
contempt. There have been quite a few.

And
yes, I have been forged, but those that know me can tell the differance.

Well, guess what? I don't know you. And while I am one of the most
obnoxious people in this group, I have rarely been forged. Can you
guess why?

snip
Why
would I want to read a bunch of military arguement that I can't respond to
as I have never been in the military.

What does that have to do with it?

Must be too complicated for you to understand then.

Not complicated at all. You don't need to own an orchard to talk about
apples.

And before you accuse me of being a
coward and not serving my country, let's just address that now. I wanted
to
join the Marines but was denied due to my lack of formal education. I only
finished the 7th grade, vietnam just ended and the Marines were being
picky.
I did serve my country by guarding the worst of the worst, killers
rapists,
ect...

I really don't care if you served or not. Those are issues that -you-
have to live with, not me. Robeson was impersonating a Marine, and
that's a different ball of wax.

I wouldn't know, as I stated earlier that I marked the thread as read.

My point was that if you think I would condemn you for being a coward
because you never served in the military then you need to re-read the
parts of this thread that addressed ASSUMPTIONS.

On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:48:38 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote in
:

snip
...... What better
way to attack racism than to let them admonish themselves?

'admonish' is the wrong word; please substitute with 'discredit'.