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Old January 23rd 07, 04:04 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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Default Local AM staiton FMing and Harmonics in 80 meters.

Is there a place I can report this in the FCC? Local Station 1380 am
(5kw) has Harmonics at 3400 and 4000 and they are 40 over S9. Lots of
little birdies in between make 80 pretty useless. Its only in the last
month or two.

The antenna is about 10 miles from me.

They are planning and have approval for 50KW now and Im worried that
160 and 80 and possibly 40 could me usless.


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Scotty W7PSK.
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Default Local AM staiton FMing and Harmonics in 80 meters.

In article "R. Scott" writes:
Is there a place I can report this in the FCC? Local Station 1380 am
(5kw) has Harmonics at 3400 and 4000 and they are 40 over S9. Lots of
little birdies in between make 80 pretty useless. Its only in the last
month or two.


Well, the harmonics of 1380 are 1380, 2760, 4140, 5520, 6900, ...
None of those match your problem frequencies.

As a result, one suspects there is some mixing going on there, either at
their end or at yours.

The antenna is about 10 miles from me.

They are planning and have approval for 50KW now and Im worried that
160 and 80 and possibly 40 could me usless.


KRKO is listed on the FCC pages as on 1380, but about 2.4 miles from you,
and with an application for 50 kW day and 34 kW night, but that is listed
as being 8.5 miles from you, so they may be moving.

I would suggest you try listening for the signals somewhere else in the
area, to determine if they are from something local to you (such as a
mixing result of a rusty rain gutter downspout, or the front end of your
rig), or if they are actually transmitting those signals.

If it really is found in places far from your location, then nicely
contacting the stations engineer for help is likely to get good results.

It is great to have these guys for friends -- they have some neat toys.


Alan

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Default Local AM staiton FMing and Harmonics in 80 meters.

I agree ... 1st make darned sure that the signals you are hearing are
actually coming out of their rig ... not from your front end or some other
mixing source.

If you determine that to a high degree of confidence, then a calm, friendly
approach to the station's engineering staff is the most advisable approach.
(you get more flies with honey than vinegar :-)

73,
Carl - wk3c

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In article "R. Scott"
writes:
Is there a place I can report this in the FCC? Local Station 1380 am
(5kw) has Harmonics at 3400 and 4000 and they are 40 over S9. Lots of
little birdies in between make 80 pretty useless. Its only in the last
month or two.


Well, the harmonics of 1380 are 1380, 2760, 4140, 5520, 6900, ...
None of those match your problem frequencies.

As a result, one suspects there is some mixing going on there, either at
their end or at yours.

The antenna is about 10 miles from me.

They are planning and have approval for 50KW now and Im worried that
160 and 80 and possibly 40 could me usless.


KRKO is listed on the FCC pages as on 1380, but about 2.4 miles from you,
and with an application for 50 kW day and 34 kW night, but that is listed
as being 8.5 miles from you, so they may be moving.

I would suggest you try listening for the signals somewhere else in the
area, to determine if they are from something local to you (such as a
mixing result of a rusty rain gutter downspout, or the front end of your
rig), or if they are actually transmitting those signals.

If it really is found in places far from your location, then nicely
contacting the stations engineer for help is likely to get good results.

It is great to have these guys for friends -- they have some neat toys.


Alan

wa6azp



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Default Local AM staiton FMing and Harmonics in 80 meters.

Alan wrote:
In article "R. Scott"
writes:
Is there a place I can report this in the FCC? Local Station 1380 am
(5kw) has Harmonics at 3400 and 4000 and they are 40 over S9. Lots
of little birdies in between make 80 pretty useless. Its only in
the last month or two.


Well, the harmonics of 1380 are 1380, 2760, 4140, 5520, 6900, ...
None of those match your problem frequencies.

As a result, one suspects there is some mixing going on there,
either at
their end or at yours.

The antenna is about 10 miles from me.

They are planning and have approval for 50KW now and Im worried that
160 and 80 and possibly 40 could me usless.


KRKO is listed on the FCC pages as on 1380, but about 2.4 miles from
you,
and with an application for 50 kW day and 34 kW night, but that is
listed
as being 8.5 miles from you, so they may be moving.

I would suggest you try listening for the signals somewhere else in
the
area, to determine if they are from something local to you (such as a
mixing result of a rusty rain gutter downspout, or the front end of
your
rig), or if they are actually transmitting those signals.

If it really is found in places far from your location, then nicely
contacting the stations engineer for help is likely to get good
results.

It is great to have these guys for friends -- they have some neat
toys.


Alan

wa6azp


I wish we had it that good. Our State RACES nets are on 3990. We have a
local AM Broadcast station on 1330. Our net is right on the 3rd harmonic.
Once daylight hits and they go to high power, that's the end of our
participation with the net on 75m. They tried to notch the output in the
late 70's, but it did no good. Now I just hop in the mobile and head a few
miles out of town to operate the net. You do what you have to.
--
Smitty
Somerset, PA


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