AMPR Net
 

Hi,
I want to get involved with Ampr Net can any one let me know how to get
started what's needed and all that fun stuff.

Thanks,

TC

Grab this file:

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/amprnets

Look up your coordinator, and start there. If your coordinator has lost interest,
then you can elect yourself as the new coordinator :-)


"TC" wrote
Hi,
I want to get involved with Ampr Net can any one let me know how to get
started what's needed and all that fun stuff.

Thanks,

TC

Grab this file:

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/amprnets

Look up your coordinator, and start there. If your coordinator has lost interest,
then you can elect yourself as the new coordinator :-)


"TC" wrote
Hi,
I want to get involved with Ampr Net can any one let me know how to get
started what's needed and all that fun stuff.

Thanks,

TC

That leads to another question how do you elect yourself as a new
coordinator and what does a coordinator do and all that jazz?
But I'm not at that point. I'm starting from scratch I was big into
packet 10 years ago or so and got out of it when I went to university. Now
that I'm done I'd like to play with Ampr Net. What should I be doing before
I get an IP address and any thoughts on software to be running when I put my
TNC into KISS (or am I missing something?) I haven't found much on the
Internet unfortently hence the posting :)

FYI: the reply address I have here is so I don't have to deal with spam so
please post to the group.

Thank you,

TC

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:vpDrb.17$6p6.4@okepread03...
Grab this file:

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/amprnets

Look up your coordinator, and start there. If your coordinator has lost
interest,
then you can elect yourself as the new coordinator :-)


"TC" wrote
Hi,
I want to get involved with Ampr Net can any one let me know how to
get
started what's needed and all that fun stuff.

Thanks,

TC

That leads to another question how do you elect yourself as a new
coordinator and what does a coordinator do and all that jazz?
But I'm not at that point. I'm starting from scratch I was big into
packet 10 years ago or so and got out of it when I went to university. Now
that I'm done I'd like to play with Ampr Net. What should I be doing before
I get an IP address and any thoughts on software to be running when I put my
TNC into KISS (or am I missing something?) I haven't found much on the
Internet unfortently hence the posting :)

FYI: the reply address I have here is so I don't have to deal with spam so
please post to the group.

Thank you,

TC

"Gene Storey" wrote in message
news:vpDrb.17$6p6.4@okepread03...
Grab this file:

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/amprnets

Look up your coordinator, and start there. If your coordinator has lost
interest,
then you can elect yourself as the new coordinator :-)


"TC" wrote
Hi,
I want to get involved with Ampr Net can any one let me know how to
get
started what's needed and all that fun stuff.

Thanks,

TC

AMPR Net was one of those really neat projects that had software for
hardware most Hams had. A few Hams here liked the K5JB version of
Net, because it worked on the 3B2 Unix box, as well as the DOS box.
Alas, both K5JB and KB0QJ are both dead now, and God only knows
who owns (or what dumpster they were thrown into) their old Unix boxes.

Personally I liked the JNOS version, and at the end, I was running JNOS
on Linux to do my AMPR Net. You need two IP addresses from your ISP
though. One IP for the connected IP, and one IP for the tunnel. AMPR Net
is nothing more than tunneling IP in IP. That is, it tunnels the class A address
44.x.x.x via the Internet.

In order to tunnel though, you need a partner, and thus was set up this system
of Gateways, which was a list of IP addresses that you tunneled to, and was
kept up to date as people came and went.

The sad thing is, most of this is now history, and you will probably play billy-hell
finding information on this.

What I really liked about AX.25 IP, was the throughput we got at 9600 baud.
I set up a couple of links that were full-duplex for about 25 miles. Over this
network, we basically had a better system than our 28.8 modems to the
Internet. The reason being we had less overhead with our 1500 byte packets,
than the crappy 576 byte PPP crap the ISP gave us.

Good luck, but I think most of the AMPR Net stuff is outdated, and obsolete,
so you need to find a working neighbor. The ucsd.edu has a robot that you send
DNS updates to, but the last I heard was they passworded it, and I have no
clue on that anymore. Actually I find 44 net is redundant to the 10 net.


"TC" wrote

That leads to another question how do you elect yourself as a new
coordinator and what does a coordinator do and all that jazz?
But I'm not at that point. I'm starting from scratch I was big into
packet 10 years ago or so and got out of it when I went to university. Now
that I'm done I'd like to play with Ampr Net. What should I be doing before
I get an IP address and any thoughts on software to be running when I put my
TNC into KISS (or am I missing something?) I haven't found much on the
Internet unfortently hence the posting :)

FYI: the reply address I have here is so I don't have to deal with spam so
please post to the group.

Thank you,

TC

"Gene Storey" wrote
Grab this file:

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/amprnets

Look up your coordinator, and start there. If your coordinator has lost
interest,
then you can elect yourself as the new coordinator :-)


"TC" wrote
Hi,
I want to get involved with Ampr Net can any one let me know how to
get
started what's needed and all that fun stuff.

Thanks,

TC

AMPR Net was one of those really neat projects that had software for
hardware most Hams had. A few Hams here liked the K5JB version of
Net, because it worked on the 3B2 Unix box, as well as the DOS box.
Alas, both K5JB and KB0QJ are both dead now, and God only knows
who owns (or what dumpster they were thrown into) their old Unix boxes.

Personally I liked the JNOS version, and at the end, I was running JNOS
on Linux to do my AMPR Net. You need two IP addresses from your ISP
though. One IP for the connected IP, and one IP for the tunnel. AMPR Net
is nothing more than tunneling IP in IP. That is, it tunnels the class A address
44.x.x.x via the Internet.

In order to tunnel though, you need a partner, and thus was set up this system
of Gateways, which was a list of IP addresses that you tunneled to, and was
kept up to date as people came and went.

The sad thing is, most of this is now history, and you will probably play billy-hell
finding information on this.

What I really liked about AX.25 IP, was the throughput we got at 9600 baud.
I set up a couple of links that were full-duplex for about 25 miles. Over this
network, we basically had a better system than our 28.8 modems to the
Internet. The reason being we had less overhead with our 1500 byte packets,
than the crappy 576 byte PPP crap the ISP gave us.

Good luck, but I think most of the AMPR Net stuff is outdated, and obsolete,
so you need to find a working neighbor. The ucsd.edu has a robot that you send
DNS updates to, but the last I heard was they passworded it, and I have no
clue on that anymore. Actually I find 44 net is redundant to the 10 net.


"TC" wrote

That leads to another question how do you elect yourself as a new
coordinator and what does a coordinator do and all that jazz?
But I'm not at that point. I'm starting from scratch I was big into
packet 10 years ago or so and got out of it when I went to university. Now
that I'm done I'd like to play with Ampr Net. What should I be doing before
I get an IP address and any thoughts on software to be running when I put my
TNC into KISS (or am I missing something?) I haven't found much on the
Internet unfortently hence the posting :)

FYI: the reply address I have here is so I don't have to deal with spam so
please post to the group.

Thank you,

TC

"Gene Storey" wrote
Grab this file:

ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/amprnets

Look up your coordinator, and start there. If your coordinator has lost
interest,
then you can elect yourself as the new coordinator :-)


"TC" wrote
Hi,
I want to get involved with Ampr Net can any one let me know how to
get
started what's needed and all that fun stuff.

Thanks,

TC

"TC" wrote in message
...
That leads to another question how do you elect yourself as a new
coordinator and what does a coordinator do and all that jazz?

Make up an IP number for yourself and hey presto! You're a coordinator!

The people who used to take care of this do not care any more, so just make
something up and go. Who will ever know the difference? You might get one,
maybe two other hams to play with this stuff, so it's not like you have to
worry about causing any trouble with your AMPR station or the addresses you
make up. Just stay off of the regular packet frequencies and you won't
bother anybody or interrupt anything important.

But I'm not at that point. I'm starting from scratch I was big into
packet 10 years ago or so and got out of it when I went to university. Now
that I'm done I'd like to play with Ampr Net. What should I be doing
before
I get an IP address and any thoughts on software to be running when I put
my
TNC into KISS (or am I missing something?) I haven't found much on the
Internet unfortently hence the posting :)

All the software you used 10 years ago is still around, and has not changed
in the intervening decade. If you still have your old setup from ten years
ago just fire it up. It is 100% up to date. There has been no progress in
AMPR software in the last decade, hence the lack of info on the Internet.
Thopugh AMPR is effectively dead, many hams enjoy nostalgia activities
involved in amateur radio. If you enjoy operating AMPR and have found
another ham who will participate with you, there is absolutely no reason not
to go ahead and do so.

Enjoy!

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

"TC" wrote in message
...
That leads to another question how do you elect yourself as a new
coordinator and what does a coordinator do and all that jazz?

Make up an IP number for yourself and hey presto! You're a coordinator!

The people who used to take care of this do not care any more, so just make
something up and go. Who will ever know the difference? You might get one,
maybe two other hams to play with this stuff, so it's not like you have to
worry about causing any trouble with your AMPR station or the addresses you
make up. Just stay off of the regular packet frequencies and you won't
bother anybody or interrupt anything important.

But I'm not at that point. I'm starting from scratch I was big into
packet 10 years ago or so and got out of it when I went to university. Now
that I'm done I'd like to play with Ampr Net. What should I be doing
before
I get an IP address and any thoughts on software to be running when I put
my
TNC into KISS (or am I missing something?) I haven't found much on the
Internet unfortently hence the posting :)

All the software you used 10 years ago is still around, and has not changed
in the intervening decade. If you still have your old setup from ten years
ago just fire it up. It is 100% up to date. There has been no progress in
AMPR software in the last decade, hence the lack of info on the Internet.
Thopugh AMPR is effectively dead, many hams enjoy nostalgia activities
involved in amateur radio. If you enjoy operating AMPR and have found
another ham who will participate with you, there is absolutely no reason not
to go ahead and do so.

Enjoy!

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

"charlesb" wrote in message
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"TC" wrote in message
...
That leads to another question how do you elect yourself as a new
coordinator and what does a coordinator do and all that jazz?

Make up an IP number for yourself and hey presto! You're a coordinator!

The people who used to take care of this do not care any more, so just make
something up and go. Who will ever know the difference? You might get one,
maybe two other hams to play with this stuff, so it's not like you have to
worry about causing any trouble with your AMPR station or the addresses you
make up. Just stay off of the regular packet frequencies and you won't
bother anybody or interrupt anything important.


We have tried for six years to get the "official hosts list" at UCSD fixed.
So far no result. So we just started over and assign our own addresses
out of net 44.116. The coordinator for that net block will occasionally
answer email requests, but has not yet managed to get any updates into
the system ...except the first one just over six years ago. We now have
something like 50 hosts online, spread over 11 subnets. The official
list is useless, and I've been unable to get any response at all from Brian.
Yes, we run our own DNS, since the official one is useless.

the official list contains addresses for dead people, people who moved out
of the area 15 years ago, people who changed callsign, and about 100
people who obtained addresses long ago and never got on packet :-)

So pick addresses from the correct net block and use 'em.

Maybe someday someone else will take over the administration
of net 44 and then the official DNS might become useful again.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net